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1. 06:53 AM - Arriving Saturday? Arizona flyin. (George Turner)
2. 07:12 AM - Re: Arriving Saturday? Arizona flyin. (Louis Owen)
3. 07:37 AM - Re: Arriving Saturday? Arizona flyin. (DaveM)
4. 08:46 AM - Re: Springs (IslPilot@aol.com)
5. 08:57 AM - Re: Springs (Fred Weaver)
6. 09:02 AM - Re: Springs (DaveM)
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| Subject: | Arriving Saturday? Arizona flyin. |
I plan on being to Jim's on Saturday morning, March 5. Are you California folks
planning on comming to Arizona on Saturday, too? George....Phoenix
There is a Tailwind from Ohio that is supposed to be in Az. for the winter. Does
anyone know how to get in touch with Him? I lost his email address.
red <redswing@mcn.org> wrote:
In addition to Dave's list,I think that Skip Lovell is planning to be there.
Red
----- Original Message -----
From: George Turner
Subject: Tailwind-List: Fly-in Plans
If the weather is ok, who is planning on comming to the Indian Hills fly-in other
than myself and Jim?
George Turner <tailwind222@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tailwind fly-in at Jim Clement's Hanger, Indian Hills Airpark, Salome, Arizona,
1st week-end of March. Jim has ordered warm dry weather, no wind. Be there or
be square.
2AZ1Indian Hills Airpark
Salome, Arizona, USA
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FAA INFORMATION EFFECTIVE 20 JANUARY 2005LocationFAA Identifier: 2AZ1Lat/Long:
33-45-33.1110N / 113-36-55.7450W
33-45.551850N / 113-36.929083W
33.7591975 / -113.6154847
(estimated)Elevation:
1866 ft.
Runway InformationRunway 8/26
Dimensions: 3000 x 40 ft. / 914 x 12 mSurface: asphalt/dirt
RY 08/26 ASPH BEGINS APCH END OF RY 26 FOR A DISTANCE OF 2558 FT, REMAINING 442
FT OF RY IS DIRT.Runway edge markings: RY 26 DSPLCD THLD MKD WITH CHEVRONS.RUNWAY
8 RUNWAY 26Traffic pattern: leftrightDisplaced threshold: no200 ft.Markings:
NSTD, in fair conditionNSTD, in fair conditionObstructions: none15 ft. road,
47 ft. from runway
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| Subject: | Re: Arriving Saturday? Arizona flyin. |
It's Sandy Vaughn .
He's down south of Phoenix where that Prisioner of war camp was during WWII.
Lou Owen
Sandy Vaughn
E-mail Address(es):
sjv01@aol.com
----- Original Message -----
From: George Turner
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Arriving Saturday? Arizona flyin.
I plan on being to Jim's on Saturday morning, March 5. Are you California folks
planning on comming to Arizona on Saturday, too? George....Phoenix
There is a Tailwind from Ohio that is supposed to be in Az. for the winter.
Does anyone know how to get in touch with Him? I lost his email address.
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| Subject: | Re: Arriving Saturday? Arizona flyin. |
George:
I am planning to leave Yolo County Airport Saturday AM. So I expect to be there
sometime after noon. We are bringing sleeping bags...and keeping fingers crossed
on no fog.
I will miss seeing Fred's low passes..........but Dennis Vest is pretty good at
them too.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: George Turner
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 6:52 AM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Arriving Saturday? Arizona flyin.
I plan on being to Jim's on Saturday morning, March 5. Are you California folks
planning on comming to Arizona on Saturday, too? George....Phoenix
There is a Tailwind from Ohio that is supposed to be in Az. for the winter.
Does anyone know how to get in touch with Him? I lost his email address.
red <redswing@mcn.org> wrote:
In addition to Dave's list,I think that Skip Lovell is planning to be there.
Red
----- Original Message -----
From: George Turner
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:46 AM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Fly-in Plans
If the weather is ok, who is planning on comming to the Indian Hills fly-in
other than myself and Jim?
George Turner <tailwind222@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tailwind fly-in at Jim Clement's Hanger, Indian Hills Airpark, Salome,
Arizona, 1st week-end of March. Jim has ordered warm dry weather, no wind. Be
there or be square.
2AZ1 Indian Hills Airpark
Salome, Arizona, USA
FAA INFORMATION EFFECTIVE 20 JANUARY 2005
Location
FAA Identifier: 2AZ1
Lat/Long: 33-45-33.1110N / 113-36-55.7450W
33-45.551850N / 113-36.929083W
33.7591975 / -113.6154847
(estimated)
Elevation: 1866 ft.
