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1. 03:40 AM - Re: N540CJ (Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com)
2. 04:36 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com)
3. 05:45 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Stephen Doughty)
4. 06:43 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Rich Ellis)
5. 07:04 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Dennis Flamini)
6. 07:13 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com)
7. 07:21 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com)
8. 07:28 AM - Re: N540CJ (DaveM)
9. 07:59 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Fred Weaver)
10. 08:06 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Fred Weaver)
11. 08:17 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com)
12. 08:29 AM - Re: N540CJ (Fred Weaver)
13. 08:31 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Dennis Flamini)
14. 08:50 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com)
15. 09:14 AM - Malcolm's place (Fred Weaver)
16. 09:43 AM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Stephen Doughty)
17. 10:32 AM - 2001 Fly-In (Louis Owen)
18. 03:04 PM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Eric Schlanser)
19. 04:01 PM - The Tuttercup (Joe Maj)
20. 05:15 PM - Re: The Tuttercup (Earl Luce)
21. 05:33 PM - $$$seats $$$ (Earl Luce)
22. 05:59 PM - Re: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind (Bruce E. Butts)
23. 06:00 PM - Re: The Tuttercup (Joe Maj)
24. 06:07 PM - Re: $$$seats $$$ (IslPilot@aol.com)
25. 06:39 PM - Re: The Tuttercup (Dennis Flamini)
26. 06:39 PM - Ohio Weekend (John Downing)
27. 06:44 PM - Re: $$$seats $$$ (John Downing)
28. 07:34 PM - twheel and control rod (Dan)
29. 10:29 PM - Re: The Tuttercup (Larry H)
30. 10:39 PM - Re: The Tuttercup (Keith Imel)
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
Danny, have you tried the new trim springs and the steering rod?
Malcolm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan [SMTP:dannyjoe@insightbb.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 12:50 AM
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: N540CJ
>
> CJ,
>
> You could upload it to the files section and people who wish could
> download it.
>
> -Danny
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of CJ Kirby
> Memphis Tailwind
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 11:39 PM
> To: Tailwind List
> Subject: Tailwind-List: N540CJ
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I just received an illustration of my Tailwind from one of our sponsors. I
> would like to post it, but it is a 2mb file. If anyone wants to see it
> email me. If the group wants to see it, the guys with fast planes and slow
> internet connections will just have to be sore.
>
> CJ Kirby
> memphistailwind@bellsouth.net <mailto:memphistailwind@bellsouth.net>
> N540CJ
>
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
Steve, 9th or the 16th which ever is best for everybody. The GPS cord. for
my place N 39 55.067, W 083 34.237. For those that can't land on my strip
KUFY is 6 miles and I will provide shuttle service. I will fire up the gas
grill and we can have hamburgers and hot dogs for lunch. Just let me know
what day works best.
Malcolm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:09 AM
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
>
> Well, WX permitting, I would say the 9th or 10th, or maybe the 16th or
> 17th.
> We were planning a 3 day weekend up north on Oct. 1st.
>
> I would really like to see the projects you have down there, and I am sure
>
> there are several others that would too.
>
> Thanks for volunteering this too.
>
> Steve -in Michigan
>
> >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:41:51 -0400
> >
> >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> >
> >Steve KUYF is 6 miles if you don't want to chance it. When is a good time
> >for everyone? Some Saturday in Oct.?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:59 AM
> > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > >
> > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > >
> > > Malcolm, I think that would be great, just give me notice as to when
> and
> > > we
> > > will make plans.
> > >
> > > I will have to practice up on my short field TO & landings. :)
> > >
> > > Steve -in Michigan
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:27:01 -0400
> > > >
> > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace"
> <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > >
> > > >I am sure we could have one at KUYF, which is 6 miles from my strip
> or
> >if
> > > >everyone wants to try my 1850 ft strip. We can have it at my place
> any
> > > >weekend. I have 3 Tailwinds under construction.
> > > >
> > > >Malcolm
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:36 AM
> > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > ><usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Malcolm, we really wanted to be there, but we left on the 4th to
> >spend
> > > 9
> > > > > days at the cottage and did not know the gathering was for the
> > > following
> > > > > weekend. We would have flown over if we would have known. Maybe
> we
> > > >should
> > > > > have one down in Ohio somewhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:38:58 -0400
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> >Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Steve we did not see you Saturday at Plainwell. Sorry we missed
> >you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Malcolm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:07 PM
> > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wow Weav! Why don't you tell us what you really think? :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan, plowing skies in a Cherokee for now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > >Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:52:05 -0700
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > > > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Hey MIKE!!! Try for just a moment to learn something from
> > > others
> > > >that
> > > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > >been there......
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >First of all.... There is no substitute for Horsepower AND
> > > > > >Altitude....
> > > > > > > >From Aviator 1.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Next.. How many times do you want to buy an engine? You
> >already
> > >
> > > >did
> > > > > >it
> > > > > > > >once (Buick) and now you are thinking about saving money by
> >only
> > > >going
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > >100 HP?? Let's see, that will be about $5,000 - $10,000.....
> > >
> > > >and
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > >you will fly it....."Recreationally"?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Then after you fly off your 40 hours or so, you might take
> your
> > > >wife
> > > >or
> > > > > > > >daughter or son OR like Magaw did, Took his mom for a ride.
> >Then
> > > >you
> > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > >to go somewhere and take a picnic lunch with you along with
> >some
> > > > > > > Pepsi's..
> > > > > > > >Have to have some weight for this example... Oh boy, you're
> > > both
> > > > > > > excited
> > > > > > > >to be flying somewhere for a picnic.. You have discovered a
> >neat
> > > > > >little
> > > > > > > >place where you can land and there is a small river nearby
> >where
> > > >you
> > > > > >both
> > > > > > > >can go swimming too.. Man, this is getting fun, all this
> > > > > >"Recreational"
> > > > > > > >flying eh? So, you hop in your 100 HP Tailwind and head for
> the
> > > > > >hills...
> > > > > > > >You land and enjoy your time..... NOW, it's time to come
> home.
> > > >It's
> > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > >2:30 pm and damn it's hot.... but soon, you guys will be up
> > > high
> > > >in
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > > >nice cool air flying home, right? Wrong,.... First you have
>
> >to
> > > > > > > >successfully takeoff in the DENSITY ALTITUDE from where you
> >are.
> > >
> > > >But
> > > > > > > hey,
> > > > > > > >you know your plane, it will be no problem....... You take
> off
> > > all
> > > >the
> > > > > > > time
> > > > > > > >to go flying. So you line er up and jam the throttle in to
> the
> > > > > >stops....
> > > > > > > >Away you go......sorta....as you roll, you lean it just a tad
>
> >for
> > > >more
> > > > > > > >power...and you go and go and go and you aren't really
> >setting
> > > >the
> > > > > > > world
> > > > > > > >on fire with your accelleration. Your ass starts to pucker
> some
> > > as
> > > >you
> > > > > > > >barely lift off before having to abort. Now the damn trees
> are
> > > >getting
> > > > > > > real
> > > > > > > >close too and your rate of climb stinks in the heat of the
> day.
> > > >Whew!!!
> > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > >just made it over the tree's and around the big rock on the
> >left.
> > >
> > > >It
> > > > > >is
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > >this moment that you will remember all these "devilish"
> emails
> > > >about
> > > > > > > >putting
> > > > > > > >the right engine on in the first place. Of course, then you
> >have
> > >
> > > >to
> > > >go
> > > > > > > >home
> > > > > > > >and explain to your wife how you need to spend a bunch more
> >money
> > >
> > > >now
> > > > > >for
> > > > > > > >another engine. But first you have to buy her a bunch of new
> > > >furniture
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > >the house so she won't be so pissed off about it.. Of
> course,
> > > you
> > > >tell
> > > > > > > her
> > > > > > > >it's not that big a deal, you can sell the engine you had in
> >the
> > > >first
> > > > > > > >place. Gee, how much is that Buick worth??? even with ALL
> the
> > > cool
> > > > > > > >accesories you bought for it??? And then, wow oh wow, now
> you
> > > have
> > > >a
> > > > > > > 0-200
> > > > > > > >or an 0-235 for sale too. Gotta find someone that really
> needs
> > > one
> > > >of
> > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > >so you can crate it up and ship it somewhere Kinda like
> Bob
> > > > > > > Connors....
> > > > > > > >( I couldn't resist) sorry Bob.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Just how much time and money do you have that you want to
> >waste?
> > > >Just
> > > > > > > >imagine for a moment, that you could have purchased a nice
> >0-320
> > > in
> > > >the
> > > > > > > >first place, just like Eric did...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Weav
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >PS. Hahahahhahaha..... I know, I know..... hahahhaha..
> > > I'm
> > > >a
> > > > > >bad,
> > > > > > > >bad boy...and a probably not a good role model either. But
>
> >at
> > > >times,
> > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > >like that cute little angel.......trying to save your bacon.
> > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:50 AM
> > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ever seen the commercials where the guy has the devil on
> one
> > > > > >shoulder
> > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > >an angel on the other. Guess which one Weaver would be?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf
>
> >Of
> > > >Fred
> > > > > > > > > Weaver
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:13 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > > > ><Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Makes no difference...... Power is required....
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:23 AM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > For me this airplane will mostly be used for recreation.
> > > >Cross
> > > > > > > >country
> > > > > > > > > would be secondary.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On
> Behalf
> > > Of
> > > >Luc
> > > > > >H.
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:00 AM
> > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Luc H."
> > > ><4luc@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 100 hp is great if your building a Cub or other airplane
> > > with
> > > >a
> > > > > > > single
> > > > > > > > > digit
> > > > > > > > > > wing loading.
> > > > > > > > > > Luc
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:11 AM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I looking to put a Lycoming on my plane. Something
> around
> > > 100
> > > >hp.
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > want to go broke doing it. Help.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Mike NW Illinois
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
The 9th would be good for us, and if the wx stinks, the 16th would be a good
back up.
Anybody else have input? Eric? JohnD? Paul? Brian? Jerry? Dennis?
Anybody........ Weav??? :)
Steve
>From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
>Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:25:09 -0400
>
>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
>
>Steve, 9th or the 16th which ever is best for everybody. The GPS cord. for
>my place N 39 55.067, W 083 34.237. For those that can't land on my strip
>KUFY is 6 miles and I will provide shuttle service. I will fire up the gas
>grill and we can have hamburgers and hot dogs for lunch. Just let me know
>what day works best.
>
>Malcolm
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:09 AM
> > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> >
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Well, WX permitting, I would say the 9th or 10th, or maybe the 16th or
> > 17th.
> > We were planning a 3 day weekend up north on Oct. 1st.
> >
> > I would really like to see the projects you have down there, and I am
>sure
> >
> > there are several others that would too.
> >
> > Thanks for volunteering this too.
> >
> > Steve -in Michigan
> >
> > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:41:51 -0400
> > >
> > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > >
> > >Steve KUYF is 6 miles if you don't want to chance it. When is a good
>time
> > >for everyone? Some Saturday in Oct.?
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:59 AM
> > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > >
> > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > Malcolm, I think that would be great, just give me notice as to when
> > and
> > > > we
> > > > will make plans.
> > > >
> > > > I will have to practice up on my short field TO & landings. :)
> > > >
> > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:27:01 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace"
> > <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > > >
> > > > >I am sure we could have one at KUYF, which is 6 miles from my strip
> > or
> > >if
> > > > >everyone wants to try my 1850 ft strip. We can have it at my place
> > any
> > > > >weekend. I have 3 Tailwinds under construction.
> > > > >
> > > > >Malcolm
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:36 AM
> > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > ><usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Malcolm, we really wanted to be there, but we left on the 4th to
> > >spend
> > > > 9
> > > > > > days at the cottage and did not know the gathering was for the
> > > > following
> > > > > > weekend. We would have flown over if we would have known.
