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1. 05:52 AM - Emailing: 107-0753_IMG (Jim and Donna Clement)
2. 05:58 AM - Re: Staying on Top (William Bernard)
3. 06:01 AM - Re: Emailing: 107-0753_IMG (FTLovley@aol.com)
4. 06:02 AM - Fw: Emailing: another TW pic, for sale (Jim and Donna Clement)
5. 06:24 AM - Re: Staying on Top (DaveM)
6. 06:40 AM - Passing Mt. Shasta (DaveM)
7. 06:50 AM - Re: Paint (Keith Dornseif)
8. 06:51 AM - fabric (Paul Holmes)
9. 07:49 AM - Fw: Emailing:staying on top (Jim and Donna Clement)
10. 09:26 AM - Re: Fw: Emailing:staying on top (DaveM)
11. 02:35 PM - Re: Fw: Emailing:staying on top (Jim and Donna Clement)
12. 03:00 PM - Fuselage Jig (CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind)
13. 04:52 PM - Re: fabric (Jim and Donna Clement)
14. 06:12 PM - Re: Staying on Top (George Turner)
15. 06:29 PM - Re: Staying on Top (Jim and Donna Clement)
16. 08:21 PM - Re: Fw: Emailing:staying on top (Fred Weaver)
17. 09:00 PM - Re: Fw: Emailing:staying on top (red)
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| Subject: | Emailing: 107-0753_IMG |
Here is a picture of Forrest Lovleys W9 TW. He lowered his price, if
interested call him. 160 hp, 70 smoh.
952 492 6126
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| Subject: | Re: Staying on Top |
George, I'm glad to know that the weather was VFR (or at least sort of) when you
got to Emporia.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: George Turner
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 6:28 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Staying on Top
Early August I flew VFR on top from Baraboo to Emporia Ks. Had to go as high
as 13000 feet to stay on top. Underneath the clouds their was forecast areas
of IFR.
George.....Phoenix
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| Subject: | Re: Emailing: 107-0753_IMG |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: FTLovley@aol.com
TANX !!!...FTL
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| Subject: | Fw: Emailing: another TW pic, for sale |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
Subject: Emailing: another TW pic, for sale
> Forrest also has some spares such as spinner and a few other things. It is
> 4' wider than a standard TW.
> .call 952 492 6126 price reduced
>
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| Subject: | Re: Staying on Top |
You still were dodging clouds it looks like! Did you have oxygen?
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: George Turner
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 4:28 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Staying on Top
Early August I flew VFR on top from Baraboo to Emporia Ks. Had to go as high
as 13000 feet to stay on top. Underneath the clouds their was forecast areas
of IFR.
George.....Phoenix
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| Subject: | Passing Mt. Shasta |
Finally got the last of my pictures developed and digitized from the Arlington
trip this summer. These are a few taken while going past Mt. Shasta and landing
at Siskyou Co. Airport (which still has a good view of Mt. Shasta in the background).
The fuel flow is reading 7.2 gal/hr. and I was at 2500 RPM. Can't
read the screen of the GPS, but as I recall, we had a bit of a tailwind and were
flat covering the ground at a rapid clip. I have some of crater lake take
a couple hours later, which I will post later.
Dave
N168A
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Keith Dornseif" <keithdornseif@comcast.net>
Thank you every one for the advice. I feel a lot better knowing I did
nothing wrong. I'm just a little green.
Keith Dornseif
keith@dornseif.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Keith Imel
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Paint
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Keith Imel" <keithimel@alaska.net>
Keith,
Spray painting is somewhat of an Art. You can have a perfectly adjusted
paint gun and a proper ratio of paint to thinner and the experienced painter
will make it look like a million dollars while the beginner,,,, well you
know. Thankfully your fuselage only needs good coverage and not a
Championship paint job. Consider it practice for the much more demanding
painting to come.
My perspective Keith I.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Earl Luce" <luceair@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Paint
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Earl Luce" <luceair@frontiernet.net>
>
> Keith,
> Call Jim and Dondi Miller in Ohio . They are the Poly fiber experts
and
> love to talk it . They are the EAA workshop instructors and really know
> there stuff . Call them at 1-877-877-3334 toll free.
> Earl
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith" <keithdornseif@comcast.net>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 10:32 PM
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Paint
>
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Keith" <keithdornseif@comcast.net>
> >
> > Well I got the fuselage painted today. I still have all the small parts
to
> > do yet.
> >
> > It wasn't as easy as I thought it would be. The first challenge was
> getting
> > the plastic shipping ring of the paint bucket. Then after about an hour
> your
> > arm gets mighty tired holding up the spray gun.
