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I have a question! I don't have much tailwheel experience (6 hrs) and my
last flight in an RV-6 upon landing, the aircraft danced on the main wheels
back and forth several times in a slight crosswind. Is this an inherent
problem with the RV aircraft, or will all tailwheel aircraft do this if you
are fast or don't roll in all the aileron upon landing?
Mike
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> 1. 03:17 AM - Re: Tailwind-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/27/09 (wskimike)
> 2. 05:39 AM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (John Downing)
> 3. 07:13 AM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
> 4. 07:17 AM - Re: Re: Tailwind-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/27/09
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> 5. 07:32 AM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
> 6. 09:07 AM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Dave Magaw)
> 7. 09:46 AM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
> 8. 10:33 AM - Baraboo (John Downing)
> 9. 10:42 AM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Mike & \)
> 10. 05:24 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Dave Magaw)
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> From: "wskimike" <wskimike@mchsi.com>
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Tailwind-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/27/09
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>
> It's good to get some tailwind conversation. Thanks
> Mike
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>> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
>> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
>> of the Tailwind-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
>> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
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>> 1. 10:32 AM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>> 2. 03:13 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Flamini, Dennis,
>> Fran)
>> 3. 04:16 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>> 4. 04:42 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Flamini, Dennis,
>> Fran)
>> 5. 05:44 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>> 6. 05:45 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>> 7. 07:47 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Dave Magaw)
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 1
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 10:32:07 AM PST US
>> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>> currently
>> rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. The
>> Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount of
>> i
>> nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active website.
>> I
>> have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think the
>> format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>> JC...not Injuns=3B
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>
>> And the GPU
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf
>>
>> Dennis from Chicago
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 03:13:36 PM PST US
>> From: "Flamini, Dennis, Fran" <flamini2@comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>> Pat,
>>
>> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and has
>> lots of archived info.
>> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due
>> to ability to add photos to posts, shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>> Yahoo.
>> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch to
>> Yahoo.
>>
>> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: patrick reilly
>> To: Tailwind Matronics
>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Dennis, I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>> currently rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this
>> summer. The Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an
>> immense amount of info from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a
>> more active website. I have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good.
>> But, I don't think the format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford, IL
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -----
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> To: thorplist@yahoogroups.com; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com;
>> tailwind-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600
>>
>>
>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines,
>> JC...not Injuns;
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>
>> And the GPU
>>
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.p
>> df
>>
>> Dennis from Chicago
>>
>>
>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronics.com
>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 3
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 04:16:21 PM PST US
>> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Dennis=2C I will send photos at a latter date. I saw the plane on
>> Barnstorm
>> ers a year ago in Alabama. It was built in Alabama in 1993 I believe. It
>> wa
>> s deregistered=2C dismanteled and sold for scrap on the record. But=2C
>> the
>> only dismanteling was the removale of the wings. A fellow bought it as
>> part
>> of a package with a couple of engines he wanted and put it on
>> Barnstormers
>> . I am rebuilding a Kitfox that will be up and flying in a couple of
>> months
>> . A Kitfox cruises at 85mph. I thought that is a great low and slow plane
>> a
>> nd thought an RV would make a great getup and go plane. Saw this W10 for
>> ab
>> out 1/4 of what an RV cost=2C liked the design and history of the
>> Whittman
>> and could justify getting it. The plane is actually in better shape than
>> I
>> had Hoped by the pictures in barn stormers. The fellow that had it listed
>> =2C when I asked the condition said what it really needed was a wash job.
>> H
>> e wasn't lying It looked damn good after I washed it. As a matter of fact
>> o
>> ne guy saw it a couple of days after it was delivered=2C came back a
>> couple
>> of months later after the wash job and asked me if I had repainted it. I
>> w
>> ill start working on it this summer. And hope to have it up summer of
>> 2010.
>> The plane was built with an 0-320 and latter converted to an 0-290 by the
>> original builder. Are you located in Chicago?
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Pat=2C
>>
>> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and has
>> lot
>> s of archived info.
>> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due to
>> a
>> bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>> Yahoo.
>> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch to
>> Ya
>> hoo.
>>
>> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: patrick reilly
>> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>> Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>> currently
>> rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. The
>> Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount of
>> i
>> nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active website.
>> I
>> have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think the
>> format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>> JC...not Injuns=3B
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>
>> And the GPU
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf
>>
>> Dennis from Chicago
>>
>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronics.com
>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matron
>> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 4
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 04:42:36 PM PST US
>> From: "Flamini, Dennis, Fran" <flamini2@comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>> Pat,
>> We are in the South Suburbs of Chicago about 30 miles South of MDW,
>> Frankfort, IL.
>> i flew a W9 Tailwind for 12 years, 1000 hrs and raced it a little, it
>> had an 0-360 with CS prop and did about 200 while racing.
>> The new W10's are a lot faster, in the 2006 Airventure we were low on
>> fuel so throttled back and flew high but a W10 from CA with
>> 0-320 flew low and fast into mostly headwinds and did 216mph!
>> See photos of Tailwind, N564DF that i sold in 2005 and last raced in
>> 2006.Also current biplane project.
>> i am only sport pilot now and hope to be able to lift my leg high enough
>> to get in the biplane.
>> 66 years old and happy to even see 2009.
>> Dennis from Chicago
>> PS; i attended the RFD EAA flyins from 1963 on and flew a Cougar, N6484D
>> built by Leonard Eaves into the first OSH flyin.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: patrick reilly
>> To: Tailwind Matronics
>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 6:13 PM
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Dennis, I will send photos at a latter date. I saw the plane on
>> Barnstormers a year ago in Alabama. It was built in Alabama in 1993 I
>> believe. It was deregistered, dismanteled and sold for scrap on the
>> record. But, the only dismanteling was the removale of the wings. A
>> fellow bought it as part of a package with a couple of engines he wanted
>> and put it on Barnstormers. I am rebuilding a Kitfox that will be up and
>> flying in a couple of months. A Kitfox cruises at 85mph. I thought that
>> is a great low and slow plane and thought an RV would make a great getup
>> and go plane. Saw this W10 for about 1/4 of what an RV cost, liked the
>> design and history of the Whittman and could justify getting it. The
>> plane is actually in better shape than I had Hoped by the pictures in
>> barn stormers. The fellow that had it listed, when I asked the condition
>> said what it really needed was a wash job. He wasn't lying It looked
>> damn good after I washed it. As a matter of fact one guy saw it a couple
>> of days after it was delivered, came back a couple of months later after
>> the wash job and asked me if I had repainted it. I will start working on
>> it this summer. And hope to have it up summer of 2010. The plane was
>> built with an 0-320 and latter converted to an 0-290 by the original
>> builder. Are you located in Chicago?
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford, IL
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -----
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:11:07 -0600
>>
>>
>> Pat,
>>
>> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and
>> has lots of archived info.
>> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due
>> to ability to add photos to posts, shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>> Yahoo.
>> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch
>> to Yahoo.
>>
>> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: patrick reilly
>> To: Tailwind Matronics
>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Dennis, I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>> currently rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this
>> summer. The Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an
>> immense amount of info from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a
>> more active website. I have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good.
>> But, I don't think the format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford, IL
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> To: thorplist@yahoogroups.com; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com;
>> tailwind-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600
>>
>>
>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines,
>> JC...not Injuns;
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>
>> And the GPU
>>
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.p
>> df
>>
>> Dennis from Chicago
>>
>>
>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronics.com
>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matr
>> onics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>
>>
>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronics.com
>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 5
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:44:31 PM PST US
>> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Dennis=2C WOW! I finally contacted a real Tailwinder on this site. I had
>> gi
>> ven up hope. I didn't even know there was a W9. W8 and W10 was all I ever
>> h
>> eard of. What biplane project have you got going. I have to have a
>> biplane.
>> I like the Skybolt or Marquart Charger. I am a little dismayed though.
