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1. 05:01 AM - Re: Ribs Complete (Ruhnke, Mike)
2. 05:32 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Brian Alley)
3. 06:03 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Eric Schlanser)
4. 06:08 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Stephen Doughty)
5. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com)
6. 06:51 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com)
7. 07:01 AM - Epibond (Paul Holmes)
8. 07:15 AM - Re: Ribs Complete (Fred Weaver)
9. 07:49 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Stephen Doughty)
10. 08:53 AM - Re: Epibond (Jerry Hey)
11. 09:58 AM - Re: Epibond (Jim and Donna Clement)
12. 02:31 PM - re primers (Paul Holmes)
13. 05:24 PM - Re: Epibond (mlinda@wt.net)
14. 07:16 PM - Re: Epibond (John Downing)
15. 08:55 PM - Re: re primers (Dave Conrad)
16. 09:39 PM - N540CJ (CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind)
17. 09:49 PM - Re: N540CJ (Dan)
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If I had to do mine again. Knowing what I know now about the root connection.
I would not reduce any cross section at the root end to fit the root rib. I
would instead remove the nose from the root rib and keep as much spar thickness
as possible. Just my opinion.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Ribs Complete
Yes, I'm sure. The photo I sent is deceptive. It does not show any of the full
size main ribs. The rib in question is the one of the wing tip ribs. There is
a smaller rib, that is not shown in the pic. It will be built when we fit the
ribs to the spars, and finish the wood wing tips. I have attached a picture of
all of the completed ribs except for the rib at the tip of the wing.
If the photo file is to large please let me know. If it is ok then I will use this
resolution to send photos to the group.
CJ Kirby
memphistailwind@bellsouth.net
N540CJ
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| Subject: | Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com>
Malcom has a nice grass strip, I've been in there with
my W-10. Urbana Grimes is 10-15 minutes away with a
great restraunt and is the home of Grimes lighting.
Lots of neat airplanes at Urbana. I'd vote for Malcoms
place, where else in Ohio can we flyin and have 3
projects under construction? WOW!!!
=====
BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
304-872-7938 shop
304-562-6800 home
How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
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| Subject: | Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind |
Malcolm, I would need to get a ride or come on my folding bicycle from KUYF to
your place. I can't get the Comanche out even if I get it in in one piece which
is improbable. Maybe in cold weather. Like January. What are the GPS coordinates
for your place? Eric
Lovelace <mlovelace@woh.rr.com> wrote:--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace"
I am sure we could have one at KUYF, which is 6 miles from my strip or if
everyone wants to try my 1850 ft strip. We can have it at my place any
weekend. I have 3 Tailwinds under construction.
Malcolm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Doughty"
Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
>
> Malcolm, we really wanted to be there, but we left on the 4th to spend 9
> days at the cottage and did not know the gathering was for the following
> weekend. We would have flown over if we would have known. Maybe we
should
> have one down in Ohio somewhere.
>
> Steve -in Michigan
>
>
> >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:38:58 -0400
> >
> >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> >
> >Steve we did not see you Saturday at Plainwell. Sorry we missed you.
> >
> >Malcolm
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:07 PM
> > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > >
> > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > >
> > >
> > > Wow Weav! Why don't you tell us what you really think? :)
> > >
> > > Steve -in Michigan, plowing skies in a Cherokee for now.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Fred Weaver"
> > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > >To:
> > > >Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:52:05 -0700
> > > >
> > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Hey MIKE!!! Try for just a moment to learn something from others
that
> > > >have
> > > >been there......
> > > >
> > > >First of all.... There is no substitute for Horsepower AND
> >Altitude....
> > > >From Aviator 1.
> > > >
> > > >Next.. How many times do you want to buy an engine? You already did
> >it
> > > >once (Buick) and now you are thinking about saving money by only
going
> > > with
> > > >100 HP?? Let's see, that will be about $5,000 - $10,000..... and
> > > then
> > > >you will fly it....."Recreationally"?
> > > >
> > > >Then after you fly off your 40 hours or so, you might take your wife
or
> > > >daughter or son OR like Magaw did, Took his mom for a ride. Then you
> > > decide
> > > >to go somewhere and take a picnic lunch with you along with some
> > > Pepsi's..
> > > >Have to have some weight for this example... Oh boy, you're both
> > > excited
> > > >to be flying somewhere for a picnic.. You have discovered a neat
> >little
> > > >place where you can land and there is a small river nearby where you
> >both
> > > >can go swimming too.. Man, this is getting fun, all this
> >"Recreational"
> > > >flying eh? So, you hop in your 100 HP Tailwind and head for the
> >hills...