>Maybe
> > we
> > > > >should
> > > > > > have one down in Ohio somewhere.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:38:58 -0400
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > >Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Steve we did not see you Saturday at Plainwell. Sorry we missed
> > >you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Malcolm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:07 PM
> > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Wow Weav! Why don't you tell us what you really think? :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan, plowing skies in a Cherokee for now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > >Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:52:05 -0700
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > > > > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Hey MIKE!!! Try for just a moment to learn something from
> > > > others
> > > > >that
> > > > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > > >been there......
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >First of all.... There is no substitute for Horsepower
>AND
> > > > > > >Altitude....
> > > > > > > > >From Aviator 1.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Next.. How many times do you want to buy an engine? You
> > >already
> > > >
> > > > >did
> > > > > > >it
> > > > > > > > >once (Buick) and now you are thinking about saving money by
> > >only
> > > > >going
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >100 HP?? Let's see, that will be about $5,000 -
>$10,000.....
> > > >
> > > > >and
> > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > >you will fly it....."Recreationally"?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Then after you fly off your 40 hours or so, you might take
> > your
> > > > >wife
> > > > >or
> > > > > > > > >daughter or son OR like Magaw did, Took his mom for a ride.
> > >Then
> > > > >you
> > > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > > >to go somewhere and take a picnic lunch with you along with
> > >some
> > > > > > > > Pepsi's..
> > > > > > > > >Have to have some weight for this example... Oh boy,
>you're
> > > > both
> > > > > > > > excited
> > > > > > > > >to be flying somewhere for a picnic.. You have discovered
>a
> > >neat
> > > > > > >little
> > > > > > > > >place where you can land and there is a small river nearby
> > >where
> > > > >you
> > > > > > >both
> > > > > > > > >can go swimming too.. Man, this is getting fun, all this
> > > > > > >"Recreational"
> > > > > > > > >flying eh? So, you hop in your 100 HP Tailwind and head for
> > the
> > > > > > >hills...
> > > > > > > > >You land and enjoy your time..... NOW, it's time to come
> > home.
> > > > >It's
> > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > >2:30 pm and damn it's hot.... but soon, you guys will be
>up
> > > > high
> > > > >in
> > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > >nice cool air flying home, right? Wrong,.... First you
>have
> >
> > >to
> > > > > > > > >successfully takeoff in the DENSITY ALTITUDE from where you
> > >are.
> > > >
> > > > >But
> > > > > > > > hey,
> > > > > > > > >you know your plane, it will be no problem....... You take
> > off
> > > > all
> > > > >the
> > > > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > >to go flying. So you line er up and jam the throttle in to
> > the
> > > > > > >stops....
> > > > > > > > >Away you go......sorta....as you roll, you lean it just a
>tad
> >
> > >for
> > > > >more
> > > > > > > > >power...and you go and go and go and you aren't really
> > >setting
> > > > >the
> > > > > > > > world
> > > > > > > > >on fire with your accelleration. Your ass starts to pucker
> > some
> > > > as
> > > > >you
> > > > > > > > >barely lift off before having to abort. Now the damn trees
> > are
> > > > >getting
> > > > > > > > real
> > > > > > > > >close too and your rate of climb stinks in the heat of the
> > day.
> > > > >Whew!!!
> > > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > >just made it over the tree's and around the big rock on the
> > >left.
> > > >
> > > > >It
> > > > > > >is
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > >this moment that you will remember all these "devilish"
> > emails
> > > > >about
> > > > > > > > >putting
> > > > > > > > >the right engine on in the first place. Of course, then
>you
> > >have
> > > >
> > > > >to
> > > > >go
> > > > > > > > >home
> > > > > > > > >and explain to your wife how you need to spend a bunch more
> > >money
> > > >
> > > > >now
> > > > > > >for
> > > > > > > > >another engine. But first you have to buy her a bunch of
>new
> > > > >furniture
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > >the house so she won't be so pissed off about it.. Of
> > course,
> > > > you
> > > > >tell
> > > > > > > > her
> > > > > > > > >it's not that big a deal, you can sell the engine you had
>in
> > >the
> > > > >first
> > > > > > > > >place. Gee, how much is that Buick worth??? even with ALL
> > the
> > > > cool
> > > > > > > > >accesories you bought for it??? And then, wow oh wow, now
> > you
> > > > have
> > > > >a
> > > > > > > > 0-200
> > > > > > > > >or an 0-235 for sale too. Gotta find someone that really
> > needs
> > > > one
> > > > >of
> > > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > >so you can crate it up and ship it somewhere Kinda like
> > Bob
> > > > > > > > Connors....
> > > > > > > > >( I couldn't resist) sorry Bob.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Just how much time and money do you have that you want to
> > >waste?
> > > > >Just
> > > > > > > > >imagine for a moment, that you could have purchased a nice
> > >0-320
> > > > in
> > > > >the
> > > > > > > > >first place, just like Eric did...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Weav
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >PS. Hahahahhahaha..... I know, I know.....
>hahahhaha..
> > > > I'm
> > > > >a
> > > > > > >bad,
> > > > > > > > >bad boy...and a probably not a good role model either.
>But
> >
> > >at
> > > > >times,
> > > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > >like that cute little angel.......trying to save your
>bacon.
> > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > >From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:50 AM
> > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Ever seen the commercials where the guy has the devil on
> > one
> > > > > > >shoulder
> > > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > >an angel on the other. Guess which one Weaver would be?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On
>Behalf
> >
> > >Of
> > > > >Fred
> > > > > > > > > > Weaver
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:13 PM
> > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > > > > ><Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Makes no difference...... Power is required....
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:23 AM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > For me this airplane will mostly be used for
>recreation.
> > > > >Cross
> > > > > > > > >country
> > > > > > > > > > would be secondary.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On
> > Behalf
> > > > Of
> > > > >Luc
> > > > > > >H.
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:00 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Luc H."
> > > > ><4luc@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 100 hp is great if your building a Cub or other
>airplane
> > > > with
> > > > >a
> > > > > > > > single
> > > > > > > > > > digit
> > > > > > > > > > > wing loading.
> > > > > > > > > > > Luc
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:11 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I looking to put a Lycoming on my plane. Something
> > around
> > > > 100
> > > > >hp.
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > want to go broke doing it. Help.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Mike NW Illinois
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Rich Ellis <rjrellis@yahoo.com>
Malcolm ... Can you tell us a little about the 3
Tailwind under construction at your place:
1. Stage of construction;
2. Standard W-10s or new modifications;
3. Wood vs. Metal wings;
4. Engine selections;
5. Nosedragger vs. taildraggers.
Appreciate your sharing your projects with us. Rich
--- Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com wrote:
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
>
> Steve, 9th or the 16th which ever is best for
> everybody. The GPS cord. for
> my place N 39 55.067, W 083 34.237. For those that
> can't land on my strip
> KUFY is 6 miles and I will provide shuttle service.
> I will fire up the gas
> grill and we can have hamburgers and hot dogs for
> lunch. Just let me know
> what day works best.
>
> Malcolm
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Doughty
> [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:09 AM
> > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
> Tailwind
> >
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen
> Doughty"
> > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Well, WX permitting, I would say the 9th or 10th,
> or maybe the 16th or
> > 17th.
> > We were planning a 3 day weekend up north on
> Oct. 1st.
> >
> > I would really like to see the projects you have
> down there, and I am sure
> >
> > there are several others that would too.
> >
> > Thanks for volunteering this too.
> >
> > Steve -in Michigan
> >
> > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for
> a Tailwind
> > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:41:51 -0400
> > >
> > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > >
> > >Steve KUYF is 6 miles if you don't want to chance
> it. When is a good time
> > >for everyone? Some Saturday in Oct.?
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Stephen Doughty
> [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:59 AM
> > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine
> for a Tailwind
> > > >
> > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen
> Doughty"
> > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > Malcolm, I think that would be great, just
> give me notice as to when
> > and
> > > > we
> > > > will make plans.
> > > >
> > > > I will have to practice up on my short field
> TO & landings. :)
> > > >
> > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine
> for a Tailwind
> > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:27:01 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> "Lovelace"
> > <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > > >
> > > > >I am sure we could have one at KUYF, which is
> 6 miles from my strip
> > or
> > >if
> > > > >everyone wants to try my 1850 ft strip. We
> can have it at my place
> > any
> > > > >weekend. I have 3 Tailwinds under
> construction.
> > > > >
> > > > >Malcolm
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Stephen Doughty"
> <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:36 AM
> > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine
> for a Tailwind
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > ><usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Malcolm, we really wanted to be there, but
> we left on the 4th to
> > >spend
> > > > 9
> > > > > > days at the cottage and did not know the
> gathering was for the
> > > > following
> > > > > > weekend. We would have flown over if we
> would have known. Maybe
> > we
> > > > >should
> > > > > > have one down in Ohio somewhere.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant
> Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:38:58 -0400
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > >Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Steve we did not see you Saturday at
> Plainwell. Sorry we missed
> > >you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Malcolm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Stephen Doughty
> [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:07
> PM
> > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant
> Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Wow Weav! Why don't you tell us what
> you really think? :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan, plowing skies in a
> Cherokee for now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >From: "Fred Weaver"
> <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > >Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant
> Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:52:05 -0700
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > > > > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Hey MIKE!!! Try for just a moment
> to learn something from
> > > > others
> > > > >that
> > > > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > > >been there......
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >First of all.... There is no
> substitute for Horsepower AND
> > > > > > >Altitude....
> > > > > > > > >From Aviator 1.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Next.. How many times do you want to
> buy an engine? You
> > >already
> > > >
> > > > >did
> > > > > > >it
> > > > > > > > >once (Buick) and now you are thinking
> about saving money by
> > >only
> > > > >going
>
=== message truncated ===
=====
Richard L. Ellis, M.D.
Gundersen Lutheran Health System
Co-Director
Norma J. Vinger Center for Breast Care
1900 South Avenue
La Crosse, WI 54601
800.362.9567, ext. 52102
rjrellis@yahoo.com
__________________________________
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Dennis Flamini" <flamini2@comcast.net>
9th or 16th Oct is ok with me, checked flight planner, 1:11 from Chicago to
Malcolm's.
Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
<usaviator1@hotmail.com>
>
> The 9th would be good for us, and if the wx stinks, the 16th would be a
good
> back up.
>
> Anybody else have input? Eric? JohnD? Paul? Brian? Jerry? Dennis?
> Anybody........ Weav??? :)
>
> Steve
>
>
> >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:25:09 -0400
> >
> >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> >
> >Steve, 9th or the 16th which ever is best for everybody. The GPS cord.
for
> >my place N 39 55.067, W 083 34.237. For those that can't land on my strip
> >KUFY is 6 miles and I will provide shuttle service. I will fire up the
gas
> >grill and we can have hamburgers and hot dogs for lunch. Just let me know
> >what day works best.
> >
> >Malcolm
> >
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
I'm building 3 W-10 taildragger fuselages with Clement mods, wood wings.
The 3 are done through basic fuselage. 2 of them are for friends, they will
build the wings and finish. On the first one I am working on the doors, then
sheet metal next then it's out the door. The 3rd. one is mine, it will have
an O-320 and all the things correct that I did not like on the first one.
Hope I can out run Fred with this one and maybe keep up with Jim C's new
one.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Ellis [SMTP:rjrellis@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:43 AM
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Rich Ellis <rjrellis@yahoo.com>
>
> Malcolm ... Can you tell us a little about the 3
> Tailwind under construction at your place:
>
> 1. Stage of construction;
> 2. Standard W-10s or new modifications;
> 3. Wood vs. Metal wings;
> 4. Engine selections;
> 5. Nosedragger vs. taildraggers.
>
> Appreciate your sharing your projects with us. Rich
>
>
> --- Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com wrote:
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> >
> > Steve, 9th or the 16th which ever is best for
> > everybody. The GPS cord. for
> > my place N 39 55.067, W 083 34.237. For those that
> > can't land on my strip
> > KUFY is 6 miles and I will provide shuttle service.