>> "66
>> " ain't old. I am "65" and will get my license this spring. I had an
>> ultral
>> ight 20 years ago for 3 years. Sold it=2C toyed with the idea of getting
>> my
>> license=2C but was raising a family and didn't really have the time. Two
>> y
>> ears ago we moved to Rockford=2C 1 mile west of runway 7=2C found EAA Chp
>> 2
>> 2 and a hotbed of experimental aircraft aviation at Cottonwood airport
>> here
>> in Rockford. Streetrods are fun=2C motorcycles are crazy=2C airplanes...
>> t
>> hey are reserved for the insane. Can't wait to meet you and pick your
>> brain
>> on the Tailwind.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Pat=2C
>> We are in the South Suburbs of Chicago about 30 miles South of MDW=2C
>> Frank
>> fort=2C IL.
>> i flew a W9 Tailwind for 12 years=2C 1000 hrs and raced it a little=2C it
>> h
>> ad an 0-360 with CS prop and did about 200 while racing.
>> The new W10's are a lot faster=2C in the 2006 Airventure we were low on
>> fue
>> l so throttled back and flew high but a W10 from CA with
>> 0-320 flew low and fast into mostly headwinds and did 216mph!
>> See photos of Tailwind=2C N564DF that i sold in 2005 and last raced in
>> 2006
>> .Also current biplane project.
>> i am only sport pilot now and hope to be able to lift my leg high enough
>> to
>> get in the biplane.
>> 66 years old and happy to even see 2009.
>> Dennis from Chicago
>> PS=3B i attended the RFD EAA flyins from 1963 on and flew a Cougar=2C
>> N6484
>> D built by Leonard Eaves into the first OSH flyin.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: patrick reilly
>> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 6:13 PM
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>> Dennis=2C I will send photos at a latter date. I saw the plane on
>> Barnstorm
>> ers a year ago in Alabama. It was built in Alabama in 1993 I believe. It
>> wa
>> s deregistered=2C dismanteled and sold for scrap on the record. But=2C
>> the
>> only dismanteling was the removale of the wings. A fellow bought it as
>> part
>> of a package with a couple of engines he wanted and put it on
>> Barnstormers
>> . I am rebuilding a Kitfox that will be up and flying in a couple of
>> months
>> . A Kitfox cruises at 85mph. I thought that is a great low and slow plane
>> a
>> nd thought an RV would make a great getup and go plane. Saw this W10 for
>> ab
>> out 1/4 of what an RV cost=2C liked the design and history of the
>> Whittman
>> and could justify getting it. The plane is actually in better shape than
>> I
>> had Hoped by the pictures in barn stormers. The fellow that had it listed
>> =2C when I asked the condition said what it really needed was a wash job.
>> H
>> e wasn't lying It looked damn good after I washed it. As a matter of fact
>> o
>> ne guy saw it a couple of days after it was delivered=2C came back a
>> couple
>> of months later after the wash job and asked me if I had repainted it. I
>> w
>> ill start working on it this summer. And hope to have it up summer of
>> 2010.
>> The plane was built with an 0-320 and latter converted to an 0-290 by the
>> original builder. Are you located in Chicago?
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Pat=2C
>>
>> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and has
>> lot
>> s of archived info.
>> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due to
>> a
>> bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>> Yahoo.
>> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch to
>> Ya
>> hoo.
>>
>> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: patrick reilly
>> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>> Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>> currently
>> rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. The
>> Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount of
>> i
>> nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active website.
>> I
>> have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think the
>> format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>> JC...not Injuns=3B
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>
>> And the GPU
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf
>>
>> Dennis from Chicago
>>
>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronics.com
>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matron
>> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>
>>
>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronics.com
>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matron
>> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 6
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:45:56 PM PST US
>> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Dennis=2C WOW! I finally contacted a real Tailwinder on this site. I had
>> gi
>> ven up hope. I didn't even know there was a W9. W8 and W10 was all I ever
>> h
>> eard of. What biplane project have you got going. I have to have a
>> biplane.
>> I like the Skybolt or Marquart Charger. I am a little dismayed though.
>> "66
>> " ain't old. I am "65" and will get my license this spring. I had an
>> ultral
>> ight 20 years ago for 3 years. Sold it=2C toyed with the idea of getting
>> my
>> license=2C but was raising a family and didn't really have the time. Two
>> y
>> ears ago we moved to Rockford=2C 1 mile west of runway 7=2C found EAA Chp
>> 2
>> 2 and a hotbed of experimental aircraft aviation at Cottonwood airport
>> here
>> in Rockford. Streetrods are fun=2C motorcycles are crazy=2C airplanes...
>> t
>> hey are reserved for the insane. Can't wait to meet you and pick your
>> brain
>> on the Tailwind.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Pat=2C
>> We are in the South Suburbs of Chicago about 30 miles South of MDW=2C
>> Frank
>> fort=2C IL.
>> i flew a W9 Tailwind for 12 years=2C 1000 hrs and raced it a little=2C it
>> h
>> ad an 0-360 with CS prop and did about 200 while racing.
>> The new W10's are a lot faster=2C in the 2006 Airventure we were low on
>> fue
>> l so throttled back and flew high but a W10 from CA with
>> 0-320 flew low and fast into mostly headwinds and did 216mph!
>> See photos of Tailwind=2C N564DF that i sold in 2005 and last raced in
>> 2006
>> .Also current biplane project.
>> i am only sport pilot now and hope to be able to lift my leg high enough
>> to
>> get in the biplane.
>> 66 years old and happy to even see 2009.
>> Dennis from Chicago
>> PS=3B i attended the RFD EAA flyins from 1963 on and flew a Cougar=2C
>> N6484
>> D built by Leonard Eaves into the first OSH flyin.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: patrick reilly
>> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 6:13 PM
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>> Dennis=2C I will send photos at a latter date. I saw the plane on
>> Barnstorm
>> ers a year ago in Alabama. It was built in Alabama in 1993 I believe. It
>> wa
>> s deregistered=2C dismanteled and sold for scrap on the record. But=2C
>> the
>> only dismanteling was the removale of the wings. A fellow bought it as
>> part
>> of a package with a couple of engines he wanted and put it on
>> Barnstormers
>> . I am rebuilding a Kitfox that will be up and flying in a couple of
>> months
>> . A Kitfox cruises at 85mph. I thought that is a great low and slow plane
>> a
>> nd thought an RV would make a great getup and go plane. Saw this W10 for
>> ab
>> out 1/4 of what an RV cost=2C liked the design and history of the
>> Whittman
>> and could justify getting it. The plane is actually in better shape than
>> I
>> had Hoped by the pictures in barn stormers. The fellow that had it listed
>> =2C when I asked the condition said what it really needed was a wash job.
>> H
>> e wasn't lying It looked damn good after I washed it. As a matter of fact
>> o
>> ne guy saw it a couple of days after it was delivered=2C came back a
>> couple
>> of months later after the wash job and asked me if I had repainted it. I
>> w
>> ill start working on it this summer. And hope to have it up summer of
>> 2010.
>> The plane was built with an 0-320 and latter converted to an 0-290 by the
>> original builder. Are you located in Chicago?
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Pat=2C
>>
>> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and has
>> lot
>> s of archived info.
>> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due to
>> a
>> bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>> Yahoo.
>> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch to
>> Ya
>> hoo.
>>
>> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: patrick reilly
>> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>> Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>> currently
>> rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. The
>> Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount of
>> i
>> nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active website.