> > > >You land and enjoy your time..... NOW, it's time to come home. It's
> > > about
> > > >2:30 pm and damn it's hot.... but soon, you guys will be up high in
> >the
> > > >nice cool air flying home, right? Wrong,.... First you have to
> > > >successfully takeoff in the DENSITY ALTITUDE from where you are. But
> > > hey,
> > > >you know your plane, it will be no problem....... You take off all
the
> > > time
> > > >to go flying. So you line er up and jam the throttle in to the
> >stops....
> > > >Away you go......sorta....as you roll, you lean it just a tad for
more
> > > >power...and you go and go and go and you aren't really setting the
> > > world
> > > >on fire with your accelleration. Your ass starts to pucker some as
you
> > > >barely lift off before having to abort. Now the damn trees are
getting
> > > real
> > > >close too and your rate of climb stinks in the heat of the day.
Whew!!!
> > > >you
> > > >just made it over the tree's and around the big rock on the left. It
> >is
> > > at
> > > >this moment that you will remember all these "devilish" emails about
> > > >putting
> > > >the right engine on in the first place. Of course, then you have to
go
> > > >home
> > > >and explain to your wife how you need to spend a bunch more money now
> >for
> > > >another engine. But first you have to buy her a bunch of new
furniture
> > > for
> > > >the house so she won't be so pissed off about it.. Of course, you
tell
> > > her
> > > >it's not that big a deal, you can sell the engine you had in the
first
> > > >place. Gee, how much is that Buick worth??? even with ALL the cool
> > > >accesories you bought for it??? And then, wow oh wow, now you have a
> > > 0-200
> > > >or an 0-235 for sale too. Gotta find someone that really needs one of
> > > those
> > > >so you can crate it up and ship it somewhere Kinda like Bob
> > > Connors....
> > > >( I couldn't resist) sorry Bob.
> > > >
> > > >Just how much time and money do you have that you want to waste?
Just
> > > >imagine for a moment, that you could have purchased a nice 0-320 in
the
> > > >first place, just like Eric did...
> > > >
> > > >Weav
> > > >
> > > >PS. Hahahahhahaha..... I know, I know..... hahahhaha.. I'm a
> >bad,
> > > >bad boy...and a probably not a good role model either. But at
times,
> > > I'm
> > > >like that cute little angel.......trying to save your bacon.
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > >To:
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:50 AM
> > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ever seen the commercials where the guy has the devil on one
> >shoulder
> > > >and
> > > >an angel on the other. Guess which one Weaver would be?
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fred
> > > > > Weaver
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:13 PM
> > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Makes no difference...... Power is required....
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:23 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For me this airplane will mostly be used for recreation. Cross
> > > >country
> > > > > would be secondary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Luc
> >H.
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:00 AM
> > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Luc H."
<4luc@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 100 hp is great if your building a Cub or other airplane with a
> > > single
> > > > > digit
> > > > > > wing loading.
> > > > > > Luc
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:11 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I looking to put a Lycoming on my plane. Something around 100
hp.
> > > I
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > want to go broke doing it. Help.
> > > > > >
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| Subject: | Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
Malcolm, I think that would be great, just give me notice as to when and we
will make plans.
I will have to practice up on my short field TO & landings. :)
Steve -in Michigan
>From: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
>Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:27:01 -0400
>
>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
>
>I am sure we could have one at KUYF, which is 6 miles from my strip or if
>everyone wants to try my 1850 ft strip. We can have it at my place any
>weekend. I have 3 Tailwinds under construction.
>
>Malcolm
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
>To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:36 AM
>Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
><usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Malcolm, we really wanted to be there, but we left on the 4th to spend 9
> > days at the cottage and did not know the gathering was for the following
> > weekend. We would have flown over if we would have known. Maybe we
>should
> > have one down in Ohio somewhere.
> >
> > Steve -in Michigan
> >
> >
> > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:38:58 -0400
> > >
> > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > >
> > >Steve we did not see you Saturday at Plainwell. Sorry we missed you.
> > >
> > >Malcolm
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:07 PM
> > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > >
> > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > Wow Weav! Why don't you tell us what you really think? :)
> > > >
> > > > Steve -in Michigan, plowing skies in a Cherokee for now.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > >Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:52:05 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > >
> > > > >Hey MIKE!!! Try for just a moment to learn something from others
>that
> > > > >have
> > > > >been there......
> > > > >
> > > > >First of all.... There is no substitute for Horsepower AND
> > >Altitude....
> > > > >From Aviator 1.
