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1. 12:19 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
2. 06:18 AM - Wood gear leg stiffener (Jerry Hey)
3. 06:28 AM - Forwarded Message that appeared on Fly Rotary yesterday (Jerry Hey)
4. 07:09 AM - Re: Forwarded Message that appeared on Fly Rotary yesterday (Jerry Mahurin)
5. 07:54 AM - Re: Tailwind-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 02/01/05 (Dan Youngquist)
6. 12:56 PM - Starting battery size (Guido von Allmen)
7. 01:41 PM - Re: Starting battery size (Fred Weaver)
8. 02:22 PM - Re: Wood gear leg stiffener (Jim Clement)
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| Subject: | Wood gear leg stiffener |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
Jim C, are using the wood stiffeners with the new gear legs? If so,
what is the shape and size of the wood piece. N6PJ had plywood
that was planed down to to a sharp trailing edge that was glassed in
place. No gear leg fairing was required. Unfortunately this piece was
distorted when the gear legs started to collapse. It would probably
be easier to just install regular fairings at this time. Jerry
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| Subject: | Forwarded Message that appeared on Fly Rotary yesterday |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
Check this out if you are interested. If not, that is what the
delete button is for. Jerry
Begin forwarded message:
> Aero-Views: Congressmen + Pricey Resort = TFR
> TFRs Continue To Be Exploited For Corrupt, Non-Security
> Reasons
> By ANN Senior Correspondent Kevin R.C. "Hognose" O'Brien
>
> To hear the TSA (referred to herein as the security mafia) tell
> it, Temporary Flight Restrictions are vital to national security.
> Security-based TFRs (as opposed to those sensible TFRs around, say,
> wildfires, to let the firefighters work) have a long and sordid
> history. Two might-as-well-be-permanent TFRs over Disney theme
> parks illustrate something everybody understands: American
> legislators are for sale, it's only the price that is in
> question.
>
> The TFR over West Virginia this weekend may
> be an example of another unjustified TFR, but in this case, the
> motive seems to be peace and quiet for a playland retreat for
> select Congressional tuskers.
>
> A gaggle of Congressional names and staffers, wives, girlfriends
> and boyfriends is descending on a ritzy resort,The Greenbrier, for
> a weekend of R&R, and, uh, yeah, policy, that's it, policy. I
> guess we can tell it's fiscally conservative Republicans and not
> free-spending Democrats, because they're going to Greenbrier in
> winter when rates are lower: a mere $1,372 a day for the cheapest
> suite. In season, that would be $1,852, so I guess Frist, Hastert
> and the boys want us to believe they are saving us almost $500 each
> by not waiting till July to unwind. Why, if three of them go now
> instead of in August, they've saved enough to buy a GI a set of
> Interceptor body armor.
>
> This picture, from The Greenbrier website, shows what your hard
> working solons are up to this weekend. It's easy to see how the
> presence of mere peasants buzzing about in airplanes could detract
> from this vital national activity:
>
> The Greenbrier tells us that "our holistic treatments harness
> natural essences and minerals to offer a distinctive rejuvenating
> experience. Our highly personalized packages are designed to reduce
> stress, enhance your lifestyle, and let you enjoy the pampering you
> deserve." Ah, that's just what Congress needs -- as if they weren't
> rapaciously dedicated to "enhancing their lifestyles" 24/7/365. I
> don't know about you, but I don't think they need any rejuvenation.
> Since they flip-flopped on term limits ten years ago, the only way
> we get any fresh blood in there is when one of them finally expires
> -- when old age and a lifetime of evil deeds overcome the best
> efforts of the military doctors who should be treating our
> troops.
>
> But hey, maybe Congress deserves a break too. While the
> inclement weather has closed the outdoor pool (Alas! Alack!) you
> will be glad to know that there is an Olympic-size indoor pool
> "adjacent to the ... Rhododendron Spa Cafe, where guests may enjoy
> their favorite beverages." I bet nobody's favorite is the $6 a
> bottle vodka that military Exchange Service Class Six stores flog
> to the GIs, who can't afford, shall we say, Congressional standard
> booze. As The Greenbrier (the snooty capitalized article is theirs)
> says, there's nothing like the "warmth and refreshment of an indoor
> pool." I think I actually saw this one in the DVD of Spartacus,
> where some old Roman pervert is asking Tony Curtis how he feels
> about oysters and snails. There's probably a lot of that going on
> at The Greenbrier this weekend:
>
> Now, some have speculated that as the President himself may
> attend this gathering, (1) there may actually be some work getting
> done, and (2) a TFR is necessary to protect the President. Some
> have also suggested that President or no, (3) a TFR is necessary to
> protect the precious Congressmen (and staffers, wives, girlfriends,
> boyfriends, etc).