>> I
>> have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think the
>> format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>> JC...not Injuns=3B
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>
>> And the GPU
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf
>>
>> Dennis from Chicago
>>
>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronics.com
>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matron
>> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>
>>
>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronics.com
>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matron
>> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 7
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 07:47:53 PM PST US
>> From: Dave Magaw <pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>> Not quite correct Dennis.- Actually the history of the Tailwind Forum (Ya
>> hoo) and Tailwind List (Matronics) is basically as follows:=0A=0ABurt
>> Rudol
>> ph first had the Tailwind e-mail list on his website back in the late
>> 1990'
>> s.- That is when I first joined the group.- His list worked for a time,
>> then he had troubles maintaining it and periodically it would go down.-
>> He got it going again for a short time, but at that time it was a lot of
>> wo
>> rk to maintain a list.- His website was http://www.chlassociates.com/Avia
>> tion/tailwind.htm-but it is no longer available and it hadn't been update
>> d in years.=0A=0AWhen Jerry Hey took over the Tailwind Times (late 1990s
>> or
>> 2000), he also set up the "Tailwind Forum" e-mail group.- I don't rememb
>> er how long he was able to manage it, I think it was about a year,
>> perhaps
>> even two, but then he also had problems maintaining it and protecting
>> again
>> st spam.- After it went down, I suggested to Jerry that perhaps we should
>> start a Yahoo group, which a number of other aircraft groups had also
>> done
>> .- Jerry asked me to set it up and so I did in August 2001--I followed Je
>> rry's lead (with his blessing) and named it the "Tailwind Forum".- =0A=0A
>> About perhaps a year or more-later, Matronics was setting up its various
>> e-mail groups, and was successful with the RV types among others.- He exp
>> anded to include the "Tailwind-List" among others.- Many liked this becau
>> se the Matronics Lists didn't have advertisement, but for a long time it
>> co
>> uld not accommodate pictures.- This was later modified and pictures and f
>> iles were allowed, but the Matronics Tailwind List never became popular
>> com
>> pared to the Tailwind Forum, though it has had its stalwart supporters.-
>> I think this was for a variety of reasons, the monthly admonitions about
>> co
>> ntent on the forums, the annual fundraiser/plea for money, and the lack
>> of
>> flexibility and content that the Yahoo groups allow (these are my
>> personal
>> opinions mindya!).- =0A=0AThe Yahoo Tailwind Forum currently has 885 memb
>> ers worldwide, and a wealth of information on the Tailwind-between the pi
>> ctures, links and files on the forum site, not to mention the average of
>> 40
>> 0 to over 800 posts per month, which are archived and searchable.- Yes it
>> still has some advertisement, but it is fairly unobtrusive.- It allows t
>> he owners and-moderators to be changed, and the group can have input into
>> these if they need to.- For example, on another Yahoo group that I frequ
>> ent, the Owner disappeared, and the group was getting a fair amount of
>> spam
>> because the membership was wide open to anyone.- I worked with Yahoo, an
>> d we got two new moderators who now monitor the memberships, and who have
>> p
>> ut much more content on the site.- It is now-much better.=0A=0AI am not
>> trying to bash the Tailwind list--I have been a member of it since
>> incepti
>> on--and it is, and always has been,-listed on the Tailwind forum as an al
>> ternate group.- However, like many Matronics groups, it is not used very
>> much.- I know this is not the preference of those who like the Matronics
>> group better, but it is the fact.=0A=0ADave Magaw=0AN168A=0ASacramento,
>> CA
>> =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "Flamini, Dennis,
>> F
>> ran" <flamini2@comcast.net>=0ATo: tailwind-list@matronics.com=0ASent:
>> Frida
>> y, February 27, 2009 3:11:07 PM=0ASubject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and
>> oth
>> er Lycoming info=0A=0A=0APat,=0A-=0AThe Tailwind forum at matronics was t
>> he only site for some time and has lots of archived info.=0Ai think it
>> was
>> one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due to ability to-add
>> photos to posts, shortly after most switched to Yahoo=0AMatt added the
>> sam
>> e thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on Yahoo.=0Ai try to post
>> t
>> o both since i have some friends that refuse to switch to Yahoo.=0A-=0ATe
>> ll me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?=0A-=0ADen
>> nis=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: patrick reill
>> y =0ATo: Tailwind Matronics =0ASent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:29
>> PM=0AS
>> ubject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info=0ADennis, I live
>> i
>> n Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am currently rebuilding a
>> Kitfo
>> x and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. The- Matronix website
>> is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount of info from the
>> web
>> site. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active website. I have been
>> told
>> the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But, I don't think the format is as
>> user
>> friendly as this Matronix site.=0A=0APat Reilly=0AMod 3 582
>> Rebuild=0ARockf
>> ord, IL=0A=0A=0A=0A-=0A________________________________=0AFrom: flamini2@
>> comcast.net=0ATo: thorplist@yahoogroups.com;
>> TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com;
>> tailwind-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other
>> Lyco
>> ming info=0ADate: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600=0A=0A=0AAll you ever
>> want
>> ed to know about Lycoming engines,=0AJC...not Injuns;=0A-=0Ahttp://www.7t
>> s0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/=0A-=0AAnd the GPU=0A-=0Ahttp://www.7ts0.co
>> m/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf=0A-=0ADennis fr
>> om Chicago=0A t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronic
>> s.com ww.matronics.com/contribution =0A href="http://www.matronics
>> .com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-L
>> ist href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href
>> ="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =0A
>> =========== =0A=0A=0A
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:39:15 AM PST US
> From: "John Downing" <downing.j@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
> Pat, glad to see that you are getting motivated on the Tailwind, see you
> at Baraboo. Farmer John
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----
> From: flamini2@comcast.net
> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:11:07 -0600
>
>
> Pat,
>
> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and
> has lots of archived info.
> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due
> to ability to add photos to posts, shortly after most switched to Yahoo
> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
> Yahoo.
> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch
> to Yahoo.
>
> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>
> Dennis
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: patrick reilly
> To: Tailwind Matronics
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:29 PM
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> Dennis, I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
> currently rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this
> summer. The Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an
> immense amount of info from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a
> more active website. I have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good.
> But, I don't think the format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford, IL
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
> From: flamini2@comcast.net
> To: thorplist@yahoogroups.com; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com;
> tailwind-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600
>
>
> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines,
> JC...not Injuns;
>
> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>
> And the GPU
>
>
> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.p
> df
>
> Dennis from Chicago
>
>
> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
> ronics.com
> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matr
> onics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>
>
> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
> ronics.com
> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:13:13 AM PST US
> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> Farmer John=2C I was in Baraboo last year. I drove in from a trip back
> from
> Door County. That was the 1st time That I met Jim Clement. I'll have to ge
> t there this year. Hope I have =2C Hell hope never gets the job done=2C I
> w
> ill have my Kitfox up and fly it to Baraboo. The Tailwind will be in
> proces
> s. One thing I like about the Kitfox site is the posters Post there
> locatio
> n=2C model and engine. Farmer john from where with what model and engine?
>
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> W10 0-290 Rebuild
>
> Rockford=2C IL
>
>
> From: downing.j@sbcglobal.net
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> Pat=2C glad to see that you are getting motivated on the Tailwind=2C see
> yo
> u at Baraboo. Farmer John
>
>
> From: flamini2@comcast.net
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> Pat=2C
>
> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and has
> lot
> s of archived info.
> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due to
> a
> bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
> Yahoo.
> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch to
> Ya
> hoo.
>
> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>
> Dennis
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: patrick reilly
> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
> Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am currently
> rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. The
> Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount of
> i
> nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active website.
> I
> have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think the
> format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford=2C IL
>
>
> From: flamini2@comcast.net
> list@matronics.com
> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
> JC...not Injuns=3B
>
> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>
> And the GPU
>
> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf
>
> Dennis from Chicago
>
> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
> ronics.com
> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matron
> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>
>
> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
> ronics.com
> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matron
> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:17:09 AM PST US
> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Tailwind-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/27/09
>
>
> Mike=2C Where are you located? What model and engine have you got=2C
> flying
> or building?