> > > > >
> > > > >Next.. How many times do you want to buy an engine? You already
>did
> > >it
> > > > >once (Buick) and now you are thinking about saving money by only
>going
> > > > with
> > > > >100 HP?? Let's see, that will be about $5,000 - $10,000.....
>and
> > > > then
> > > > >you will fly it....."Recreationally"?
> > > > >
> > > > >Then after you fly off your 40 hours or so, you might take your
>wife
>or
> > > > >daughter or son OR like Magaw did, Took his mom for a ride. Then
>you
> > > > decide
> > > > >to go somewhere and take a picnic lunch with you along with some
> > > > Pepsi's..
> > > > >Have to have some weight for this example... Oh boy, you're both
> > > > excited
> > > > >to be flying somewhere for a picnic.. You have discovered a neat
> > >little
> > > > >place where you can land and there is a small river nearby where
>you
> > >both
> > > > >can go swimming too.. Man, this is getting fun, all this
> > >"Recreational"
> > > > >flying eh? So, you hop in your 100 HP Tailwind and head for the
> > >hills...
> > > > >You land and enjoy your time..... NOW, it's time to come home.
>It's
> > > > about
> > > > >2:30 pm and damn it's hot.... but soon, you guys will be up high
>in
> > >the
> > > > >nice cool air flying home, right? Wrong,.... First you have to
> > > > >successfully takeoff in the DENSITY ALTITUDE from where you are.
>But
> > > > hey,
> > > > >you know your plane, it will be no problem....... You take off all
>the
> > > > time
> > > > >to go flying. So you line er up and jam the throttle in to the
> > >stops....
> > > > >Away you go......sorta....as you roll, you lean it just a tad for
>more
> > > > >power...and you go and go and go and you aren't really setting
>the
> > > > world
> > > > >on fire with your accelleration. Your ass starts to pucker some as
>you
> > > > >barely lift off before having to abort. Now the damn trees are
>getting
> > > > real
> > > > >close too and your rate of climb stinks in the heat of the day.
>Whew!!!
> > > > >you
> > > > >just made it over the tree's and around the big rock on the left.
>It
> > >is
> > > > at
> > > > >this moment that you will remember all these "devilish" emails
>about
> > > > >putting
> > > > >the right engine on in the first place. Of course, then you have
>to
>go
> > > > >home
> > > > >and explain to your wife how you need to spend a bunch more money
>now
> > >for
> > > > >another engine. But first you have to buy her a bunch of new
>furniture
> > > > for
> > > > >the house so she won't be so pissed off about it.. Of course, you
>tell
> > > > her
> > > > >it's not that big a deal, you can sell the engine you had in the
>first
> > > > >place. Gee, how much is that Buick worth??? even with ALL the cool
> > > > >accesories you bought for it??? And then, wow oh wow, now you have
>a
> > > > 0-200
> > > > >or an 0-235 for sale too. Gotta find someone that really needs one
>of
> > > > those
> > > > >so you can crate it up and ship it somewhere Kinda like Bob
> > > > Connors....
> > > > >( I couldn't resist) sorry Bob.
> > > > >
> > > > >Just how much time and money do you have that you want to waste?
>Just
> > > > >imagine for a moment, that you could have purchased a nice 0-320 in
>the
> > > > >first place, just like Eric did...
> > > > >
> > > > >Weav
> > > > >
> > > > >PS. Hahahahhahaha..... I know, I know..... hahahhaha.. I'm
>a
> > >bad,
> > > > >bad boy...and a probably not a good role model either. But at
>times,
> > > > I'm
> > > > >like that cute little angel.......trying to save your bacon.
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:50 AM
> > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ever seen the commercials where the guy has the devil on one
> > >shoulder
> > > > >and
> > > > >an angel on the other. Guess which one Weaver would be?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>Fred
> > > > > > Weaver
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:13 PM
> > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > ><Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Makes no difference...... Power is required....
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:23 AM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For me this airplane will mostly be used for recreation.
>Cross
> > > > >country
> > > > > > would be secondary.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>Luc
> > >H.
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:00 AM
> > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Luc H."
><4luc@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 100 hp is great if your building a Cub or other airplane with
>a
> > > > single
> > > > > > digit
> > > > > > > wing loading.
> > > > > > > Luc
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:11 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I looking to put a Lycoming on my plane. Something around 100
>hp.
> > > > I
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > want to go broke doing it. Help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike NW Illinois
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
No problem, I will pick up the people that can't make it into my strip. I
will e-mail you the coordinates.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Schlanser [SMTP:eschlanser@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 9:03 AM
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>
> Malcolm, I would need to get a ride or come on my folding bicycle from
> KUYF to your place. I can't get the Comanche out even if I get it in in
> one piece which is improbable. Maybe in cold weather. Like January. What
> are the GPS coordinates for your place? Eric
>
> Lovelace <mlovelace@woh.rr.com> wrote:
>
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace"
>
> I am sure we could have one at KUYF, which is 6 miles from my strip
> or if
> everyone wants to try my 1850 ft strip. We can have it at my place
> any
> weekend. I have 3 Tailwinds under construction.