>
> Perhaps they are working: It's hard to imagine the abstemious
> President Bush indulging in the sybaritic bacchanalia of
> Congressmen, after all. But we're already paying for offices (and
> staffers, and oysters, and... don't get me started). Judging from
> the amounts they spend on office maintenance and decoration, it's
> unlikely that there's some long-overlooked problem with their
> offices' fitness for the purpose. As far as the necessity of TFRs
> to protect precious politicians, does anyone remember this phrase:
> "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created
> equal..."?
>
> If you answered YES to the question above, it's a safe bet that
> you don't work in Washington.
>
> The politicians, and the payroll patriots who serve them, have
> forgotten that they are mere citizens who are raised up, not by
> divine right, nor by a satrap's grant of patents of nobility, but
> by the collective will of the common people, as expressed in an
> election. They have lost the understanding that they, too, are
> common people. As a result, they are unwilling to share the risks
> that are imposed upon those common people, and instead insulate
> themselves behind various mechanisms of isolation. Like TFRs.
>
> This crossroads of moral and physical cowardice is inhabited by
> politicians of both parties -- I recall Sen. Mark Dayton closing
> his Washington office and taking headlong flight when he feared
> terrorists might strike Washington. I can never see his quivering
> mug these days without a chorus of "Brave, Brave Sir Robin" playing
> in my head.
>
> I'll accept that the President is a special case -- not because
> he is more elevated than a citizen, but because our Constitution
> makes him a highly symbolic Head of State as well as a routinely
> replaceable Head of Government. An attack on the President --
> especially an attack that succeeded in its evil intent -- would
> damage the nation at home and abroad. But would an attack on a
> bunch of partying politicians? It is hard to imagine a less
> critical, less useful, more dispensable component of the body
> politic. And The Greenbrier, for all its self-love, is hardly the
> World Trade Center. Millions of Americans knew victims of the WTC
> attack. The Greenbrier could get thrown off the planet tomorrow and
> it wouldn't be missed much. Not being much of a Rhododendron Bar
> kind of guy, I didn't know it existed till it started messing with
> my airspace.
>
> And amid all this speculation about attacks, no one but pilots,
> and the other 2% of the country that took High School physics and
> passed, understands that the GA-hostile TFRs don't even do the job
> -- they keep small planes, that have been proven harmless in
> attempted suicide attacks, out, and let commercial jets, that have
> been proven effective in attempted suicide attacks, in. It's a
> solution that could only have been crafted in the opium haze of
> Washington, and a perfect parallel to rules that require screeners
> to ignore groups of more than three glowering Arabs, but dump
> grandmothers out of their wheelchairs.
>
> I don't expect we will ever see a common-sense approach to TFRs.
> Indeed, this crowd in Congress (and the crows that follows them,
> whoever it may be) will continue to have them deployed for personal
> convenience (like this one), and to sell them to commercial
> interests (like the Disney anti-banner-towing perma-TFRs). You can
> send Mister Smith to Congress, but real life is not like Hollywood.
> Before you can say Jack Robinson, Smith is in the Rhododendron Bar
> complaining about how hard it is to schedule a good massage
> time.
>
> You can bet that the Greenbrier pictures will be in my mind on
> April 15 (for our foreign readers, that's tax reckoning day for
> us). And when my eyes bug out at the number that Tony, my
> accountant, brings to me, I'll think of these Congressmen who
> selflessly avoided the high season to reduce my tax bite, and I'll
> know it's all worthwhile.
> FMI: www.greenbrier.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Forwarded Message that appeared on Fly Rotary yesterday |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Mahurin <jerrymahurin@gmail.com>
............and did anyone know that the Greenbriar is a converted VA
hospital......???
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 09:27:39 -0500, Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net> wrote:
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
>
> Check this out if you are interested. If not, that is what the
> delete button is for. Jerry
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > Aero-Views: Congressmen + Pricey Resort = TFR
> > TFRs Continue To Be Exploited For Corrupt, Non-Security
> > Reasons
> > By ANN Senior Correspondent Kevin R.C. "Hognose" O'Brien
> >
> > To hear the TSA (referred to herein as the security mafia) tell
> > it, Temporary Flight Restrictions are vital to national security.
