---------------------------------------------------------- Tailwind-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/09/04: 29 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:05 AM - N540CJ (CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind) 2. 03:33 AM - Re: Copperstate flyin report (Lovelace) 3. 03:56 AM - Re: N540CJ (Robert Ardis) 4. 04:53 AM - Re: N540CJ (Rick) 5. 06:12 AM - Re: Copperstate flyin report (flamini2) 6. 06:58 AM - Re: Copperstate flyin report (Lovelace) 7. 07:03 AM - Re: Copperstate flyin report (flamini2) 8. 07:29 AM - window (Paul Holmes) 9. 08:09 AM - Re: N540CJ (Stephen Power) 10. 12:42 PM - Re: window (George Turner) 11. 12:42 PM - Re: window (George Turner) 12. 03:16 PM - Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International (Lovelace) 13. 03:40 PM - Re: window (Paul Holmes) 14. 04:02 PM - O-O 10-9-04 (Rick) 15. 04:43 PM - Re: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International (David Lamphere) 16. 04:46 PM - Re: O-O 10-9-04 (Jim and Donna Clement) 17. 04:49 PM - Re: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International (Bruce E. Butts) 18. 05:03 PM - Re: O-O 10-9-04 (Luc H.) 19. 05:10 PM - Ohio gathering (John Downing) 20. 05:32 PM - Re: N540CJ (ROBERT MATTESON) 21. 05:36 PM - Re: O-O 10-9-04 (Rick) 22. 05:43 PM - Re: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International (Lovelace) 23. 06:03 PM - Re: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International (Mcculleyja@aol.com) 24. 06:09 PM - Re: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International (Mcculleyja@aol.com) 25. 06:24 PM - O-O windshield (Rick) 26. 07:31 PM - Re: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International (flamini2) 27. 07:55 PM - Re: Copperstate flyin report (George Turner) 28. 08:17 PM - (Subject was Copperstate.)Fresno flyin (George Turner) 29. 08:34 PM - Re: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International (Brian Alley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:05:16 AM PST US From: "CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind" Subject: Tailwind-List: N540CJ We have finished tacking the fuse. I like working with wood much better! Skip has really become proficient with the TIG welder. We started on the tail feathers today. Hope to have them done next week. We have been thinking about the control stick. Does anyone have thoughts on using a single center stick, with dual throttles on the L/R? We plan on using a CS prop. Looks like a Whirlwind 151 composite. 28lbs! Wow that's light. We love the Whirlwind prop Skip has on his Pitts. Whirlwind is one of our sponsors, and we get questions, and remarks about the prop at every airshow. I cant say enough about the quality, and a 3 blade white Whirlwind will look great with the design of our TW. Also, has anyone flown the TW with one or more of the doors removed? (At low speeds of course). I ask because we will be using it as a photo ship, and hope to remove the right door for the photographers to get air to air photos of Skip performing aerobatics. I guess we will find out if it works in a few months. Does anyone have a heated Piper style bladed pitot tube laying around for sale? What is the best/lightest/strongest material to use for flooring in the cabin, and baggage compartment? Has any one used a dual toe brake set-up, and are there any concerns? Thanks for reading and replying to this long email. I waited until the weekend so I could get some of you guys out of some HoneyDos. CJ Kirby memphistailwind@bellsouth.net N540CJ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:33:58 AM PST US From: "Lovelace" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace" Dennis, are you coming today. We are here waiting on you. Malcolm ----- Original Message ----- From: "flamini2" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "flamini2" > > Weave, > That wouldn't be the field North of Dallas near the Frisco tower? > Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago > > do not archive > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 7:25 PM > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "mytyweav@earthlink.net" > > > > > > > Hey Dave......SAY Hi to EJ.... He is flying the Blue Long EZ N160RG > > We are in Dallas playing with model airplanes > > Weav > > Original Message: > > ----------------- > > From: DaveM dmagaw@att.net > > Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 06:41:40 -0700 > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > > > George: > > Are you going to be able to make the Tailwind flyin next Saturday (16th) > at > > Chandler field Fresno? It may not be a spectacular as Cooperstate, but > > would be good to see you there. > > > > I will be able to give any builder or prospective builder a ride in the > > trike at the tailwind flyin also. > > > > Dave > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: George Turner > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:47 PM > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > > > The EAA Copperstate Flyin started today. I flew down and checked it > out. > > This is a newer airport 40 miles south of the Phoenix airport. 