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1. 04:36 AM - Re: Springs (Rick)
2. 04:51 AM - Re: Springs (William Bernard)
3. 04:55 AM - Re: Springs (Bob Danner)
4. 04:59 AM - Re: Springs (William Bernard)
5. 05:46 AM - Re: Reno flight (dmagaw@att.net)
6. 06:47 AM - Fly-in Plans (George Turner)
7. 07:42 AM - Re: Springs (Eric Schlanser)
8. 07:59 AM - Re: Springs (Fred Weaver)
9. 08:57 AM - trim servos (Jim Clement)
10. 03:49 PM - Re: Springs (Jerry Mahurin)
11. 07:18 PM - Re: Springs (Eric Schlanser)
12. 08:32 PM - Re: Fly-in Plans (dmagaw@att.net)
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Rick" <rcaviate@infionline.net>
Fred: Some of us like the springs, and some of us do some things just not to
do them the same way the RV guys do them, and some of us do things just
because we're every bit as ornery as you are and we're dammit gonna do it
the way we want. Having said that, I may have to use a motor for the O-O
rudder trim 'cause the flat gear takes up the space I need, probably springs
for roll and pitch. Hate flyin' an airplane even a little bit out of trim.
Rick
N241SW
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
<Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>
> Dear Sir.... Only one little servo required, not THREE. Very LOW $$$
> Extremely reliable and a fabulous record of service for about 25 years.
The
> weight is a few ounces... Wake up and smell the roses...
> Weav
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Mahurin" <jerrymahurin@gmail.com>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 1:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
>
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Mahurin
> <jerrymahurin@gmail.com>
> >
> > Weav, et al,
> >
> > .......I'll rise to the bait (pot stirring...)....
> >
> > There is the matter of $$$ in case you haven't priced three MAC
> > servos and stuff to run 'em. I haven't weighed 'em, but I know
> > electric motors ain't light and they are stuck way out on the end of
> > long moment arms which are gonna play with your CG more than the
> > mechanical ones located in the cabin closer to the CG. I may be a
> > real old Geezer, but I still rather have the reliability of a
> > mechanical system....., no switches or dirty contacts, broken shorted
> > wires , etc.....
> >
> > I built electric servo's for my KR from remote mirror motors for just
> > a few bucks. You can see my efforts at http://kr-builder.org . But
> > in the finaly analysis I prefer mechanical trim over electric.......
> > My W-10 will have three axis mechanical trim....(with springs)...
> >
> > I've stirred the pot enough........gonna head for the foxhole now......
> >
> > Keep on keeping on,
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:05:55 -0800, Fred Weaver <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > CJ.... I continue to be baffled somewhat why Tailwind builders don't
> make
> > > the move to a MAC servo (Ray Allen Company now) to eliminate all the
> trim
> > > BS. The servo only needs a wire going to the elevator to position a
tab.
> > > This is the system used on tons of RV's and other machines. I'm
> currently
> > > using it on both the Rocket and my Rans S7. A simple rocker switch on
> the
> > > panel or the trim buttons on the top of a stick do the deed.
Eliminates
> all
> > > the mechanical stuff used to spring load the pitch stuff. Saves quite
a
> bit
> > > of weight to...
> > > Just had to stir the pot some.....
> > > Weav
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind
> > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 6:47 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes Eric I do still need them. Bob Danner was kind enough to offer to
go
> to
> > > town and find some for me. If he is unsuccessful, then I would really
> like
> > > your help.
> > > CJ Kirby
> > > memphistailwind@bellsouth.net
> > > N540CJ
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jerry L. Mahurin
> > Lugoff, SC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Fred, one comment about the MAC servo: The elevator is pretty thin in cross section
compared to that of an RV-*. There would also have to be a hard platform
built in to mount the servo. There is also no tab on the elevator.
One thing I've thought about, although it still uses springs, is to mount a MAC
servo between the seats and use it to move the springs. The system would be more
similar to what is in the W-8 and would work well (I think) with a system
designed by Brian Alley. It would get the trim lever out of the way.
More stuff for the pot...