>
> Malcolm
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Doughty"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:36 AM
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
>
> >
> > Malcolm, we really wanted to be there, but we left on the 4th to
> spend 9
> > days at the cottage and did not know the gathering was for the
> following
> > weekend. We would have flown over if we would have known. Maybe we
> should
> have one down in Ohio somewhere.
> >
> > Steve -in Michigan
> >
> >
> > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:38:58 -0400
> > >
> > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > >
> > >Steve we did not see you Saturday at Plainwell. Sorry we missed
> you.
> > >
> > >Malcolm
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:07 PM
> > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > >
> > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Wow Weav! Why don't you tell us what you really think? :)
> > > >
> > > > Steve -in Michigan, plowing skies in a Cherokee for now.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > >To:
> > > > >Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:52:05 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Hey MIKE!!! Try for just a moment to learn something from
> others
> that
> > > > >have
> > > > >been there......
> > > > >
> > > > >First of all.... There is no substitute for Horsepower AND
> > >Altitude....
> > > > >From Aviator 1.
> > > > >
> > > > >Next.. How many times do you want to buy an engine? You
> already did
> > >it
> > > > >once (Buick) and now you are thinking about saving money by
> only
> going
> > > > with
> > > > >100 HP?? Let's see, that will be about $5,000 - $10,000.....
> and
> > > > then
> > > > >you will fly it....."Recreationally"?
> > > > >
> > > > >Then after you fly off your 40 hours or so, you might take
> your wife
> or
> > > > >daughter or son OR like Magaw did, Took his mom for a ride.
> Then you
> > > > decide
> > > > >to go somewhere and take a picnic lunch with you along with
> some
> > > > Pepsi's..
> > > > >Have to have some weight for this example... Oh boy, you're
> both
> > > > excited
> > > > >to be fl ying somewhere for a picnic.. You have discovered a
> neat
> > >little
> > > > >place where you can land and there is a small river nearby
> where you
> > >both
> > > > >can go swimming too.. Man, this is getting fun, all this
> > >"Recreational"
> > > > >flying eh? So, you hop in your 100 HP Tailwind and head for
> the
> > >hills...
> > > > >You land and enjoy your time..... NOW, it's time to come
> home. It's
> > > > about
> > > > >2:30 pm and damn it's hot.... but soon, you guys will be up
> high in
> > >the
> > > > >nice cool air flying home, right? Wrong,.... First you have
> to
> > > > >successfully takeoff in the DENSITY ALTITUDE from where you
> are. But
> > > > hey,
> > > > >you know your plane, it will be no problem....... You take
> off all
> the
> > > > time
> > > > >to go flying. So you line er up and j am the throttle in to
> the
> > >stops....
> > > > >Away you go......sorta....as you roll, you lean it just a tad
> for
> more
> > > > >power...and you go and go and go and you aren't really
> setting the
> > > > world
> > > > >on fire with your accelleration. Your ass starts to pucker
> some as
> you
> > > > >barely lift off before having to abort. Now the damn trees
> are
> getting
> > > > real
> > > > >close too and your rate of climb stinks in the heat of the
> day.
> Whew!!!
> > > > >you
> > > > >just made it over the tree's and around the big rock on the
> left. It
> > >is
> > > > at
> > > > >this moment that you will remember all these "devilish"
> emails about
> > > > >putting
> > > > >the right engine on in the first place. Of course, then you
> have to
> go
> > > > >home
> > > > >and expl ain to your wife how you need to spend a bunch more
> money now
> > >for
> > > > >another engine. But first you have to buy her a bunch of new
> furniture
> > > > for
> > > > >the house so she won't be so pissed off about it.. Of course,
> you
> tell
> > > > her
> > > > >it's not that big a deal, you can sell the engine you had in
> the
> first
> > > > >place. Gee, how much is that Buick worth??? even with ALL the
> cool
> > > > >accesories you bought for it??? And then, wow oh wow, now you
> have a
> > > > 0-200
> > > > >or an 0-235 for sale too. Gotta find someone that really
> needs one of
> > > > those
> > > > >so you can crate it up and ship it somewhere Kinda like Bob
> > > > Connors....
> > > > >( I couldn't resist) sorry Bob.
