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1. 12:15 AM - Re: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. (Dan)
2. 12:29 AM - Re: Re:Tailwind test, to see picture click on 'Reply' (Fred Weaver)
3. 12:29 AM - Re: Re:Tailwind test, to see picture click on 'Reply' (Fred Weaver)
4. 12:39 AM - Re: Test picture (Fred Weaver)
5. 01:50 AM - Re: Post it to the fricken forum (Jerry Hey)
6. 04:07 AM - Re: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. (Rick)
7. 07:33 AM - Re: Emailing: 94.5 kb airplane photo (Estelle Danner)
8. 08:14 AM - Re: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. (Fred Weaver)
9. 08:23 AM - Re: Fuel and Speed (Fred Weaver)
10. 09:32 AM - Re: Test picture (ROTORGUY06@aol.com)
11. 10:27 AM - Re: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. (Jack Steele)
12. 11:01 AM - Re: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. (Dan)
13. 11:05 AM - Re: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. (Fred Weaver)
14. 11:38 AM - Re: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. (Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com)
15. 11:39 AM - Re: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. (Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com)
16. 12:04 PM - Re: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. (Ruhnke, Mike)
17. 02:44 PM - Re: Emailing: 94.5 kb airplane photo (Dave Conrad)
18. 03:01 PM - Re: tail wheel (DaveM)
19. 04:20 PM - Air Tech primer (Paul Holmes)
20. 04:28 PM - Re: Mich. Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. (Earl Luce)
21. 05:48 PM - Re: Air Tech primer (Jim and Donna Clement)
22. 05:55 PM - Re: Air Tech primer (Earl Luce)
23. 06:05 PM - W9 Tailwind for sale (Jim and Donna Clement)
24. 06:13 PM - Re: W9 Tailwind for sale (Jim and Donna Clement)
25. 09:42 PM - control rod (Dan)
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Subject: | Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. |
Fred,
That's the beauty of the older low powered W8s on a long trip. If you
throttle back just a little more than usual you can get out and take a break
if you have a set of these.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Weaver
Subject: Tailwind-List: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg.
George, George, George......... Where are the tips that it needs to
perform. Geez, this one will fly like Danny's W8....
Weav
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Subject: | Re:Tailwind test, to see picture click on 'Reply' |
DITTO!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Luc H.
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re:Tailwind test, to see picture click on 'Reply'
George, what ever you are doing is not working on my end. I'm getting an image
place holder that links to an expired Yahoo page. YaaaaHoooo
----- Original Message -----
From: George Turner
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 8:14 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Re:Tailwind test, to see picture click on 'Reply'
Click on reply, then click on picture and grab a corner or edge with your mouse
and make it as big as you want. Works for me. Neat. George
George Turner <tailwind222@yahoo.com> wrote:
Here is a test picture: I copied Jim's picture and pasted it. If you click
on it it gets bigger I think. George
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Subject: | Re:Tailwind test, to see picture click on 'Reply' |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
DITTO!! YaaaaaaaaaHoooooooooooo........ Oh so typical....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry" <laheze@ev1.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re:Tailwind test, to see picture click on
'Reply'
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Larry <laheze@ev1.net>
>
> George, when I click on the frame, it leaves mail box, then goes on the
> net to Yahoo and says my session has expired but no picture opens. What
> do you think is happening.
> Larry H.
>
> George Turner wrote:
>
> > Click on reply, then click on picture and grab a corner or edge with
> > your mouse and make it as big as you want. Works for me. Neat. George
> >
> > */George Turner <tailwind222@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
> >
> > Here is a test picture: I copied Jim's picture and pasted it. If
> > you click on it it gets bigger I think. George
> >
> >
<http://us.f506.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter/Arizona_Spring_Break_004.jpg?vi
ewimg=1&box=Inbox&MsgId=5608_1336295_25552_1737_134805_0_54308_176529_672035
900&bodyPart=2&filename=Arizona_Spring_Break_004.jpg&tnef=&YY=34332&order=up
&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b>
> >
> > Do not archive
> >
> >
_mail/static/efficiency.html>
> > - Send 10MB messages!