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Weaver
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
CJ.... I continue to be baffled somewhat why Tailwind builders don't make the
move to a MAC servo (Ray Allen Company now) to eliminate all the trim BS. The
servo only needs a wire going to the elevator to position a tab. This is the
system used on tons of RV's and other machines. I'm currently using it on both
the Rocket and my Rans S7. A simple rocker switch on the panel or the trim
buttons on the top of a stick do the deed. Eliminates all the mechanical stuff
used to spring load the pitch stuff. Saves quite a bit of weight to...
Just had to stir the pot some.....
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
Yes Eric I do still need them. Bob Danner was kind enough to offer to go to
town and find some for me. If he is unsuccessful, then I would really like your
help.
CJ Kirby
memphistailwind@bellsouth.net
N540CJ
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Trim ? what the heck is that ? Bob D.
----- Original Message -----
From: William Bernard
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
Fred, one comment about the MAC servo: The elevator is pretty thin in cross section
compared to that of an RV-*. There would also have to be a hard platform
built in to mount the servo. There is also no tab on the elevator.
One thing I've thought about, although it still uses springs, is to mount a MAC
servo between the seats and use it to move the springs. The system would be
more similar to what is in the W-8 and would work well (I think) with a system
designed by Brian Alley. It would get the trim lever out of the way.
More stuff for the pot...
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Weaver
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
CJ.... I continue to be baffled somewhat why Tailwind builders don't make
the move to a MAC servo (Ray Allen Company now) to eliminate all the trim BS.
The servo only needs a wire going to the elevator to position a tab. This is
the system used on tons of RV's and other machines. I'm currently using it on
both the Rocket and my Rans S7. A simple rocker switch on the panel or the trim
buttons on the top of a stick do the deed. Eliminates all the mechanical stuff
used to spring load the pitch stuff. Saves quite a bit of weight to...
Just had to stir the pot some.....
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 6:47 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
Yes Eric I do still need them. Bob Danner was kind enough to offer to go
to town and find some for me. If he is unsuccessful, then I would really like
your help.
CJ Kirby
memphistailwind@bellsouth.net
N540CJ
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Luc, and all, I've attached a photo of Brian's trim. The servo could mount on the
support tube and push on the slider. The other end of the long pushrod attaches
to one side of the elevator pushrod clevis.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Luc Hermange
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
Fred
What type of trim system would you use, trim tab or springs and where would you
put the servo??
http://www.rayallencompany.com/ Trim systems $235 to $255 (servo, clevis/push rod, pos indicator and switch)
Fred Weaver <Mytyweav@earthlink.net> wrote:
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
Dear Sir.... Only one little servo required, not THREE. Very LOW $$$
Extremely reliable and a fabulous record of service for about 25 years. The
weight is a few ounces... Wake up and smell the roses...
Weav
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Bill Glad your trip went well. Hope you took some pictures.
Last few days in the valley have been mostly cloudy up here and this weekend is
not projected to be much better. As usual, the only free day I have to do some
flying is Sunday and its forecasted to rain ;(
Dave
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Bill Glad your trip went well. Hope you took some pictures.
Last few days in the valley have been mostly cloudy up here and this weekend is
not projected to be much better. As usual, the only free day I have to do some
flying is Sunday and its forecasted to rain ;(
Dave
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If the weather is ok, who is planning on comming to the Indian Hills fly-in other
than myself and Jim?
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1st week-end of March. Jim has ordered warm dry weather, no wind. Be there or
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Luc, This is an idea I was interested in doing. However, I have a limited amount
of building time and every change I make adds another month. So I put it aside
as optional if time permits. It could also be retrofitted after the plane is
flying.
Older Steve Wittman plans show the W-8 trim control lever attached onto the aft
circumference of the circular flap handle guide tube next to the pilot's elbow
and more out of the way perhaps. Another option is to put the servo behind the
pilot under the baggage compartment. Same place as some put an autopilot servo
and some place their electric flap motor. There's another idea for development
for someone.
Eric
William Bernard <billbernard@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Luc, and all, I've attached a photo of Brian's trim. The servo could mount on the
support tube and push on the slider. The other end of the long pushrod attaches
to one side of the elevator pushrod clevis.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Luc Hermange
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
Fred
What type of trim system would you use, trim tab or springs and where would you
put the servo??
http://www.rayallencompany.com/ Trim systems $235 to $255 (servo, clevis/push rod, pos indicator and switch)
Fred Weaver <Mytyweav@earthlink.net> wrote:
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
Dear Sir.... Only one little servo required, not THREE. Very LOW $$$
Extremely reliable and a fabulous record of service for about 25 years. The
weight is a few ounces... Wake up and smell the roses...