> >
> > I'm not real happy with the results. I've got a lot of drips. I messed
> > around with the gun setting and adjusted the amount of reducer but still
> had
> > problems. Is there a trick to getting the paint on the tube nice and
even
> > with no drips? I'm using the Poly Fiber products.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Keith Dornseif
> > keith@dornseif.net
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth
> > Graves
> > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 6:24 PM
> > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
> >
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Kenneth Graves <kbgraves@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Do not hand paint. It took me 14 hours to do all
> > tubing and the Job is not one I'm particularly proud
> > of. An old time A&P said he did them all by hand said
> > spraying wasted to much paint, so I did . What a
> > mistake. I would have gladly paid the extra bucks for
> > a nice smooth job.
> > Ken
> > --- Keith Imel <keithimel@alaska.net> wrote:
> >
> > > The fuselage should be primed and painted right away
> > > after sand blasting before any rust has a chance to
> > > form. Wipe it down with reducer and clean rags to
> > > remove any remaining dust and prime with epoxy
> > > primer. It will stick very well to the sand blasted
> > > surface. I use a small touch up gun to reduce
> > > overspray. Then follow with epoxy paint. My opinion
> > > is that this is better than powder coating. Cheaper
> > > to!
> > > Keith
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Keith
> > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 1:34 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: The Tuttercup
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Keith] I have a question. After the fuselage
> > > has been sand blasted, should it be sanded down
> > > before paint? Or does the paint adhere to the
> > > rougher surface better.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Keith] Keith Dornseif
> > >
> > > [Keith] keith@dornseif.net
> > >
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Allowing for the usual errors does 20 yards of 70" wide ceconite sound about right
for the fuselage and controls?
Thanks in advance.
Paul
pholmes@wmis.net
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| Subject: | Fw: Emailing:staying on top |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
Subject: Emailing:staying on top
> George, top this. Somewhere between Baraboo and Salome AZ. Slightly
broken.
> Jim C
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Emailing:staying on top |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "DaveM" <dmagaw@att.net>
Can't see the altimeter in the photo Jim, but it vaguely looks like around
16,000 ft.--True?
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
Subject: Tailwind-List: Fw: Emailing:staying on top
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:43 AM
> Subject: Emailing:staying on top
>
>
> > George, top this. Somewhere between Baraboo and Salome AZ. Slightly
> broken.
> > Jim C
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Emailing:staying on top |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
Dave, the picture was somewhat dark, Brad at the airport, scanned it and
sent it to me. It shows 16,500 feet. I believe the TW is 6168Y, now owned by
Gary Volkman. It has a shorter 23' wing but still climbs close to 500 fpm at
that altitude and doesn't drag it's tail. I believe the airspeed shows about
130-135 mph. Jim C
----- Original Message -----
From: "DaveM" <dmagaw@att.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Fw: Emailing:staying on top
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "DaveM" <dmagaw@att.net>
>
> Can't see the altimeter in the photo Jim, but it vaguely looks like around
> 16,000 ft.--True?
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 7:48 AM
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Fw: Emailing:staying on top
>
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
>> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:43 AM
>> Subject: Emailing:staying on top
>>
>>
>> > George, top this. Somewhere between Baraboo and Salome AZ. Slightly
>> broken.
>> > Jim C
>> >
>>
>
>
>
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Hey guys,
Yesterday, we started fitting fuselage tubes into our CNC cut jig. Today, we got
the first side tacked. It went much faster than I expected. We are going to
tack the second side tomorrow. In 15 days of work we have built and finished all
of the ribs, and nearly completed the fuse sides. If we keep up with our current
pace, we will have the wings on the fuse in 3 weeks for their mock up.
I've attached a few pictures, and sent more to Matt for the photo archive. The
pics are of the Bill Schunneman fuse jig, Skip welding, and Skip holding the completed
fuse side today.
CJ Kirby
memphistailwind@bellsouth.net
N540CJ
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Paul, I looked for the fabric order but can't seem to find it. 20 yds does sound
right though. Rough cut the four fuselage sides first then do the smaller parts.
Jim C
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Holmes
To: Tailwind-list
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 8:50 AM
Subject: Tailwind-List: fabric
Allowing for the usual errors does 20 yards of 70" wide ceconite sound about
right for the fuselage and controls?
Thanks in advance.
Paul
pholmes@wmis.net
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| Subject: | Re: Staying on Top |
Bill: I had 10 gallons fuel in the reserve tank, and the weather forecast for
Wichita was mostly clear, so I had plenty of fuel to go farther if needed. I
filled the reserve tank after I saw what the weather was like just in case. Didn't
need it.