> >
> >
w_mail/static/ease.html>
> > - You start. We finish.
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Test picture |
George.... I tried to "Reply" to your little picture test thingy... It's obvious
that you created it using some kind of Yahooo crap as the reply bounced because
it contained "spam" or in other words AD's....
First of all, a picture did NOT show up in your email. Only a little square with
a tiny red x in the upper left hand corner.
Like Larry and Luc, when I tried to click on it and see the picture, all it did
was open up a Yahoo web page picture viewer thing that said my "Session had expired".
Yeah right.......
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: George Turner
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:51 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Test picture
Here is a test picture: I copied Jim's picture and pasted it. If you click
on it it gets bigger I think. George
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Subject: | Re: Post it to the fricken forum |
Luc is right on all points. This debate should not be about yahoo vs.
matronics so much as making a decision to improve communications in our
group. Two separate, redundant and competing systems, with double
posting and some people only on one or the other and thus missing some
messages is intolerable and stupid. Time to move on. Jerry
On Sunday, September 12, 2004, at 11:04 PM, Luc H. wrote:
> Danny
>
> Chlassociates had nothing to do with us going to Yahoo. The reason we
> went to Yahoo was we needed a way to share photos. Jerry tried to be a
> list moderator but it was a pain in the butt, then Dave Magaw started
> the TailwindForum. The forum at that time allowed us to attach photos
> and=A0archived=A0our photos, we could post to the photo section
> and=A0members could go to the photo section and view the full size image
> (not the current reduced 400x image). Now Yahoo doesn't archive
> photos. Matronics has a far superior archive search.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dan
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 8:31 PM
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Post it to the fricken forum
>
> Fred,
>
> I=92m not going to defend Yahoo over Matronics, but you remember the
> Yahoo group got started because where we were back then at
> Chlassociates went belly up.=A0 What we could do is get Dave to copy all
> the Yahoo messages that are =93worthy=94 into a file every 6 months and
> send it to Matronics. :
)Then we could do searches of the archives
> without the Yahoo advertisements.=A0 There is a whole panel of features
> on the left that Yahoo has there but isn=92t being used, polls being but
> one.=A0 And if you have a picture that would be better if it did not get
> downsized you could put it in the =93files=94 section of Yahoo.=A0 Well
> there I go defending Yahoo.=A0 So I will quit typing.
>
> -Danny
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf OfFred
> Weaver
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 8:59 PM
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Cc: Luc H.
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Post it to the fricken forum
>
>
> Danny Joe had this to say....
>
>
> Cy,
> It was not much of a question and not much of a concern. But it does
> underscore a point, Yahoo has much to offer for a small price
> (ads).=A0 I think Fred is getting pop-ups not just the Yahoo ads.
> Someone should frame a question more of us would be interested in.
> -Danny
>
>
> AND just WHAT does Yahoo have to offer that is anything
> worthwhile??????=A0=A0 Come on Danny boy.=A0 You bet my panties are in a
> wad. I don't get pop ups, I get the standard Yahoo CRAP. Just go to
> the archives and try to read a few emails on a given thread. You have
> to look at the ads unless you quickly mouse to the "continue to the
> message" button. Trying to hide behind the yahoo polls and decide this
> idea is idiotic.......
>
> We are trying to help the whole bunch of Tailwind builders and flyers
> select a common form of communiction.
>
>
> I'm waiting for a some sort of a=A0reasonable answer from your limited
> point of view......
>
> Fred Weaver
>
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Subject: | Re: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. |
Danny's W8 hauls ass, Fred.
Rick
N241SW
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Weaver
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:43 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg.
George, George, George......... Where are the tips that it needs to perform.
Geez, this one will fly like Danny's W8....
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: George Turner
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:37 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Mich. Tailwinds and Fred's mpg.
How many Tailwinds attended the Mich. fly in?