Weav
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
Like I said before Rick...I'm not knockin' the spring setup other than to
say it has some limitations and some inconveniences. Some of which can
simply be resolved by going to a newer system. I believe some of the
builders just don't know what exists out there in today's products. They go
strictly to the plan and then of course have to put up with the stuff most
of us have had to do for years. I encourage everyone to build whatever they
want. I could care less what they do to go flying and put on that smile.
Just trying to let folks know there is another solution that works
terrific...
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick" <rcaviate@infionline.net>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Rick" <rcaviate@infionline.net>
>
> Fred: Some of us like the springs, and some of us do some things just not
to
> do them the same way the RV guys do them, and some of us do things just
> because we're every bit as ornery as you are and we're dammit gonna do it
> the way we want. Having said that, I may have to use a motor for the O-O
> rudder trim 'cause the flat gear takes up the space I need, probably
springs
> for roll and pitch. Hate flyin' an airplane even a little bit out of trim.
> Rick
> N241SW
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 4:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
>
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> >
> > Dear Sir.... Only one little servo required, not THREE. Very LOW $$$
> > Extremely reliable and a fabulous record of service for about 25 years.
> The
> > weight is a few ounces... Wake up and smell the roses...
> > Weav
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jerry Mahurin" <jerrymahurin@gmail.com>
> > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 1:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
> >
> >
> > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Mahurin
> > <jerrymahurin@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > Weav, et al,
> > >
> > > .......I'll rise to the bait (pot stirring...)....
> > >
> > > There is the matter of $$$ in case you haven't priced three MAC
> > > servos and stuff to run 'em. I haven't weighed 'em, but I know
> > > electric motors ain't light and they are stuck way out on the end of
> > > long moment arms which are gonna play with your CG more than the
> > > mechanical ones located in the cabin closer to the CG. I may be a
> > > real old Geezer, but I still rather have the reliability of a
> > > mechanical system....., no switches or dirty contacts, broken shorted
> > > wires , etc.....
> > >
> > > I built electric servo's for my KR from remote mirror motors for just
> > > a few bucks. You can see my efforts at http://kr-builder.org . But
> > > in the finaly analysis I prefer mechanical trim over electric.......
> > > My W-10 will have three axis mechanical trim....(with springs)...
> > >
> > > I've stirred the pot enough........gonna head for the foxhole
now......
> > >
> > > Keep on keeping on,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:05:55 -0800, Fred Weaver
<Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > CJ.... I continue to be baffled somewhat why Tailwind builders
don't
> > make
> > > > the move to a MAC servo (Ray Allen Company now) to eliminate all the
> > trim
> > > > BS. The servo only needs a wire going to the elevator to position a
> tab.
> > > > This is the system used on tons of RV's and other machines. I'm
> > currently
> > > > using it on both the Rocket and my Rans S7. A simple rocker switch
on
> > the
> > > > panel or the trim buttons on the top of a stick do the deed.
> Eliminates
> > all
> > > > the mechanical stuff used to spring load the pitch stuff. Saves
quite
> a
> > bit
> > > > of weight to...
> > > > Just had to stir the pot some.....
> > > > Weav
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind
> > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 6:47 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes Eric I do still need them. Bob Danner was kind enough to offer
to
> go
> > to
> > > > town and find some for me. If he is unsuccessful, then I would
really
> > like
> > > > your help.
> > > > CJ Kirby
> > > > memphistailwind@bellsouth.net
> > > > N540CJ
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jerry L. Mahurin
> > > Lugoff, SC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim Clement" <jc168x@tds.net>
One thing to be aware of if using a trim servo on a control surface to move
a trim tab. If for some reason the servo linkage were to disconnect, the
trim tab can start flutter of the control surface, such as a elevator or
aileron. Jim C
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Mahurin <jerrymahurin@gmail.com>
......Amen.....!!!