700 > > showplanes are expected and over 100 commercial display tents. Planes > come > > from all over the Western USA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:56:12 AM PST US From: "Robert Ardis" Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: N540CJ --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Robert Ardis" My personal preference is a modified 'Y' for the control stick. I find it much better that Steve's configuration. It could be that I am much heavier than Steve ever thought about and my legs are too large for his turned down 'T'. The center mounted throttle then is fine for pilot or co-pilot. The center located control stick and the center mounted throttle are much easier to buildl and install. >From: "CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind" >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com >To: "Tailwind List" >Subject: Tailwind-List: N540CJ >Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 04:04:08 -0500 > >We have finished tacking the fuse. I like working with wood much better! >Skip has really become proficient with the TIG welder. We started on the >tail feathers today. Hope to have them done next week. >We have been thinking about the control stick. Does anyone have thoughts on >using a single center stick, with dual throttles on the L/R? We plan on >using a CS prop. Looks like a Whirlwind 151 composite. 28lbs! Wow that's >light. We love the Whirlwind prop Skip has on his Pitts. Whirlwind is one >of our sponsors, and we get questions, and remarks about the prop at every >airshow. I cant say enough about the quality, and a 3 blade white Whirlwind >will look great with the design of our TW. >Also, has anyone flown the TW with one or more of the doors removed? (At >low speeds of course). I ask because we will be using it as a photo ship, >and hope to remove the right door for the photographers to get air to air >photos of Skip performing aerobatics. I guess we will find out if it works >in a few months. >Does anyone have a heated Piper style bladed pitot tube laying around for >sale? >What is the best/lightest/strongest material to use for flooring in the >cabin, and baggage compartment? Has any one used a dual toe brake set-up, >and are there any concerns? > >Thanks for reading and replying to this long email. I waited until the >weekend so I could get some of you guys out of some HoneyDos. > >CJ Kirby >memphistailwind@bellsouth.net >N540CJ ><< DCAO0050.JPG >> http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:22 AM PST US From: "Rick" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: N540CJ CJ: Here's a pic of 393RC stick and dual throttles. I absolutely loved right hand stick left hand throttle. I got lots of "Steve didn't do it that way" comments, but it wasn't Steve's airplane, it was mine. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind To: Tailwind List Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:04 AM Subject: Tailwind-List: N540CJ We have finished tacking the fuse. I like working with wood much better! Skip has really become proficient with the TIG welder. We started on the tail feathers today. Hope to have them done next week. We have been thinking about the control stick. Does anyone have thoughts on using a single center stick, with dual throttles on the L/R? We plan on using a CS prop. Looks like a Whirlwind 151 composite. 28lbs! Wow that's light. We love the Whirlwind prop Skip has on his Pitts. Whirlwind is one of our sponsors, and we get questions, and remarks about the prop at every airshow. I cant say enough about the quality, and a 3 blade white Whirlwind will look great with the design of our TW. Also, has anyone flown the TW with one or more of the doors removed? (At low speeds of course). I ask because we will be using it as a photo ship, and hope to remove the right door for the photographers to get air to air photos of Skip performing aerobatics. I guess we will find out if it works in a few months. Does anyone have a heated Piper style bladed pitot tube laying around for sale? What is the best/lightest/strongest material to use for flooring in the cabin, and baggage compartment? Has any one used a dual toe brake set-up, and are there any concerns? Thanks for reading and replying to this long email. I waited until the weekend so I could get some of you guys out of some HoneyDos. CJ Kirby memphistailwind@bellsouth.net N540CJ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:19 AM PST US From: "flamini2" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "flamini2" i am checking the wx right now, how is the rain on the runway? Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lovelace" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace" > > Dennis, are you coming today. We are here waiting on you. > > Malcolm > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "flamini2" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:15 PM > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "flamini2" > > > > Weave, > > That wouldn't be the field North of Dallas near the Frisco tower? > > Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago > > > > do not archive > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 7:25 PM > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "mytyweav@earthlink.net" > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Dave......SAY Hi to EJ.... He is flying the Blue Long EZ N160RG > > > We are in Dallas playing with model airplanes > > > Weav > > > Original Message: > > > ----------------- > > > From: DaveM dmagaw@att.net > > > Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 06:41:40 -0700 > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > > > > > > George: > > > Are you going to be able to make the Tailwind flyin next Saturday (16th) > > at > > > Chandler field Fresno? It may not be a spectacular as Cooperstate, but > > > would be good to see you there. > > > > > > I will be able to give any builder or prospective builder a ride in the > > > trike at the tailwind flyin also. > > > > > > Dave > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: George Turner > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com > > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:47 PM > > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > > > > > > The EAA Copperstate Flyin started today. I flew down and checked it > > out. > > > This is a newer airport 40 miles south of the Phoenix airport. 700 > > > showplanes are expected and over 100 commercial display tents. Planes > > come > > > from all over the Western USA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:01 AM PST US From: "Lovelace" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace" It is still dry here. We had about 10 minutes of light rain. Everything has moved to the South and the sun is out. ----- Original Message ----- From: "flamini2" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "flamini2" > > i am checking the wx right now, how is the rain on the runway? > Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lovelace" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:32 AM > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace" > > > > Dennis, are you coming today. We are here waiting on you. > > > > Malcolm > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "flamini2" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:15 PM > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "flamini2" > > > > > > Weave, > > > That wouldn't be the field North of Dallas near the Frisco tower? > > > Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago > > > > > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 7:25 PM > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "mytyweav@earthlink.net" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Dave......SAY Hi to EJ.... He is flying the Blue Long EZ N160RG > > > > We are in Dallas playing with model airplanes > > > > Weav > > > > Original Message: > > > > ----------------- > > > > From: DaveM dmagaw@att.net > > > > Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 06:41:40 -0700 > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > > > > > > > > > George: > > > > Are you going to be able to make the Tailwind flyin next Saturday > (16th) > > > at > > > > Chandler field Fresno? It may not be a spectacular as Cooperstate, > but > > > > would be good to see you there. > > > > > > > > I will be able to give any builder or prospective builder a ride in > the > > > > trike at the tailwind flyin also. > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: George Turner > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:47 PM > > > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > > > > > > > > > The EAA Copperstate Flyin started today. I flew down and checked it > > > out. > > > > This is a newer airport 40 miles south of the Phoenix airport. 700 > > > > showplanes are expected and over 100 commercial display tents. Planes > > > come > > > > from all over the Western USA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:31 AM PST US From: "flamini2" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "flamini2" Got 26 pages of DUAT to go over at breakfast and then out to the airport, should be there about noon. Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lovelace" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace" > > It is still dry here. We had about 10 minutes of light rain. Everything has > moved to the South and the sun is out. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "flamini2" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:13 AM > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "flamini2" > > > > i am checking the wx right now, how is the rain on the runway? > > Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lovelace" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:32 AM > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace" > > > > > > Dennis, are you coming today. We are here waiting on you. > > > > > > Malcolm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "flamini2" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:15 PM > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "flamini2" > > > > > > > > Weave, > > > > That wouldn't be the field North of Dallas near the Frisco tower? > > > > Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago > > > > > > > > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 7:25 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "mytyweav@earthlink.net" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Dave......SAY