Fred, if you don't get the Tailwind from England, maybe this guy in Australia
will sell you His. They both look like they would be super of fuel mileage.
George
Bruce Grayling, Wittman 'Tailwind' Australia
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Subject: | Re: Emailing: 94.5 kb airplane photo |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Estelle Danner" <edanner@jvlnet.com>
Hey Fred Ijust made a round trip to wausau compared to the trip you just
took not to much i can say about it other than it was sure a lot of fun and
CHEAP to . Dave Conrad sorry about no ride yet we got back late .thank for
puttin Russ H. sweat shirt in the plane and the mugs to i will get with you
and pay you for them . i left at 7:00 am mon. 20 mph head winds smooth @
4.5 2500 rpm 24.5 mp . = 180 mph g.s. 160mph still back to baraboo in 45
min.yippee love that tailwind .! Fred i been doing my lean fuel a bit more i
dont know if its right or not but i do it on a single mag. until it stars to
flutter then go back to rich a little to smooth it out then back to both
mags . then my oil temp will go to 180 degs. 340 cyl. head temp ididnt top
of yet i dont know about the fuel burn but if the gauge is close not much
fuel CHEAP FAST YEEHAAAAAA BOB D.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Emailing: 94.5 kb airplane photo
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
<Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:39 PM
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Emailing: 94.5 kb airplane photo
>
>
> >
> > This is our hanger house at Indian Hills Airpark, Salome AZ.
> > Two TWs way in the back of the hanger, trigear now owned by Dave Magaw,
> TD
> > 168Y Gary Volkman, RV6 Ted Rosario, Akro hybrid Jim Rust and Harmon
> Rocket
> > Mytyweav. Only two of the five are TWs but all five owners own TWs.
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. |
I'm sure it does......... Like 160 or so...
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg.
Danny's W8 hauls ass, Fred.
Rick
N241SW
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Weaver
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:43 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg.
George, George, George......... Where are the tips that it needs to perform.
Geez, this one will fly like Danny's W8....
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: George Turner
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:37 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Mich. Tailwinds and Fred's mpg.
How many Tailwinds attended the Mich. fly in?
Fred, if you don't get the Tailwind from England, maybe this guy in Australia
will sell you His. They both look like they would be super of fuel mileage.
George
Bruce Grayling, Wittman 'Tailwind' Australia
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Subject: | Re: Fuel and Speed |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Yeah Bob... Great fun getting these speeds and burns.. The guage
information doesn't really give us anything. Guages are all over the map.
You need to carefully top off your tank and provide the actual amount of gas
used. You will be glad you did. BTW, you are probably running too rich. You
old hotrodder, what does your exhaust look like AND what do your plugs tell
you?
I'll bet you could really make that thing sing....
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: "Estelle Danner" <edanner@jvlnet.com>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Emailing: 94.5 kb airplane photo
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Estelle Danner" <edanner@jvlnet.com>
>
> Hey Fred Ijust made a round trip to wausau compared to the trip you
just
> took not to much i can say about it other than it was sure a lot of fun
and
> CHEAP to . Dave Conrad sorry about no ride yet we got back late .thank for
> puttin Russ H. sweat shirt in the plane and the mugs to i will get with
you
> and pay you for them . i left at 7:00 am mon. 20 mph head winds smooth @
> 4.5 2500 rpm 24.5 mp . = 180 mph g.s. 160mph still back to baraboo in
45
> min.yippee love that tailwind .! Fred i been doing my lean fuel a bit more
i
> dont know if its right or not but i do it on a single mag. until it stars
to
> flutter then go back to rich a little to smooth it out then back to both
> mags . then my oil temp will go to 180 degs. 340 cyl. head temp ididnt top
> of yet i dont know about the fuel burn but if the gauge is close not much
> fuel CHEAP FAST YEEHAAAAAA BOB D.
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Subject: | Re: Test picture |
Goerge, couldn't see the test picture. And the link to Yahoo got me a
"Session Timed Out" message.