Dave M. : No I didn't have oxygen. Most of the flight was at 12,500.
Jim C. : You topped me with 16.5K. But my picture was better! Wittman topped
you with 20K with 150hp. The highest I've been is about 15.5K. Then I get silly
with no oxygen. Unlegal too, I think.
Bob Wuilleumier has oxygen and He said He was at 18000 on one trip over Lake
Mich.
George.....Phoenix
William Bernard <billbernard@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
George, I'm glad to know that the weather was VFR (or at least sort of) when you
got to Emporia.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: George Turner
Subject: Tailwind-List: Staying on Top
Early August I flew VFR on top from Baraboo to Emporia Ks. Had to go as high as
13000 feet to stay on top. Underneath the clouds their was forecast areas of
IFR.
George.....Phoenix
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| Subject: | Re: Staying on Top |
The picture wasn't to good but it was worse after it was posted. It must have been
taken about 5-6 years ago with a small cheap camera. Skip had to climb to
17,000 with no oxy on his way back to CA to clear smoke over Lake Tahoe area a
few years ago.I think a O320 TW would easily go over 20,000'
Jim C
----- Original Message -----
From: George Turner
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Staying on Top
Bill: I had 10 gallons fuel in the reserve tank, and the weather forecast for
Wichita was mostly clear, so I had plenty of fuel to go farther if needed.
I filled the reserve tank after I saw what the weather was like just in case.
Didn't need it.
Dave M. : No I didn't have oxygen. Most of the flight was at 12,500.
Jim C. : You topped me with 16.5K. But my picture was better! Wittman topped
you with 20K with 150hp. The highest I've been is about 15.5K. Then I get
silly with no oxygen. Unlegal too, I think.
Bob Wuilleumier has oxygen and He said He was at 18000 on one trip over Lake
Mich.
George.....Phoenix
William Bernard <billbernard@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
George, I'm glad to know that the weather was VFR (or at least sort of) when
you got to Emporia.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: George Turner
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 6:28 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Staying on Top
Early August I flew VFR on top from Baraboo to Emporia Ks. Had to go as
high as 13000 feet to stay on top. Underneath the clouds their was forecast areas
of IFR.
George.....Phoenix
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Emailing:staying on top |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Yeeeeehaaaaaa......
Reminds me of a trip that "Terrible Tailwheel Ted" and I took to Baraboo....
18,000 ft, sniffing the O2, Cruizin' along at a lot of MPH(Well over 225),
sipping 7.6 GPH....but didn't have an opportunity to take a picture of the
instrument panel...Too busy taking pictures of Montana... Sure was cold,
until the heater valve stuck open... Then we gently fried until we could
get on the ground in North Dakota... Gwinner.. Yep Red, it was
Gwinner, ND...non stop from Bonners Ferry, Idaho in 4 hours flat..
Since then, the Cabin Heat Valve has been secured in the "CLOSED"
position.... :) I might change it this winter. hahahhaa.....
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
Subject: Tailwind-List: Fw: Emailing:staying on top
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:43 AM
> Subject: Emailing:staying on top
>
>
> > George, top this. Somewhere between Baraboo and Salome AZ. Slightly
> broken.
> > Jim C
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Emailing:staying on top |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "red" <redswings@reds-headers.com>
Yep, and Winner SD, home of the best pheasant hunting in the USA, they say.
Red
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Fw: Emailing:staying on top
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
<Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>
> Yeeeeehaaaaaa......
> Reminds me of a trip that "Terrible Tailwheel Ted" and I took to
Baraboo....
> 18,000 ft, sniffing the O2, Cruizin' along at a lot of MPH(Well over 225),
> sipping 7.6 GPH....but didn't have an opportunity to take a picture of the
> instrument panel...Too busy taking pictures of Montana... Sure was cold,
> until the heater valve stuck open... Then we gently fried until we could
> get on the ground in North Dakota... Gwinner.. Yep Red, it was
> Gwinner, ND...non stop from Bonners Ferry, Idaho in 4 hours flat..
>
> Since then, the Cabin Heat Valve has been secured in the "CLOSED"
> position.... :) I might change it this winter. hahahhaa.....
> Weav
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 7:48 AM
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Fw: Emailing:staying on top
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com>
> > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:43 AM
> > Subject: Emailing:staying on top
> >
> >
> > > George, top this. Somewhere between Baraboo and Salome AZ. Slightly
> > broken.
> > > Jim C
> > >
> >
>
>
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