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1. 03:47 AM - Re: Wet W10 wings anyone? (Robert Ardis)
2. 04:53 AM - Re: Re: Wet W10 wings anyone? (Bill Bernard)
3. 06:58 AM - Re: Re: Wet W10 wings anyone? (Phil Sisson)
4. 09:41 AM - Re: Re: Wet W10 wings anyone? (Luc H)
5. 09:41 AM - Re: Re: Wet W10 wings anyone? (George Turner)
6. 01:10 PM - Re: Re: Wet W10 wings anyone? (Bill Bernard)
7. 09:45 PM - Re: [TailwindForum] throttle cable (Dennis Flamini)
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| Subject: | Wet W10 wings anyone? |
About 40 years ago, there was a red Tailwind or Cougar at Weatherford,
Texas with tip tanks--
at least they appeared to be tip tanks. ' May be some problems with fuel
flow in steep turns
and low fuel but the plumbing design and fuel pumps in the wings could take
care of that
problem.
>From: "Phil Sisson" <sisson@consolidated.net>
>To: <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Wet W10 wings anyone?
>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:14:51 -0600
>
><sisson@consolidated.net>
>
>I have. But it was not a "wet wing".
>It is a Pitts with a center section fuel/smoke tank combination. Mine holds
>about 5 or 6 gallons. I welded up an aluminum tank, shaped to fit in the
>center section cavity. I just blocked it in good and solid before I put the
>top 1/8" plywood on. No problems. It has been in there for about twenty six
>years. Tested it good with soap and water for leaks and used an inflated
>balloon to supply the air pressure for testing. The first one blew out like
>a foot ball when I tested it with too much air. (just a couple of pounds
>caused it to deform)
>
>Phil
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-tailwind-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rx7tailwind
>Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 6:35 AM
>To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Tailwind-List: Wet W10 wings anyone?
>
>
>Has anyone made a wooden W10 wing with fuel tank in it? Any thoughts on
>this?
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=103842#103842
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wet W10 wings anyone? |
When I was building my metal wings, I thought about fuel in the wings. I admit
it has advantages of allowing more room behind the panel and moving the CG aft
a bit. However, it looked to me that it would be a complicated system with multiple
tanks, fuel pumps, a lot of plumbing, and possibly a fairly significant
amount of unusable fuel. I came to the conclusion that a single tank just behind
the firewall, feeding the engine by gravity was the best solution.
Admittedly, I did not build any of a wing fuel tank. Others who have may show that
my conclusions were in error.
Bill
N40WB
I bet they could but would not comment unless I could see and study the
drawings. Taylorcraft had some small light weight wing tanks that held about
6 gallons. It should not be hard to make some light weight tanks to hold 10
gallons per side and slip them into a section of the wings. You could even
build two of them per side if needed and pipe them together. I think it
would be a very positive design change though if you can do it. Very nice
airplane..
Phil in Litchfield, IL Pitts N1GB RV6 N181RV
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:54 AM
Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Wet W10 wings anyone?
>
> I'm trying to eliminate the inside cabin fuel tank. Could more than one
> tank be placed in series inside the wing to carry 15-20 gal?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=103896#103896
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wet W10 wings anyone? |
Wow, the list comes alive.
So many of these matronics lists are virtually dead.
I am a tailwind fan. Always have been, always will be. Could never get
started. In the mean time I built a Pitts and an RV6. The tailwind still
lingers though. I have a nice RV6, but I think the TW is a more practical
plane when one considers every thing, such as cost to build and simplicity.
Couple that with a very respectable cruise speed per HP and the TW is a
close shoice.
Vans plans are not real clear in a lot of areas. The second time around they
would be, but the first time they are somewhat un-clear.
As for the metal wings. I would sure look into them if I were a builder and
I had not yet stsrted a set of wings.
Keep this list going... Let's trade rides... I may get the torch fired up.
Phil in Central Illinois
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| Subject: | Re: Wet W10 wings anyone? |
Phil
The Yahoo Tailwind Forum has more activity. Are you a member on that list?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TailwindForum/
If you really want to see Tailwinds go to Baraboo WI (KDLL) the weekend before
Oshkosh.
Luc
----- Original Message ----
From: Phil Sisson <sisson@consolidated.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 6:56:38 AM
Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Wet W10 wings anyone?
Wow, the list comes alive.
So many of these matronics lists are virtually dead.
I am a tailwind fan. Always have been, always will be. Could never get
started. In the mean time I built a Pitts and an RV6. The tailwind still
lingers though. I have a nice RV6, but I think the TW is a more practical
plane when one considers every thing, such as cost to build and simplicity.
Couple that with a very respectable cruise speed per HP and the TW is a
close shoice.
Vans plans are not real clear in a lot of areas. The second time around they
would be, but the first time they are somewhat un-clear.
As for the metal wings. I would sure look into them if I were a builder and
I had not yet stsrted a set of wings.
Keep this list going... Let's trade rides... I may get the torch fired up.
Phil in Central Illinois
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| Subject: | Re: Wet W10 wings anyone? |
Phil, The Tailwind people are mainly using the Yahoo forum now instgead of Matronics, with over 630 members and growing nicely very active. Check it out: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TailwindForum/
Jim Rusk is a carbon fiber pro, and he has 50 gals of fuel in his wing tanks.
Wings are wood. He may give his view, if you ask for it, he is on the Yahoo forum.
I think he questioned whether it was worth the extra work involved. Also
fueling the plane is not so easy.
Attached is a picture of his wing and you can see the tank fuel caps. George
Phil Sisson <sisson@consolidated.net> wrote:
Wow, the list comes alive.
So many of these matronics lists are virtually dead.
I am a tailwind fan. Always have been, always will be. Could never get
started. In the mean time I built a Pitts and an RV6. The tailwind still
lingers though. I have a nice RV6, but I think the TW is a more practical
plane when one considers every thing, such as cost to build and simplicity.
Couple that with a very respectable cruise speed per HP and the TW is a
close shoice.
Vans plans are not real clear in a lot of areas. The second time around they
would be, but the first time they are somewhat un-clear.
As for the metal wings. I would sure look into them if I were a builder and
I had not yet stsrted a set of wings.
Keep this list going... Let's trade rides... I may get the torch fired up.
Phil in Central Illinois
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| Subject: | Re: Wet W10 wings anyone? |
Phil, I read a quote many years ago from a Tailwind builder who said, "The plans
give you a wonderful opportunity to use your imagination."
I doubt I would have gotten mine done without the help from folks on the internet.
Bill
N40WB
Wow, the list comes alive.
So many of these matronics lists are virtually dead.
I am a tailwind fan. Always have been, always will be. Could never get
started. In the mean time I built a Pitts and an RV6. The tailwind still
lingers though. I have a nice RV6, but I think the TW is a more practical
plane when one considers every thing, such as cost to build and simplicity.
Couple that with a very respectable cruise speed per HP and the TW is a
close shoice.
Vans plans are not real clear in a lot of areas. The second time around they
would be, but the first time they are somewhat un-clear.
As for the metal wings. I would sure look into them if I were a builder and
I had not yet stsrted a set of wings.
Keep this list going... Let's trade rides... I may get the torch fired up.
Phil in Central Illinois
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| Subject: | Re: [TailwindForum] throttle cable |
Guido,
Here is photo of my old TW panel, cowl flap, mixture on top,
throttle, prop below..all go over the tank, simple and 2000hrs of
testing so far.
Dave in Kissimmee, Florida has taken over the testing.
Dennis in Dallas from Chicago
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