Mike in Boise
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Subject: | Re: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. |
Hi group, Why does Danny's W8 go so fast? My cruise is 152 MPH and top speed at
2500 feet AGL is 165 but cruise at 160 on a 0-200 Continental. NO way. Suggestions?
Jack Steele
W8 C-FSNY
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Subject: | Re: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. |
Jack,
The 160 is flat out 2750 rpm and 1500 ft. That is with no fairings except
the wing roots though. It's got potential.
-Danny
On 9/13/2004 12:25:49 PM, tailwind-list@matronics.com wrote:
> Hi group, Why does Danny's W8 go so fast? My cruise is 152 MPH and top
speed at 2500 feet AGL is 165 but cruise at 160 on a 0-200 Continental. NO
way. Suggestions?
>
> Jack Steele
> W8 C-FSNY
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Subject: | Re: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. |
Jack, I was just guessing since Rick didn't really give us a number. I know better....
I owned the sister ship and with a Lyc 0-290 D2, the fastest I could
cruise or top out was 163 mph. I can imagine Dan's plane going maybe 160 or a
bit slower. But his rate of climb will be nothing to write home about.
Right Rick????
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Steele
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg.
Hi group, Why does Danny's W8 go so fast? My cruise is 152 MPH and top speed
at 2500 feet AGL is 165 but cruise at 160 on a 0-200 Continental. NO way. Suggestions?
Jack Steele
W8 C-FSNY
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Subject: | Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Weaver [SMTP:Mytyweav@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 2:02 PM
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg.
>
> Jack, I was just guessing since Rick didn't really give us a number. I
> know better.... I owned the sister ship and with a Lyc 0-290 D2, the
> fastest I could cruise or top out was 163 mph. I can imagine Dan's plane
> going maybe 160 or a bit slower. But his rate of climb will be nothing to
> write home about.
> Right Rick????
> Weav
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jack Steele <mailto:jcsteele@ripnet.com>
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com <mailto:tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg.
>
> Hi group, Why does Danny's W8 go so fast? My cruise is 152 MPH and
> top speed at 2500 feet AGL is 165 but cruise at 160 on a 0-200
> Continental. NO way. Suggestions?
>
> Jack Steele
> W8 C-FSNY
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
You guys are all full of it. Lets all line up next year at Baraboo and race
around the airport.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Weaver [SMTP:Mytyweav@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 2:02 PM
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg.
>
> Jack, I was just guessing since Rick didn't really give us a number. I
> know better.... I owned the sister ship and with a Lyc 0-290 D2, the
> fastest I could cruise or top out was 163 mph. I can imagine Dan's plane
> going maybe 160 or a bit slower. But his rate of climb will be nothing to
> write home about.
> Right Rick????
> Weav
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jack Steele <mailto:jcsteele@ripnet.com>
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com <mailto:tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg.
>
> Hi group, Why does Danny's W8 go so fast? My cruise is 152 MPH and
> top speed at 2500 feet AGL is 165 but cruise at 160 on a 0-200
> Continental. NO way. Suggestions?
>
> Jack Steele
> W8 C-FSNY
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
Now that I would pay to see!
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg.
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
You guys are all full of it. Lets all line up next year at Baraboo and race
around the airport.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Weaver [SMTP:Mytyweav@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 2:02 PM
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg.
>
> Jack, I was just guessing since Rick didn't really give us a number. I
> know better.... I owned the sister ship and with a Lyc 0-290 D2, the
> fastest I could cruise or top out was 163 mph. I can imagine Dan's plane
> going maybe 160 or a bit slower. But his rate of climb will be nothing to
> write home about.
> Right Rick????
> Weav
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jack Steele <mailto:jcsteele@ripnet.com>
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com <mailto:tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re Tailwinds and Fred's mpg.
>
> Hi group, Why does Danny's W8 go so fast? My cruise is 152 MPH and
> top speed at 2500 feet AGL is 165 but cruise at 160 on a 0-200
> Continental. NO way. Suggestions?
