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1. 05:54 AM - Re: Weaver: Interesting Reading (Mike Pierzina)
2. 06:14 AM - O-O cowling (Rick)
3. 06:28 AM - Re: O-O cowling (James E. Wagner Jr.)
4. 08:45 AM - (von Allmen Guido)
5. 08:54 AM - Rotary update (Jerry Hey)
6. 12:29 PM - Re: winshield bows (Mike Logback)
7. 12:38 PM - Re: winshield bows (Jim and Donna Clement)
8. 02:04 PM - Re: winshield bows (Luc H.)
9. 02:55 PM - (William Bernard)
10. 02:58 PM - Re: winshield bows (William Bernard)
11. 03:13 PM - Re: winshield bows (Richard Lamb)
12. 03:29 PM - Re: winshield bows (Richard Lamb)
13. 06:55 PM - off subject but, (Alex Frizzell)
14. 08:27 PM - Re: winshield bows (Mike Logback)
15. 08:35 PM - Re: off subject but, (Estelle Danner)
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by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 3 Oct 2004 12:54:11 -0000
| Subject: | Weaver: Interesting Reading |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Mike Pierzina" <planecrazzzy@lycos.com>
Weav,
But in saying that.....You didn't write Do Not Archive....AND you sent back
the WHOLE message....
Look but don't see, hear but don't listen, talk but say nothing...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN FSII/ N381PM
(It will pick up the DNA that I already wrote.)
SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
----- Original Message -----
From: "mytyweav@earthlink.net" <mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Weaver: Interesting Reading
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "mytyweav@earthlink.net" <mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>
> George.... All it really means is to use some common sense and good
> manners... No big deal.
> Weav
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: George Turner tailwind222@yahoo.com
> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 18:30:53 -0700 (PDT)
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Weaver: Interesting Reading
>
>
>
>
> Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote:Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 00:19:03
> -0700
> From: Matt Dralle
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly
> Posting]
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To Brian Alley: At long last it looks like I'll be ready to hang the engine and
prop on O-O to get started on the cowling and other systems. It could take me
a couple of weeks to finish getting the engine buttoned up and hauled out here
to the house.
Would you please start thinking about making a trip to my place to help me with
the cowling? Actually, it'll probably be more like me helping you by getting
you a beer every now and then, 'glas work is my short suit. Let me know what items
need to be purchased before hand, I'll get them delivered here. If you need
to review any pics of the cowl, let me know and I'll send them to you.
Should be a beautiful flight for you this time of year, for sure.
Sorry O-O is taking so long, guys, life has thrown me a few knuckle balls lately,
most of them have hit me on the chin.
Rick
N241SW
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Glad to see you are still in the game Rick. Wags
Do not archive.
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: von Allmen Guido <lapulce@freesurf.ch>
We worked on our project this weekend so some further questions came up.
What kind of fuel cap is most recommended
Which flush Cherry rivets or other brand pop rivets do you use to fix the
different aluminum panels to the door and side walls and all the other
riveted fixes.
Have you tried the 90 adapter for the oil filter for Lyc 0-320 and wich
size of the adaptor plate is best?
Thanks in advance for all these answers. Guido
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I reassembled my engine today without the rotors. Reassembly took
about 2 hours. Here is what the p ported rotary looks like in front
of a Tailwind. It all fits together rather nicely. The rad will go
underneath the engine and the intake runners will go over the top.
The rear engine mount strut is carried up to a place on the firewall
which will require a great deal of stiffening.
If one wanted to do so, a turbo could be substituted for the exhaust
system. The turbo/P-Port combo can generate up to 800 hp. it is
claimed. Just fly straight up for one minute and level off at 12,000.
What do you think, Fred? Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: winshield bows |
Jim, Thanks for the photo of the windscreen bows ( very helpful )..........I noticed
in the pic you have tabs welded on for the cowling, also thought I seen
some other places...........could you give me a run down of the tabs how many
you install at each location and their purpose.......Thanks, Mike
Jim and Donna Clement <168x@merr.com> wrote:
Mike, I found a picture. Jim C
> ATTACHMENT part 2 image/jpeg name= JC9 021.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: winshield bows |
Mike, Explaining that would be like writing a book. Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Logback
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: winshield bows
Jim, Thanks for the photo of the windscreen bows ( very helpful )..........I
noticed in the pic you have tabs welded on for the cowling, also thought I seen
some other places...........could you give me a run down of the tabs how
many you install at each location and their purpose.......Thanks, Mike
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| Subject: | Re: winshield bows |
Yea! So where is that book and accompanied photo CD!!! ;-)
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim and Donna Clement
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: winshield bows
Mike, Explaining that would be like writing a book. Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Logback
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: winshield bows
Jim, Thanks for the photo of the windscreen bows ( very helpful )..........I
noticed in the pic you have tabs welded on for the cowling, also thought I
seen some other places...........could you give me a run down of the tabs how
many you install at each location and their purpose.......Thanks, Mike
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "William Bernard" <billbernard@worldnet.att.net>
>
> We worked on our project this weekend so some further questions came up.