> > I will fire up the gas
> > grill and we can have hamburgers and hot dogs for
> > lunch. Just let me know
> > what day works best.
> >
> > Malcolm
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stephen Doughty
> > [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:09 AM
> > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
> > Tailwind
> > >
> > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen
> > Doughty"
> > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > >
> > > Well, WX permitting, I would say the 9th or 10th,
> > or maybe the 16th or
> > > 17th.
> > > We were planning a 3 day weekend up north on
> > Oct. 1st.
> > >
> > > I would really like to see the projects you have
> > down there, and I am sure
> > >
> > > there are several others that would too.
> > >
> > > Thanks for volunteering this too.
> > >
> > > Steve -in Michigan
> > >
> > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for
> > a Tailwind
> > > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:41:51 -0400
> > > >
> > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > >
> > > >Steve KUYF is 6 miles if you don't want to chance
> > it. When is a good time
> > > >for everyone? Some Saturday in Oct.?
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Stephen Doughty
> > [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:59 AM
> > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine
> > for a Tailwind
> > > > >
> > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen
> > Doughty"
> > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Malcolm, I think that would be great, just
> > give me notice as to when
> > > and
> > > > > we
> > > > > will make plans.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will have to practice up on my short field
> > TO & landings. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine
> > for a Tailwind
> > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:27:01 -0400
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > "Lovelace"
> > > <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I am sure we could have one at KUYF, which is
> > 6 miles from my strip
> > > or
> > > >if
> > > > > >everyone wants to try my 1850 ft strip. We
> > can have it at my place
> > > any
> > > > > >weekend. I have 3 Tailwinds under
> > construction.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Malcolm
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Stephen Doughty"
> > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:36 AM
> > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine
> > for a Tailwind
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > ><usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Malcolm, we really wanted to be there, but
> > we left on the 4th to
> > > >spend
> > > > > 9
> > > > > > > days at the cottage and did not know the
> > gathering was for the
> > > > > following
> > > > > > > weekend. We would have flown over if we
> > would have known. Maybe
> > > we
> > > > > >should
> > > > > > > have one down in Ohio somewhere.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant
> > Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:38:58 -0400
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > > >Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Steve we did not see you Saturday at
> > Plainwell. Sorry we missed
> > > >you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Malcolm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Stephen Doughty
> > [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:07
> > PM
> > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant
> > Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Wow Weav! Why don't you tell us what
> > you really think? :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan, plowing skies in a
> > Cherokee for now.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >From: "Fred Weaver"
> > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > >Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant
> > Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:52:05 -0700
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > > > > > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Hey MIKE!!! Try for just a moment
> > to learn something from
> > > > > others
> > > > > >that
> > > > > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > > > >been there......
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >First of all.... There is no
> > substitute for Horsepower AND
> > > > > > > >Altitude....
> > > > > > > > > >From Aviator 1.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Next.. How many times do you want to
> > buy an engine? You
> > > >already
> > > > >
> > > > > >did
> > > > > > > >it
> > > > > > > > > >once (Buick) and now you are thinking
> > about saving money by
> > > >only
> > > > > >going
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>
> =====
> Richard L. Ellis, M.D.
> Gundersen Lutheran Health System
> Co-Director
> Norma J. Vinger Center for Breast Care
> 1900 South Avenue
> La Crosse, WI 54601
> 800.362.9567, ext. 52102
> rjrellis@yahoo.com
>
>
>
> __________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
Dennis we will plan on the 9th and the 16th as the rain date.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Flamini [SMTP:flamini2@comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:02 AM
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Dennis Flamini"
> <flamini2@comcast.net>
>
> 9th or 16th Oct is ok with me, checked flight planner, 1:11 from Chicago
> to
> Malcolm's.
> Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:44 AM
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> >
> > The 9th would be good for us, and if the wx stinks, the 16th would be a
> good
> > back up.
> >
> > Anybody else have input? Eric? JohnD? Paul? Brian? Jerry? Dennis?
> > Anybody........ Weav??? :)
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:25:09 -0400
> > >
> > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > >
> > >Steve, 9th or the 16th which ever is best for everybody. The GPS cord.
> for
> > >my place N 39 55.067, W 083 34.237. For those that can't land on my
> strip
> > >KUFY is 6 miles and I will provide shuttle service. I will fire up the
> gas
> > >grill and we can have hamburgers and hot dogs for lunch. Just let me
> know
> > >what day works best.
> > >
> > >Malcolm
> > >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I would like to see it (but I have fast connections for my computers)
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind
To: Tailwind List
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 9:38 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: N540CJ
Hey guys,
I just received an illustration of my Tailwind from one of our sponsors. I would
like to post it, but it is a 2mb file. If anyone wants to see it email me.
If the group wants to see it, the guys with fast planes and slow internet connections
will just have to be sore.
CJ Kirby
memphistailwind@bellsouth.net
N540CJ
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
The hamburgers and hot dogs sound good to me!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
<usaviator1@hotmail.com>
>
> The 9th would be good for us, and if the wx stinks, the 16th would be a
good
> back up.
>
> Anybody else have input? Eric? JohnD? Paul? Brian? Jerry? Dennis?
> Anybody........ Weav??? :)
>
> Steve
>
>
> >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:25:09 -0400
> >
> >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> >
> >Steve, 9th or the 16th which ever is best for everybody. The GPS cord.
for
> >my place N 39 55.067, W 083 34.237. For those that can't land on my strip
> >KUFY is 6 miles and I will provide shuttle service. I will fire up the
gas
> >grill and we can have hamburgers and hot dogs for lunch. Just let me know
> >what day works best.
> >
> >Malcolm
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:09 AM
> > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > >
> > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > >
> > > Well, WX permitting, I would say the 9th or 10th, or maybe the 16th or
> > > 17th.
> > > We were planning a 3 day weekend up north on Oct. 1st.
> > >
> > > I would really like to see the projects you have down there, and I am
> >sure
> > >
> > > there are several others that would too.
> > >
> > > Thanks for volunteering this too.
> > >
> > > Steve -in Michigan
> > >
> > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:41:51 -0400
> > > >
> > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > >
> > > >Steve KUYF is 6 miles if you don't want to chance it. When is a good
> >time
> > > >for everyone? Some Saturday in Oct.?
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:59 AM
> > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > >
> > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Malcolm, I think that would be great, just give me notice as to
when
> > > and
> > > > > we
> > > > > will make plans.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will have to practice up on my short field TO & landings. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:27:01 -0400
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace"
> > > <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I am sure we could have one at KUYF, which is 6 miles from my
strip
> > > or
> > > >if
> > > > > >everyone wants to try my 1850 ft strip. We can have it at my
place
> > > any
> > > > > >weekend. I have 3 Tailwinds under construction.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Malcolm
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:36 AM
> > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > ><usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Malcolm, we really wanted to be there, but we left on the 4th
to
> > > >spend
> > > > > 9
> > > > > > > days at the cottage and did not know the gathering was for the
> > > > > following
> > > > > > > weekend. We would have flown over if we would have known.
> >Maybe
> > > we
> > > > > >should
> > > > > > > have one down in Ohio somewhere.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:38:58 -0400
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > > >Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Steve we did not see you Saturday at Plainwell. Sorry we
missed
> > > >you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Malcolm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:07 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
Tailwind
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Wow Weav! Why don't you tell us what you really think?
:)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan, plowing skies in a Cherokee for now.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > >Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:52:05 -0700
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > > > > > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Hey MIKE!!! Try for just a moment to learn something
from
> > > > > others
> > > > > >that
> > > > > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > > > >been there......
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >First of all.... There is no substitute for Horsepower
> >AND
> > > > > > > >Altitude....
> > > > > > > > > >From Aviator 1.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Next.. How many times do you want to buy an engine? You
> > > >already
> > > > >
> > > > > >did
> > > > > > > >it
> > > > > > > > > >once (Buick) and now you are thinking about saving money
by
> > > >only
> > > > > >going
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > >100 HP?? Let's see, that will be about $5,000 -
> >$10,000.....
> > > > >
> > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > >you will fly it....."Recreationally"?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Then after you fly off your 40 hours or so, you might
take
> > > your
> > > > > >wife
> > > > > >or
> > > > > > > > > >daughter or son OR like Magaw did, Took his mom for a
ride.
> > > >Then
> > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > > > >to go somewhere and take a picnic lunch with you along
with
> > > >some
> > > > > > > > > Pepsi's..
> > > > > > > > > >Have to have some weight for this example... Oh boy,
> >you're
> > > > > both
> > > > > > > > > excited
> > > > > > > > > >to be flying somewhere for a picnic.. You have
discovered
> >a
> > > >neat
> > > > > > > >little
> > > > > > > > > >place where you can land and there is a small river
nearby
> > > >where
> > > > > >you
> > > > > > > >both
> > > > > > > > > >can go swimming too.. Man, this is getting fun, all this
> > > > > > > >"Recreational"
> > > > > > > > > >flying eh? So, you hop in your 100 HP Tailwind and head
for
> > > the
> > > > > > > >hills...
> > > > > > > > > >You land and enjoy your time..... NOW, it's time to come
> > > home.
> > > > > >It's
> > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > >2:30 pm and damn it's hot.... but soon, you guys will
be
> >up
> > > > > high
> > > > > >in
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > >nice cool air flying home, right? Wrong,.... First you
> >have
> > >
> > > >to
> > > > > > > > > >successfully takeoff in the DENSITY ALTITUDE from where
you
> > > >are.
> > > > >
> > > > > >But
> > > > > > > > > hey,
> > > > > > > > > >you know your plane, it will be no problem....... You
take
> > > off
> > > > > all
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > > >to go flying. So you line er up and jam the throttle in
to
> > > the
> > > > > > > >stops....
> > > > > > > > > >Away you go......sorta....as you roll, you lean it just a
> >tad
> > >
> > > >for
> > > > > >more
> > > > > > > > > >power...and you go and go and go and you aren't really
> > > >setting
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > world
> > > > > > > > > >on fire with your accelleration. Your ass starts to
pucker
> > > some
> > > > > as
> > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > >barely lift off before having to abort. Now the damn
trees
> > > are
> > > > > >getting
> > > > > > > > > real
> > > > > > > > > >close too and your rate of climb stinks in the heat of
the
> > > day.
> > > > > >Whew!!!
> > > > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > >just made it over the tree's and around the big rock on
the
> > > >left.
> > > > >
> > > > > >It
> > > > > > > >is
> > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > >this moment that you will remember all these "devilish"
> > > emails
> > > > > >about
> > > > > > > > > >putting
> > > > > > > > > >the right engine on in the first place. Of course, then
> >you
> > > >have
> > > > >
> > > > > >to
> > > > > >go
> > > > > > > > > >home
> > > > > > > > > >and explain to your wife how you need to spend a bunch
more
> > > >money
> > > > >
> > > > > >now
> > > > > > > >for
> > > > > > > > > >another engine. But first you have to buy her a bunch of
> >new
> > > > > >furniture
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > >the house so she won't be so pissed off about it.. Of
> > > course,
> > > > > you
> > > > > >tell
> > > > > > > > > her
> > > > > > > > > >it's not that big a deal, you can sell the engine you had
> >in
> > > >the
> > > > > >first
> > > > > > > > > >place. Gee, how much is that Buick worth??? even with
ALL
> > > the
> > > > > cool
> > > > > > > > > >accesories you bought for it??? And then, wow oh wow,
now
> > > you
> > > > > have
> > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > > 0-200
> > > > > > > > > >or an 0-235 for sale too. Gotta find someone that really
> > > needs
> > > > > one
> > > > > >of
> > > > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > > >so you can crate it up and ship it somewhere Kinda
like
> > > Bob
> > > > > > > > > Connors....