Hi to EJ.... He is flying the Blue Long EZ > N160RG > > > > > We are in Dallas playing with model airplanes > > > > > Weav > > > > > Original Message: > > > > > ----------------- > > > > > From: DaveM dmagaw@att.net > > > > > Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 06:41:40 -0700 > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com > > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George: > > > > > Are you going to be able to make the Tailwind flyin next Saturday > > (16th) > > > > at > > > > > Chandler field Fresno? It may not be a spectacular as Cooperstate, > > but > > > > > would be good to see you there. > > > > > > > > > > I will be able to give any builder or prospective builder a ride in > > the > > > > > trike at the tailwind flyin also. > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: George Turner > > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:47 PM > > > > > Subject: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The EAA Copperstate Flyin started today. I flew down and checked > it > > > > out. > > > > > This is a newer airport 40 miles south of the Phoenix airport. 700 > > > > > showplanes are expected and over 100 commercial display tents. > Planes > > > > come > > > > > from all over the Western USA. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:12 AM PST US From: "Paul Holmes" Subject: Tailwind-List: window Does the sliding window on Steve's drawing work ok? (Sheet 9 of 14 date 4-4-67) Paul pholmes@wmis.net ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:28 AM PST US From: "Stephen Power" Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: N540CJ --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Power" Simply flipping up the right window on an old Cessna tail dragger may be less trouble than taking the door off a TW. Those old Cessnas may be 80 kts. slower than a TW with the same power, but they are at least a contender in the photo ship category. >From: "CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind" >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com >To: "Tailwind List" >Subject: Tailwind-List: N540CJ >Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 04:04:08 -0500 > >We have finished tacking the fuse. I like working with wood much better! >Skip has really become proficient with the TIG welder. We started on the >tail feathers today. Hope to have them done next week. >We have been thinking about the control stick. Does anyone have thoughts on >using a single center stick, with dual throttles on the L/R? We plan on >using a CS prop. Looks like a Whirlwind 151 composite. 28lbs! Wow that's >light. We love the Whirlwind prop Skip has on his Pitts. Whirlwind is one >of our sponsors, and we get questions, and remarks about the prop at every >airshow. I cant say enough about the quality, and a 3 blade white Whirlwind >will look great with the design of our TW. >Also, has anyone flown the TW with one or more of the doors removed? (At >low speeds of course). I ask because we will be using it as a photo ship, >and hope to remove the right door for the photographers to get air to air >photos of Skip performing aerobatics. I guess we will find out if it works >in a few months. >Does anyone have a heated Piper style bladed pitot tube laying around for >sale? >What is the best/lightest/strongest material to use for flooring in the >cabin, and baggage compartment? Has any one used a dual toe brake set-up, >and are there any concerns? > >Thanks for reading and replying to this long email. I waited until the >weekend so I could get some of you guys out of some HoneyDos. > >CJ Kirby >memphistailwind@bellsouth.net >N540CJ ><< DCAO0050.JPG >> ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:42:21 PM PST US From: George Turner Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: window Yes. Paul Holmes wrote:Does the sliding window on Steve's drawing work ok? (Sheet 9 of 14 date 4-4-67) Paul pholmes@wmis.net --------------------------------- vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:42:29 PM PST US From: George Turner Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: window Yes. Paul Holmes wrote: Does the sliding window on Steve's drawing work ok? (Sheet 9 of 14 date 4-4-67) Paul pholmes@wmis.net --------------------------------- vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:16:25 PM PST US From: "Lovelace" Subject: Tailwind-List: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace" It was a great day for a fly-in, the weather was a little iffy this morning with about 10 minutes of rain about 9:00 am. After the rain cleared the Tailwinds started coming in and by lunch time we had 9 airplanes including mine. Thanks to Richard Jamieson for cooking breakfast and Lori Doughty for cooking lunch. This was the first fly-in at my place and we will do it again next year. Listed below are the people that attended and what they were flying or driving. Thanks to everyone for attending, this is what makes Tailwinding so fun. Malcolm Jim McCulley, Warrenton Va. Tailwind N-5566 Steve & Lori Doughty, Petersburg MI. Cherokee 180 Bill Bernard, Springfield, Ill. Tailwind N40B Jim Wright, Markleville, In. Hatz 14059 Danny