>
> What kind of fuel cap is most recommended
I used a flush type of filler neck the Jim Clement told me about. I got it
from Wicks. It's not expensive, but it needs to be modified to allow for the
attachment to the tank.
> Which flush Cherry rivets or other brand pop rivets do you use to fix
thedifferent aluminum panels to the door and side walls and all the other
riveted fixes.
I used Avex 1/8" rivets to fasten the aluminum to the door frame, but any
blind rivet will do. Aluminum rivets would be plenty strong. If you want
flush rivets, these will likely come from some aircraft supply place, but if
a protruding head is acceptable to you, then a commercial rivet will work.
> Have you tried the 90 adapter for the oil filter for Lyc 0-320 and wich
size of the adaptor plate is best?
I used an adapter made by B&C Specialties of Newton, Kansas. It was
certainly not inexpesnive, but it did allow for the temperature sender,
vernithern and filter. So far, it has worked well.
I hope that this is a bit helpful.
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: winshield bows |
Mike, Jim's right about a book length description. I used over 200 tabs on my tailwind.
Just think of any place you need to attach something to the primary structure
and add tabs. About 4-6 inch spacing is probably adequate for most things.
However many you add, you will wish you had added a few more when final assembly
comes.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Logback
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: winshield bows
Jim, Thanks for the photo of the windscreen bows ( very helpful )..........I
noticed in the pic you have tabs welded on for the cowling, also thought I seen
some other places...........could you give me a run down of the tabs how
many you install at each location and their purpose.......Thanks, Mike
Jim and Donna Clement <168x@merr.com> wrote:
Mike, I found a picture. Jim C
> ATTACHMENT part 2 image/jpeg name JC9 021.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: winshield bows |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <n6228l@earthlink.net>
Mike, Explaining that would be like writing a book. Jim
Exactly!
And even if the Tailwind was the specific theme, such a
book would appeal to a much broader spectrum of people.
I think such a book would sell well.
And the offer to write it still stands...
Richard
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| Subject: | Re: winshield bows |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Richard Lamb <n6228l@earthlink.net>
Jim, Thanks for the photo of the windscreen bows ( very helpful
)..........I noticed in the pic you have tabs welded on for the
cowling, also thought I seen some other places...........could you give
me a run down of the tabs how many you install at each
location and their purpose.......Thanks, Mike
Start thinking "inside out" and the tabs will show you where they go.
In that respect, Jim's photos are priceless.
They show what he's figured out over the course of building (how many?).
The challenge now is for the newbie builder to figure out what he (or
she?) is looking at in the photo.
Why is this detail done that way, and how do I do it?
Pile of steel tube from Dillsburg - $1000
Welding torch - $500
knowing what to do with them - priceless
Richard
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| Subject: | off subject but, |
Seal-Send-Time: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 20:54:23 -0500
Malcolm; A little off subject, but you being a machinist I just had to tell you.
A friend of mine went belly-up on his huge machine shop and auctioned everything
off. I got a 1998 Clausing vertical mill w/powerfeed 4' table for $400, an
old monarch lathe 14" swing/gapbed for $200, also a kabal 12"x5' lathe for $50,
great tight lathe just bad motor, a 4' radial arm drill press, old but excellent
shape for $200, a miller 251 mig welder for $400, a 3x6' steel table with
3 large drill presses w/#3 taper mounted to it for $50 and a ton of misc steel
and tooling including a 14" rotary table for $50. missed out on a lot of other
Items because I had no place to put them. pretty much completed my shop.
"happy as a baby in a candy store". Alex
"do not archive"
----- Original Message -----
From: Lovelace
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Tailwind W 10R
Take I 70 West to South Vienna exit route 54 South. Go through S. V. cross US
40 and Old Osborne is first road on left. (about 1.5 miles) Go 2 miles house
on the left, 12700 Old Osborne.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce E. Butts
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Tailwind W 10R
Malcolm,
I'd like to come if you can give driving instructions. Let me know if you
want me to bring anything.... I am coming from Dublin so no big jaunt for me.
Bruce Butts
Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com wrote:
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
Dan, can you make it on the 10-9?
Malcolm
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan [SMTP:dannyjoe@insightbb.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Tailwind W 10R
Fast Fred,
Yep, Photoshop. While we were playing I though I'd do one. Tailwinds
don't need any help to look good though, especially yours. That classic
look is the hook that kept me coming back. I picked up a tidbit of
information here and there, and now I live, eat and breathe Tailwinds.