> > > > > > > > > >( I couldn't resist) sorry Bob.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Just how much time and money do you have that you want to
> > > >waste?
> > > > > >Just
> > > > > > > > > >imagine for a moment, that you could have purchased a
nice
> > > >0-320
> > > > > in
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > >first place, just like Eric did...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Weav
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >PS. Hahahahhahaha..... I know, I know.....
> >hahahhaha..
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > >a
> > > > > > > >bad,
> > > > > > > > > >bad boy...and a probably not a good role model either.
> >But
> > >
> > > >at
> > > > > >times,
> > > > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > >like that cute little angel.......trying to save your
> >bacon.
> > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > >From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:50 AM
> > > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Ever seen the commercials where the guy has the devil
on
> > > one
> > > > > > > >shoulder
> > > > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > > >an angel on the other. Guess which one Weaver would be?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On
> >Behalf
> > >
> > > >Of
> > > > > >Fred
> > > > > > > > > > > Weaver
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:13 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > > > > > ><Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Makes no difference...... Power is required....
> > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:23 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > For me this airplane will mostly be used for
> >recreation.
> > > > > >Cross
> > > > > > > > > >country
> > > > > > > > > > > would be secondary.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On
> > > Behalf
> > > > > Of
> > > > > >Luc
> > > > > > > >H.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:00 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Luc H."
> > > > > ><4luc@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 100 hp is great if your building a Cub or other
> >airplane
> > > > > with
> > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > > single
> > > > > > > > > > > digit
> > > > > > > > > > > > wing loading.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Luc
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:11 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I looking to put a Lycoming on my plane. Something
> > > around
> > > > > 100
> > > > > >hp.
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > want to go broke doing it. Help.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Mike NW Illinois
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Only 1727 NM for us "Left Coasters"... 10 hours??? Damn, it would take
ALL DAY just to get there.
Weav
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Flamini" <flamini2@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Dennis Flamini"
<flamini2@comcast.net>
>
> 9th or 16th Oct is ok with me, checked flight planner, 1:11 from Chicago
to
> Malcolm's.
> Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:44 AM
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> >
> > The 9th would be good for us, and if the wx stinks, the 16th would be a
> good
> > back up.
> >
> > Anybody else have input? Eric? JohnD? Paul? Brian? Jerry? Dennis?
> > Anybody........ Weav??? :)
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:25:09 -0400
> > >
> > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > >
> > >Steve, 9th or the 16th which ever is best for everybody. The GPS cord.
> for
> > >my place N 39 55.067, W 083 34.237. For those that can't land on my
strip
> > >KUFY is 6 miles and I will provide shuttle service. I will fire up the
> gas
> > >grill and we can have hamburgers and hot dogs for lunch. Just let me
know
> > >what day works best.
> > >
> > >Malcolm
> > >
>
>
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
We will be looking for ya!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Weaver [SMTP:Mytyweav@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:45 AM
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>
> The hamburgers and hot dogs sound good to me!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 5:44 AM
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> >
> > The 9th would be good for us, and if the wx stinks, the 16th would be a
> good
> > back up.
> >
> > Anybody else have input? Eric? JohnD? Paul? Brian? Jerry? Dennis?
> > Anybody........ Weav??? :)
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:25:09 -0400
> > >
> > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > >
> > >Steve, 9th or the 16th which ever is best for everybody. The GPS cord.
> for
> > >my place N 39 55.067, W 083 34.237. For those that can't land on my
> strip
> > >KUFY is 6 miles and I will provide shuttle service. I will fire up the
> gas
> > >grill and we can have hamburgers and hot dogs for lunch. Just let me
> know
> > >what day works best.
> > >
> > >Malcolm
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:09 AM
> > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > >
> > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > Well, WX permitting, I would say the 9th or 10th, or maybe the 16th
> or
> > > > 17th.
> > > > We were planning a 3 day weekend up north on Oct. 1st.
> > > >
> > > > I would really like to see the projects you have down there, and I
> am
> > >sure
> > > >
> > > > there are several others that would too.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for volunteering this too.
> > > >
> > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > >
> > > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:41:51 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > > >
> > > > >Steve KUYF is 6 miles if you don't want to chance it. When is a
> good
> > >time
> > > > >for everyone? Some Saturday in Oct.?
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:59 AM
> > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Malcolm, I think that would be great, just give me notice as to
> when
> > > > and
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > will make plans.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will have to practice up on my short field TO & landings. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:27:01 -0400
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace"
> > > > <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I am sure we could have one at KUYF, which is 6 miles from my
> strip
> > > > or
> > > > >if
> > > > > > >everyone wants to try my 1850 ft strip. We can have it at my
> place
> > > > any
> > > > > > >weekend. I have 3 Tailwinds under construction.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Malcolm
> > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:36 AM
> > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > ><usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Malcolm, we really wanted to be there, but we left on the
> 4th
> to
> > > > >spend
> > > > > > 9
> > > > > > > > days at the cottage and did not know the gathering was for
> the
> > > > > > following
> > > > > > > > weekend. We would have flown over if we would have known.
> > >Maybe
> > > > we
> > > > > > >should
> > > > > > > > have one down in Ohio somewhere.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:38:58 -0400
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > > > >Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Steve we did not see you Saturday at Plainwell. Sorry we
> missed
> > > > >you.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Malcolm
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:07 PM
> > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
> Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Wow Weav! Why don't you tell us what you really think?
> :)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan, plowing skies in a Cherokee for now.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
> Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:52:05 -0700
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > > > > > > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Hey MIKE!!! Try for just a moment to learn something
> from
> > > > > > others
> > > > > > >that
> > > > > > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > > > > >been there......
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >First of all.... There is no substitute for
> Horsepower
> > >AND
> > > > > > > > >Altitude....
> > > > > > > > > > >From Aviator 1.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Next.. How many times do you want to buy an engine?
> You
> > > > >already
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >did
> > > > > > > > >it
> > > > > > > > > > >once (Buick) and now you are thinking about saving
> money
> by
> > > > >only
> > > > > > >going
> > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > >100 HP?? Let's see, that will be about $5,000 -
> > >$10,000.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > > >you will fly it....."Recreationally"?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Then after you fly off your 40 hours or so, you might
> take
> > > > your
> > > > > > >wife
> > > > > > >or
> > > > > > > > > > >daughter or son OR like Magaw did, Took his mom for a
> ride.
> > > > >Then
> > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > > > > >to go somewhere and take a picnic lunch with you along
> with
> > > > >some
> > > > > > > > > > Pepsi's..
> > > > > > > > > > >Have to have some weight for this example... Oh boy,
> > >you're
> > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > > > excited
> > > > > > > > > > >to be flying somewhere for a picnic.. You have
> discovered
> > >a
> > > > >neat
> > > > > > > > >little
> > > > > > > > > > >place where you can land and there is a small river
> nearby
> > > > >where
> > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > >both
> > > > > > > > > > >can go swimming too.. Man, this is getting fun, all
> this
> > > > > > > > >"Recreational"
> > > > > > > > > > >flying eh? So, you hop in your 100 HP Tailwind and head
> for
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > >hills...
> > > > > > > > > > >You land and enjoy your time..... NOW, it's time to
> come
> > > > home.
> > > > > > >It's
> > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > >2:30 pm and damn it's hot.... but soon, you guys will
> be
> > >up
> > > > > > high
> > > > > > >in
> > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > >nice cool air flying home, right? Wrong,.... First
> you
> > >have
> > > >
> > > > >to
> > > > > > > > > > >successfully takeoff in the DENSITY ALTITUDE from where
> you
> > > > >are.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >But
> > > > > > > > > > hey,
> > > > > > > > > > >you know your plane, it will be no problem....... You
> take
> > > > off
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > > > >to go flying. So you line er up and jam the throttle
> in
> to
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > >stops....
> > > > > > > > > > >Away you go......sorta....as you roll, you lean it just
> a
> > >tad
> > > >
> > > > >for
> > > > > > >more
> > > > > > > > > > >power...and you go and go and go and you aren't
> really
> > > > >setting
> > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > world
> > > > > > > > > > >on fire with your accelleration. Your ass starts to
> pucker
> > > > some
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > >barely lift off before having to abort. Now the damn
> trees
> > > > are
> > > > > > >getting
> > > > > > > > > > real
> > > > > > > > > > >close too and your rate of climb stinks in the heat of
> the
> > > > day.
> > > > > > >Whew!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > >just made it over the tree's and around the big rock on
> the
> > > > >left.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >It
> > > > > > > > >is
> > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > >this moment that you will remember all these "devilish"
> > > > emails
> > > > > > >about
> > > > > > > > > > >putting
> > > > > > > > > > >the right engine on in the first place. Of course,
> then
> > >you
> > > > >have
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >to
> > > > > > >go
> > > > > > > > > > >home
> > > > > > > > > > >and explain to your wife how you need to spend a bunch
> more
> > > > >money
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >now
> > > > > > > > >for
> > > > > > > > > > >another engine. But first you have to buy her a bunch
> of
> > >new
> > > > > > >furniture
> > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > >the house so she won't be so pissed off about it.. Of
> > > > course,
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > >tell
> > > > > > > > > > her
> > > > > > > > > > >it's not that big a deal, you can sell the engine you
> had
> > >in
> > > > >the
> > > > > > >first
> > > > > > > > > > >place. Gee, how much is that Buick worth??? even with
> ALL
> > > > the
> > > > > > cool
> > > > > > > > > > >accesories you bought for it??? And then, wow oh wow,
> now
> > > > you
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > > > 0-200
> > > > > > > > > > >or an 0-235 for sale too. Gotta find someone that
> really
> > > > needs
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > >of
> > > > > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > > > >so you can crate it up and ship it somewhere Kinda
> like
> > > > Bob
> > > > > > > > > > Connors....
> > > > > > > > > > >( I couldn't resist) sorry Bob.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Just how much time and money do you have that you want
> to
> > > > >waste?
> > > > > > >Just
> > > > > > > > > > >imagine for a moment, that you could have purchased a
> nice
> > > > >0-320
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > >first place, just like Eric did...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Weav
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >PS. Hahahahhahaha..... I know, I know.....
> > >hahahhaha..
> > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > >bad,
> > > > > > > > > > >bad boy...and a probably not a good role model either.
> > >But
> > > >
> > > > >at
> > > > > > >times,
> > > > > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > > >like that cute little angel.......trying to save your
> > >bacon.
> > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > >From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:50 AM
> > > > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
> > > > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ever seen the commercials where the guy has the
> devil
> on
> > > > one
> > > > > > > > >shoulder
> > > > > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > > > >an angel on the other. Guess which one Weaver would
> be?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On
> > >Behalf
> > > >
> > > > >Of
> > > > > > >Fred
> > > > > > > > > > > > Weaver
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:13 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > > > > > > ><Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Makes no difference...... Power is required....
> > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:23 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke,
> Mike"
> > > > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > For me this airplane will mostly be used for
> > >recreation.
> > > > > > >Cross
> > > > > > > > > > >country
> > > > > > > > > > > > would be secondary.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > > Of
> > > > > > >Luc
> > > > > > > > >H.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:00 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Luc H."
> > > > > > ><4luc@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 100 hp is great if your building a Cub or other
> > >airplane
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > > > single
> > > > > > > > > > > > digit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wing loading.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Luc
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:11 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke,
> Mike"
> > > > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I looking to put a Lycoming on my plane.
> Something
> > > > around
> > > > > > 100
> > > > > > >hp.
> > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > want to go broke doing it. Help.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike NW Illinois
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CJ... If you send it to Matt for the "Photo Share" on Matronics, we can all go see it whenever we want. ie: I'd like to see it BUT, I only have high speed access when I'm at my hangar. It would be fine to go look at it then... But to see it here at the house would take a little while. The address for our photo share is... http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Just send the picture/s there along with some description/text... Then stand back and watch it happen!