Doolin, Bowling Green, Ky. Chevy P.U. Mike Caplinger, Pt. Pleasant, WV. Tailwind N830Z Dick Alkire, Dayton, OH. Areonca L-3B Ron Hale, Springfield, OH. building Hatz & Tailwind Richard Jamieson, Richland, MI. 88 Volvo & V8 Tailwind Bruce Butts, Dublin, OH. 02 Honda & building a TW Dennis Flamini, Frankfort, ILL. Tailwind N564 DF #53 Dick Brown, Springfield, OH. 94 Astro & building a TW Brian Alley, Hurricane, WV. Tailwind N320 WT Ben Austerman, Casstown, OH Mill Hog & building TW Tony Stevens, Springfield, OH. building BD-4 & TW ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:40:08 PM PST US From: "Paul Holmes" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: window Thanks George. Paul pholmes@wmis.net ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:02:48 PM PST US From: "Rick" Subject: Tailwind-List: O-O 10-9-04 Is this butch or what?! Rick N241SW ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:43:33 PM PST US From: "David Lamphere" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "David Lamphere" Malcolm, I noticed that one of the guys (Jim McCulley) that came to your fly-in (I have noted the name with ******) was from Warrenton, VA.. Warrenton is almost "next door" to me - I go through Warrenton on the way to work! I fly our old 172 out of Culpeper (CJR). I have been building a W10 off and on for the last 6 years and would like to connect up with Jim McCulley if possible- did he leave any address or phone info??? Thanks, Dave Lamphere ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lovelace" Subject: Tailwind-List: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace" > > Malcolm > > ***** Jim McCulley, Warrenton Va. Tailwind N-5566 ******* > Steve & Lori Doughty, Petersburg MI. Cherokee 180 > Bill Bernard, Springfield, Ill. Tailwind N40B > Jim Wright, Markleville, In. Hatz 14059 > Danny Doolin, Bowling Green, Ky. Chevy P.U. > Mike Caplinger, Pt. Pleasant, WV. Tailwind N830Z > Dick Alkire, Dayton, OH. Areonca L-3B > Ron Hale, Springfield, OH. building Hatz & Tailwind > Richard Jamieson, Richland, MI. 88 Volvo & > V8 Tailwind > Bruce Butts, Dublin, OH. 02 Honda & building a TW > Dennis Flamini, Frankfort, ILL. Tailwind N564 DF #53 > Dick Brown, Springfield, OH. 94 Astro & building a TW > Brian Alley, Hurricane, WV. Tailwind N320 WT > Ben Austerman, Casstown, OH Mill Hog & building TW > Tony Stevens, Springfield, OH. building BD-4 & TW > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:46:49 PM PST US From: "Jim and Donna Clement" <168x@merr.com> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: O-O 10-9-04 Looking real good Rick, keep at it. Save last years calendars, I need some new wallpaper for my hanger. Jim C ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick To: Tailwind Discussion Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:58 PM Subject: Tailwind-List: O-O 10-9-04 Is this butch or what?! Rick N241SW ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:49:46 PM PST US From: "Bruce E. Butts" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Bruce E. Butts" Thanks to Malcom for hosting a great fly in. An annual event sounds great! Hopefully one of these years I will be able to fly in! Had a great time talking Tailwinds and picking up some good construction techniques. Who won the "race" race between Dennis and Jim? the 180 hp duel was going on when I had to go. Thanks again, Bruce E. Butts > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:03:47 PM PST US From: "Luc H." <4luc@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: O-O 10-9-04 Looks good! I noticed the windshield isn't as flat as the original O&O, is that for a little more head room? That O-360 should sound real nice. I keep trying to talk Jim into building an IO-540 Tailwind, Fred would buy it as long as it was faster than his. Luc ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick To: Tailwind Discussion Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:58 PM Subject: Tailwind-List: O-O 10-9-04 Is this butch or what?! Rick N241SW ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:10:50 PM PST US From: "John Downing" Subject: Tailwind-List: Ohio gathering --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "John Downing" Looks like you had a great gathering. Its nice to see so many made it in. Dunging out the garage here, so I can assemble the W-10. That higher cruise speed looks like it will make more places a lot closer to home. You guys really lucked out with Richard cooking the breakfast jungle. JohnD --- ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:32:17 PM PST US From: "ROBERT MATTESON" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: N540CJ The lightest material I have found for floors is the material that is used for floor panels in airliners. It is a honeycomb material with fiberglass face sheets and runs about 3/8" thick. It is extreemly rigid, probably as strong as plywood, and is very light. It comes in 4'x8" sheets and can be worked with ordinary wood cutting blades. I don't known of any source details, but I could look into it if there was enough interest. I can purchase it by the sheet through my employer if enough people wanted it to make it worth while to buy a whole sheet. Bob Matteson W-8 N84CD ----- Original Message ----- From: CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind To: Tailwind List Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:04 AM Subject: Tailwind-List: N540CJ We have finished tacking the fuse. I like working with wood much better! Skip has really become proficient with the TIG welder. We started on the tail feathers today. Hope to have them done next week. We have been thinking about the control stick. Does anyone have thoughts on using a single center stick, with dual throttles on the L/R? We plan on using a CS prop. Looks like a Whirlwind 151 composite. 