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> W10 0-290 Rebuild
>
> Rockford=2C IL
>
>
>> From: wskimike@mchsi.com
>> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Tailwind-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/27/09
>> Date: Sat=2C 28 Feb 2009 05:17:05 -0600
>>
>>
>> It's good to get some tailwind conversation. Thanks
>> Mike
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tailwind-List Digest Server" <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>> To: "Tailwind-List Digest List" <tailwind-list-digest@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Saturday=2C February 28=2C 2009 1:59 AM
>> Subject: Tailwind-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/27/09
>>
>>
>> > *
>> >
>> > ======================
>
>> > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
>> > ======================
>
>> >
>> > Today's complete Tailwind-List Digest can also be found in either of th
> e
>> > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatte
> d
>> > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
>> > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
>> > of the Tailwind-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text edito
> r
>> > such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>> >
>> > HTML Version:
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=htm
> l&Chapter 09-02-27&Archive=Tailwind
>> >
>> > Text Version:
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt
> &Chapter 09-02-27&Archive=Tailwind
>> >
>> >
>> > ======================
> =======================
>> > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
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>> >
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>> > Tailwind-List Digest Archive
>> > ---
>> > Total Messages Posted Fri 02/27/09: 7
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >
>> > Today's Message Index:
>> > ----------------------
>> >
>> > 1. 10:32 AM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>> > 2. 03:13 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Flamini=2C Dennis=2C
>> > Fran)
>> > 3. 04:16 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>> > 4. 04:42 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Flamini=2C Dennis=2C
>> > Fran)
>> > 5. 05:44 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>> > 6. 05:45 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>> > 7. 07:47 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Dave Magaw)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________ Message 1
>> > _____________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > Time: 10:32:07 AM PST US
>> > From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> >
>> > Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am curr
> ently
>> > rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. T
> he
>> > Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount
> of
>> > i
>> > nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active websit
> e.
>> > I
>> > have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think
> the
>> > format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>> >
>> > Pat Reilly
>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> > Rockford=2C IL
>> >
>> >
>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> > list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> >
>> > All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>> > JC...not Injuns=3B
>> >
>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>> >
>> > And the GPU
>> >
>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D
> .pdf
>> >
>> > Dennis from Chicago
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________ Message 2
>> > _____________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > Time: 03:13:36 PM PST US
>> > From: "Flamini=2C Dennis=2C Fran" <flamini2@comcast.net>
>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> > Pat=2C
>> >
>> > The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and has
>> > lots of archived info.
>> > i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due
>> > to ability to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yah
> oo
>> > Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>> > Yahoo.
>> > i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch t
> o
>> > Yahoo.
>> >
>> > Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>> >
>> > Dennis
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: patrick reilly
>> > To: Tailwind Matronics
>> > Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> >
>> > Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>> > currently rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this
>> > summer. The Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an
>> > immense amount of info from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a
>> > more active website. I have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good.
>> > But=2C I don't think the format is as user friendly as this Matronix si
> te.
>> >
>> > Pat Reilly
>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> > Rockford=2C IL
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
>> > -----
>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> > To: thorplist@yahoogroups.com=3B TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com=3B
>> > tailwind-list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> > Date: Fri=2C 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600
>> >
>> >
>> > All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>> > JC...not Injuns=3B
>> >
>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>> >
>> > And the GPU
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D
> .p
>> > df
>> >
>> > Dennis from Chicago
>> >
>> >
>> > t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> > ronics.com
>> > ww.matronics.com/contribution
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________ Message 3
>> > _____________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > Time: 04:16:21 PM PST US
>> > From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> >
>> > Dennis=2C I will send photos at a latter date. I saw the plane on
>> > Barnstorm
>> > ers a year ago in Alabama. It was built in Alabama in 1993 I believe. I
> t
>> > wa
>> > s deregistered=2C dismanteled and sold for scrap on the record. But
> =2C the
>> > only dismanteling was the removale of the wings. A fellow bought it as
>
>> > part
>> > of a package with a couple of engines he wanted and put it on Barnstorm
> ers
>> > . I am rebuilding a Kitfox that will be up and flying in a couple of
>> > months
>> > . A Kitfox cruises at 85mph. I thought that is a great low and slow pla
> ne
>> > a
>> > nd thought an RV would make a great getup and go plane. Saw this W10 fo
> r
>> > ab
>> > out 1/4 of what an RV cost=2C liked the design and history of the Whi
> ttman
>> > and could justify getting it. The plane is actually in better shape tha
> n I
>> > had Hoped by the pictures in barn stormers. The fellow that had it list
> ed
>> > =2C when I asked the condition said what it really needed was a wash
> job.
>> > H
>> > e wasn't lying It looked damn good after I washed it. As a matter of fa
> ct
>> > o
>> > ne guy saw it a couple of days after it was delivered=2C came back a
>
>> > couple
>> > of months later after the wash job and asked me if I had repainted it.
> I w
>> > ill start working on it this summer. And hope to have it up summer of
>> > 2010.
>> > The plane was built with an 0-320 and latter converted to an 0-290 by t
> he
>> > original builder. Are you located in Chicago?
>> >
>> > Pat Reilly
>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> > Rockford=2C IL
>> >
>> >
>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> >
>> > Pat=2C
>> >
>> > The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and has
>
>> > lot
>> > s of archived info.
>> > i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due
> to
>> > a
>> > bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>> > Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>> > Yahoo.
>> > i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch t
> o
>> > Ya
>> > hoo.
>> >
>> > Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>> >
>> > Dennis
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >
>> > From: patrick reilly
>> > Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> > Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am curr
> ently
>> > rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. T
> he
>> > Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount
> of
>> > i
>> > nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active websit
> e.
>> > I
>> > have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think
> the
>> > format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>> >
>> > Pat Reilly
>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> > Rockford=2C IL
>> >
>> >
>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> > list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> >
>> > All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>> > JC...not Injuns=3B
>> >
>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>> >
>> > And the GPU
>> >
>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D
> .pdf
>> >
>> > Dennis from Chicago
>> >
>> > t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> > ronics.com
>> > ww.matronics.com/contribution
>> >
>> >
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.ma
> tron
>> > ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com
> /c
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________ Message 4
>> > _____________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > Time: 04:42:36 PM PST US
>> > From: "Flamini=2C Dennis=2C Fran" <flamini2@comcast.net>
>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> > Pat=2C
>> > We are in the South Suburbs of Chicago about 30 miles South of MDW=2C
>> > Frankfort=2C IL.
>> > i flew a W9 Tailwind for 12 years=2C 1000 hrs and raced it a little=2C
> it
>> > had an 0-360 with CS prop and did about 200 while racing.
>> > The new W10's are a lot faster=2C in the 2006 Airventure we were low on
>> > fuel so throttled back and flew high but a W10 from CA with
>> > 0-320 flew low and fast into mostly headwinds and did 216mph!
>> > See photos of Tailwind=2C N564DF that i sold in 2005 and last raced in
>> > 2006.Also current biplane project.
>> > i am only sport pilot now and hope to be able to lift my leg high enoug
> h
>> > to get in the biplane.
>> > 66 years old and happy to even see 2009.
>> > Dennis from Chicago
>> > PS=3B i attended the RFD EAA flyins from 1963 on and flew a Cougar=2C N
> 6484D
>> > built by Leonard Eaves into the first OSH flyin.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: patrick reilly
>> > To: Tailwind Matronics
>> > Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 6:13 PM
>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> >
>> > Dennis=2C I will send photos at a latter date. I saw the plane on
>> > Barnstormers a year ago in Alabama. It was built in Alabama in 1993 I
>> > believe. It was deregistered=2C dismanteled and sold for scrap on the
>> > record. But=2C the only dismanteling was the removale of the wings. A
>> > fellow bought it as part of a package with a couple of engines he wante
> d
>> > and put it on Barnstormers. I am rebuilding a Kitfox that will be up an
> d
>> > flying in a couple of months. A Kitfox cruises at 85mph. I thought that
>> > is a great low and slow plane and thought an RV would make a great getu
> p
>> > and go plane. Saw this W10 for about 1/4 of what an RV cost=2C liked th
> e
>> > design and history of the Whittman and could justify getting it. The
>> > plane is actually in better shape than I had Hoped by the pictures in
>> > barn stormers. The fellow that had it listed=2C when I asked the condit
> ion
>> > said what it really needed was a wash job. He wasn't lying It looked
>> > damn good after I washed it. As a matter of fact one guy saw it a coupl
> e
>> > of days after it was delivered=2C came back a couple of months later af
> ter
>> > the wash job and asked me if I had repainted it. I will start working o
> n
>> > it this summer. And hope to have it up summer of 2010. The plane was
>> > built with an 0-320 and latter converted to an 0-290 by the original
>> > builder. Are you located in Chicago?