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 07:58:39 -0800, Fred Weaver <Mytyweav@earthlink.net> wrote:
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
>
> Like I said before Rick...I'm not knockin' the spring setup other than to
> say it has some limitations and some inconveniences. Some of which can
> simply be resolved by going to a newer system. I believe some of the
> builders just don't know what exists out there in today's products. They go
> strictly to the plan and then of course have to put up with the stuff most
> of us have had to do for years. I encourage everyone to build whatever they
> want. I could care less what they do to go flying and put on that smile.
> Just trying to let folks know there is another solution that works
> terrific...
> Weav
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick" <rcaviate@infionline.net>
> To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 4:31 AM
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
>
> > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Rick" <rcaviate@infionline.net>
> >
> > Fred: Some of us like the springs, and some of us do some things just not
> to
> > do them the same way the RV guys do them, and some of us do things just
> > because we're every bit as ornery as you are and we're dammit gonna do it
> > the way we want. Having said that, I may have to use a motor for the O-O
> > rudder trim 'cause the flat gear takes up the space I need, probably
> springs
> > for roll and pitch. Hate flyin' an airplane even a little bit out of trim.
> > Rick
> > N241SW
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Fred Weaver" <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 4:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
> >
> >
> > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Fred Weaver"
> > <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > >
> > > Dear Sir.... Only one little servo required, not THREE. Very LOW $$$
> > > Extremely reliable and a fabulous record of service for about 25 years.
> > The
> > > weight is a few ounces... Wake up and smell the roses...
> > > Weav
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jerry Mahurin" <jerrymahurin@gmail.com>
> > > To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 1:48 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Jerry Mahurin
> > > <jerrymahurin@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > Weav, et al,
> > > >
> > > > .......I'll rise to the bait (pot stirring...)....
> > > >
> > > > There is the matter of $$$ in case you haven't priced three MAC
> > > > servos and stuff to run 'em. I haven't weighed 'em, but I know
> > > > electric motors ain't light and they are stuck way out on the end of
> > > > long moment arms which are gonna play with your CG more than the
> > > > mechanical ones located in the cabin closer to the CG. I may be a
> > > > real old Geezer, but I still rather have the reliability of a
> > > > mechanical system....., no switches or dirty contacts, broken shorted
> > > > wires , etc.....
> > > >
> > > > I built electric servo's for my KR from remote mirror motors for just
> > > > a few bucks. You can see my efforts at http://kr-builder.org . But
> > > > in the finaly analysis I prefer mechanical trim over electric.......
> > > > My W-10 will have three axis mechanical trim....(with springs)...
> > > >
> > > > I've stirred the pot enough........gonna head for the foxhole
> now......
> > > >
> > > > Keep on keeping on,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:05:55 -0800, Fred Weaver
> <Mytyweav@earthlink.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > CJ.... I continue to be baffled somewhat why Tailwind builders
> don't
> > > make
> > > > > the move to a MAC servo (Ray Allen Company now) to eliminate all the
> > > trim
> > > > > BS. The servo only needs a wire going to the elevator to position a
> > tab.
> > > > > This is the system used on tons of RV's and other machines. I'm
> > > currently
> > > > > using it on both the Rocket and my Rans S7. A simple rocker switch
> on
> > > the
> > > > > panel or the trim buttons on the top of a stick do the deed.
> > Eliminates
> > > all
> > > > > the mechanical stuff used to spring load the pitch stuff. Saves
> quite
> > a
> > > bit
> > > > > of weight to...
> > > > > Just had to stir the pot some.....
> > > > > Weav
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind
> > > > > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 6:47 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes Eric I do still need them. Bob Danner was kind enough to offer
> to
> > go
> > > to
> > > > > town and find some for me. If he is unsuccessful, then I would
> really
> > > like
> > > > > your help.
> > > > > CJ Kirby
> > > > > memphistailwind@bellsouth.net
> > > > > N540CJ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jerry L. Mahurin
> > > > Lugoff, SC
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Jerry L. Mahurin
Lugoff, SC
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CJ - True Value had the springs and I got two, 55 cents apiece. They are only 3
inches long, a quarter of an inch less than specified. Otherwise they are what
the plans call for. They work OK. Do you want them? Eric
Eric Schlanser <eschlanser@yahoo.com> wrote:I will visit the store tonight or this
weekend and let you know what I find...