> > > > >
> > > > >Just how much time and money do you have that you want to
> waste?
> Just
> > > > >imagine for a moment, that you could have purchased a nice
> 0-320 in
> the
> > > > >first place, just like Eric did...
> > > > >
> > > > >Weav
> > > > >
> > > > >PS. Hahahahhahaha..... I know, I know..... hahahhaha.. I'm a
> > >bad,
> > > > >bad boy...and a probably not a good role model either. But at
> times,
> > > > I'm
> > > > >like that cute little angel.......trying to save your bacon.
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > >To:
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:50 AM
> > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ever seen the commercials where the guy has the devil on
> one
> > >shoulder
> > > > >and
> > > > >an angel on the other. Guess which one Weaver would be?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf
> Of Fred
> > > > > > Weaver
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:13 PM
> > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Makes no difference...... Power is required....
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:23 AM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For me this airplane will mostly be used for recreation.
> Cross
> > > > >country
> > > > > > would be secondary.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On
> Behalf Of
> Luc
> > >H.
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:00 AM
> > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Luc H."
> <4luc@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 100 hp is great if your building a Cub or other airplane
> with a
> > > > single
> > > > > > digit
> > > > > > > wing loading.
> > > > > > > Luc
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:11 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I looking to put a Lycoming on my plane. Something
> around 100
> hp.
> > > > I
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > want to go broke doing it. Help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike NW Illinois
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
Steve KUYF is 6 miles if you don't want to chance it. When is a good time
for everyone? Some Saturday in Oct.?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:59 AM
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
>
> Malcolm, I think that would be great, just give me notice as to when and
> we
> will make plans.
>
> I will have to practice up on my short field TO & landings. :)
>
> Steve -in Michigan
>
>
> >From: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:27:01 -0400
> >
> >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> >
> >I am sure we could have one at KUYF, which is 6 miles from my strip or if
> >everyone wants to try my 1850 ft strip. We can have it at my place any
> >weekend. I have 3 Tailwinds under construction.
> >
> >Malcolm
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:36 AM
> >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> >
> >
> > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> ><usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > >
> > > Malcolm, we really wanted to be there, but we left on the 4th to spend
> 9
> > > days at the cottage and did not know the gathering was for the
> following
> > > weekend. We would have flown over if we would have known. Maybe we
> >should
> > > have one down in Ohio somewhere.
> > >
> > > Steve -in Michigan
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:38:58 -0400
> > > >
> > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > >
> > > >Steve we did not see you Saturday at Plainwell. Sorry we missed you.
> > > >
> > > >Malcolm
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:07 PM
> > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > >
> > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Wow Weav! Why don't you tell us what you really think? :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve -in Michigan, plowing skies in a Cherokee for now.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > >Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:52:05 -0700
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hey MIKE!!! Try for just a moment to learn something from
> others
> >that
> > > > > >have
> > > > > >been there......
> > > > > >
> > > > > >First of all.... There is no substitute for Horsepower AND
> > > >Altitude....
> > > > > >From Aviator 1.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Next.. How many times do you want to buy an engine? You already
>
> >did
> > > >it
> > > > > >once (Buick) and now you are thinking about saving money by only
> >going
> > > > > with
> > > > > >100 HP?? Let's see, that will be about $5,000 - $10,000.....
>
> >and
> > > > > then
> > > > > >you will fly it....."Recreationally"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Then after you fly off your 40 hours or so, you might take your
> >wife
> >or
> > > > > >daughter or son OR like Magaw did, Took his mom for a ride. Then
> >you
> > > > > decide
> > > > > >to go somewhere and take a picnic lunch with you along with some
> > > > > Pepsi's..
> > > > > >Have to have some weight for this example... Oh boy, you're
> both
> > > > > excited
> > > > > >to be flying somewhere for a picnic.. You have discovered a neat
> > > >little
> > > > > >place where you can land and there is a small river nearby where
> >you
> > > >both
> > > > > >can go swimming too.. Man, this is getting fun, all this
> > > >"Recreational"
> > > > > >flying eh? So, you hop in your 100 HP Tailwind and head for the
> > > >hills...
> > > > > >You land and enjoy your time..... NOW, it's time to come home.
> >It's
> > > > > about
> > > > > >2:30 pm and damn it's hot.... but soon, you guys will be up
> high
> >in
> > > >the
> > > > > >nice cool air flying home, right? Wrong,.... First you have to
> > > > > >successfully takeoff in the DENSITY ALTITUDE from where you are.
>
> >But
> > > > > hey,
> > > > > >you know your plane, it will be no problem....... You take off
> all
> >the
> > > > > time
> > > > > >to go flying. So you line er up and jam the throttle in to the
> > > >stops....