>> >
>> > Pat Reilly
>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> > Rockford=2C IL
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
>> > -----
>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> > Date: Fri=2C 27 Feb 2009 17:11:07 -0600
>> >
>> >
>> > Pat=2C
>> >
>> > The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and
>> > has lots of archived info.
>> > i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due
>> > to ability to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yah
> oo
>> > Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>> > Yahoo.
>> > i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch
>> > to Yahoo.
>> >
>> > Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>> >
>> > Dennis
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: patrick reilly
>> > To: Tailwind Matronics
>> > Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> >
>> > Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>> > currently rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this
>> > summer. The Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an
>> > immense amount of info from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a
>> > more active website. I have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good.
>> > But=2C I don't think the format is as user friendly as this Matronix si
> te.
>> >
>> > Pat Reilly
>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> > Rockford=2C IL
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
>> > ---
>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> > To: thorplist@yahoogroups.com=3B TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com=3B
>> > tailwind-list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> > Date: Fri=2C 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600
>> >
>> >
>> > All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>> > JC...not Injuns=3B
>> >
>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>> >
>> > And the GPU
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D
> .p
>> > df
>> >
>> > Dennis from Chicago
>> >
>> >
>> > t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> > ronics.com
>> > ww.matronics.com/contribution
>> >
>> >
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.ma
> tr
>> > onics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com
> /c
>> >
>> >
>> > t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> > ronics.com
>> > ww.matronics.com/contribution
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________ Message 5
>> > _____________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > Time: 05:44:31 PM PST US
>> > From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> >
>> > Dennis=2C WOW! I finally contacted a real Tailwinder on this site. I
> had
>> > gi
>> > ven up hope. I didn't even know there was a W9. W8 and W10 was all I ev
> er
>> > h
>> > eard of. What biplane project have you got going. I have to have a
>> > biplane.
>> > I like the Skybolt or Marquart Charger. I am a little dismayed though.
> "66
>> > " ain't old. I am "65" and will get my license this spring. I had an
>> > ultral
>> > ight 20 years ago for 3 years. Sold it=2C toyed with the idea of gett
> ing
>> > my
>> > license=2C but was raising a family and didn't really have the time.
> Two y
>> > ears ago we moved to Rockford=2C 1 mile west of runway 7=2C found E
> AA Chp
>> > 2
>> > 2 and a hotbed of experimental aircraft aviation at Cottonwood airport
>
>> > here
>> > in Rockford. Streetrods are fun=2C motorcycles are crazy=2C airplan
> es... t
>> > hey are reserved for the insane. Can't wait to meet you and pick your
>> > brain
>> > on the Tailwind.
>> >
>> > Pat Reilly
>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> > Rockford=2C IL
>> >
>> >
>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> >
>> > Pat=2C
>> > We are in the South Suburbs of Chicago about 30 miles South of MDW=2C
>
>> > Frank
>> > fort=2C IL.
>> > i flew a W9 Tailwind for 12 years=2C 1000 hrs and raced it a little
> =2C it
>> > h
>> > ad an 0-360 with CS prop and did about 200 while racing.
>> > The new W10's are a lot faster=2C in the 2006 Airventure we were low
> on
>> > fue
>> > l so throttled back and flew high but a W10 from CA with
>> > 0-320 flew low and fast into mostly headwinds and did 216mph!
>> > See photos of Tailwind=2C N564DF that i sold in 2005 and last raced i
> n
>> > 2006
>> > .Also current biplane project.
>> > i am only sport pilot now and hope to be able to lift my leg high enoug
> h
>> > to
>> > get in the biplane.
>> > 66 years old and happy to even see 2009.
>> > Dennis from Chicago
>> > PS=3B i attended the RFD EAA flyins from 1963 on and flew a Cougar
> 2C
>> > N6484
>> > D built by Leonard Eaves into the first OSH flyin.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: patrick reilly
>> > Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 6:13 PM
>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> > Dennis=2C I will send photos at a latter date. I saw the plane on
>> > Barnstorm
>> > ers a year ago in Alabama. It was built in Alabama in 1993 I believe. I
> t
>> > wa
>> > s deregistered=2C dismanteled and sold for scrap on the record. But
> =2C the
>> > only dismanteling was the removale of the wings. A fellow bought it as
>
>> > part
>> > of a package with a couple of engines he wanted and put it on Barnstorm
> ers
>> > . I am rebuilding a Kitfox that will be up and flying in a couple of
>> > months
>> > . A Kitfox cruises at 85mph. I thought that is a great low and slow pla
> ne
>> > a
>> > nd thought an RV would make a great getup and go plane. Saw this W10 fo
> r
>> > ab
>> > out 1/4 of what an RV cost=2C liked the design and history of the Whi
> ttman
>> > and could justify getting it. The plane is actually in better shape tha
> n I
>> > had Hoped by the pictures in barn stormers. The fellow that had it list
> ed
>> > =2C when I asked the condition said what it really needed was a wash
> job.
>> > H
>> > e wasn't lying It looked damn good after I washed it. As a matter of fa
> ct
>> > o
>> > ne guy saw it a couple of days after it was delivered=2C came back a
>
>> > couple
>> > of months later after the wash job and asked me if I had repainted it.
> I w
>> > ill start working on it this summer. And hope to have it up summer of
>> > 2010.
>> > The plane was built with an 0-320 and latter converted to an 0-290 by t
> he
>> > original builder. Are you located in Chicago?
>> >
>> > Pat Reilly
>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> > Rockford=2C IL
>> >
>> >
>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> >
>> > Pat=2C
>> >
>> > The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and has
>
>> > lot
>> > s of archived info.
>> > i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due
> to
>> > a
>> > bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>> > Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>> > Yahoo.
>> > i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch t
> o
>> > Ya
>> > hoo.
>> >
>> > Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>> >
>> > Dennis
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >
>> > From: patrick reilly
>> > Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> > Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am curr
> ently
>> > rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. T
> he
>> > Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount
> of
>> > i
>> > nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active websit
> e.
>> > I
>> > have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think
> the
>> > format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>> >
>> > Pat Reilly
>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> > Rockford=2C IL
>> >
>> >
>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> > list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> >
>> > All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>> > JC...not Injuns=3B
>> >
>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>> >
>> > And the GPU
>> >
>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D
> .pdf
>> >
>> > Dennis from Chicago
>> >
>> > t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> > ronics.com
>> > ww.matronics.com/contribution
>> >
>> >
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.ma
> tron
>> > ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com
> /c
>> >
>> >
>> > t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> > ronics.com
>> > ww.matronics.com/contribution
>> >
>> >
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.ma
> tron
>> > ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com
> /c
>> >
>> > ________________________________ Message 6
>> > _____________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > Time: 05:45:56 PM PST US
>> > From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> >
>> > Dennis=2C WOW! I finally contacted a real Tailwinder on this site. I
> had
>> > gi
>> > ven up hope. I didn't even know there was a W9. W8 and W10 was all I ev
> er
>> > h
>> > eard of. What biplane project have you got going. I have to have a
>> > biplane.
>> > I like the Skybolt or Marquart Charger. I am a little dismayed though.
> "66
>> > " ain't old. I am "65" and will get my license this spring. I had an
>> > ultral
>> > ight 20 years ago for 3 years. Sold it=2C toyed with the idea of gett
> ing
>> > my
>> > license=2C but was raising a family and didn't really have the time.
