Tailwind-List Digest Archive

Mon 02/07/05


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:46 AM - newbie wing questions (Troy Moore)
     2. 06:58 AM - Re: newbie wing questions (PullSomeGs@aol.com)
     3. 07:02 AM - Re: newbie wing questions (M Willson)
     4. 07:08 AM - Re: newbie wing questions (Ruhnke, Mike)
     5. 07:27 AM - Tailwind By Sun-n-fun (PullSomeGs@aol.com)
     6. 08:05 AM - Re: Tailwind By Sun-n-fun (DaveM)
     7. 09:18 AM - Re: Fw: gear leg fairings (Bob Danner)
     8. 04:50 PM - Re: newbie wing questions (Alex Frizzell)
     9. 08:14 PM - Re: Update on 540CJ (red)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:46:03 AM PST US
    Subject: newbie wing questions
    From: Troy Moore <troy_lee_moore@sbcglobal.net>
    --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Troy Moore <troy_lee_moore@sbcglobal.net> I am a first time builder in the middle of rib construction. I am not quite sure of the best way to proceed with mounting the ribs to the spars, getting correct alignment etc. Does anyone have tips on how to get everything aligned properly? If there is a misalignment or twist in the wing can this be corrected during skinning, and if so how? I have searched the archives and read the T.T. articles on the subject, but would like some more input before I dive in. Thanks, Troy


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    Time: 06:58:47 AM PST US
    From: PullSomeGs@aol.com
    Subject: Re: newbie wing questions
    Troy, Unfortunately this won't help you much, but Bill Scheunemann makes a wing kit that comes with cradles for the spars. The front and rear spar sits in two cradles that were made with a CNC machine to be perfectly level. All we had to do was put them on a flat table and then drop the spars in them and we had a perfectly straight wing. Two of us built all the ribs in two days and then spent two more getting them glued to the spars and ready to skin. Skinning them took longer than building them... If someone on the list doesn't have the measurements already, let me know and I will get the differences in spar heights for level for you... Good Luck... Skip Skip Stewart Airshows PullSomeGs@aol.com _www.SkipStewartAirshows.com_ (http://www.skipstewartairshows.com/) 901-355-4100


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    Time: 07:02:30 AM PST US
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    From: M Willson <mike_tailwind@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: newbie wing questions
    Check out issues 12-14 of the Tailwind Times. They are available on Jerry Hey's website (www.j-winddesigns.com). It has some good articles about building the wings. Troy Moore <troy_lee_moore@sbcglobal.net> wrote:--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Troy Moore I am a first time builder in the middle of rib construction. I am not quite sure of the best way to proceed with mounting the ribs to the spars, getting correct alignment etc. Does anyone have tips on how to get everything aligned properly? If there is a misalignment or twist in the wing can this be corrected during skinning, and if so how? I have searched the archives and read the T.T. articles on the subject, but would like some more input before I dive in. Thanks, Troy ---------------------------------


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    Time: 07:08:08 AM PST US
    Subject: newbie wing questions
    From: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com>
    --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Ruhnke, Mike" <ruhnkem@rayovac.com> I bought Tony's books before I started my project. That gave me a good over-all resource. In one of his books he had a method of using two straight edges laid across the front and rear spars. One straight edge at the inboard end and one at the tip end. Looking from the inboard straight edge and sighting the tip straightedge you could be assured you had no twist. When applying the top skin is the critical time. With only the bottom skin on the wing will still twist a little. But once the top skin is on forget it. Mike NW Illinois -----Original Message----- From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Troy Moore Subject: Tailwind-List: newbie wing questions --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Troy Moore <troy_lee_moore@sbcglobal.net> I am a first time builder in the middle of rib construction. I am not quite sure of the best way to proceed with mounting the ribs to the spars, getting correct alignment etc. Does anyone have tips on how to get everything aligned properly? If there is a misalignment or twist in the wing can this be corrected during skinning, and if so how? I have searched the archives and read the T.T. articles on the subject, but would like some more input before I dive in. Thanks, Troy


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    Time: 07:27:24 AM PST US
    From: PullSomeGs@aol.com
    Subject: Tailwind By Sun-n-fun
    It has been our goal since we started this project in September to have it flying by Sun-n-fun. I will be using it as a Chase Plane for my Airshow business. C.J. is my Crew Chief and will be the pilot of the Tailwind. You guys are right that it is a big undertaking and will take a lot of work. I think if you look at the plane now it looks more like five years work than five months. I have been putting in many twelve hour days and have had C.J assisting me much of the time. For the last few weeks I have had another friend Blake Prosser assisting. I have also acquired many sponsors who have assisted in several ways. Bill Scheunemann's wing kit and fuse jigs are incredible. Brian Alley's carbon parts are high quality. We will also have a Blue Mountain EFIS sport and autopilot, full vaccuum panel in the right seat by Blue Angle Aviation, EIS engine system from Grand Rapids Technologies, Three blade constant speed prop from Whirlwind, 175hp custom IO-320 built by Mike Moore at Avworks racing engines. And many other cool things. Hope to see you at Sun-n-fun.... Skip Skip Stewart Airshows PullSomeGs@aol.com _www.SkipStewartAirshows.com_ (http://www.skipstewartairshows.com/) 901-355-4100