> > > > > >Away you go......sorta....as you roll, you lean it just a tad for
> >more
> > > > > >power...and you go and go and go and you aren't really setting
> >the
> > > > > world
> > > > > >on fire with your accelleration. Your ass starts to pucker some
> as
> >you
> > > > > >barely lift off before having to abort. Now the damn trees are
> >getting
> > > > > real
> > > > > >close too and your rate of climb stinks in the heat of the day.
> >Whew!!!
> > > > > >you
> > > > > >just made it over the tree's and around the big rock on the left.
>
> >It
> > > >is
> > > > > at
> > > > > >this moment that you will remember all these "devilish" emails
> >about
> > > > > >putting
> > > > > >the right engine on in the first place. Of course, then you have
>
> >to
> >go
> > > > > >home
> > > > > >and explain to your wife how you need to spend a bunch more money
>
> >now
> > > >for
> > > > > >another engine. But first you have to buy her a bunch of new
> >furniture
> > > > > for
> > > > > >the house so she won't be so pissed off about it.. Of course,
> you
> >tell
> > > > > her
> > > > > >it's not that big a deal, you can sell the engine you had in the
> >first
> > > > > >place. Gee, how much is that Buick worth??? even with ALL the
> cool
> > > > > >accesories you bought for it??? And then, wow oh wow, now you
> have
> >a
> > > > > 0-200
> > > > > >or an 0-235 for sale too. Gotta find someone that really needs
> one
> >of
> > > > > those
> > > > > >so you can crate it up and ship it somewhere Kinda like Bob
> > > > > Connors....
> > > > > >( I couldn't resist) sorry Bob.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Just how much time and money do you have that you want to waste?
> >Just
> > > > > >imagine for a moment, that you could have purchased a nice 0-320
> in
> >the
> > > > > >first place, just like Eric did...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Weav
> > > > > >
> > > > > >PS. Hahahahhahaha..... I know, I know..... hahahhaha..
> I'm
> >a
> > > >bad,
> > > > > >bad boy...and a probably not a good role model either. But at
> >times,
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > >like that cute little angel.......trying to save your bacon.
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:50 AM
> > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ever seen the commercials where the guy has the devil on one
> > > >shoulder
> > > > > >and
> > > > > >an angel on the other. Guess which one Weaver would be?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> >Fred
> > > > > > > Weaver
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:13 PM
> > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > ><Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Makes no difference...... Power is required....
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:23 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > For me this airplane will mostly be used for recreation.
> >Cross
> > > > > >country
> > > > > > > would be secondary.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf
> Of
> >Luc
> > > >H.
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:00 AM
> > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Luc H."
> ><4luc@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 100 hp is great if your building a Cub or other airplane
> with
> >a
> > > > > single
> > > > > > > digit
> > > > > > > > wing loading.
> > > > > > > > Luc
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:11 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I looking to put a Lycoming on my plane. Something around
> 100
> >hp.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > want to go broke doing it. Help.
> > > > > > > >
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Just got some Epibond primer from Wicks. Seems like I may need to reduce it but
the reducer is not available and they won't tell me an alternate.
Any recommendations?
Can't return the Epibond because its a hazardous material!
Paul
pholmes@wmis.net
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| Subject: | Re: Ribs Complete |
CJ.... The picture size is great and the resolution is flawless......
Weav
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Ribs Complete
Yes, I'm sure. The photo I sent is deceptive. It does not show any of the full
size main ribs. The rib in question is the one of the wing tip ribs. There is
a smaller rib, that is not shown in the pic. It will be built when we fit the
ribs to the spars, and finish the wood wing tips. I have attached a picture
of all of the completed ribs except for the rib at the tip of the wing.
If the photo file is to large please let me know. If it is ok then I will use
this resolution to send photos to the group.
CJ Kirby
memphistailwind@bellsouth.net
N540CJ
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| Subject: | Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
Well, WX permitting, I would say the 9th or 10th, or maybe the 16th or 17th.
We were planning a 3 day weekend up north on Oct. 1st.
I would really like to see the projects you have down there, and I am sure
there are several others that would too.
Thanks for volunteering this too.
Steve -in Michigan
>From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
>Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:41:51 -0400
>
>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
>
>Steve KUYF is 6 miles if you don't want to chance it. When is a good time
>for everyone? Some Saturday in Oct.?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:59 AM
> > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> >
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Malcolm, I think that would be great, just give me notice as to when and
> > we
> > will make plans.
