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1. 12:19 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (dralle@matronics.com)
2. 04:18 AM - Re: Stub spar (Malcolm.Lovelace@coopertools.com)
3. 01:46 PM - Re: Repairs Again (Woods)
4. 02:40 PM - Re: Repairs Again (Kayberg@aol.com)
5. 06:10 PM - Re: Repairs Again (Brian Alley)
6. 07:21 PM - [ Dennis Vest ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
7. 08:04 PM - Re: Stub spar (Brian Alley)
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| Subject: | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Malcolm.Lovelace@CooperTools.com
Brian,
On the last 2 H stab stubs I installed they both moved some. The majority of
the weld is on top so it will pull up. I just take the torch and heat and
pull back were it should be. I also take a piece of 1/16 plate and make a
gusset to fit across the bottom of the tube and weld that in. I am not sure
it is necessary but you don't have to get so crazy in welding around the top
and the sides hoping that it holds.
Malcolm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Alley [SMTP:n320wt@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 10:34 PM
> To: tailwind list T-wind; TailwindForum
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Stub spar
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> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com>
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> I welded in the H-stab stub spar today, man what a
> job. After everything cooled, I measured the angles
> and found that the right side was turned up 1.5 deg.
> Has anyone else had this much misalignment? Is this
> something I can heat and bend back into level? I used
> the 1.00X.049 tube inside the 1.125 tube and ovaled
> both in the vise. The tube was straight before I
> welded it into the fuselage.
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> BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
> CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
> 101 Caroline Circle
> Hurricane, WV 25526
> 304-562-6800 home
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> How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
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| Subject: | Re: Repairs Again |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Woods" <dew@powerweb.net>
Who was the shipping company? I guess I wouldn't want to use them for
anything! Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Alley" <n320wt@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Repairs Again
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com>
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> Total abuse and negligence. It had something heavy
> fall on the tail. It had been dragged across concrete.
> The pictures only showed the most severe dammage. The
> fuselage was packed in foam tubing like you use to
> insulate water pipes and then shrink wraped. The wings
> were in a wood crate which had the ends ripped off.
> The tips of the wing spars were dammaged. The shipping
> company has refused to pay anything twice and now I'm
> waiting for a date in Circuit Court.
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> BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
> CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
> 101 Caroline Circle
> Hurricane, WV 25526
> 304-562-6800 home
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> How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
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| Subject: | Re: Repairs Again |
In a message dated 5/2/2005 4:47:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dew@powerweb.net writes:
Who was the shipping company? I guess I wouldn't want to use them for
anything! Don
Yes,
Who was the shipper and the carrier?
I spend thousands of dollars every year to ship airplane kits across the
country; I would be happy to not use certain carriers....and would have no bones
about letting them know.
Doug Koenigsberg
SkyRanger Aircraft Company
"A Passion for Sport Flying!"
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| Subject: | Re: Repairs Again |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com>
The shipper was SAIA and locally in WV Tri-State Express.
BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
101 Caroline Circle
Hurricane, WV 25526
304-562-6800 home
How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com>
Malcom, I worked on it some this evening and got it
very close. I clamped a 1" steel bar to the underside
of the spar and heated the welds to dull red and let
it cool. After removing the clamps and bar it sprang
back .5 deg. A little more work and I'll have it
straight. I considered a strap under the spar, could
you post a picture sometime. I also found that the
builder had not straightened the tailpost and the
rudder was touching the tailpost at the upper
longerons. A little heat and pressure and it's back
where it belongs.
BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
101 Caroline Circle
Hurricane, WV 25526
304-562-6800 home
How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
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