> > Security-based TFRs (as opposed to those sensible TFRs around, say,
> > wildfires, to let the firefighters work) have a long and sordid
> > history. Two might-as-well-be-permanent TFRs over Disney theme
> > parks illustrate something everybody understands: American
> > legislators are for sale, it's only the price that is in
> > question.
> >
> > The TFR over West Virginia this weekend may
> > be an example of another unjustified TFR, but in this case, the
> > motive seems to be peace and quiet for a playland retreat for
> > select Congressional tuskers.
> >
> > A gaggle of Congressional names and staffers, wives, girlfriends
> > and boyfriends is descending on a ritzy resort,The Greenbrier, for
> > a weekend of R&R, and, uh, yeah, policy, that's it, policy. I
> > guess we can tell it's fiscally conservative Republicans and not
> > free-spending Democrats, because they're going to Greenbrier in
> > winter when rates are lower: a mere $1,372 a day for the cheapest
> > suite. In season, that would be $1,852, so I guess Frist, Hastert
> > and the boys want us to believe they are saving us almost $500 each
> > by not waiting till July to unwind. Why, if three of them go now
> > instead of in August, they've saved enough to buy a GI a set of
> > Interceptor body armor.
> >
> > This picture, from The Greenbrier website, shows what your hard
> > working solons are up to this weekend. It's easy to see how the
> > presence of mere peasants buzzing about in airplanes could detract
> > from this vital national activity:
> >
> > The Greenbrier tells us that "our holistic treatments harness
> > natural essences and minerals to offer a distinctive rejuvenating
> > experience. Our highly personalized packages are designed to reduce
> > stress, enhance your lifestyle, and let you enjoy the pampering you
> > deserve." Ah, that's just what Congress needs -- as if they weren't
> > rapaciously dedicated to "enhancing their lifestyles" 24/7/365. I
> > don't know about you, but I don't think they need any rejuvenation.
> > Since they flip-flopped on term limits ten years ago, the only way
> > we get any fresh blood in there is when one of them finally expires
> > -- when old age and a lifetime of evil deeds overcome the best
> > efforts of the military doctors who should be treating our
> > troops.
> >
> > But hey, maybe Congress deserves a break too. While the
> > inclement weather has closed the outdoor pool (Alas! Alack!) you
> > will be glad to know that there is an Olympic-size indoor pool
> > "adjacent to the ... Rhododendron Spa Cafe, where guests may enjoy
> > their favorite beverages." I bet nobody's favorite is the $6 a
> > bottle vodka that military Exchange Service Class Six stores flog
> > to the GIs, who can't afford, shall we say, Congressional standard
> > booze. As The Greenbrier (the snooty capitalized article is theirs)
> > says, there's nothing like the "warmth and refreshment of an indoor
> > pool." I think I actually saw this one in the DVD of Spartacus,
> > where some old Roman pervert is asking Tony Curtis how he feels
> > about oysters and snails. There's probably a lot of that going on
> > at The Greenbrier this weekend:
> >
> > Now, some have speculated that as the President himself may
> > attend this gathering, (1) there may actually be some work getting
> > done, and (2) a TFR is necessary to protect the President. Some
> > have also suggested that President or no, (3) a TFR is necessary to
> > protect the precious Congressmen (and staffers, wives, girlfriends,
> > boyfriends, etc).
> >
> > Perhaps they are working: It's hard to imagine the abstemious
> > President Bush indulging in the sybaritic bacchanalia of
> > Congressmen, after all. But we're already paying for offices (and
> > staffers, and oysters, and... don't get me started). Judging from
> > the amounts they spend on office maintenance and decoration, it's
> > unlikely that there's some long-overlooked problem with their
> > offices' fitness for the purpose. As far as the necessity of TFRs
> > to protect precious politicians, does anyone remember this phrase:
> > "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created
> > equal..."?
> >
> > If you answered YES to the question above, it's a safe bet that
> > you don't work in Washington.
> >
> > The politicians, and the payroll patriots who serve them, have
> > forgotten that they are mere citizens who are raised up, not by
> > divine right, nor by a satrap's grant of patents of nobility, but
> > by the collective will of the common people, as expressed in an
> > election. They have lost the understanding that they, too, are
> > common people. As a result, they are unwilling to share the risks
> > that are imposed upon those common people, and instead insulate
> > themselves behind various mechanisms of isolation. Like TFRs.