> >
> > I will have to practice up on my short field TO & landings. :)
> >
> > Steve -in Michigan
> >
> >
> > >From: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:27:01 -0400
> > >
> > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > >
> > >I am sure we could have one at KUYF, which is 6 miles from my strip or
>if
> > >everyone wants to try my 1850 ft strip. We can have it at my place any
> > >weekend. I have 3 Tailwinds under construction.
> > >
> > >Malcolm
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:36 AM
> > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > ><usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > Malcolm, we really wanted to be there, but we left on the 4th to
>spend
> > 9
> > > > days at the cottage and did not know the gathering was for the
> > following
> > > > weekend. We would have flown over if we would have known. Maybe we
> > >should
> > > > have one down in Ohio somewhere.
> > > >
> > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:38:58 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
>Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > > >
> > > > >Steve we did not see you Saturday at Plainwell. Sorry we missed
>you.
> > > > >
> > > > >Malcolm
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:07 PM
> > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wow Weav! Why don't you tell us what you really think? :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve -in Michigan, plowing skies in a Cherokee for now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > >Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:52:05 -0700
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Hey MIKE!!! Try for just a moment to learn something from
> > others
> > >that
> > > > > > >have
> > > > > > >been there......
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >First of all.... There is no substitute for Horsepower AND
> > > > >Altitude....
> > > > > > >From Aviator 1.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Next.. How many times do you want to buy an engine? You
>already
> >
> > >did
> > > > >it
> > > > > > >once (Buick) and now you are thinking about saving money by
>only
> > >going
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > >100 HP?? Let's see, that will be about $5,000 - $10,000.....
> >
> > >and
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > >you will fly it....."Recreationally"?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Then after you fly off your 40 hours or so, you might take your
> > >wife
> > >or
> > > > > > >daughter or son OR like Magaw did, Took his mom for a ride.
>Then
> > >you
> > > > > > decide
> > > > > > >to go somewhere and take a picnic lunch with you along with
>some
> > > > > > Pepsi's..
> > > > > > >Have to have some weight for this example... Oh boy, you're
> > both
> > > > > > excited
> > > > > > >to be flying somewhere for a picnic.. You have discovered a
>neat
> > > > >little
> > > > > > >place where you can land and there is a small river nearby
>where
> > >you
> > > > >both
> > > > > > >can go swimming too.. Man, this is getting fun, all this
> > > > >"Recreational"
> > > > > > >flying eh? So, you hop in your 100 HP Tailwind and head for the
> > > > >hills...
> > > > > > >You land and enjoy your time..... NOW, it's time to come home.
> > >It's
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > >2:30 pm and damn it's hot.... but soon, you guys will be up
> > high
> > >in
> > > > >the
> > > > > > >nice cool air flying home, right? Wrong,.... First you have
>to
> > > > > > >successfully takeoff in the DENSITY ALTITUDE from where you
>are.
> >
> > >But
> > > > > > hey,
> > > > > > >you know your plane, it will be no problem....... You take off
> > all
> > >the
> > > > > > time
> > > > > > >to go flying. So you line er up and jam the throttle in to the
> > > > >stops....
> > > > > > >Away you go......sorta....as you roll, you lean it just a tad
>for
> > >more
> > > > > > >power...and you go and go and go and you aren't really
>setting
> > >the
> > > > > > world
> > > > > > >on fire with your accelleration. Your ass starts to pucker some
> > as
> > >you
> > > > > > >barely lift off before having to abort. Now the damn trees are
> > >getting
> > > > > > real
> > > > > > >close too and your rate of climb stinks in the heat of the day.
> > >Whew!!!
> > > > > > >you
> > > > > > >just made it over the tree's and around the big rock on the
>left.
> >
> > >It
> > > > >is
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > >this moment that you will remember all these "devilish" emails
> > >about
> > > > > > >putting
> > > > > > >the right engine on in the first place. Of course, then you
>have
> >
> > >to
> > >go
> > > > > > >home
> > > > > > >and explain to your wife how you need to spend a bunch more
>money
> >
> > >now
> > > > >for
> > > > > > >another engine. But first you have to buy her a bunch of new
> > >furniture
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > >the house so she won't be so pissed off about it.. Of course,
> > you
> > >tell
> > > > > > her
> > > > > > >it's not that big a deal, you can sell the engine you had in
>the
> > >first
> > > > > > >place. Gee, how much is that Buick worth??? even with ALL the
> > cool
> > > > > > >accesories you bought for it??? And then, wow oh wow, now you
> > have
> > >a
> > > > > > 0-200
> > > > > > >or an 0-235 for sale too. Gotta find someone that really needs
> > one
> > >of
> > > > > > those
> > > > > > >so you can crate it up and ship it somewhere Kinda like Bob
> > > > > > Connors....