Yeeehaaaa,
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind
To: Tailwind List
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 9:38 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: N540CJ
Hey guys,
I just received an illustration of my Tailwind from one of our sponsors. I would
like to post it, but it is a 2mb file. If anyone wants to see it email me.
If the group wants to see it, the guys with fast planes and slow internet connections
will just have to be sore.
CJ Kirby
memphistailwind@bellsouth.net
N540CJ
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Dennis Flamini" <flamini2@comcast.net>
Malcolm,
i plugged the coord in my GPS, is the strip called Kepes?
Looks to be between I-70 and I-40?
How are the approaches?
Have other planes been landing there?
What direction is the runway?
Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago
----- Original Message -----
do not archive
From: <Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com>
Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
>
> We will be looking for ya!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fred Weaver [SMTP:Mytyweav@earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:45 AM
> > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> >
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> >
> > The hamburgers and hot dogs sound good to me!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 5:44 AM
> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> >
> >
> > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > >
> > > The 9th would be good for us, and if the wx stinks, the 16th would be
a
> > good
> > > back up.
> > >
> > > Anybody else have input? Eric? JohnD? Paul? Brian? Jerry? Dennis?
> > > Anybody........ Weav??? :)
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:25:09 -0400
> > > >
> > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > >
> > > >Steve, 9th or the 16th which ever is best for everybody. The GPS
cord.
> > for
> > > >my place N 39 55.067, W 083 34.237. For those that can't land on my
> > strip
> > > >KUFY is 6 miles and I will provide shuttle service. I will fire up
the
> > gas
> > > >grill and we can have hamburgers and hot dogs for lunch. Just let me
> > know
> > > >what day works best.
> > > >
> > > >Malcolm
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:09 AM
> > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > >
> > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, WX permitting, I would say the 9th or 10th, or maybe the
16th
> > or
> > > > > 17th.
> > > > > We were planning a 3 day weekend up north on Oct. 1st.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would really like to see the projects you have down there, and I
> > am
> > > >sure
> > > > >
> > > > > there are several others that would too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for volunteering this too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:41:51 -0400
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Steve KUYF is 6 miles if you don't want to chance it. When is a
> > good
> > > >time
> > > > > >for everyone? Some Saturday in Oct.?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:59 AM
> > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Malcolm, I think that would be great, just give me notice as
to
> > when
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > will make plans.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will have to practice up on my short field TO & landings.
:)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:27:01 -0400
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace"
> > > > > <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I am sure we could have one at KUYF, which is 6 miles from my
> > strip
> > > > > or
> > > > > >if
> > > > > > > >everyone wants to try my 1850 ft strip. We can have it at my
> > place
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > >weekend. I have 3 Tailwinds under construction.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Malcolm
> > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:36 AM
> > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > > ><usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Malcolm, we really wanted to be there, but we left on the
> > 4th
> > to
> > > > > >spend
> > > > > > > 9
> > > > > > > > > days at the cottage and did not know the gathering was for
> > the
> > > > > > > following
> > > > > > > > > weekend. We would have flown over if we would have known.
> > > >Maybe
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > >should
> > > > > > > > > have one down in Ohio somewhere.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:38:58 -0400
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > > > > >Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Steve we did not see you Saturday at Plainwell. Sorry we
> > missed
> > > > > >you.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Malcolm
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:07 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
> > Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > > > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Wow Weav! Why don't you tell us what you really
think?
> > :)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan, plowing skies in a Cherokee for
now.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
> > Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:52:05 -0700
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > > > > > > > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >Hey MIKE!!! Try for just a moment to learn
something
> > from
> > > > > > > others
> > > > > > > >that
> > > > > > > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > > > > > >been there......
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >First of all.... There is no substitute for
> > Horsepower
> > > >AND
> > > > > > > > > >Altitude....
> > > > > > > > > > > >From Aviator 1.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >Next.. How many times do you want to buy an engine?
> > You
> > > > > >already
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >did
> > > > > > > > > >it
> > > > > > > > > > > >once (Buick) and now you are thinking about saving
> > money
> > by
> > > > > >only
> > > > > > > >going
> > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > >100 HP?? Let's see, that will be about $5,000 -
> > > >$10,000.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > > > >you will fly it....."Recreationally"?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >Then after you fly off your 40 hours or so, you might
> > take
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > >wife
> > > > > > > >or
> > > > > > > > > > > >daughter or son OR like Magaw did, Took his mom for a
> > ride.
> > > > > >Then
> > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > > > > > >to go somewhere and take a picnic lunch with you
along
> > with
> > > > > >some
> > > > > > > > > > > Pepsi's..
> > > > > > > > > > > >Have to have some weight for this example... Oh
boy,
> > > >you're
> > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > > > > excited
> > > > > > > > > > > >to be flying somewhere for a picnic.. You have
> > discovered
> > > >a
> > > > > >neat
> > > > > > > > > >little
> > > > > > > > > > > >place where you can land and there is a small river
> > nearby
> > > > > >where
> > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > >both
> > > > > > > > > > > >can go swimming too.. Man, this is getting fun, all
> > this
> > > > > > > > > >"Recreational"
> > > > > > > > > > > >flying eh? So, you hop in your 100 HP Tailwind and
head
> > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >hills...
> > > > > > > > > > > >You land and enjoy your time..... NOW, it's time to
> > come
> > > > > home.
> > > > > > > >It's
> > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > >2:30 pm and damn it's hot.... but soon, you guys
will
> > be
> > > >up
> > > > > > > high
> > > > > > > >in
> > > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > >nice cool air flying home, right? Wrong,.... First
> > you
> > > >have
> > > > >
> > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > > > > >successfully takeoff in the DENSITY ALTITUDE from
where
> > you
> > > > > >are.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >But
> > > > > > > > > > > hey,
> > > > > > > > > > > >you know your plane, it will be no problem....... You
> > take
> > > > > off
> > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > > > > >to go flying. So you line er up and jam the throttle
> > in
> > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >stops....
> > > > > > > > > > > >Away you go......sorta....as you roll, you lean it
just
> > a
> > > >tad
> > > > >
> > > > > >for
> > > > > > > >more
> > > > > > > > > > > >power...and you go and go and go and you aren't
> > really
> > > > > >setting
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > world
> > > > > > > > > > > >on fire with your accelleration. Your ass starts to
> > pucker
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > > >barely lift off before having to abort. Now the damn
> > trees
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > >getting
> > > > > > > > > > > real
> > > > > > > > > > > >close too and your rate of climb stinks in the heat
of
> > the
> > > > > day.
> > > > > > > >Whew!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > > >just made it over the tree's and around the big rock
on
> > the
> > > > > >left.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >It
> > > > > > > > > >is
> > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > >this moment that you will remember all these
"devilish"
> > > > > emails
> > > > > > > >about
> > > > > > > > > > > >putting
> > > > > > > > > > > >the right engine on in the first place. Of course,
> > then
> > > >you
> > > > > >have
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > >go
> > > > > > > > > > > >home
> > > > > > > > > > > >and explain to your wife how you need to spend a
bunch
> > more
> > > > > >money
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >now
> > > > > > > > > >for
> > > > > > > > > > > >another engine. But first you have to buy her a bunch
> > of
> > > >new
> > > > > > > >furniture
> > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > >the house so she won't be so pissed off about it..
Of
> > > > > course,
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > >tell
> > > > > > > > > > > her
> > > > > > > > > > > >it's not that big a deal, you can sell the engine you
> > had
> > > >in
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > > >first
> > > > > > > > > > > >place. Gee, how much is that Buick worth??? even
with
> > ALL
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > cool
> > > > > > > > > > > >accesories you bought for it??? And then, wow oh
wow,
> > now
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > > > > 0-200
> > > > > > > > > > > >or an 0-235 for sale too. Gotta find someone that
> > really
> > > > > needs
> > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > >of
> > > > > > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > > > > >so you can crate it up and ship it somewhere Kinda
> > like
> > > > > Bob
> > > > > > > > > > > Connors....
> > > > > > > > > > > >( I couldn't resist) sorry Bob.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >Just how much time and money do you have that you
want
> > to
> > > > > >waste?
> > > > > > > >Just
> > > > > > > > > > > >imagine for a moment, that you could have purchased a
> > nice
> > > > > >0-320
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > >first place, just like Eric did...
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >Weav
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >PS. Hahahahhahaha..... I know, I know.....
> > > >hahahhaha..
> > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > > >bad,
> > > > > > > > > > > >bad boy...and a probably not a good role model
either.
> > > >But
> > > > >
> > > > > >at
> > > > > > > >times,
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > > > >like that cute little angel.......trying to save your
> > > >bacon.
> > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:50 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke,
Mike"
> > > > > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ever seen the commercials where the guy has the
> > devil
> > on
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > >shoulder
> > > > > > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > > > > >an angel on the other. Guess which one Weaver would
> > be?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On
> > > >Behalf
> > > > >
> > > > > >Of
> > > > > > > >Fred
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Weaver
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:13 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > > > > > > > ><Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Makes no difference...... Power is required....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:23 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke,
> > Mike"
> > > > > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > For me this airplane will mostly be used for
> > > >recreation.
> > > > > > > >Cross
> > > > > > > > > > > >country
> > > > > > > > > > > > > would be secondary.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On
> > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > > Of
> > > > > > > >Luc
> > > > > > > > > >H.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:00 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Luc H."
> > > > > > > ><4luc@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100 hp is great if your building a Cub or other
> > > >airplane
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > > > > single
> > > > > > > > > > > > > digit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wing loading.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Luc
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:11 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke,
> > Mike"
> > > > > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I looking to put a Lycoming on my plane.
> > Something
> > > > > around
> > > > > > > 100
> > > > > > > >hp.
> > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > want to go broke doing it. Help.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike NW Illinois
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
No, I don't have it listed, Kepes is West of me. Brian Alley has landed in
his TW. Clear approaches on both ends. 60 acres of beans on East end, 150
acres on West end that is 75 ft lower than my runway. Unless there is a lot
of wind I land to the East and roll up hill. The strip is 1850 ft long I
usually land and am stopped in 1200 ft. If you don't like what you see KUYF
is 6 miles to the East.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Flamini [SMTP:flamini2@comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 11:30 AM
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Dennis Flamini"
> <flamini2@comcast.net>
>
> Malcolm,
> i plugged the coord in my GPS, is the strip called Kepes?
> Looks to be between I-70 and I-40?
> How are the approaches?
> Have other planes been landing there?
> What direction is the runway?
> Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago
> ----- Original Message -----
> do not archive
>
>
> From: <Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:06 AM
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> >
> > We will be looking for ya!
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Fred Weaver [SMTP:Mytyweav@earthlink.net]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:45 AM
> > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > >
> > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > >
> > > The hamburgers and hot dogs sound good to me!
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 5:44 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > The 9th would be good for us, and if the wx stinks, the 16th would
> be
> a
> > > good
> > > > back up.
> > > >
> > > > Anybody else have input? Eric? JohnD? Paul? Brian? Jerry? Dennis?
> > > > Anybody........ Weav??? :)
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:25:09 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > > >
> > > > >Steve, 9th or the 16th which ever is best for everybody. The GPS
> cord.
> > > for
> > > > >my place N 39 55.067, W 083 34.237. For those that can't land on my
> > > strip
> > > > >KUFY is 6 miles and I will provide shuttle service. I will fire up
> the
> > > gas
> > > > >grill and we can have hamburgers and hot dogs for lunch. Just let
> me
> > > know
> > > > >what day works best.
> > > > >
> > > > >Malcolm
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:09 AM
> > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, WX permitting, I would say the 9th or 10th, or maybe the
> 16th
> > > or
> > > > > > 17th.
