---------------------------------------------------------- Tailwind-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/13/06: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:39 AM - WLAS [Please Read] (Matt Dralle) 1. 01:14 AM - Re: WLAS [Please Read] (Ruhnke, Mike) 2. 02:49 PM - Re: WLAS [Please Read] (John Downing) 3. 03:09 PM - Re: WLAS [Please Read] (Ruhnke, Mike) 4. 03:26 PM - Re: WLAS [Please Read] (Jim Clement) 5. 04:21 PM - Re: WLAS [Please Read] (Ruhnke, Mike) 6. 04:45 PM - Re: WLAS [Please Read] (Mark McAtee) 7. 04:57 PM - Re: WLAS [Please Read] (Jim Clement) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:39:48 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] Dear Listers, I sat down at the 'ol computer tonight to have a look at a few of the nice comments List Members have been including along with their Contributions this year. 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Thank you for your generous Contributions this year and for all the wonderful comments!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================ Absolutely the best deal on the Internet!! -Owen B I love The Matronics... -Robeto B My wife has her soaps & I've got my lists! -Hal B These lists are, indeed, the lifeline of our hobby. -Bob R The best source of information for my a/c. -Tony C The Zenith list is the first thing I read in the morning. -Herbert H You do more good than you can imagine. 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At 11:00 pm Matronics is the goto place for my RV questions. -Mike D ================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================ ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:57 AM PST US Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] From: "Ruhnke, Mike" This is missing from the list of comments... If it were not for the "Tailwind" list my airplane would have killed someone. A critical component was not called out on my plans set. Had it not been for the list my plane would have gone into service missing this critical hidden component. Thanks for saving perhaps my life. Mike ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:49 PM PST US From: "John Downing" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] Mike; What the heck was it, the rest of us are not ready to go yet either. Farmer John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruhnke, Mike" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:14 AM Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] > > This is missing from the list of comments... > > If it were not for the "Tailwind" list my airplane would have killed > someone. A critical component was not called out on my plans set. Had > it not been for the list my plane would have gone into service missing > this critical hidden component. Thanks for saving perhaps my life. > > Mike > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:36 PM PST US Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] From: "Ruhnke, Mike" The data base should have all the information. Some of the early plans sets missed the call out for plywood doublers on the root end of the main spar. I had to open my wings to install it. I used 5/16 (5) ply birch per Jim Clement. If your not sure drill an inspection hole big enough for a dentist mirror and take a look, cheap insurance. Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of John Downing Sent: Mon 11/13/2006 4:55 PM Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] Mike; What the heck was it, the rest of us are not ready to go yet either. Farmer John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruhnke, Mike" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:14 AM Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] > > This is missing from the list of comments... > > If it were not for the "Tailwind" list my airplane would have killed > someone. A critical component was not called out on my plans set. Had > it not been for the list my plane would have gone into service missing > this critical hidden component. Thanks for saving perhaps my life. > > Mike > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:26:45 PM PST US From: "Jim Clement" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] Mike, are you sure you used 5/16"? Wittman's plans called for 1/16" birch, I usually use 3/32 or 1/8" birch. Jim C ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruhnke, Mike" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] The data base should have all the information. Some of the early plans sets missed the call out for plywood doublers on the root end of the main spar. I had to open my wings to install it. I used 5/16 (5) ply birch per Jim Clement. If your not sure drill an inspection hole big enough for a dentist mirror and take a look, cheap insurance. Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of John Downing Sent: Mon 11/13/2006 4:55 PM Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] Mike; What the heck was it, the rest of us are not ready to go yet either. Farmer John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruhnke, Mike" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:14 AM Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] > > This is missing from the list of comments... > > If it were not for the "Tailwind" list my airplane would have killed > someone. A critical component was not called out on my plans set. Had > it not been for the list my plane would have gone into service missing > this critical hidden component. Thanks for saving perhaps my life. > > Mike > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:21:50 PM PST US Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] From: "Ruhnke, Mike" I wasn't going to fool around the second time I had the wings open. Perhaps it wasn't you but the guy that makes the cowlings. Anyway, birch, 5 layer, 5/16. I got it from a hobby supply store. -----Original Message----- From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Clement Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:27 AM Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] Mike, are you sure you used 5/16"? Wittman's plans called for 1/16" birch, I usually use 3/32 or 1/8" birch. Jim C ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruhnke, Mike" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] The data base should have all the information. Some of the early plans sets missed the call out for plywood doublers on the root end of the main spar. I had to open my wings to install it. I used 5/16 (5) ply birch per Jim Clement. If your not sure drill an inspection hole big enough for a dentist mirror and take a look, cheap insurance. Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of John Downing Sent: Mon 11/13/2006 4:55 PM Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] Mike; What the heck was it, the rest of us are not ready to go yet either. Farmer John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruhnke, Mike" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:14 AM Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] > > This is missing from the list of comments... > > If it were not for the "Tailwind" list my airplane would have killed > someone. A critical component was not called out on my plans set. Had > it not been for the list my plane would have gone into service missing > this critical hidden component. Thanks for saving perhaps my life. > > Mike > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:45:41 PM PST US From: "Mark McAtee" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] Just checked my wings. I have not yet attached the root ribs and my plywood doublers are 1/16th inch 3 ply birch with 45 degree orientation on Doug Fir spars. Should I add another layer of 1/16th before I close or just keep it the way it is? Mark "When landing a taildragger, all that matters is you touchdown straight - no drift/crab. You want to make sure your wreckage goes straight down the runway..." >From: "Jim Clement" >To: >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] >Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:26:39 -0600 > > > >Mike, are you sure you used 5/16"? Wittman's plans called for 1/16" birch, >I usually use 3/32 or 1/8" birch. Jim C > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruhnke, Mike" > >To: >Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:06 PM >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] > > >The data base should have all the information. Some of the early plans >sets missed the call out for plywood doublers on the root end of the main >spar. I had to open my wings to install it. I used 5/16 (5) ply birch per >Jim Clement. If your not sure drill an inspection hole big enough for a >dentist mirror and take a look, cheap insurance. > >Mike > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of John Downing >Sent: Mon 11/13/2006 4:55 PM >To: tailwind-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] > > > >Mike; What the heck was it, the rest of us are not ready to go yet either. >Farmer John >----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruhnke, Mike" > >To: >Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:14 AM >Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] > > > >> >>This is missing from the list of comments... >> >>If it were not for the "Tailwind" list my airplane would have killed >>someone. A critical component was not called out on my plans set. Had >>it not been for the list my plane would have gone into service missing >>this critical hidden component. Thanks for saving perhaps my life. >> >>Mike >> >> >> >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:17 PM PST US From: "Jim Clement" Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] Leave it the way it is. Jim C ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark McAtee" Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:45 PM Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: WLAS [Please Read] > > Just checked my wings. I have not yet attached the root ribs and my > plywood doublers are 1/16th inch 3 ply birch with 45 degree orientation on > Doug Fir spars. Should I add another layer of 1/16th before I close or > just keep it the way it is? > >