>
> Jack Steele
> W8 C-FSNY
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Emailing: 94.5 kb airplane photo |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Dave Conrad <dconrad@dwave.net>
Bob, The Mugs are for delivery of the cowl and for being an all around
nice guy. No payment wanted. Dave
On Monday, September 13, 2004, at 09:32 AM, Estelle Danner wrote:
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Estelle Danner"
> <edanner@jvlnet.com>
>
> Hey Fred Ijust made a round trip to wausau compared to the trip
> you just
> took not to much i can say about it other than it was sure a lot of
> fun and
> CHEAP to . Dave Conrad sorry about no ride yet we got back late .thank
> for
> puttin Russ H. sweat shirt in the plane and the mugs to i will get
> with you
> and pay you for them . i left at 7:00 am mon. 20 mph head winds
> smooth @
> 4.5 2500 rpm 24.5 mp . = 180 mph g.s. 160mph still back to baraboo
> in 45
> min.yippee love that tailwind .! Fred i been doing my lean fuel a bit
> more i
> dont know if its right or not but i do it on a single mag. until it
> stars to
> flutter then go back to rich a little to smooth it out then back to
> both
> mags . then my oil temp will go to 180 degs. 340 cyl. head temp ididnt
> top
> of yet i dont know about the fuel burn but if the gauge is close not
> much
> fuel CHEAP FAST YEEHAAAAAA BOB D.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:45 PM
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>> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
>> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:39 PM
>> Subject: Tailwind-List: Emailing: 94.5 kb airplane photo
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>>> This is our hanger house at Indian Hills Airpark, Salome AZ.
>>> Two TWs way in the back of the hanger, trigear now owned by Dave
>>> Magaw,
>> TD
>>> 168Y Gary Volkman, RV6 Ted Rosario, Akro hybrid Jim Rust and Harmon
>> Rocket
>>> Mytyweav. Only two of the five are TWs but all five owners own TWs.
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "DaveM" <dmagaw@att.net>
That's how I like to fly--2600/2650 RPM, and about 2500' AGL. I like to see
the ground go by. To heck with economy, though I do lean it some. I just
wish there weren't so many bugs at those altitudes. I also don't have a
marathon bladder or iron butt, so I land every couple hours or so--more
worse economy! But I like it that way.
Dave
N168A
N202Q
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tail wheel
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
>
> Going to Baraboo this year I flew at 4500 ft. 8.9 gal./hr. or about 20
> mpg. I crusie at 2650/2700 RPM @ 185/190 mph, I am still breaking in new
> cylinders.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 12:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tail wheel
>
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> >
> > Jim.... How is it that you think you are getting 27 to 30 miles per
> gallon?
> > I just figured out some of my best numbers and at 208 mph cruise
speed,
> > burning 7.6 gallons per hour, I'm only getting 26... And those are
> real
> > miles. That is a clean W10 that weighs a lot less, uses a Lycoming
> 0-360
> > with fixed pitch flying at 16000 feet running lean as can be....
Now...
> > With a favorable tailwind component, I've seen much bigger numbers but
> they
> > don't count for this discussion.
> > Malcolm, you have a clean trike running a Lyc 0-320.... What have
you
> seen
> > as your best "real" mpg figure?
> > Dave Magaw, same parameters, same question? I would love to see
Magaw's
> > numbers as he has flown the airplane over several thousand miles and
at
> > altitudes that would provide good numbers.
> > Our aspect ratio's and efficiency just have to deliver better
> results....
> > Jim, are you turning that engine down around 2200 rpm at altitudes
> of????
> > And when you are, what is the "true airspeed" that provides you with
> 27-30
> > mpg?
> > All that without wheelpants and the flatbottomed W8 Wing? I'm
> stumped....
> > Weav
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Mcculleyja@aol.com>
> > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 9:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: tail wheel
> >
> >
> > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Mcculleyja@aol.com
> >
> > Jim said....
> >
> > Snip, Snip, Snip........