> Two y
>> > ears ago we moved to Rockford=2C 1 mile west of runway 7=2C found E
> AA Chp
>> > 2
>> > 2 and a hotbed of experimental aircraft aviation at Cottonwood airport
>
>> > here
>> > in Rockford. Streetrods are fun=2C motorcycles are crazy=2C airplan
> es... t
>> > hey are reserved for the insane. Can't wait to meet you and pick your
>> > brain
>> > on the Tailwind.
>> >
>> > Pat Reilly
>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> > Rockford=2C IL
>> >
>> >
>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> >
>> > Pat=2C
>> > We are in the South Suburbs of Chicago about 30 miles South of MDW=2C
>
>> > Frank
>> > fort=2C IL.
>> > i flew a W9 Tailwind for 12 years=2C 1000 hrs and raced it a little
> =2C it
>> > h
>> > ad an 0-360 with CS prop and did about 200 while racing.
>> > The new W10's are a lot faster=2C in the 2006 Airventure we were low
> on
>> > fue
>> > l so throttled back and flew high but a W10 from CA with
>> > 0-320 flew low and fast into mostly headwinds and did 216mph!
>> > See photos of Tailwind=2C N564DF that i sold in 2005 and last raced i
> n
>> > 2006
>> > .Also current biplane project.
>> > i am only sport pilot now and hope to be able to lift my leg high enoug
> h
>> > to
>> > get in the biplane.
>> > 66 years old and happy to even see 2009.
>> > Dennis from Chicago
>> > PS=3B i attended the RFD EAA flyins from 1963 on and flew a Cougar
> 2C
>> > N6484
>> > D built by Leonard Eaves into the first OSH flyin.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: patrick reilly
>> > Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 6:13 PM
>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> > Dennis=2C I will send photos at a latter date. I saw the plane on
>> > Barnstorm
>> > ers a year ago in Alabama. It was built in Alabama in 1993 I believe. I
> t
>> > wa
>> > s deregistered=2C dismanteled and sold for scrap on the record. But
> =2C the
>> > only dismanteling was the removale of the wings. A fellow bought it as
>
>> > part
>> > of a package with a couple of engines he wanted and put it on Barnstorm
> ers
>> > . I am rebuilding a Kitfox that will be up and flying in a couple of
>> > months
>> > . A Kitfox cruises at 85mph. I thought that is a great low and slow pla
> ne
>> > a
>> > nd thought an RV would make a great getup and go plane. Saw this W10 fo
> r
>> > ab
>> > out 1/4 of what an RV cost=2C liked the design and history of the Whi
> ttman
>> > and could justify getting it. The plane is actually in better shape tha
> n I
>> > had Hoped by the pictures in barn stormers. The fellow that had it list
> ed
>> > =2C when I asked the condition said what it really needed was a wash
> job.
>> > H
>> > e wasn't lying It looked damn good after I washed it. As a matter of fa
> ct
>> > o
>> > ne guy saw it a couple of days after it was delivered=2C came back a
>
>> > couple
>> > of months later after the wash job and asked me if I had repainted it.
> I w
>> > ill start working on it this summer. And hope to have it up summer of
>> > 2010.
>> > The plane was built with an 0-320 and latter converted to an 0-290 by t
> he
>> > original builder. Are you located in Chicago?
>> >
>> > Pat Reilly
>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> > Rockford=2C IL
>> >
>> >
>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> >
>> > Pat=2C
>> >
>> > The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and has
>
>> > lot
>> > s of archived info.
>> > i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due
> to
>> > a
>> > bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>> > Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>> > Yahoo.
>> > i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch t
> o
>> > Ya
>> > hoo.
>> >
>> > Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>> >
>> > Dennis
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >
>> > From: patrick reilly
>> > Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> > Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am curr
> ently
>> > rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. T
> he
>> > Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount
> of
>> > i
>> > nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active websit
> e.
>> > I
>> > have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think
> the
>> > format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>> >
>> > Pat Reilly
>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> > Rockford=2C IL
>> >
>> >
>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> > list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> >
>> > All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>> > JC...not Injuns=3B
>> >
>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>> >
>> > And the GPU
>> >
>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D
> .pdf
>> >
>> > Dennis from Chicago
>> >
>> > t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> > ronics.com
>> > ww.matronics.com/contribution
>> >
>> >
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.ma
> tron
>> > ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com
> /c
>> >
>> >
>> > t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> > ronics.com
>> > ww.matronics.com/contribution
>> >
>> >
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.ma
> tron
>> > ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com
> /c
>> >
>> > ________________________________ Message 7
>> > _____________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > Time: 07:47:53 PM PST US
>> > From: Dave Magaw <pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com>
>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> >
>> > Not quite correct Dennis.- Actually the history of the Tailwind Forum (
> Ya
>> > hoo) and Tailwind List (Matronics) is basically as follows:=0A=0ABu
> rt
>> > Rudol
>> > ph first had the Tailwind e-mail list on his website back in the late
>> > 1990'
>> > s.- That is when I first joined the group.- His list worked for a time
> =2C
>> > then he had troubles maintaining it and periodically it would go down.-
>> > He got it going again for a short time=2C but at that time it was a lot
> of
>> > wo
>> > rk to maintain a list.- His website was http://www.chlassociates.com/Av
> ia
>> > tion/tailwind.htm-but it is no longer available and it hadn't been upda
> te
>> > d in years.=0A=0AWhen Jerry Hey took over the Tailwind Times (late
> 1990s
>> > or
>> > 2000)=2C he also set up the "Tailwind Forum" e-mail group.- I don't rem
> emb
>> > er how long he was able to manage it=2C I think it was about a year=2C
> perhaps
>> > even two=2C but then he also had problems maintaining it and protecting
>
>> > again
>> > st spam.- After it went down=2C I suggested to Jerry that perhaps we sh
> ould
>> > start a Yahoo group=2C which a number of other aircraft groups had also
> done
>> > .- Jerry asked me to set it up and so I did in August 2001--I followed
> Je
>> > rry's lead (with his blessing) and named it the "Tailwind Forum".- =0
> A=0A
>> > About perhaps a year or more-later=2C Matronics was setting up its vari
> ous
>> > e-mail groups=2C and was successful with the RV types among others.- He
> exp
>> > anded to include the "Tailwind-List" among others.- Many liked this bec
> au
>> > se the Matronics Lists didn't have advertisement=2C but for a long time
> it
>> > co
>> > uld not accommodate pictures.- This was later modified and pictures and
> f
>> > iles were allowed=2C but the Matronics Tailwind List never became popul
> ar
>> > com
>> > pared to the Tailwind Forum=2C though it has had its stalwart supporter
> s.-
>> > I think this was for a variety of reasons=2C the monthly admonitions ab
> out
>> > co
>> > ntent on the forums=2C the annual fundraiser/plea for money=2C and the
> lack of
>> > flexibility and content that the Yahoo groups allow (these are my perso
> nal
>> > opinions mindya!).- =0A=0AThe Yahoo Tailwind Forum currently has 88
> 5 memb
>> > ers worldwide=2C and a wealth of information on the Tailwind-between th
> e pi
>> > ctures=2C links and files on the forum site=2C not to mention the avera
> ge of
>> > 40
>> > 0 to over 800 posts per month=2C which are archived and searchable.- Ye
> s it
>> > still has some advertisement=2C but it is fairly unobtrusive.- It allow
> s t
>> > he owners and-moderators to be changed=2C and the group can have input
> into
>> > these if they need to.- For example=2C on another Yahoo group that I fr
> equ
>> > ent=2C the Owner disappeared=2C and the group was getting a fair amount
> of
>> > spam
>> > because the membership was wide open to anyone.- I worked with Yahoo=2C
> an
>> > d we got two new moderators who now monitor the memberships=2C and who
> have
>> > p
>> > ut much more content on the site.- It is now-much better.=0A=0AI am
> not
>> > trying to bash the Tailwind list--I have been a member of it since ince
> pti
>> > on--and it is=2C and always has been=2C-listed on the Tailwind forum as
> an al
>> > ternate group.- However=2C like many Matronics groups=2C it is not used
> very
>> > much.- I know this is not the preference of those who like the Matronic
> s
>> > group better=2C but it is the fact.=0A=0ADave Magaw=0AN168A=0AS
> acramento=2C CA
>> > =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "Fl
> amini=2C Dennis=2C
>> > F
>> > ran" <flamini2@comcast.net>=0ATo: tailwind-list@matronics.com=0ASen
> t:
>> > Frida
>> > y=2C February 27=2C 2009 3:11:07 PM=0ASubject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-2
> 90 and
>> > oth
>> > er Lycoming info=0A=0A=0APat=2C=0A-=0AThe Tailwind forum at m
> atronics was t
>> > he only site for some time and has lots of archived info.=0Ai think i
> t was
>> > one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due to ability to-a
> dd
>> > photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo=0AMatt added
