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1. 01:48 AM - Re: Ivo Props and metal props (Mike Mears)
2. 08:00 AM - Props (John Downing)
3. 09:42 AM - Re: Props (Richard Jamieson)
4. 01:34 PM - Re: Ivo Props (Fred Weaver)
5. 10:09 PM - Re: Ivo Props (red)
6. 10:11 PM - Re: Ivo Props (red)
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| Subject: | Ivo Props and metal props |
Wasn't there an article a few years ago in Sport Aviation that compared
several props on an RV 4 or 6? They came to the conclusion that the
Sensenich metal prop, Designed for the job and not repitched, was the most
efficient fixed pitch prop. That said, which was the fastest 160hp aircraft
in the AirVenture Cup air race? And what sort of prop was it using?
That seems to be a good argument for using an efficient wood prop on a
Tailwind to me!
Mike Mears.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted Strange
Subject: Tailwind-List: Ivo Props and metal props
Can I have some pros and cons on an Ivo prop for a C-90?
This one was on a 0-290. Might be ok on a C-90 but I won't ever use one
again.........Bob 149
They suck! You would be better off with a Kiev or Warp Drive.... Fred
Weaver [Mytyweav@earthlink.net]
Lots of people won't ever use an Ivo prop again. ...... Red
On either a Rotax 912 80 hp or a 912-S 100 hp the IVO outperforms both the
Kiev and Warp Drive when mounted in a Sky Ranger. No jive, we have
experience with all three. But I am using a McCalley 2 blade metal on my
C-90!
Doug Koenigsberg ..... Sky Ranger Aircraft Company ...... "A Passion for
Sport Flying!"
Thank you to all who sent me information. I am not going to use an Ivo
prop. Ted Strange [tedstrange@shaw.ca]
Has anyone ever used a metal prop ? I would like to try one on my Tailwind .
I was thinking of buying one from Van's ?
James Fuller
That could be interesting....which engine? ...... Fred Weaver
[Mytyweav@earthlink.net]
Fred, Here is a Sensenich RV prop for a O-360. EBay # 4575713628. Jim
My W-8 was certified with a metal prop. I put it back on one time and flew
with it, it needs a little more pitch. I think it was a 172 prop that was
clipped off and repitched for more speed. I like the wooden one better.
.... Bob Conner [bdconner@hotmail.com]
I never hear of anyone using a metal prop on any Tailwind ? Mine is a W-10 ,
0-320E2D , 150 hp. I think it turns up too high .............3100+ to hit
200mph . .... Jim fuller [jimfllr@yahoo.com]
Jim and all.... I have a 3 blade Catto being built that will smooth the
pulses a bit and go faster yet. Climb will be good too... No IVO's for
me....and no need for a metal two blade. Although, I'd like to see someone
try one. They do pretty good for the RV's ..... Weav
There have been a number of Tailwinds fly with a metal props, particularly
those built in the 70's and 80's. I know of several that had clipped and
re-pitched metal props and have friend who modified a number of them for
Tailwinds and RV's. For the 150/160hp, modified Cherokee 180 props were
popular. However, there is a risk attached. For the Tailwind, I'd think
that there are a number of wood or composite props that would provide much
better performance and less weight.
Jberry ..... Jim Berry [tailwind614@cox.net]
I put a repitched metal prop on my first tailwind. It picked up 5 mph.
over the wood. But it really effected the weight and balance, an extra 20
lbs or so on the nose.
I would never use a metal prop repitched from a cessna or piper etc.
again, as there has been some metal props like that, that broke in flight,
and then the inbalance can cause the engine mount to break, you lose an
engine from the plane, ruins your whole day.
Happened to Jerry Coughlin at Baraboo on his Cassutt. Engine stayed on,
but He hit wires on landing on a road, and damaged a wing. There has been
articles on the problem, and I understand the rules do not allow metal
repitched props on formula one racers anymore because of the risk. .....
George........Phx
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The Rotary guys are saying that at 180 mph the Warp Drive runs into a wall and
won't go any faster, which they say has something to do with the hub area. Just
thought I would pass this along, as all us Tailwind guys are hoping to keep
up with Red, without using JATO'S. Farmer John Hey Richard - Do
you have those wings on yet??
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Nope. Think I need to get the old Volvo into turbo boost and head up to your place
for some mental time!! RCJ
----- Original Message -----
From: John Downing
To: tailwind
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 11:13 AM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Props
The Rotary guys are saying that at 180 mph the Warp Drive runs into a wall and
won't go any faster, which they say has something to do with the hub area.
Just thought I would pass this along, as all us Tailwind guys are hoping to keep
up with Red, without using JATO'S. Farmer John Hey Richard -
Do you have those wings on yet??
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$2800??????????? for what?
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim fuller
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Ivo Props
Weav,
I have no problem spending the bucks to do the job right ( $2800 ) . I just don't
want to waste my money or worse yet kill myself ! If I stay with the factory
specs I don't see how I can go wrong . I would rather buy Earl Luce's Buttercup
, but he won't sell it ! It flys better than any Tailwind I've flown in
and it is a lot more comfortable . I don't even mind the slower speed ,it just
feels right !
James
Fred Weaver <Mytyweav@earthlink.net> wrote:
Jim and all.... I have a 3 blade Catto being built that will smooth the pulses
a bit and go faster yet. Climb will be good too...
No IVO's for me....and no need for a metal two blade. Although, I'd like to
see someone try one. They do pretty good for the RV's
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Clement
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Ivo Props
Fred, Here is a Sensenich RV prop for a O-360. EBay # 4575713628. Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Weaver
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Ivo Props
That could be interesting....which engine?
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim fuller
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Ivo Props
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Weav,
Are you getting reasdy for trhe 06 Airventure Cu
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Weaver
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Ivo Props
Jim and all.... I have a 3 blade Catto being built that will smooth the pulses
a bit and go faster yet. Climb will be good too...
No IVO's for me....and no need for a metal two blade. Although, I'd like to see
someone try one. They do pretty good for the RV's
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Clement
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Ivo Props
Fred, Here is a Sensenich RV prop for a O-360. EBay # 4575713628. Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Weaver
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Ivo Props
That could be interesting....which engine?
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim fuller
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Ivo Props
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Weav,
Are you getting ready for the 06 Aoirventure Cup race? We need you to show the
200HP Rvs the way home.
Red
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Weaver
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Ivo Props
Jim and all.... I have a 3 blade Catto being built that will smooth the pulses
a bit and go faster yet. Climb will be good too...
No IVO's for me....and no need for a metal two blade. Although, I'd like to see
someone try one. They do pretty good for the RV's
Weav
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Clement
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Ivo Props
Fred, Here is a Sensenich RV prop for a O-360. EBay # 4575713628. Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Weaver
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Ivo Props
That could be interesting....which engine?
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim fuller
To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Ivo Props
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