28lbs! Wow that's light. We love the Whirlwind prop Skip has on his Pitts. Whirlwind is one of our sponsors, and we get questions, and remarks about the prop at every airshow. I cant say enough about the quality, and a 3 blade white Whirlwind will look great with the design of our TW. Also, has anyone flown the TW with one or more of the doors removed? (At low speeds of course). I ask because we will be using it as a photo ship, and hope to remove the right door for the photographers to get air to air photos of Skip performing aerobatics. I guess we will find out if it works in a few months. Does anyone have a heated Piper style bladed pitot tube laying around for sale? What is the best/lightest/strongest material to use for flooring in the cabin, and baggage compartment? Has any one used a dual toe brake set-up, and are there any concerns? Thanks for reading and replying to this long email. I waited until the weekend so I could get some of you guys out of some HoneyDos. CJ Kirby memphistailwind@bellsouth.net N540CJ ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:36:54 PM PST US From: "Rick" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: O-O 10-9-04 Luc: Cabin height of O-O is unkown, so I made it same as Tailwind, but front bay is 2" longer and 2" taller than Tailwind, so windshield is sloped much more than W10. The Steve Miller pic of O-O gives a good side shot of the slope of the windshield on the original, some of the pics that are more frontal shots of the original make the windshield look more sloped than it really is. Rick N241SW ----- Original Message ----- From: Luc H. To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 8:02 PM Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: O-O 10-9-04 Looks good! I noticed the windshield isn't as flat as the original O&O, is that for a little more head room? That O-360 should sound real nice. I keep trying to talk Jim into building an IO-540 Tailwind, Fred would buy it as long as it was faster than his. Luc ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick To: Tailwind Discussion Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 3:58 PM Subject: Tailwind-List: O-O 10-9-04 Is this butch or what?! Rick N241SW ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:14 PM PST US From: "Lovelace" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace" no, that is the only info I have. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lamphere" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "David Lamphere" > > Malcolm, > > I noticed that one of the guys (Jim McCulley) that came to your fly-in (I have noted the name with ******) > was from Warrenton, VA.. > Warrenton is almost "next door" to me - I go through Warrenton on the way to work! > I fly our old 172 out of Culpeper (CJR). > > I have been building a W10 off and on for the last 6 years and would like to connect up with > Jim McCulley if possible- did he leave any address or phone info??? > > Thanks, > Dave Lamphere > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lovelace" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 6:14 PM > Subject: Tailwind-List: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International > > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Lovelace" > > > > Malcolm > > > > ***** Jim McCulley, Warrenton Va. Tailwind N-5566 ******* > > Steve & Lori Doughty, Petersburg MI. Cherokee 180 > > Bill Bernard, Springfield, Ill. Tailwind N40B > > Jim Wright, Markleville, In. Hatz 14059 > > Danny Doolin, Bowling Green, Ky. Chevy P.U. > > Mike Caplinger, Pt. Pleasant, WV. Tailwind N830Z > > Dick Alkire, Dayton, OH. Areonca L-3B > > Ron Hale, Springfield, OH. building Hatz & Tailwind > > Richard Jamieson, Richland, MI. 88 Volvo & > > V8 Tailwind > > Bruce Butts, Dublin, OH. 02 Honda & building a TW > > Dennis Flamini, Frankfort, ILL. Tailwind N564 DF #53 > > Dick Brown, Springfield, OH. 94 Astro & building a TW > > Brian Alley, Hurricane, WV. Tailwind N320 WT > > Ben Austerman, Casstown, OH Mill Hog & building TW > > Tony Stevens, Springfield, OH. building BD-4 & TW > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:03:11 PM PST US From: Mcculleyja@aol.com Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Mcculleyja@aol.com In a message dated 10/9/04 6:18:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mlovelace@woh.rr.com writes: > Subj: Tailwind-List: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International Malcolm, We all owe you a whole-hearted THANK YOU for hosting such a great gathering of Tailwinders. It was a real pleasure to meet you and all the other guys. You certainly have