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    Time: 08:05:29 AM PST US
    From: "DaveM" <dmagaw@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Tailwind By Sun-n-fun
    I hope you are successful and timely, and would really like to hear how that engine & prop performs on that tailwind. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: PullSomeGs@aol.com To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 7:26 AM Subject: Tailwind-List: Tailwind By Sun-n-fun It has been our goal since we started this project in September to have it flying by Sun-n-fun. I will be using it as a Chase Plane for my Airshow business. C.J. is my Crew Chief and will be the pilot of the Tailwind. You guys are right that it is a big undertaking and will take a lot of work. I think if you look at the plane now it looks more like five years work than five months. I have been putting in many twelve hour days and have had C.J assisting me much of the time. For the last few weeks I have had another friend Blake Prosser assisting. I have also acquired many sponsors who have assisted in several ways. Bill Scheunemann's wing kit and fuse jigs are incredible. Brian Alley's carbon parts are high quality. We will also have a Blue Mountain EFIS sport and autopilot, full vaccuum panel in the right seat by Blue Angle Aviation, EIS engine system from Grand Rapids Technologies, Three blade constant speed prop from Whirlwind, 175hp custom IO-320 built by Mike Moore at Avworks racing engines. And many other cool things. Hope to see you at Sun-n-fun.... Skip Skip Stewart Airshows PullSomeGs@aol.com www.SkipStewartAirshows.com 901-355-4100


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    Time: 09:18:38 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Danner" <edanner@jvlnet.com>
    Subject: Re: gear leg fairings
    Hi All the p.v.c. gear legs are holding up very well on the trike nothing has come loose yet after two years of butt ugly use .some good landings and some not so good . a bit of dis coloring on the nose gear leg were some fuel driped on it. if you want to taper the gear leg cut it any way you like and glue it back togather . thats what i did on the nose gear leg no taper i cut it down to 3in. from 4in. sanded the inside to a knife edge and glue it back togather with p.v.c. cement use the clear cement not the purple! works good for me . it was Jims idea to use this stuff and he was right agian as he usually is . and i did prime the gear legs with cromemate and use the minamail expanding foam also . the nose gear strutt cover dont fare in to the wheel pants very well i put a collar on mine its ok i guess . Bob Danner ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Conrad To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Tailwind-List: gear leg fairings I still like the tapered look you can make with wood. Dave Conrad On Saturday, February 5, 2005, at 05:13 PM, Jim Clement wrote: Here is the address for the PVC streamline fairings. Great Stuff is foam in a spray can. Jim C ----- Original Message ----- From: Earl Luce To: Tailwind List Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 11:36 AM Subject: Tailwind-List: gear leg fairings I just received a pair of gear leg fairings from STREAM- LINE FAIRINGS , 2320 Chesley rd. North Port , Fl 34288 phone 941-423-3591 for the Buttercup as suggested by Jim C. They are perfect for the Tailwind or any other Wittman gear leg . They have large for the main and small for the nose gear . Price was quite reasonable $ 39.95 a pair .. Earl Luce/ N.Y. #N 18263 # NX 264WM #


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    Time: 04:50:25 PM PST US
    From: "Alex Frizzell" <CARRXW10@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: newbie wing questions
    Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:44:26 -0600 Troy, After I built my ribs I temp. installed them on the main spar and the rear spar, all bunched up together, then I got the main and rear spar parallel with each other and clamped them down. then I sanded all the ribs together so that they would be all symmetrical. then I just spread them out to where they were to go on the spars w/glue. everything appears to be straight so far. Alex ----- Original Message ----- From: Troy Moore<mailto:troy_lee_moore@sbcglobal.net> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com<mailto:tailwind-list@matronics.com> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:42 AM Subject: Tailwind-List: newbie wing questions --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Troy Moore <troy_lee_moore@sbcglobal.net<mailto:troy_lee_moore@sbcglobal.net>> I am a first time builder in the middle of rib construction. I am not quite sure of the best way to proceed with mounting the ribs to the spars, getting correct alignment etc. Does anyone have tips on how to get everything aligned properly? If there is a misalignment or twist in the wing can this be corrected during skinning, and if so how? I have searched the archives and read the T.T. articles on the subject, but would like some more input before I dive in. Thanks, Troy tailwind-list@matronics.com<mailto:tailwind-list@matronics.com> http://www.matronics.com/subscription<http://www.matronics.com/subscription> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Tailwind-List.htm<http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Tailwind-List.htm> http://www.matronics.com/search<http://www.matronics.com/search> http://www.matronics.com/browse/tailwind-list<http://www.matronics.com/browse/tailwind-list> http://www.matronics.com/digest/tailwind-list<http://www.matronics.com/digest/tailwind-list> http://www.matronics.com/archives<http://www.matronics.com/archives> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare<http://www.matronics.com/photoshare> http://www.matronics.com/tailwind-list<http://www.matronics.com/tailwind-list> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists<http://www.matronics.com/emaillists> report> http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contribution>


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    Time: 08:14:59 PM PST US
    From: "red" <redswing@mcn.org>
    Subject: Re: Update on 540CJ
    We will do that--hope to be there with our Tailwind. Is your Tailwind really going to have a 540 in it? ; ) Sort of like a Racket? Red ----- Original Message ----- From: CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 9:35 PM Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Update on 540CJ Yeah Red, That sounds like a challenge to me. We'll see you guys at SnF. Look for the Pitts, and the Tailwind on display, with matching paint designs that say SkipStewartAirshows on them. Just go to where you see the large crowds gathering after Skip flies his routine at the airshow. :-) CJ Kirby memphistailwind@bellsouth.net N540CJ




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