Runway Information
Runway 8/26
Dimensions: 3000 x 40 ft. / 914 x 12 m
Surface: asphalt/dirt
RY 08/26 ASPH BEGINS APCH END OF RY 26 FOR A DISTANCE
OF 2558 FT, REMAINING 442 FT OF RY IS DIRT.
Runway edge markings: RY 26 DSPLCD THLD MKD WITH CHEVRONS.
RUNWAY 8 RUNWAY 26
Traffic pattern: left right
Displaced threshold: no 200 ft.
Markings: NSTD, in fair condition NSTD, in fair condition
Obstructions: none 15 ft. road, 47 ft. from runway
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Weav:
Are you comfortable with the idea of a trim tab hanging off the back of the
elevator at speed?
In your Rocket it would be a much more integrated installation and your Rans
doesn't go fast enough. (Curious what the "Weaver Redline" is in the Rocket)
I am sure it could be engineered, but with the super light control forces of
the Tailwind, it seems that the dampening of the spring trim system is a plus
for flutter prevention. Especially in a "no-holds barred" O-360 install,
that occasionally gets the nose lowered quite a bit.
Compared to most planes, the Tailwind is pretty easy to fly if the trim was
non existent, its just a cruise control. Better put in a 3 - axis A/P if the
workload and stick forces are too high for you in a Tailwind!
Just stirring the pot!
Paul
CVX
Just another thing for the 3 axis trim crowd......Forest Lovely's plane that
he sold to my buddy, Jim Lindner has a great rudder trim setup. Two springs
to the rudder pedal cables with a torque tube ahead of the control stick for
easy setup. I would incorporate this in my Tailwind at the next rebuild.
Message 5
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My thoughts about the tab on the Tailwind are to build it into the elevator as
opposed to hanging it off the Trailing Edge. I don't see any problem at all regardless
of feel...
About the Rocket... It won't go fast enough without the wheelpants and intersection
fairings to go 300 indicated but that's my redline.
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: IslPilot@aol.com
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
Weav:
Are you comfortable with the idea of a trim tab hanging off the back of the
elevator at speed?
In your Rocket it would be a much more integrated installation and your Rans
doesn't go fast enough. (Curious what the "Weaver Redline" is in the Rocket)
I am sure it could be engineered, but with the super light control forces of
the Tailwind, it seems that the dampening of the spring trim system is a plus
for flutter prevention. Especially in a "no-holds barred" O-360 install, that
occasionally gets the nose lowered quite a bit.
Compared to most planes, the Tailwind is pretty easy to fly if the trim was non
existent, its just a cruise control. Better put in a 3 - axis A/P if the workload
and stick forces are too high for you in a Tailwind!
Just stirring the pot!
Paul
CVX
Just another thing for the 3 axis trim crowd......Forest Lovely's plane that
he sold to my buddy, Jim Lindner has a great rudder trim setup. Two springs to
the rudder pedal cables with a torque tube ahead of the control stick for easy
setup. I would incorporate this in my Tailwind at the next rebuild.
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Speaking of autopilots, I thought someone had installed the Digitrak system in
a tailwind. How does it work out?? My T-18 owner friend likes his, but has had
a few problems getting it to work correctly and consistently, particularly
the new upgrade with the horizon. The Digitrak primarily controls the ailerons
for directional control.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: IslPilot@aol.com
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Springs
Weav:
Are you comfortable with the idea of a trim tab hanging off the back of the
elevator at speed?
In your Rocket it would be a much more integrated installation and your Rans
doesn't go fast enough. (Curious what the "Weaver Redline" is in the Rocket)
I am sure it could be engineered, but with the super light control forces of
the Tailwind, it seems that the dampening of the spring trim system is a plus
for flutter prevention. Especially in a "no-holds barred" O-360 install, that
occasionally gets the nose lowered quite a bit.
Compared to most planes, the Tailwind is pretty easy to fly if the trim was non
existent, its just a cruise control. Better put in a 3 - axis A/P if the workload
and stick forces are too high for you in a Tailwind!
Just stirring the pot!
Paul
CVX
Just another thing for the 3 axis trim crowd......Forest Lovely's plane that
he sold to my buddy, Jim Lindner has a great rudder trim setup. Two springs to
the rudder pedal cables with a torque tube ahead of the control stick for easy
setup. I would incorporate this in my Tailwind at the next rebuild.
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