> the sam
>> > e thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on Yahoo.=0Ai try to
> post
>> > t
>> > o both since i have some friends that refuse to switch to Yahoo.=0A-
> =0ATe
>> > ll me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?=0A-
> =0ADen
>> > nis=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFro
> m: patrick reill
>> > y =0ATo: Tailwind Matronics =0ASent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009
> 12:29
>> > PM=0AS
>> > ubject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info=0ADennis=2C
> I live
>> > i
>> > n Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am currently rebuilding a
>> > Kitfo
>> > x and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. The- Matronix websi
> te
>> > is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount of info from the
> web
>> > site. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active website. I have been t
> old
>> > the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think the format is as
> user
>> > friendly as this Matronix site.=0A=0APat Reilly=0AMod 3 582
>> > Rebuild=0ARockf
>> > ord=2C IL=0A=0A=0A=0A-=0A________________________________=0
> AFrom: flamini2@
>> > comcast.net=0ATo: thorplist@yahoogroups.com=3B
>> > TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com=3B
>> > tailwind-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other
> Lyco
>> > ming info=0ADate: Fri=2C 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600=0A=0A=0AAll
> you ever
>> > want
>> > ed to know about Lycoming engines=2C=0AJC...not Injuns=3B=0A-=0Ah
> ttp://www.7t
>> > s0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/=0A-=0AAnd the GPU=0A-=0Ahttp://www
> .7ts0.co
>> > m/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf=0A-=0ADen
> nis fr
>> > om Chicago=0A t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> > ronic
>> > s.com ww.matronics.com/contribution =0A href="http://www.matronics
>> > .com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwi
> nd-L
>> > ist href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com hr
> ef
>> > ="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
> =0A
>> > =========== =0A=0A=0A
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
> ==========
> ==========
> ==========
> ==========
>>
>>
>>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:32:16 AM PST US
> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> Dave=2C thanks for the info. I am used to the Matronix format so I like
> it.
> I am a Hotmail subscriber not Yahoo. I started to sign up for Tailwind for
> um on Yahoo. I might have even completed signing up but found the format
> co
> nfusing after the simplisity of the Matronix site. I don't mind
> contributin
> g to the website founder as I would never spend the kind of time it takes
> t
> o put one of these together and feel I he deserves it=2C no matter what
> th
> e cost=2C I ain't no freeloader. I could not have rebuilt my Kitfox
> without
> the info of other members. I guess I will have to sit down and force mysel
> f to become familiar with the Yahoo website if I am going to use the
> intern
> et for Tailwind info. I guess you ain't going to bring the mountain to me.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford=2C IL
>
>
> From: pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> Not quite correct Dennis. Actually the history of the Tailwind Forum
> (Yaho
> o) and Tailwind List (Matronics) is basically as follows:
>
> Burt Rudolph first had the Tailwind e-mail list on his website back in the
> late 1990's. That is when I first joined the group. His list worked for
> a
> time=2C then he had troubles maintaining it and periodically it would go d
> own. He got it going again for a short time=2C but at that time it was a
> l
> ot of work to maintain a list. His website was
> http://www.chlassociates.co
> m/Aviation/tailwind.htm but it is no longer available and it hadn't been
> up
> dated in years.
>
> When Jerry Hey took over the Tailwind Times (late 1990s or 2000)=2C he
> also
> set up the "Tailwind Forum" e-mail group. I don't remember how long he wa
> s able to manage it=2C I think it was about a year=2C perhaps even two=2C
> b
> ut then he also had problems maintaining it and protecting against spam.
> A
> fter it went down=2C I suggested to Jerry that perhaps we should start a
> Ya
> hoo group=2C which a number of other aircraft groups had also done. Jerry
> asked me to set it up and so I did in August 2001--I followed Jerry's lead
> (with his blessing) and named it the "Tailwind Forum".
>
> About perhaps a year or more later=2C Matronics was setting up its various
> e-mail groups=2C and was successful with the RV types among others. He
> exp
> anded to include the "Tailwind-List" among others. Many liked this
> because
> the Matronics Lists didn't have advertisement=2C but for a long time it co
> uld not accommodate pictures. This was later modified and pictures and
> fil
> es were allowed=2C but the Matronics Tailwind List never became popular
> com
> pared to the Tailwind Forum=2C though it has had its stalwart supporters.
> I think this was for a variety of reasons=2C the monthly admonitions about
> content on the forums=2C the annual fundraiser/plea for money=2C and the
> la
> ck of flexibility and content that the Yahoo groups allow (these are my
> per
> sonal opinions mindya!).
>
> The Yahoo Tailwind Forum currently has 885 members worldwide=2C and a
> wealt
> h of information on the Tailwind between the pictures=2C links and files
> on
> the forum site=2C not to mention the average of 400 to over 800 posts per
> month=2C which are archived and searchable. Yes it still has some
> advertis
> ement=2C but it is fairly unobtrusive. It allows the owners and
> moderators
> to be changed=2C and the group can have input into these if they need to.
> For example=2C on another Yahoo group that I frequent=2C the Owner disappe
> ared=2C and the group was getting a fair amount of spam because the
> members
> hip was wide open to anyone. I worked with Yahoo=2C and we got two new
> mod
> erators who now monitor the memberships=2C and who have put much more
> conte
> nt on the site. It is now much better.
>
> I am not trying to bash the Tailwind list--I have been a member of it
> since
> inception--and it is=2C and always has been=2C listed on the Tailwind foru
> m as an alternate group. However=2C like many Matronics groups=2C it is
> no
> t used very much. I know this is not the preference of those who like the
> Matronics group better=2C but it is the fact.
>
> Dave Magaw
> N168A
> Sacramento=2C CA
>
>
> From: "Flamini=2C Dennis=2C Fran" <flamini2@comcast.net>
> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 3:11:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> Pat=2C
>
> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and has
> lot
> s of archived info.
> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due to
> a
> bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
> Yahoo.
> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch to
> Ya
> hoo.
>
> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>
> Dennis
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: patrick reilly
> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
> Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am currently
> rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. The
> Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount of
> i
> nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active website.
> I
> have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think the
> format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford=2C IL
>
>
> From: flamini2@comcast.net
> list@matronics.com
> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
> JC...not Injuns=3B
>
> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>
> And the GPU
>
> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf
>
> Dennis from Chicago t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
> ronics.com ww.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matron
> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwin
> d-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com h
> ref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
> Tailwind-List" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Na
> vironics.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://forums.matronics.comww
> w.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.m
> ====================
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 09:07:53 AM PST US
> From: Dave Magaw <pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
> If you need Yahoo help, let me or Dan Doolin (the other Tailwind forum
> mode
> rator, who is very computer savvy) know.- Basically all you need is a Yah
> oo ID and password, but you will have to use them to access many of the
> fea
> tures of the Tailwind forum site.- =0A=0AYes it is true that maintaining
> e-mail groups does take time and effort, and hardware costs, not to
> mention
> overhead, etc, and somehow that cost has to be paid.- Google and Yahoo d
> o it through advertising, Matronics through donations.- =0A=0AGood to see
> another tailwind progressing, definitely get you and your Kitfox to Barabo
> o if
> possible.=0A=0ADave=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AF
> rom: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>=0ATo: Tailwind Matronics
> <tai
> lwind-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:31:56
> AM=0A
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info=0A=0ADave,
> thanks
> for the info. I am used to the Matronix format so I like it. I am a Hotmai
> l subscriber not Yahoo. I started to sign up for Tailwind forum on Yahoo.