Maybe when I get to flying mine this utter obsession will let up some. I
will be getting around to painting mine one of these days; right now I am
working on tail wheel proficiency. I got 3.5 hours in this week in a Cub
and a Champ, hope to get that much more this week. There is no substitute
for good dual instruction, so I am staying after it until I go broke,
which will be soon. I may have to hitch-hike to Malcolms... :-)
-Dan
- do not archive -
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Weaver
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Tailwind W 10R
Dan.... Nice job on the landing gear and struts... Looks pretty damn
good eh? Photo shop?
Weav
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan <mailto:dannyjoe@insightbb.com>
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com <mailto:tailwind-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Tailwind W 10R
Don't need those pesky struts do we?
-Danny
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Conner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 9:41 AM
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com <mailto:tailwind-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Tailwind W 10R
George I like this one better. I bet Weav will
too...................Bob 149
do not archive
>From: George Turner <tailwind222@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Tailwind-List: Tailwind W 10R
>Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:07:55 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Check this out.
>
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| Subject: | Re: winshield bows |
Bill, The repley you gave was very informative...... thats all I was needing to
hear.....Thanks, Mike
William Bernard <billbernard@worldnet.att.net> wrote:Mike, Jim's right about a
book length description. I used over 200 tabs on my tailwind. Just think of any
place you need to attach something to the primary structure and add tabs. About
4-6 inch spacing is probably adequate for most things.
However many you add, you will wish you had added a few more when final assembly
comes.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Logback
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: winshield bows
Jim, Thanks for the photo of the windscreen bows ( very helpful )..........I noticed
in the pic you have tabs welded on for the cowling, also thought I seen
some other places...........could you give me a run down of the tabs how many
you install at each location and their purpose.......Thanks, Mike
Jim and Donna Clement <168x@merr.com> wrote:
Mike, I found a picture. Jim C
> ATTACHMENT part 2 image/jpeg name= JC9 021.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: off subject but, |
HEY ALEX way to go man!!!! bob d.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Frizzell
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 8:54 PM
Subject: Tailwind-List: off subject but,
Malcolm; A little off subject, but you being a machinist I just had to tell you.
A friend of mine went belly-up on his huge machine shop and auctioned everything
off. I got a 1998 Clausing vertical mill w/powerfeed 4' table for $400,
an old monarch lathe 14" swing/gapbed for $200, also a kabal 12"x5' lathe for
$50, great tight lathe just bad motor, a 4' radial arm drill press, old but excellent
shape for $200, a miller 251 mig welder for $400, a 3x6' steel table
with 3 large drill presses w/#3 taper mounted to it for $50 and a ton of misc
steel and tooling including a 14" rotary table for $50. missed out on a lot of
other Items because I had no place to put them. pretty much completed my shop.
"happy as a baby in a candy store". Alex
"do not archive"
----- Original Message -----
From: Lovelace
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Tailwind W 10R
Take I 70 West to South Vienna exit route 54 South. Go through S. V. cross
US 40 and Old Osborne is first road on left. (about 1.5 miles) Go 2 miles house
on the left, 12700 Old Osborne.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce E. Butts
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Tailwind W 10R
Malcolm,
I'd like to come if you can give driving instructions. Let me know if you
want me to bring anything.... I am coming from Dublin so no big jaunt for me.
Bruce Butts
Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com wrote:
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
Dan, can you make it on the 10-9?
Malcolm
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan [SMTP:dannyjoe@insightbb.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Tailwind W 10R
Fast Fred,
Yep, Photoshop. While we were playing I though I'd do one. Tailwinds
don't need any help to look good though, especially yours. That classic
look is the hook that kept me coming back. I picked up a tidbit of
information here and there, and now I live, eat and breathe Tailwinds.
Maybe when I get to flying mine this utter obsession will let up some. I
will be getting around to painting mine one of these days; right now I am
working on tail wheel proficiency. I got 3.5 hours in this week in a Cub
and a Champ, hope to get that much more this week. There is no substitute
for good dual instruction, so I am staying after it until I go broke,
which will be soon. I may have to hitch-hike to Malcolms... :-)
-Dan
- do not archive -
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Weaver
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Tailwind W 10R
Dan.... Nice job on the landing gear and struts... Looks pretty damn
good eh? Photo shop?
Weav
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan <mailto:dannyjoe@insightbb.com>
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com <mailto:tailwind-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Tailwind W 10R
Don't need those pesky struts do we?
-Danny
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Conner
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 9:41 AM
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com <mailto:tailwind-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Tailwind W 10R
George I like this one better. I bet Weav will
too...................Bob 149
do not archive
>From: George Turner <tailwind222@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Tailwind-List: Tailwind W 10R
>Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:07:55 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Check this out.
>
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