---------------------------------------------------------- Tailwind-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 10/13/04: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:07 AM - Re: Re: [TailwindForum] Saturday Fly-in at Lovelac (Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com) 2. 05:00 AM - Strut to wing intersection W10 fairings... (Thomas Barnes) 3. 07:14 AM - Re: Strut to wing intersection W10 fairings... (flamini2) 4. 10:59 AM - Re: Re: [TailwindForum] Saturday Fly-in at Lovelac e Internati... (Mcculleyja@aol.com) 5. 11:17 AM - Re: Re: [TailwindForum] Saturday Fly-in at Lovelac (Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com) 6. 11:34 AM - Re: Re: [TailwindForum] Saturday Fly-in at Lovelac e Internati... (Stephen Doughty) 7. 12:04 PM - Re: Re: [TailwindForum] Saturday Fly-in at Lovelac e Internati... (Mcculleyja@aol.com) 8. 12:28 PM - Re: Re: [TailwindForum] Saturday Fly-in at Lovelac e Internati... (Stephen Doughty) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:07:11 AM PST US From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com e Internatio... Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: [TailwindForum] Saturday Fly-in at Lovelac e Internatio... --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com Jim, wow that is moving, what was your ground speed on the way home. That is about 184 MPH average for the trip. Malcolm > -----Original Message----- > From: Mcculleyja@aol.com [SMTP:Mcculleyja@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 6:47 PM > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: [TailwindForum] Saturday Fly-in at > Lovelace Internatio... > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Mcculleyja@aol.com > > Dennis, > > I used 29.9 gallons in 3.7 Tach time for my 591nm round trip distance, but > as > you know I didn't do any rides or local area flying. > > Jim McCulley > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "flamini2" > > > > Malcolm, > > Your Tailwind really impressed me with the takeoff from your grass strip > > with passenger Lori. > > If you have not already posted, how about some info on engine, prop, > > weights, etc. > > Looks like you could not do better with your next 3 Tailwinds, keep us > > posted. > > > > Also Jim and Bill and others, did you check fuel used when you got home? > > Mine was 500nm and 30.6 gals in a real world lots of takeoffs and > fly-bys > > Tailwind world. > > > > Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:55 AM PST US Subject: Tailwind-List: Strut to wing intersection W10 fairings... From: Thomas Barnes 10/13/2004 06:00:41 Hi TW listers, Just wondering if anyone out there makes, or would be interested in making, fairings for the wing strut to wing intersection... and, for those that have them, has anyone done any tests to determine what performance gain there was by fairing this part of the structure ? I'm guessing 2 mph or so... Thanks, Thomas ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:20 AM PST US From: "flamini2" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Strut to wing intersection W10 fairings... Tom, I removed and made a flat pattern of the fairing at one of the last fly-ins and it is a really easy part to make. If you want i could place it on file in the yahoo group or send it direct to you. Only GOD knows if they help the speed ! Dennis Flamini N564DF race #53 Chicago ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Barnes To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:05 AM Subject: Tailwind-List: Strut to wing intersection W10 fairings... Hi TW listers, Just wondering if anyone out there makes, or would be interested in making, fairings for the wing strut to wing intersection... and, for those that have them, has anyone done any tests to determine what performance gain there was by fairing this part of the structure ? I'm guessing 2 mph or so... Thanks, Thomas ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:59:48 AM PST US From: Mcculleyja@aol.com Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: [TailwindForum] Saturday Fly-in at Lovelac e Internati... --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Mcculleyja@aol.com Hi Malcolm, The GPS ground speed got up to a high of 197 MPH for about 50 to 75 miles near the end of the return trip after I was finally able to climb to 6,500 feet from the 3,500 msl I had to stay at until that point due to the solid overcast about 1,000 above me. I had hoped to climb to 10,000 or higher for the trip but the cloud cover was solid overcast most of the way and was so turbulent that I couldn't run any faster down low. Thanks again for hosting such a great bunch of TW enthusiasts at your wonderful Lovelace International! BTW, the honey is about the best I've ever tasted. Since you build such pretty TW's, are you also a bee keeper? Jim In a message dated 10/13/04 7:09:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com writes: > Jim, wow that is moving, what was your ground speed on the way home. That is > about 184 MPH average for the trip. > > Malcolm ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:17:07 AM PST US From: Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com e Internati... Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: [TailwindForum] Saturday Fly-in at Lovelac e Internati... --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com Glad you could make it, hope we can do it next year. The honey was compliments of Steve & Lori Doughty (Cherokee 180 & Tailwind builder). > -----Original Message----- > From: Mcculleyja@aol.com [SMTP:Mcculleyja@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:59 PM > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: [TailwindForum] Saturday Fly-in at > Lovelac e Internati... > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Mcculleyja@aol.com > > Hi Malcolm, > > The GPS ground speed got up to a high of 197 MPH for about 50 to 75 miles > near the end of the return trip after I was finally able to climb to 6,500 > feet > from the 3,500 msl I had to stay at until that point due to the solid > overcast > about 1,000 above me. I had hoped to climb to 10,000 or higher for the > trip > but the cloud cover was solid overcast most of the way and was so > turbulent > that I couldn't run any faster down low. > > Thanks again for hosting such a great bunch of TW enthusiasts at your > wonderful Lovelace International! BTW, the honey is about the best I've > ever tasted. > Since you build such pretty TW's, are you also a bee keeper? > > Jim > > In a message dated 10/13/04 7:09:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com writes: > > > Jim, wow that is moving, what was your ground speed on the way home. > That is > > about 184 MPH average for the trip. > > > > Malcolm > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:34:22 AM PST US From: "Stephen Doughty" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: [TailwindForum] Saturday Fly-in at Lovelac e Internati... --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty" Jim, glad you like the honey, it comes from our own bees. In retrospect of your return flight, our return flight back north to Michigan was severe clear. We climbed up to 4500 with a gps speed of about 122 mph. On the flight down we were at 3500 with a speed as high as 159 mph at times. Steve -in Michigan >From: Mcculleyja@aol.com >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: [TailwindForum] Saturday Fly-in at Lovelac >e Internati... >Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:59:17 EDT > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Mcculleyja@aol.com > >Hi Malcolm, > >The GPS ground speed got up to a high of 197 MPH for about 50 to 75 miles >near the end of the return trip after I was finally able to climb to 6,500 >feet >from the 3,500 msl I had to stay at until that point due to the solid >overcast >about 1,000 above me. I had hoped to climb to 10,000 or higher for the >trip >but the cloud cover was solid overcast most of the way and was so turbulent >that I couldn't run any faster down low. > >Thanks again for hosting such a great bunch of TW enthusiasts at your >wonderful Lovelace International! BTW, the honey is about the best I've >ever tasted. > Since you build such pretty TW's, are you also a bee keeper? > >Jim > >In a message dated 10/13/04 7:09:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com writes: > > > Jim, wow that is moving, what was your ground speed on the way home. >That is > > about 184 MPH average for the trip. > > > > Malcolm > > Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:25 PM PST US From: Mcculleyja@aol.com Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: [TailwindForum] Saturday Fly-in at Lovelac e Internati... --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Mcculleyja@aol.com Steve, Glad to learn where the honey originated. You certainly travel in class with two brands of honey on board, one named Lori but the other with no name! Now all you need is to do this in your future Tailwind---then you'll never wipe off the big grin! BTW, thanks for sharing one of your honeys!! Jim In a message dated 10/13/04 2:37:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, usaviator1@hotmail.com writes: > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty" com> > > Jim, glad you like the honey, it comes from our own bees. In retrospect of > your return flight, our return flight back north to Michigan was severe > clear. We climbed up to 4500 with a gps speed of about 122 mph. On the > flight down we were at 3500 with a speed as high as 159 mph at times. > > Steve -in Michigan > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:28:14 PM PST US From: "Stephen Doughty" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: [TailwindForum] Saturday Fly-in at Lovelac e Internati... --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty" Jim, you are welcome. We have been bee keepers for 3 years now, my father kept bees for 72 years before he passed away. That is when we took it up. The one named Lori is really a good sport about going to airplane stuff with me. She wants to get her pilots license in the future. btw, Lovelace International is the shortest strip I have ever been in and out of, I am glad he doesn't have any trees near either end! Steve >From: Mcculleyja@aol.com >Reply-To: tailwind-list@matronics.com >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Re: [TailwindForum] Saturday Fly-in at Lovelac >e Internati... >Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:04:00 EDT > >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Mcculleyja@aol.com > >Steve, > >Glad to learn where the honey originated. You certainly travel in class >with >two brands of honey on board, one named Lori but the other with no name! >Now >all you need is to do this in your future Tailwind---then you'll never wipe >off the big grin! > >BTW, thanks for sharing one of your honeys!! > >Jim > >In a message dated 10/13/04 2:37:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >usaviator1@hotmail.com writes: > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Stephen Doughty" > > com> > > > > Jim, glad you like the honey, it comes from our own bees. In >retrospect >of > > your return flight, our return flight back north to Michigan was severe > > clear. We climbed up to 4500 with a gps speed of about 122 mph. On >the > > flight down we were at 3500 with a speed as high as 159 mph at times. > > > > Steve -in Michigan > > > >