---------------------------------------------------------- Tailwind-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/06/05: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:45 AM - Re: Instrument flying (Eric Schlanser) 2. 06:02 AM - Re: Fuel tank (Paul Baron) 3. 06:18 AM - Re: Instrument flying (Bob Wuilleumier) 4. 06:25 PM - Arizona Flyin news (Jim Clement) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:19 AM PST US s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=X1+FMuhdf1H8KjA/2m5aHQkBLbkP/BLm/OgG3Wl22lQ3YpXIbnPE7O8JGYbdSnc4r9nuel6gUnkNUmYKmoeBNKeQePCKUNirx/36+v4c5uHgdcUSRC1VPinWOQWI335rGQrwb8bGH3r4IbbgIv/zTtVSr0zJMIWCaBsWv9+zZVc= ; From: Eric Schlanser Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Instrument flying Bob, Can you give some information on your TruTrak autopilot that Jim C installed? Which model TruTrak is it? Does it work well? Were there adequate directions for the installation? Any install problems? What did you compare it too? Thanks in advance, Eric Schlanser - Kalamazoo Bob Wuilleumier wrote: Dave; Bob Wuilleumier with your sister ship Trike 6168V. I have full panel for IFR but no marker beacon receiver or heated pitot. I agree that TW is not a stable IFR platform. Just flying VFR and looking at a map or approach plate or what ever your altitude is off by hundreds of feet before you know it. You would have to have a capable IFR rated passenger pilot to do a safe job in my opinion. I view flying the Tailwind VFR like I would flying a Twin Comanche IFR. Bob W. ---- Original Message ----- From: DaveM Subject: Tailwind-List: Instrument flying I had a little side discussion with Al about whether to put a turn and bank or turn coordinator in a plane among other things. For almost all of my flying, I never look at the turn coordinator other than the ball--the rest is excess weight. While I have assiduously avoided any VFR into IFR conditions, on my last BFR (two weeks ago), the CFI put a hood on my head and made me fly N168A (W-10) by the instruments. N168A only has a turn coordinator gyro, a VSI and the rest is basic instrumentation--altimeter, ASI and compass. Yes flying by the instruments can be done, but it takes a lot of concentration. He even covered the VSI and altimeter, so I was flying only by the TC and ASI for a bit. I would definitely like to get more practice, and it is actually fun to fly that way knowing you have a safety pilot on board, but I shiver to think about what it would be like under real conditions. Fortunately I didn't have to handle the radio or anything else but fly the plane during that time. As most of you know the tailwind is a quick and sensitive airplane, and not a real stable IFR platform. Has anyone ever flown a tailwind under real instrument conditions for any duration? Dave ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:06 AM PST US Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Fuel tank <009d01c521fa$156665a0$e7d4fea9@9dl5v01> From: Paul Baron --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Paul Baron Headed your way Dennis. Should be there around 1000. Your cell #? Paul CVX ___ Sent with SnapperMail www.snappermail.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:48 AM PST US d="scan'217,208"; a="651848553:sNHT27217416" From: "Bob Wuilleumier" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Instrument flying Eric; TruTrak Digifllight IIVSG. info@trutrakflightsystems.com I believe that instructions for installation were adequate. Best talk to J. Clement about any problems installing but seemed pretty straight forward for a Tailwind project. We have some pictures that would no doubt be helpful. It takes a little tweaking after installing on the programmed settings for TW but I would give you the settings I found to be the best. Takes 5 minutes to set it up either on ground or in the air. I feel that it is an excellent addition to my panel. GPS tracking is nice. You just sit back and enjoy a long ride with turbulence being handled nicely. Price wise it is many thousands less than anything comparable. It fits so nicely that it may be one of only a few options if any. Bob W. N6168V Madison, Wisconsin ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Schlanser To: tailwind-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 7:44 AM Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Instrument flying Bob, Can you give some information on your TruTrak autopilot that Jim C installed? Which model TruTrak is it? Does it work well? Were there adequate directions for the installation? Any install problems? What did you compare it too? Thanks in advance, Eric Schlanser - Kalamazoo Bob Wuilleumier wrote: Dave; Bob Wuilleumier with your sister ship Trike 6168V. I have full panel for IFR but no marker beacon receiver or heated pitot. I agree that TW is not a stable IFR platform. Just flying VFR and looking at a map or approach plate or what ever your altitude is off by hundreds of feet before you know it. You would have to have a capable IFR rated passenger pilot to do a safe job in my opinion. I view flying the Tailwind VFR like I would flying a Twin Comanche IFR. Bob W. ---- Original Message ----- From: DaveM To: Tailwind list Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:46 AM Subject: Tailwind-List: Instrument flying I had a little side discussion with Al about whether to put a turn and bank or turn coordinator in a plane among other things. For almost all of my flying, I never look at the turn coordinator other than the ball--the rest is excess weight. While I have assiduously avoided any VFR into IFR conditions, on my last BFR (two weeks ago), the CFI put a hood on my head and made me fly N168A (W-10) by the instruments. N168A only has a turn coordinator gyro, a VSI and the rest is basic instrumentation--altimeter, ASI and compass. Yes flying by the instruments can be done, but it takes a lot of concentration. He even covered the VSI and altimeter, so I was flying only by the TC and ASI for a bit. I would definitely like to get more practice, and it is actually fun to fly that way knowing you have a safety pilot on board, but I shiver to think about what it would be like under real conditions. Fortunat ely I didn't have to handle the radio or anything else but fly the plane during that time. As most of you know the tailwind is a quick and sensitive airplane, and not a real stable IFR platform. Has anyone ever flown a tailwind under real instrument conditions for any duration? Dave __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:31 PM PST US From: "Jim Clement" Subject: Tailwind-List: Arizona Flyin news --> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Jim Clement" Here is who attended the flyin: Jim Clement, Dave MaGaw, and son, Mike Tice, George Turner, Skip Lovell, Dennis Vest. Pictures and more info later. It is now Sunday night, I and Skip are still at Jim's, plan to leave tomorrow. George T.