> >
> > This crossroads of moral and physical cowardice is inhabited by
> > politicians of both parties -- I recall Sen. Mark Dayton closing
> > his Washington office and taking headlong flight when he feared
> > terrorists might strike Washington. I can never see his quivering
> > mug these days without a chorus of "Brave, Brave Sir Robin" playing
> > in my head.
> >
> > I'll accept that the President is a special case -- not because
> > he is more elevated than a citizen, but because our Constitution
> > makes him a highly symbolic Head of State as well as a routinely
> > replaceable Head of Government. An attack on the President --
> > especially an attack that succeeded in its evil intent -- would
> > damage the nation at home and abroad. But would an attack on a
> > bunch of partying politicians? It is hard to imagine a less
> > critical, less useful, more dispensable component of the body
> > politic. And The Greenbrier, for all its self-love, is hardly the
> > World Trade Center. Millions of Americans knew victims of the WTC
> > attack. The Greenbrier could get thrown off the planet tomorrow and
> > it wouldn't be missed much. Not being much of a Rhododendron Bar
> > kind of guy, I didn't know it existed till it started messing with
> > my airspace.
> >
> > And amid all this speculation about attacks, no one but pilots,
> > and the other 2% of the country that took High School physics and
> > passed, understands that the GA-hostile TFRs don't even do the job
> > -- they keep small planes, that have been proven harmless in
> > attempted suicide attacks, out, and let commercial jets, that have
> > been proven effective in attempted suicide attacks, in. It's a
> > solution that could only have been crafted in the opium haze of
> > Washington, and a perfect parallel to rules that require screeners
> > to ignore groups of more than three glowering Arabs, but dump
> > grandmothers out of their wheelchairs.
> >
> > I don't expect we will ever see a common-sense approach to TFRs.
> > Indeed, this crowd in Congress (and the crows that follows them,
> > whoever it may be) will continue to have them deployed for personal
> > convenience (like this one), and to sell them to commercial
> > interests (like the Disney anti-banner-towing perma-TFRs). You can
> > send Mister Smith to Congress, but real life is not like Hollywood.
> > Before you can say Jack Robinson, Smith is in the Rhododendron Bar
> > complaining about how hard it is to schedule a good massage
> > time.
> >
> > You can bet that the Greenbrier pictures will be in my mind on
> > April 15 (for our foreign readers, that's tax reckoning day for
> > us). And when my eyes bug out at the number that Tony, my
> > accountant, brings to me, I'll think of these Congressmen who
> > selflessly avoided the high season to reduce my tax bite, and I'll
> > know it's all worthwhile.
> > FMI: www.greenbrier.com
> >
> >
>
>
>
--
Jerry L. Mahurin
Lugoff, SC
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Dan Youngquist <dpy@sdf.lonestar.org>
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, cgalley@qcbc.org wrote:
> 5606 besides getting sticky also is a good fire starter.
Why on earth do we use flammable brake fluid in airplanes? That seems
like a really bad idea.
-Dan
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| Subject: | Starting battery size |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Guido von Allmen <lapulce@freesurf.ch>
Question for all of you who live in colder aerias.
What size of battery do you recommend for a 0-320 powered TW ? 25,30,40
AH or more.
Thanks for your suggestions. Guido
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| Subject: | Re: Starting battery size |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Guido.... I use a Concord RG25XC and will probably not ever change to
anything else again. I use the same size battery in both the Tailwind
(0-360) and the Rocket (IO-540) They seem to do a great job of cranking and
if used somewhat regularly, they last for several years.
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guido von Allmen" <lapulce@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Tailwind-List: Starting battery size
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Guido von Allmen
<lapulce@freesurf.ch>
>
> Question for all of you who live in colder aerias.
> What size of battery do you recommend for a 0-320 powered TW ? 25,30,40
> AH or more.
> Thanks for your suggestions. Guido
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wood gear leg stiffener |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim Clement" <168x@merr.com>
I fastened wood onto the back side. Just guessing, at the top it is 3 1/2"
wide and the bottom 2 1/2" wide. Any kind of wood will work, no knots. Jim
C
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Hey" <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
Subject: Tailwind-List: Wood gear leg stiffener
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Hey <j-winddesigns@thegrid.net>
>
> Jim C, are using the wood stiffeners with the new gear legs? If so,
> what is the shape and size of the wood piece. N6PJ had plywood that
> was planed down to to a sharp trailing edge that was glassed in place. No
> gear leg fairing was required. Unfortunately this piece was distorted
> when the gear legs started to collapse. It would probably be easier to
> just install regular fairings at this time. Jerry
>
>
>
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