> > > > > > >( I couldn't resist) sorry Bob.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Just how much time and money do you have that you want to
>waste?
> > >Just
> > > > > > >imagine for a moment, that you could have purchased a nice
>0-320
> > in
> > >the
> > > > > > >first place, just like Eric did...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Weav
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >PS. Hahahahhahaha..... I know, I know..... hahahhaha..
> > I'm
> > >a
> > > > >bad,
> > > > > > >bad boy...and a probably not a good role model either. But
>at
> > >times,
> > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > >like that cute little angel.......trying to save your bacon.
> > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:50 AM
> > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ever seen the commercials where the guy has the devil on one
> > > > >shoulder
> > > > > > >and
> > > > > > >an angel on the other. Guess which one Weaver would be?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf
>Of
> > >Fred
> > > > > > > > Weaver
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:13 PM
> > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > > ><Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Makes no difference...... Power is required....
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:23 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > For me this airplane will mostly be used for recreation.
> > >Cross
> > > > > > >country
> > > > > > > > would be secondary.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf
> > Of
> > >Luc
> > > > >H.
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:00 AM
> > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Luc H."
> > ><4luc@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 100 hp is great if your building a Cub or other airplane
> > with
> > >a
> > > > > > single
> > > > > > > > digit
> > > > > > > > > wing loading.
> > > > > > > > > Luc
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:11 AM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I looking to put a Lycoming on my plane. Something around
> > 100
> > >hp.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > want to go broke doing it. Help.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Mike NW Illinois
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Paul try: http://www.nfgsales.com/epibond1595.htm
Jerry
On Thursday, September 16, 2004, at 09:00 AM, Paul Holmes wrote:
> Just got some Epibond primer from Wicks. Seems like I may need to
> reduce it but the reducer is not available and they won't=A0tell me=A0an
> alternate.
> Any recommendations?
> Can't return the Epibond because its a hazardous material!
> Paul
> pholmes@wmis.net
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Paul, did you get the catalyst with it? If you did, Dupont 3602 lacquer thinner
will work. If you are painting tubing, spray without thinning. Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Holmes
To: Tailwind-list
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 9:00 AM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Epibond
Just got some Epibond primer from Wicks. Seems like I may need to reduce it but
the reducer is not available and they won't tell me an alternate.
Any recommendations?
Can't return the Epibond because its a hazardous material!
Paul
pholmes@wmis.net
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Wally, Ray and Jim C.,
Thanks for the input from the voices of experience. All useful info.
Paul
pholmes@wmis.net
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: mlinda@wt.net
Aircraft Spruce carries Epibond reducer about $10.00 a qt. use at 50/50. It is
called Rand E-500 for use with W2248 Epibond primer. Ralph
Quoting Paul Holmes <pholmes@wmis.net>:
> Just got some Epibond primer from Wicks. Seems like I may need to reduce it
> but the reducer is not available and they won't tell me an alternate.
> Any recommendations?
> Can't return the Epibond because its a hazardous material!
> Paul
> pholmes@wmis.net
>
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Paul; If the epibond is a two part Amine cure, I have used laquer thinner,
works great and costs about $7.00 a gallon at the lumber Co. JohnD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Holmes
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:00 AM
To: Tailwind-list
Subject: Tailwind-List: Epibond
Just got some Epibond primer from Wicks. Seems like I may need to reduce
it but the reducer is not available and they won't tell me an alternate.
Any recommendations?
Can't return the Epibond because its a hazardous material!
Paul
pholmes@wmis.net
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I've always thinned Epibond with lacquer thinner. Dave
On Thursday, September 16, 2004, at 04:29 PM, Paul Holmes wrote:
> Wally, Ray and Jim C.,
> Thanks for the input from the voices of experience. All useful info.
> Paul
> pholmes@wmis.net
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Hey guys,
I just received an illustration of my Tailwind from one of our sponsors. I would
like to post it, but it is a 2mb file. If anyone wants to see it email me. If
the group wants to see it, the guys with fast planes and slow internet connections
will just have to be sore.
CJ Kirby
memphistailwind@bellsouth.net
N540CJ
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CJ,
You could upload it to the files section and people who wish could download
it.
-Danny
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of CJ Kirby
Memphis Tailwind
Subject: Tailwind-List: N540CJ
Hey guys,
I just received an illustration of my Tailwind from one of our sponsors. I
would like to post it, but it is a 2mb file. If anyone wants to see it email
me. If the group wants to see it, the guys with fast planes and slow
internet connections will just have to be sore.
CJ Kirby
memphistailwind@bellsouth.net
N540CJ
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