an ideal location and facility for such gatherings. I hope you enjoyed it as much as the rest of us seemed to. I'll be looking forward to seeing those Tailwinds you have in construction turn out as beautiful as yours. Jim McCulley N-5566 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:09:32 PM PST US From: Mcculleyja@aol.com Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Mcculleyja@aol.com Dave, Just got home from the Lovelace gathering and saw your message. Would like to meet you. Give me a call anytime at 540-347-9079. Jim McCulley mcculleyja@aol.com In a message dated 10/9/04 7:44:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lamphere@earthlink.net writes: > I noticed that one of the guys (Jim McCulley) that came to your fly-in (I > have noted the name with ******) > was from Warrenton, VA.. > Warrenton is almost "next door" to me - I go through Warrenton on the way to > work! > I fly our old 172 out of Culpeper (CJR). > > I have been building a W10 off and on for the last 6 years and would like to > connect up with > Jim McCulley if possible- did he leave any address or phone info??? > > Thanks, > Dave Lamphere ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:24:16 PM PST US From: "Rick" Subject: Tailwind-List: O-O windshield Luc: Here is a pic that helps show what I described. The frontal shot makes the windshield look much more steeply raked than the profile shot. Rick N241SW ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 07:31:07 PM PST US From: "flamini2" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "flamini2" Bruce, We followed Jim on his way back to Va., had to ask Jim to throttle back to catch him in the climb and then we went full throttle side by side and Jim's is faster by quite a bit. Neither of us had wheel covers and we flew along with him about 15 miles before we turned back. Counting rides and fly-bys and 225nm Chicago to Malcolm's i figure about 500nm today and gassed up with 30.3 gals. 1:15 to Malcolms and 1:30 return. The most fly-bys in recent memory, good job Malcolm!! PS; i have your tape measure and will mail it back to you Mon. Thanks again, Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce E. Butts" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Bruce E. Butts" > > Thanks to Malcom for hosting a great fly in. An annual event sounds > great! Hopefully one of these years I will be able to fly in! > Had a great time talking Tailwinds and picking up some good construction > techniques. Who won the "race" race between Dennis and Jim? the 180 > hp duel was going on when I had to go. > > Thanks again, > Bruce E. Butts > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 07:55:31 PM PST US From: George Turner Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report Dave: Thanks for the invite, but I do not plan to go, although it will be better than Copperstate because of having more Tailwinds. Look forward to seeing you at Indian Hills flyin this winter at Clements Winter Resort. Salome Arizona. George.....Phoenix Do not archive DaveM wrote: George: Are you going to be able to make the Tailwind flyin next Saturday (16th) at Chandler field Fresno? It may not be a spectacular as Cooperstate, but would be good to see you there. I will be able to give any builder or prospective builder a ride in the trike at the tailwind flyin also. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: George Turner Subject: Tailwind-List: Copperstate flyin report The EAA Copperstate Flyin started today. I flew down and checked it out. This is a newer airport 40 miles south of the Phoenix airport. 700 showplanes are expected and over 100 commercial display tents. Planes come from all over the Western USA. ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:11 PM PST US From: George Turner Subject: Tailwind-List: (Subject was Copperstate.)Fresno flyin I am sending this duplicate message to encourage all of us to change the subject line on our replies when appropriate, as the other of this message subject was Copperstate. I should have changed it. Let us all try to change subject lines when needed. George Turner wrote:Dave: Thanks for the invite, but I do not plan to go, although it will be better than Copperstate because of having more Tailwinds. Look forward to seeing you at Indian Hills flyin this winter at Clements Winter Resort. Salome Arizona. George.....Phoenix Do not archive DaveM wrote: George: Are you going to be able to make the Tailwind flyin next Saturday (16th) at Chandler field Fresno? It may not be a spectacular as Cooperstate, but would be good to see you there. ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 08:34:50 PM PST US From: Brian Alley Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Saturday Fly-in at Lovelace International --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Brian Alley Malcom, Thanks for a great day, good food and lots of Tailwinds. Your projects look great. I can't wait to get at my new project. Glad to see everyone and hope to do it again next year. ===== BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT) CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES 304-872-7938 shop 304-562-6800 home How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?