> > > > > > We were planning a 3 day weekend up north on Oct. 1st.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would really like to see the projects you have down there, and
> I
> > > am
> > > > >sure
> > > > > >
> > > > > > there are several others that would too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for volunteering this too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:41:51 -0400
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > > Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Steve KUYF is 6 miles if you don't want to chance it. When is a
> > > good
> > > > >time
> > > > > > >for everyone? Some Saturday in Oct.?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:59 AM
> > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Malcolm, I think that would be great, just give me notice as
> to
> > > when
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > will make plans.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I will have to practice up on my short field TO & landings.
> :)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >From: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:27:01 -0400
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace"
> > > > > > <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >I am sure we could have one at KUYF, which is 6 miles from
> my
> > > strip
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > >if
> > > > > > > > >everyone wants to try my 1850 ft strip. We can have it at
> my
> > > place
> > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > >weekend. I have 3 Tailwinds under construction.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Malcolm
> > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > >From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:36 AM
> > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > > > ><usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Malcolm, we really wanted to be there, but we left on
> the
> > > 4th
> > > to
> > > > > > >spend
> > > > > > > > 9
> > > > > > > > > > days at the cottage and did not know the gathering was
> for
> > > the
> > > > > > > > following
> > > > > > > > > > weekend. We would have flown over if we would have
> known.
> > > > >Maybe
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > >should
> > > > > > > > > > have one down in Ohio somewhere.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
> Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:38:58 -0400
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > > > > > >Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Steve we did not see you Saturday at Plainwell. Sorry
> we
> > > missed
> > > > > > >you.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Malcolm
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:07 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
> > > Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen
> Doughty"
> > > > > > > > > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Wow Weav! Why don't you tell us what you really
> think?
> > > :)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan, plowing skies in a Cherokee for
> now.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
> > > Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:52:05 -0700
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > > > > > > > > > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Hey MIKE!!! Try for just a moment to learn
> something
> > > from
> > > > > > > > others
> > > > > > > > >that
> > > > > > > > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > > > > > > >been there......
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >First of all.... There is no substitute for
> > > Horsepower
> > > > >AND
> > > > > > > > > > >Altitude....
> > > > > > > > > > > > >From Aviator 1.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Next.. How many times do you want to buy an
> engine?
> > > You
> > > > > > >already
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >did
> > > > > > > > > > >it
> > > > > > > > > > > > >once (Buick) and now you are thinking about saving
> > > money
> > > by
> > > > > > >only
> > > > > > > > >going
> > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > >100 HP?? Let's see, that will be about $5,000 -
> > > > >$10,000.....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > > > > >you will fly it....."Recreationally"?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Then after you fly off your 40 hours or so, you
> might
> > > take
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > >wife
> > > > > > > > >or
> > > > > > > > > > > > >daughter or son OR like Magaw did, Took his mom for
> a
> > > ride.
> > > > > > >Then
> > > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > > > > > > >to go somewhere and take a picnic lunch with you
> along
> > > with
> > > > > > >some
> > > > > > > > > > > > Pepsi's..
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Have to have some weight for this example... Oh
> boy,
> > > > >you're
> > > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > > > > > excited
> > > > > > > > > > > > >to be flying somewhere for a picnic.. You have
> > > discovered
> > > > >a
> > > > > > >neat
> > > > > > > > > > >little
> > > > > > > > > > > > >place where you can land and there is a small river
> > > nearby
> > > > > > >where
> > > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > >both
> > > > > > > > > > > > >can go swimming too.. Man, this is getting fun,
> all
> > > this
> > > > > > > > > > >"Recreational"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >flying eh? So, you hop in your 100 HP Tailwind and
> head
> > > for
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >hills...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >You land and enjoy your time..... NOW, it's time
> to
> > > come
> > > > > > home.
> > > > > > > > >It's
> > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > >2:30 pm and damn it's hot.... but soon, you guys
> will
> > > be
> > > > >up
> > > > > > > > high
> > > > > > > > >in
> > > > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >nice cool air flying home, right? Wrong,....
> First
> > > you
> > > > >have
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > > > > > >successfully takeoff in the DENSITY ALTITUDE from
> where
> > > you
> > > > > > >are.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >But
> > > > > > > > > > > > hey,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >you know your plane, it will be no problem.......
> You
> > > take
> > > > > > off
> > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > > > > > >to go flying. So you line er up and jam the
> throttle
> > > in
> > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >stops....
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Away you go......sorta....as you roll, you lean it
> just
> > > a
> > > > >tad
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >for
> > > > > > > > >more
> > > > > > > > > > > > >power...and you go and go and go and you aren't
> > > really
> > > > > > >setting
> > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > > world
> > > > > > > > > > > > >on fire with your accelleration. Your ass starts to
> > > pucker
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > > > >barely lift off before having to abort. Now the
> damn
> > > trees
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > >getting
> > > > > > > > > > > > real
> > > > > > > > > > > > >close too and your rate of climb stinks in the heat
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > day.
> > > > > > > > >Whew!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > > > >just made it over the tree's and around the big
> rock
> on
> > > the
> > > > > > >left.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >It
> > > > > > > > > > >is
> > > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > >this moment that you will remember all these
> "devilish"
> > > > > > emails
> > > > > > > > >about
> > > > > > > > > > > > >putting
> > > > > > > > > > > > >the right engine on in the first place. Of course,
> > > then
> > > > >you
> > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > >go
> > > > > > > > > > > > >home
> > > > > > > > > > > > >and explain to your wife how you need to spend a
> bunch
> > > more
> > > > > > >money
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >now
> > > > > > > > > > >for
> > > > > > > > > > > > >another engine. But first you have to buy her a
> bunch
> > > of
> > > > >new
> > > > > > > > >furniture
> > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > >the house so she won't be so pissed off about it..
> Of
> > > > > > course,
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > >tell
> > > > > > > > > > > > her
> > > > > > > > > > > > >it's not that big a deal, you can sell the engine
> you
> > > had
> > > > >in
> > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > >first
> > > > > > > > > > > > >place. Gee, how much is that Buick worth??? even
> with
> > > ALL
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > cool
> > > > > > > > > > > > >accesories you bought for it??? And then, wow oh
> wow,
> > > now
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > > > > > 0-200
> > > > > > > > > > > > >or an 0-235 for sale too. Gotta find someone that
> > > really
> > > > > > needs
> > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > >of
> > > > > > > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > > > > > >so you can crate it up and ship it somewhere
> Kinda
> > > like
> > > > > > Bob
> > > > > > > > > > > > Connors....
> > > > > > > > > > > > >( I couldn't resist) sorry Bob.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Just how much time and money do you have that you
> want
> > > to
> > > > > > >waste?
> > > > > > > > >Just
> > > > > > > > > > > > >imagine for a moment, that you could have purchased
> a
> > > nice
> > > > > > >0-320
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >first place, just like Eric did...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Weav
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >PS. Hahahahhahaha..... I know, I know.....
> > > > >hahahhaha..
> > > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > > > >bad,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >bad boy...and a probably not a good role model
> either.
> > > > >But
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >at
> > > > > > > > >times,
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > > > > >like that cute little angel.......trying to save
> your
> > > > >bacon.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:50 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke,
> Mike"
> > > > > > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ever seen the commercials where the guy has the
> > > devil
> > > on
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > >shoulder
> > > > > > > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > > > > > >an angel on the other. Guess which one Weaver
> would
> > > be?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On
> > > > >Behalf
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Of
> > > > > > > > >Fred
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Weaver
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:13 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred
> Weaver"
> > > > > > > > > > > > ><Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Makes no difference...... Power is
> required....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:23 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke,
> > > Mike"
> > > > > > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For me this airplane will mostly be used for
> > > > >recreation.
> > > > > > > > >Cross
> > > > > > > > > > > > >country
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > would be secondary.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On
> > > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > > > Of
> > > > > > > > >Luc
> > > > > > > > > > >H.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:00 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for
> Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Luc H."
> > > > > > > > ><4luc@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100 hp is great if your building a Cub or
> other
> > > > >airplane
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > > > > > single
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > digit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wing loading.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Luc
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:11 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke,
> > > Mike"
> > > > > > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I looking to put a Lycoming on my plane.
> > > Something
> > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > 100
> > > > > > > > >hp.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > want to go broke doing it. Help.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike NW Illinois
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> Only 1727 NM for us "Left Coasters"... 10 hours??? Damn, it would take
> ALL DAY just to get there.
> Weav
> Do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis Flamini" <flamini2@comcast.net>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:01 AM
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Dennis Flamini"
> <flamini2@comcast.net>
> >
> > 9th or 16th Oct is ok with me, checked flight planner, 1:11 from Chicago
> to
> > Malcolm's.
> > Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago
> > do not archive
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:44 AM
> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> >
> >
> > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > >
> > > The 9th would be good for us, and if the wx stinks, the 16th would be
a
> > good
> > > back up.
> > >
> > > Anybody else have input? Eric? JohnD? Paul? Brian? Jerry? Dennis?
> > > Anybody........ Weav??? :)
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:25:09 -0400
> > > >
> > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > >
> > > >Steve, 9th or the 16th which ever is best for everybody. The GPS
cord.
> > for
> > > >my place N 39 55.067, W 083 34.237. For those that can't land on my
> strip
> > > >KUFY is 6 miles and I will provide shuttle service. I will fire up
the
> > gas
> > > >grill and we can have hamburgers and hot dogs for lunch. Just let me
> know
> > > >what day works best.
> > > >
> > > >Malcolm
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
If the winds are favorable, I am sure we can get our Cherokee in and out.
Steve
>From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
>Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:41:04 -0400
>
>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
>
>No, I don't have it listed, Kepes is West of me. Brian Alley has landed in
>his TW. Clear approaches on both ends. 60 acres of beans on East end, 150
>acres on West end that is 75 ft lower than my runway. Unless there is a lot
>of wind I land to the East and roll up hill. The strip is 1850 ft long I
>usually land and am stopped in 1200 ft. If you don't like what you see KUYF
>is 6 miles to the East.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dennis Flamini [SMTP:flamini2@comcast.net]
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 11:30 AM
> > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> >
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Dennis Flamini"
> > <flamini2@comcast.net>
> >
> > Malcolm,
> > i plugged the coord in my GPS, is the strip called Kepes?
> > Looks to be between I-70 and I-40?
> > How are the approaches?
> > Have other planes been landing there?
> > What direction is the runway?
> > Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> > From: <Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com>
> > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:06 AM
> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> >
> >
> > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > >
> > > We will be looking for ya!
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Fred Weaver [SMTP:Mytyweav@earthlink.net]
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 10:45 AM
> > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > >
> > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > > > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > >
> > > > The hamburgers and hot dogs sound good to me!
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 5:44 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > The 9th would be good for us, and if the wx stinks, the 16th would
> > be
> > a
> > > > good
> > > > > back up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anybody else have input? Eric? JohnD? Paul? Brian? Jerry? Dennis?
> > > > > Anybody........ Weav??? :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:25:09 -0400
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Steve, 9th or the 16th which ever is best for everybody. The GPS
> > cord.
> > > > for
> > > > > >my place N 39 55.067, W 083 34.237. For those that can't land on
>my
> > > > strip
> > > > > >KUFY is 6 miles and I will provide shuttle service. I will fire
>up
> > the
> > > > gas
> > > > > >grill and we can have hamburgers and hot dogs for lunch. Just let
> > me
> > > > know
> > > > > >what day works best.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Malcolm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:09 AM
> > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, WX permitting, I would say the 9th or 10th, or maybe the
> > 16th
> > > > or
> > > > > > > 17th.
> > > > > > > We were planning a 3 day weekend up north on Oct. 1st.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would really like to see the projects you have down there,
>and
> > I
> > > > am
> > > > > >sure
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > there are several others that would too.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for volunteering this too.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
> > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:41:51 -0400
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > > > Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Steve KUYF is 6 miles if you don't want to chance it. When is
>a
> > > > good
> > > > > >time
> > > > > > > >for everyone? Some Saturday in Oct.?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:59 AM
> > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
>Tailwind
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Malcolm, I think that would be great, just give me notice
>as
> > to
> > > > when
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > will make plans.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I will have to practice up on my short field TO &
>landings.