CJ Kirby Memphis Tailwind <memphistailwind@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Yes Eric I do still need them. Bob Danner was kind enough to offer to go to town
and find some for me. If he is unsuccessful, then I would really like your help.
CJ Kirby
memphistailwind@bellsouth.net
N540CJ
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My son and I. Red Hamilton and Marilyn. Dennis Vest and his wife Barbara. Probably
Fred and Ted?
I am also talking with a T-18 owner Bill Cardoza, but that is iffy at best.
It would be good if Darrell could come, and Wilson, Ivan and other tailwind owners.
Dave Magaw
-------------- Original message from George Turner <tailwind222@yahoo.com>: --------------
If the weather is ok, who is planning on comming to the Indian Hills fly-in other
than myself and Jim?
George Turner <tailwind222@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tailwind fly-in at Jim Clement's Hanger, Indian Hills Airpark, Salome, Arizona,
1st week-end of March. Jim has ordered warm dry weather, no wind. Be there or
be square.
2AZ1Indian Hills Airpark
Salome, Arizona, USA
FAA INFORMATION EFFECTIVE 20 JANUARY 2005
Location
FAA Identifier: 2AZ1
Lat/Long: 33-45-33.1110N / 113-36-55.7450W
33-45.551850N / 113-36.929083W
33.7591975 / -113.6154847
(estimated)
Elevation: 1866 ft.
Runway Information
Runway 8/26
Dimensions: 3000 x 40 ft. / 914 x 12 m
Surface: asphalt/dirt
RY 08/26 ASPH BEGINS APCH END OF RY 26 FOR A DISTANCE OF 2558 FT, REMAINING 442
FT OF RY IS DIRT.
Runway edge markings: RY 26 DSPLCD THLD MKD WITH CHEVRONS.
RUNWAY 8 RUNWAY 26
Traffic pattern: leftright
Displaced threshold: no200 ft.
Markings: NSTD, in fair conditionNSTD, in fair condition
Obstructions: none15 ft. road, 47 ft. from runway
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My son and I. Red Hamilton and Marilyn. Dennis Vest and his wife Barbara. Probably
Fred and Ted?
I am also talking with a T-18 owner Bill Cardoza, but that is iffy at best.
It would be good if Darrell could come, and Wilson, Ivan and other tailwind owners.
Dave Magaw
-------------- Original message from George Turner tailwind222@yahoo.com: --------------
If the weather is ok, who is planning on comming to the Indian Hills fly-in other
than myself and Jim?
George Turner tailwind222@yahoo.com wrote:
Tailwind fly-in at Jim Clement's Hanger, Indian Hills Airpark, Salome, Arizona,
1st week-end of March. Jim has ordered warm dry weather, no wind. Be there or
be square.
<IMG height=180 alt="Aerial photo of 2AZ1 (Indian Hills Airpark)" src="http://66.226.83.248/ap/04858" width=240 border=0><IMG height=192 src="http://www.azoutback.com/kickin.gif" width=288>
2AZ1
Indian Hills Airpark
Salome, Arizona, USA
<H3>FAA INFORMATION EFFECTIVE 20 JANUARY 2005</H3>
<H3>Location</H3>
FAA Identifier:
2AZ1
Lat/Long:
33-45-33.1110N / 113-36-55.7450W
33-45.551850N / 113-36.929083W
33.7591975 / -113.6154847
(estimated)
Elevation:
1866 ft.
<H3>Runway Information</H3>
<H4>Runway 8/26</H4>
Dimensions:
3000 x 40 ft. / 914 x 12 m
Surface:
asphalt/dirt
RY 08/26 ASPH BEGINS APCH END OF RY 26 FOR A DISTANCE OF 2558 FT, REMAINING 442
FT OF RY IS DIRT.
Runway edge markings:
RY 26 DSPLCD THLD MKD WITH CHEVRONS.
RUNWAY 8
RUNWAY 26
Traffic pattern:
left
right
Displaced threshold:
no
200 ft.
Markings:
NSTD, in fair condition
NSTD, in fair condition
Obstructions:
none
15 ft. road, 47 ft. from runway
<H4></H4>
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