> > >
> > > Without wheel pants yet, I have seen GPS confirmed true airspeed of
> 205
> > mph,
> > > level flight, full power, and 2,500 fpm max ROC, with an average ROC
> to
> > 10,000
> > > feet of 2,000 fpm (5 minutes from start of takeoff). My main
interest,
> > > however, is in long range economy cruise. It is consistently
capable
> of
> > 27 to 30
> > > mile per gallon results. With a total fuel quantity of 45 gallons,
> the
> > non stop
> > > range is 1100 plus miles, with required reserves. Have already done
> that
> > but
> > > would like to test the range and cockpit stamina with a West to East
> > flight
> > > including a nice 30-to-50 westerly wind component! The larger cabin
> is
> > very
> > > helpful in the comfort factor.
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Jim C, I noticed in the Air Tech manual the need for venting all cavities to remove
solvent vapors. Is this a problem with the closed bays on the control surfaces?
Paul
pholmes@wmis.net
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Subject: | Re: Mich. Tailwinds and Fred's mpg. |
I saw one exactly like that at a rubber band meet and it flew better than the real
expensive ones.
Earl
----- Original Message -----
From: George Turner
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:37 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Mich. Tailwinds and Fred's mpg.
How many Tailwinds attended the Mich. fly in?
Fred, if you don't get the Tailwind from England, maybe this guy in Australia
will sell you His. They both look like they would be super of fuel mileage.
George
Bruce Grayling, Wittman 'Tailwind' Australia
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Subject: | Re: Air Tech primer |
Paul, it didn't seem to be a problem. Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Holmes
To: Tailwind-list
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 6:19 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Air Tech primer
Jim C, I noticed in the Air Tech manual the need for venting all cavities to
remove solvent vapors. Is this a problem with the closed bays on the control surfaces?
Paul
pholmes@wmis.net
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Subject: | Re: Air Tech primer |
Paul,
I've used Air Tech for years with no problems . The venting really isn't an
issue .
Earl
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Holmes
To: Tailwind-list
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 7:19 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Air Tech primer
Jim C, I noticed in the Air Tech manual the need for venting all cavities to
remove solvent vapors. Is this a problem with the closed bays on the control surfaces?
Paul
pholmes@wmis.net
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Subject: | W9 Tailwind for sale |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
I just talked to Forest Lovley and he has his TW for sale. It is very
similar to Dennis Flamini's. It has a O320 B2B 160hp with about 800 TT and
70 SMOH. 700 on the airframe, KX155 navcom, spare spinner and nosebowl. It
is 4" wider than a regular TW but not higher like Dennis's. This is a real
nice TW, he is asking in the $30-$35,000 range. It also has a new wood prop.
His phone number is 952 492 6126 Minneapolis area.
email is ftlovley@aol.com Jim C
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Subject: | Re: W9 Tailwind for sale |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
Forgot to mention, the empty weight is 890 pounds
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
Subject: Tailwind-List: W9 Tailwind for sale
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement"
<168x@merr.com>
>
> I just talked to Forest Lovley and he has his TW for sale. It is very
> similar to Dennis Flamini's. It has a O320 B2B 160hp with about 800 TT and
> 70 SMOH. 700 on the airframe, KX155 navcom, spare spinner and nosebowl. It
> is 4" wider than a regular TW but not higher like Dennis's. This is a real
> nice TW, he is asking in the $30-$35,000 range. It also has a new wood
prop.
> His phone number is 952 492 6126 Minneapolis area.
> email is ftlovley@aol.com Jim C
>
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Here is the fix on my control rod. First picture is the fork end. Upper
fork is .072 and one piece. The fork on the bottom is .035 two pieces and
the bottom piece is not welded save for what amounts to a tack, all this and
ground on too. The next picture shows over all comparison, what was there is
.25 dia and thick enough wall to cut threads for the 3/16s rod end. I made
the replacement .5x.035 with 5/16 bolt welded in for the rod end. What was
there weighs 2 oz, the new one as you see it weighs 5 oz. You can build
some things too light for the duty they will see. (My landings)
-Danny
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