> > :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >From: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
>Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:27:01 -0400
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace"
> > > > > > > <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >I am sure we could have one at KUYF, which is 6 miles
>from
> > my
> > > > strip
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > >if
> > > > > > > > > >everyone wants to try my 1850 ft strip. We can have it at
> > my
> > > > place
> > > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > > >weekend. I have 3 Tailwinds under construction.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Malcolm
> > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > >From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:36 AM
> > > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
>Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
> > > > > > > > > ><usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Malcolm, we really wanted to be there, but we left on
> > the
> > > > 4th
> > > > to
> > > > > > > >spend
> > > > > > > > > 9
> > > > > > > > > > > days at the cottage and did not know the gathering was
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > following
> > > > > > > > > > > weekend. We would have flown over if we would have
> > known.
> > > > > >Maybe
> > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > >should
> > > > > > > > > > > have one down in Ohio somewhere.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
> > Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:38:58 -0400
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
> > > > > > > >Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >Steve we did not see you Saturday at Plainwell. Sorry
> > we
> > > > missed
> > > > > > > >you.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >Malcolm
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Stephen Doughty
>[SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:07 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
> > > > Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen
> > Doughty"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow Weav! Why don't you tell us what you really
> > think?
> > > > :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve -in Michigan, plowing skies in a Cherokee
>for
> > now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a
> > > > Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:52:05 -0700
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred
>Weaver"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hey MIKE!!! Try for just a moment to learn
> > something
> > > > from
> > > > > > > > > others
> > > > > > > > > >that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >been there......
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >First of all.... There is no substitute for
> > > > Horsepower
> > > > > >AND
> > > > > > > > > > > >Altitude....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >From Aviator 1.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Next.. How many times do you want to buy an
> > engine?
> > > > You
> > > > > > > >already
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >did
> > > > > > > > > > > >it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >once (Buick) and now you are thinking about
>saving
> > > > money
> > > > by
> > > > > > > >only
> > > > > > > > > >going
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >100 HP?? Let's see, that will be about $5,000 -
> > > > > >$10,000.....
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >you will fly it....."Recreationally"?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Then after you fly off your 40 hours or so, you
> > might
> > > > take
> > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > >wife
> > > > > > > > > >or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >daughter or son OR like Magaw did, Took his mom
>for
> > a
> > > > ride.
> > > > > > > >Then
> > > > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > decide
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >to go somewhere and take a picnic lunch with you
> > along
> > > > with
> > > > > > > >some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Pepsi's..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Have to have some weight for this example... Oh
> > boy,
> > > > > >you're
> > > > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > > > > > > excited
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >to be flying somewhere for a picnic.. You have
> > > > discovered
> > > > > >a
> > > > > > > >neat
> > > > > > > > > > > >little
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >place where you can land and there is a small
>river
> > > > nearby
> > > > > > > >where
> > > > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > > >both
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >can go swimming too.. Man, this is getting fun,
> > all
> > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > >"Recreational"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >flying eh? So, you hop in your 100 HP Tailwind
>and
> > head
> > > > for
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >hills...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >You land and enjoy your time..... NOW, it's time
> > to
> > > > come
> > > > > > > home.
> > > > > > > > > >It's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >2:30 pm and damn it's hot.... but soon, you
>guys
> > will
> > > > be
> > > > > >up
> > > > > > > > > high
> > > > > > > > > >in
> > > > > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >nice cool air flying home, right? Wrong,....
> > First
> > > > you
> > > > > >have
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >successfully takeoff in the DENSITY ALTITUDE from
> > where
> > > > you
> > > > > > > >are.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >But
> > > > > > > > > > > > > hey,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >you know your plane, it will be no problem.......
> > You
> > > > take
> > > > > > > off
> > > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >to go flying. So you line er up and jam the
> > throttle
> > > > in
> > > > to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >stops....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Away you go......sorta....as you roll, you lean
>it
> > just
> > > > a
> > > > > >tad
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >for
> > > > > > > > > >more
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >power...and you go and go and go and you aren't
> > > > really
> > > > > > > >setting
> > > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > world
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >on fire with your accelleration. Your ass starts
>to
> > > > pucker
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >barely lift off before having to abort. Now the
> > damn
> > > > trees
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > >getting
> > > > > > > > > > > > > real
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >close too and your rate of climb stinks in the
>heat
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > > day.
> > > > > > > > > >Whew!!!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >just made it over the tree's and around the big
> > rock
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >left.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >It
> > > > > > > > > > > >is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >this moment that you will remember all these
> > "devilish"
> > > > > > > emails
> > > > > > > > > >about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >putting
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >the right engine on in the first place. Of
>course,
> > > > then
> > > > > >you
> > > > > > > >have
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > > >go
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >home
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >and explain to your wife how you need to spend a
> > bunch
> > > > more
> > > > > > > >money
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >now
> > > > > > > > > > > >for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >another engine. But first you have to buy her a
> > bunch
> > > > of
> > > > > >new
> > > > > > > > > >furniture
> > > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >the house so she won't be so pissed off about
>it..
> > Of
> > > > > > > course,
> > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > >tell
> > > > > > > > > > > > > her
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >it's not that big a deal, you can sell the engine
> > you
> > > > had
> > > > > >in
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > >first
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >place. Gee, how much is that Buick worth??? even
> > with
> > > > ALL
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > cool
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >accesories you bought for it??? And then, wow oh
> > wow,
> > > > now
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 0-200
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >or an 0-235 for sale too. Gotta find someone that
> > > > really
> > > > > > > needs
> > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > >of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >so you can crate it up and ship it somewhere
> > Kinda
> > > > like
> > > > > > > Bob
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Connors....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >( I couldn't resist) sorry Bob.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Just how much time and money do you have that you
> > want
> > > > to
> > > > > > > >waste?
> > > > > > > > > >Just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >imagine for a moment, that you could have
>purchased
> > a
> > > > nice
> > > > > > > >0-320
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >first place, just like Eric did...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Weav
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >PS. Hahahahhahaha..... I know, I know.....
> > > > > >hahahhaha..
> > > > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > > > > >bad,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >bad boy...and a probably not a good role model
> > either.
> > > > > >But
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >at
> > > > > > > > > >times,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >like that cute little angel.......trying to save
> > your
> > > > > >bacon.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:50 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke,
> > Mike"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ever seen the commercials where the guy has
>the
> > > > devil
> > > > on
> > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > > >shoulder
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >an angel on the other. Guess which one Weaver
> > would
> > > > be?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On
> > > > > >Behalf
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Of
> > > > > > > > > >Fred
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Weaver
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:13 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for
>Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred
> > Weaver"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ><Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Makes no difference...... Power is
> > required....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:23 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for
>Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by:
>"Ruhnke,
> > > > Mike"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For me this airplane will mostly be used for
> > > > > >recreation.
> > > > > > > > > >Cross
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >country
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would be secondary.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From:
>owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On
> > > > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > > > > Of
> > > > > > > > > >Luc
> > > > > > > > > > > >H.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:00 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for
> > Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Luc
>H."
> > > > > > > > > ><4luc@sbcglobal.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100 hp is great if your building a Cub or
> > other
> > > > > >airplane
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > single
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > digit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wing loading.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Luc
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:11 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by:
>"Ruhnke,
> > > > Mike"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I looking to put a Lycoming on my plane.
> > > > Something
> > > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > > 100
> > > > > > > > > >hp.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > want to go broke doing it. Help.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike NW Illinois
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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May 2001 Moraine Ohio Fly-IN.
left to right , Lou O. Dick A. Ben O. Malcolm L.
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| Subject: | Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind |
Looks like I wilI miss it as I am planning on flying to Washington DC on the 8th
for the weekend.
I may be available on the 16th (if it rains out on the 9th).
Eric - do not archive
Stephen Doughty <usaviator1@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
The 9th would be good for us, and if the wx stinks, the 16th would be a good
back up.
Anybody else have input? Eric? JohnD? Paul? Brian? Jerry? Dennis?
Anybody........ Weav??? :)
Steve
>From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
>Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:25:09 -0400
>
>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
>
>Steve, 9th or the 16th which ever is best for everybody. The GPS cord. for
>my place N 39 55.067, W 083 34.237. For those that can't land on my strip
>KUFY is 6 miles and I will provide shuttle service. I will fire up the gas
>grill and we can have hamburgers and hot dogs for lunch. Just let me know
>what day works best.
>
>Malcolm
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d="scan'217,208"; a="252078373:sNHT20873164"
I'm firming up the plan for my project. I've decided to hybridize the Buttercup
and the Tailwind, hence the Tuttercup.
The wing and fuselage from firewall to the seats, will be Buttercup, aft , W-10
including the empennage. The plane will be a tri-gear. Fuselage width will be
42". While my research indicates the leading edge flap may be only marginally
beneficial, I'll use it anyway.
I'm looking at substituting aluminum for steel wherever feasible - flaps, ailerons,
horizontal stabilizer, flippers, rudder, control system components - to save
weight.
Joe Maj
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| Subject: | Re: The Tuttercup |
Remember to increase the stab over the W-10 .
Earl
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Maj
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:03 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
I'm firming up the plan for my project. I've decided to hybridize the Buttercup
and the Tailwind, hence the Tuttercup.
The wing and fuselage from firewall to the seats, will be Buttercup, aft , W-10
including the empennage. The plane will be a tri-gear. Fuselage width will
be 42". While my research indicates the leading edge flap may be only marginally
beneficial, I'll use it anyway.
I'm looking at substituting aluminum for steel wherever feasible - flaps, ailerons,
horizontal stabilizer, flippers, rudder, control system components - to
save weight.
Joe Maj
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I just got back from the upholstery shop with my new TW seats for an estimate ............holy
sh**&
. The guy told me that he would try to keep it to $1000 but gave no promise .
I have to believe that with all the talant in this group that someone should take
up sewing !
Earl Luce
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| Subject: | Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind |
I can be there! Short drive for me! Can bring some burgers and dogs,
let me know!
Bruce Butts
Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com wrote:
>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
>
>Steve, 9th or the 16th which ever is best for everybody. The GPS cord. for
>my place N 39 55.067, W 083 34.237. For those that can't land on my strip
>KUFY is 6 miles and I will provide shuttle service. I will fire up the gas
>grill and we can have hamburgers and hot dogs for lunch. Just let me know
>what day works best.
>
>Malcolm
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:09 AM
>>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>>
>>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
>><usaviator1@hotmail.com>
>>
>>Well, WX permitting, I would say the 9th or 10th, or maybe the 16th or
>>17th.
>> We were planning a 3 day weekend up north on Oct. 1st.
>>
>>I would really like to see the projects you have down there, and I am sure
>>
>>there are several others that would too.
>>
>>Thanks for volunteering this too.
>>
>>Steve -in Michigan
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
>>>Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>>>Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 09:41:51 -0400
>>>
>>>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
>>>
>>>Steve KUYF is 6 miles if you don't want to chance it. When is a good time
>>>for everyone? Some Saturday in Oct.?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
>>>>Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:59 AM
>>>>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>>>Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>>>>
>>>>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
>>>><usaviator1@hotmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>Malcolm, I think that would be great, just give me notice as to when
>>>>
>>>>
>>and
>>
>>
>>>>we
>>>>will make plans.
>>>>
>>>>I will have to practice up on my short field TO & landings. :)
>>>>
>>>>Steve -in Michigan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: "Lovelace" <mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
>>>>>Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>>>>To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>>>>>Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 20:27:01 -0400
>>>>>
>>>>>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>><mlovelace@woh.rr.com>
>>
>>
>>>>>I am sure we could have one at KUYF, which is 6 miles from my strip
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>or
>>
>>
>>>if
>>>
>>>
>>>>>everyone wants to try my 1850 ft strip. We can have it at my place
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>any
>>
>>
>>>>>weekend. I have 3 Tailwinds under construction.
>>>>>
>>>>>Malcolm
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Stephen Doughty" <usaviator1@hotmail.com>
>>>>>To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:36 AM
>>>>>Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>><usaviator1@hotmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Malcolm, we really wanted to be there, but we left on the 4th to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>spend
>>>
>>>
>>>>9
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>days at the cottage and did not know the gathering was for the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>following
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>weekend. We would have flown over if we would have known. Maybe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>we
>>
>>
>>>>>should
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>have one down in Ohio somewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Steve -in Michigan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
>>>>>>>Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>>>>>>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>>>>>>Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 06:38:58 -0400
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--> Tailwind-List message posted by:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>Steve we did not see you Saturday at Plainwell. Sorry we missed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>you.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>Malcolm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: Stephen Doughty [SMTP:usaviator1@hotmail.com]
>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:07 PM
>>>>>>>>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty"
>>>>>>>><usaviator1@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Wow Weav! Why don't you tell us what you really think? :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Steve -in Michigan, plowing skies in a Cherokee for now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>>>>>>>>>Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>>>>>>>>To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Giant Engine for a Tailwind
>>>>>>>>>Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:52:05 -0700
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>><Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hey MIKE!!! Try for just a moment to learn something from
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>others
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>>been there......
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>First of all.... There is no substitute for Horsepower AND
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Altitude....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>From Aviator 1.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Next.. How many times do you want to buy an engine? You
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>already
>>>
>>>
>>>>>did
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>once (Buick) and now you are thinking about saving money by
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>only
>>>
>>>
>>>>>going
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>100 HP?? Let's see, that will be about $5,000 - $10,000.....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>then
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>you will fly it....."Recreationally"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Then after you fly off your 40 hours or so, you might take
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>your
>>
>>
>>>>>wife
>>>>>or
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>daughter or son OR like Magaw did, Took his mom for a ride.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>Then
>>>
>>>
>>>>>you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>decide
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>to go somewhere and take a picnic lunch with you along with
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>some
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>Pepsi's..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Have to have some weight for this example... Oh boy, you're
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>both
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>excited
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>to be flying somewhere for a picnic.. You have discovered a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>neat
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>little
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>place where you can land and there is a small river nearby
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>where
>>>
>>>
>>>>>you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>both
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>can go swimming too.. Man, this is getting fun, all this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Recreational"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>flying eh? So, you hop in your 100 HP Tailwind and head for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>>>>>hills...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You land and enjoy your time..... NOW, it's time to come
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>home.
>>
>>
>>>>>It's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>2:30 pm and damn it's hot.... but soon, you guys will be up
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>high
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>nice cool air flying home, right? Wrong,.... First you have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>successfully takeoff in the DENSITY ALTITUDE from where you
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>are.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>But
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>hey,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>you know your plane, it will be no problem....... You take
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>off
>>
>>
>>>>all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>time
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>to go flying. So you line er up and jam the throttle in to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>>>>>stops....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Away you go......sorta....as you roll, you lean it just a tad
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>for
>>>
>>>
>>>>>more
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>power...and you go and go and go and you aren't really
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>setting
>>>
>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>world
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>on fire with your accelleration. Your ass starts to pucker
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>some
>>
>>
>>>>as
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>barely lift off before having to abort. Now the damn trees
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>are
>>
>>
>>>>>getting
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>real
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>close too and your rate of climb stinks in the heat of the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>day.
>>
>>
>>>>>Whew!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>just made it over the tree's and around the big rock on the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>left.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>It
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>this moment that you will remember all these "devilish"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>emails
>>
>>
>>>>>about
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>putting
>>>>>>>>>the right engine on in the first place. Of course, then you
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>have
>>>
>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>go
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>home
>>>>>>>>>and explain to your wife how you need to spend a bunch more
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>money
>>>
>>>
>>>>>now
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>another engine. But first you have to buy her a bunch of new
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>furniture
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the house so she won't be so pissed off about it.. Of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>course,
>>
>>
>>>>you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>tell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>it's not that big a deal, you can sell the engine you had in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>first
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>place. Gee, how much is that Buick worth??? even with ALL
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>>cool
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>accesories you bought for it??? And then, wow oh wow, now
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>you
>>
>>
>>>>have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>0-200
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>or an 0-235 for sale too. Gotta find someone that really
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>needs
>>
>>
>>>>one
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>those
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>so you can crate it up and ship it somewhere Kinda like
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>Bob
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>Connors....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>( I couldn't resist) sorry Bob.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Just how much time and money do you have that you want to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>waste?
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Just
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>imagine for a moment, that you could have purchased a nice
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>0-320
>>>
>>>
>>>>in
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>first place, just like Eric did...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Weav
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>PS. Hahahahhahaha..... I know, I know..... hahahhaha..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>I'm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>bad,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>bad boy...and a probably not a good role model either. But
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>at
>>>
>>>
>>>>>times,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>like that cute little angel.......trying to save your bacon.
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
>>>>>>>>>To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:50 AM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Ever seen the commercials where the guy has the devil on
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>one
>>
>>
>>>>>>>shoulder
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>an angel on the other. Guess which one Weaver would be?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
>>>>>>>>>>[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>Of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Fred
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Weaver
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:13 PM
>>>>>>>>>>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>><Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Makes no difference...... Power is required....
>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
>>>>>>>>>>To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:23 AM
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>For me this airplane will mostly be used for recreation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>Cross
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>country
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>would be secondary.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
>>>>>>>>>>>[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>Behalf
>>
>>
>>>>Of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Luc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>H.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:00 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Luc H."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>><4luc@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>100 hp is great if your building a Cub or other airplane
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>with
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>single
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>digit
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>wing loading.
>>>>>>>>>>>Luc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:11 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Tailwind-List: Engine for Tailwind
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>><ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I looking to put a Lycoming on my plane. Something
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>around
>>
>>
>>>>100
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>hp.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>don't
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>want to go broke doing it. Help.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Mike NW Illinois
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>_________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>voter
>>
>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>_________________________________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>
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>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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| Subject: | Re: The Tuttercup |
That's the horizontal stab? I checked the dimensions- they're pretty close as is.
----- Original Message -----
From: Earl Luce
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
Remember to increase the stab over the W-10 .
Earl
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Maj
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:03 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
I'm firming up the plan for my project. I've decided to hybridize the Buttercup
and the Tailwind, hence the Tuttercup.
The wing and fuselage from firewall to the seats, will be Buttercup, aft ,
W-10 including the empennage. The plane will be a tri-gear. Fuselage width will
be 42". While my research indicates the leading edge flap may be only marginally
beneficial, I'll use it anyway.
I'm looking at substituting aluminum for steel wherever feasible - flaps, ailerons,
horizontal stabilizer, flippers, rudder, control system components -
to save weight.
Joe Maj
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| Subject: | Re: $$$seats $$$ |
Earl:
Check with your local hot rodders and they may be able to turn you on to an
upholstery man that is more reasonable. If you have no luck I can point you to
two shops that are pretty reasonable.
Paul
Charlevoix, MI
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| Subject: | Re: The Tuttercup |
Joe,
Why not Tailcup, Butterwing?
Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Maj
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
That's the horizontal stab? I checked the dimensions- they're pretty close as
is.
----- Original Message -----
From: Earl Luce
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
Remember to increase the stab over the W-10 .
Earl
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Maj
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:03 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
I'm firming up the plan for my project. I've decided to hybridize the Buttercup
and the Tailwind, hence the Tuttercup.
The wing and fuselage from firewall to the seats, will be Buttercup, aft
, W-10 including the empennage. The plane will be a tri-gear. Fuselage width will
be 42". While my research indicates the leading edge flap may be only marginally
beneficial, I'll use it anyway.
I'm looking at substituting aluminum for steel wherever feasible - flaps,
ailerons, horizontal stabilizer, flippers, rudder, control system components
- to save weight.
Joe Maj
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "John Downing" <frmrjohn@netonecom.net>
Sorry fellas; Marys Birthday that weekend,(8th) just don't dare make it.
Weaver could come in from California quicker that I can make it down in the
Colt. Hey Wally, we would have to put out the pilot light in the tent, if
camping out, hold the Mexican food. JohnD Don"t Archive...
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Earl; You'll have to butter up Jim or Malcoml to get the seats done. JohnD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Earl Luce
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 8:36 PM
To: Tailwind List
Subject: Tailwind-List: $$$seats $$$
I just got back from the upholstery shop with my new TW seats for an
estimate ............holy sh**&
. The guy told me that he would try to keep
it to $1000 but gave no promise . I have to believe that with all the talant
in this group that someone should take up sewing !
Earl Luce
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| Subject: | twheel and control rod |
Malcolm,
Got it all on but the springs. Didn't have time to put those on. that Rick
Crosslin guy showed up. Got to RIDE IN IT instead of work on it. :-) Rick
said the wheel is much better, but he likes the softer one with the big
rubber on it. I taxied it after Rick left and it seemed like it required
considerably less force to turn and had finer graduation. The old one had
2.5 inches at the rudder horn and 2 inches at the wheel. Now it is the same
both places so that had to slow it down some. Also it was binding before
full rudder deflection, and I got that fixed. Pic attached. THANKS RICK,
you don't know how bad I needed that ride.
-Danny
Subject:
RE: N540CJ
From:
Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com
<mailto:Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com?subjectRE:%20N540CJ&replytoC249D2
A44FC0D411BE6500104B62EB796B0FBA@SPRMAIL>
Date:
Fri Sep 17 - 3:40 AM
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
<mailto:Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com?subjectRE:%20N540CJ&replytoC249D2
A44FC0D411BE6500104B62EB796B0FBA@SPRMAIL>
Danny, have you tried the new trim springs and the steering rod?
Malcolm
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| Subject: | Re: The Tuttercup |
Since the front is Buttercup and rear is Tailwind, then just call it Butterwind
! Maybe it will go faster all buttered up like that ! :)
Larry H.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Flamini
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
Joe,
Why not Tailcup, Butterwing?
Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Maj
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
That's the horizontal stab? I checked the dimensions- they're pretty close
as is.
----- Original Message -----
From: Earl Luce
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
Remember to increase the stab over the W-10 .
Earl
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Maj
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:03 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
I'm firming up the plan for my project. I've decided to hybridize the Buttercup
and the Tailwind, hence the Tuttercup.
The wing and fuselage from firewall to the seats, will be Buttercup, aft
, W-10 including the empennage. The plane will be a tri-gear. Fuselage width
will be 42". While my research indicates the leading edge flap may be only marginally
beneficial, I'll use it anyway.
I'm looking at substituting aluminum for steel wherever feasible - flaps,
ailerons, horizontal stabilizer, flippers, rudder, control system components
- to save weight.
Joe Maj
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| Subject: | Re: The Tuttercup |
I have thought that a W10 with the leading edge flaps would have an even better
speed range. Maybe a hidden hinge could be developed for them. Key would be
to keep the weight down.
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry H
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
Since the front is Buttercup and rear is Tailwind, then just call it Butterwind
! Maybe it will go faster all buttered up like that ! :)
Larry H.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Flamini
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
Joe,
Why not Tailcup, Butterwing?
Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Maj
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
That's the horizontal stab? I checked the dimensions- they're pretty close
as is.
----- Original Message -----
From: Earl Luce
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
Remember to increase the stab over the W-10 .
Earl
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Maj
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 7:03 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
I'm firming up the plan for my project. I've decided to hybridize the
Buttercup and the Tailwind, hence the Tuttercup.
The wing and fuselage from firewall to the seats, will be Buttercup,
aft , W-10 including the empennage. The plane will be a tri-gear. Fuselage width
will be 42". While my research indicates the leading edge flap may be only
marginally beneficial, I'll use it anyway.
I'm looking at substituting aluminum for steel wherever feasible - flaps,
ailerons, horizontal stabilizer, flippers, rudder, control system components
- to save weight.
Joe Maj
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