> I
> might have even completed signing up but found the format confusing after
> the simplisity of the Matronix site. I don't mind contributing to the
> websi
> te founder as I would never spend the kind of time it takes to put one of
> t
> hese together and feel- I-he deserves it, no matter what the cost, I ai
> n't no freeloader. I could not have rebuilt my Kitfox without the info of
> -other members. I guess I will have to sit down and force myself to becom
> e familiar with the Yahoo website if I am going to use the internet for
> Tai
> lwind info. I guess-you-ain't going to bring the mountain to me.=0A=0AP
> at Reilly=0AMod 3 582 Rebuild=0ARockford, IL=0A=0A=0A=0A-=0A_____________
> ___________________=0ADate: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:45:34 -0800=0AFrom:
> pittsfl
> yers1s@yahoo.com=0ASubject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming
> inf
> o=0ATo: tailwind-list@matronics.com;
> TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com=0A=0A=0A
> Not quite correct Dennis.- Actually the history of the Tailwind Forum (Ya
> hoo) and Tailwind List (Matronics) is basically as follows:=0A=0ABurt
> Rudol
> ph first had the Tailwind e-mail list on his website back in the late
> 1990'
> s.- That is when I first joined the group.- His list worked for a time,
> then he had troubles maintaining it and periodically it would go down.-
> He got it going again for a short time, but at that time it was a lot of
> wo
> rk to maintain a list.- His website was http://www.chlassociates.com/Avia
> tion/tailwind.htm-but it is no longer available and it hadn't been update
> d in years.=0A=0AWhen Jerry Hey took over the Tailwind Times (late 1990s
> or
> 2000), he also set up the "Tailwind Forum" e-mail group.- I don't rememb
> er how long he was able to manage it, I think it was about a year, perhaps
> even two, but then he also had problems maintaining it and protecting
> again
> st spam.- After it went down, I suggested to Jerry that perhaps we should
> start a Yahoo group, which a number of other aircraft groups had also done
> .- Jerry asked me to set it up and so I did in August 2001--I followed Je
> rry's lead (with his blessing) and named it the "Tailwind Forum".- =0A=0A
> About perhaps a year or more-later, Matronics was setting up its various
> e-mail groups, and was successful with the RV types among others.- He exp
> anded to include the "Tailwind-List" among others.- Many liked this becau
> se the Matronics Lists didn't have advertisement, but for a long time it
> co
> uld not accommodate pictures.- This was later modified and pictures and f
> iles were allowed, but the Matronics Tailwind List never became popular
> com
> pared to the Tailwind Forum, though it has had its stalwart supporters.-
> I think this was for a variety of reasons, the monthly admonitions about
> co
> ntent on the forums, the annual fundraiser/plea for money, and the lack of
> flexibility and content that the Yahoo groups allow (these are my personal
> opinions mindya!).- =0A=0AThe Yahoo Tailwind Forum currently has 885 memb
> ers worldwide, and a wealth of information on the Tailwind-between the pi
> ctures, links and files on the forum site, not to mention the average of
> 40
> 0 to over 800 posts per month, which are archived and searchable.- Yes it
> still has some advertisement, but it is fairly unobtrusive.- It allows t
> he owners and-moderators to be changed, and the group can have input into
> these if they need to.- For example, on another Yahoo group that I frequ
> ent, the Owner disappeared, and the group was getting a fair amount of
> spam
> because the membership was wide open to anyone.- I worked with Yahoo, an
> d we got two new moderators who now monitor the memberships, and who have
> p
> ut much more content on the site.- It is now-much better.=0A=0AI am not
> trying to bash the Tailwind list--I have been a member of it since incepti
> on--and it is, and always has been,-listed on the Tailwind forum as an al
> ternate group.- However, like many Matronics groups, it is not used very
> much.- I know this is not the preference of those who like the Matronics
> group better, but it is the fact.=0A=0ADave Magaw=0AN168A=0ASacramento, CA
> =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "Flamini, Dennis,
> F
> ran" <flamini2@comcast.net>=0ATo: tailwind-list@matronics.com=0ASent:
> Frida
> y, February 27, 2009 3:11:07 PM=0ASubject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and
> oth
> er Lycoming info=0A=0A=0APat,=0A-=0AThe Tailwind forum at matronics was t
> he only site for some time and has lots of archived info.=0Ai think it was
> one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due to ability to-add
> photos to posts, shortly after most switched to Yahoo=0AMatt added the sam
> e thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on Yahoo.=0Ai try to post
> t
> o both since i have some friends that refuse to switch to Yahoo.=0A-=0ATe
> ll me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?=0A-=0ADen
> nis=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: patrick reill
> y =0ATo: Tailwind Matronics =0ASent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:29
> PM=0AS
> ubject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info=0ADennis, I live
> i
> n Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am currently rebuilding a
> Kitfo
> x and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. The- Matronix website
> is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount of info from the web
> site. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active website. I have been told
> the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But, I don't think the format is as user
> friendly as this Matronix site.=0A=0APat Reilly=0AMod 3 582
> Rebuild=0ARockf
> ord, IL=0A=0A=0A=0A-=0A________________________________=0AFrom: flamini2@
> comcast.net=0ATo: thorplist@yahoogroups.com;
> TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com;
> tailwind-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lyco
> ming info=0ADate: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600=0A=0A=0AAll you ever
> want
> ed to know about Lycoming engines,=0AJC...not Injuns;=0A-=0Ahttp://www.7t
> s0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/=0A-=0AAnd the GPU=0A-=0Ahttp://www.7ts0.co
> m/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf=0A-=0ADennis fr
> om Chicago=0A t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
> ronic
> s.com ww.matronics.com/contribution =0A href="http://www.matronics
> .com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-L
> ist href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href
> ="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =0A
> Tailwind-List" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Na
> vironics.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://forums.matronics.comww
> w.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.m
> ===================== =0A=0A
> =0A=0At">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List=0Aronics.com=0Aww
> ======0A=0A=0A
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 09:46:40 AM PST US
> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> Dave=2C Your's=2C and a few other's messages don't read down the page
> witho
> ut moving the screen right to left. I would imagine that some how or other
> you are in landscape format. Is that correct=2C and=2C if so why? It is
> dif
> ficult to read a message moving the screen back and forth. I have seen
> this
> before and it just dawned on me it looks like the landscape format.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford=2C IL
>
>
> From: pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> If you need Yahoo help=2C let me or Dan Doolin (the other Tailwind forum
> mo
> derator=2C who is very computer savvy) know. Basically all you need is a
> Y
> ahoo ID and password=2C but you will have to use them to access many of
> the
> features of the Tailwind forum site.
>
> Yes it is true that maintaining e-mail groups does take time and effort=2C
> and hardware costs=2C not to mention overhead=2C etc=2C and somehow that
> co
> st has to be paid. Google and Yahoo do it through advertising=2C
> Matronics
> through donations.
>
> Good to see another tailwind progressing=2C definitely get you and your
> Kit
> fox to Baraboo if possible.
>
> Dave
>
>
> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday=2C February 28=2C 2009 7:31:56 AM
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> Dave=2C thanks for the info. I am used to the Matronix format so I like
> it.
> I am a Hotmail subscriber not Yahoo. I started to sign up for Tailwind for
> um on Yahoo. I might have even completed signing up but found the format
> co
> nfusing after the simplisity of the Matronix site. I don't mind
> contributin
> g to the website founder as I would never spend the kind of time it takes
> t
> o put one of these together and feel I he deserves it=2C no matter what
> th
> e cost=2C I ain't no freeloader. I could not have rebuilt my Kitfox
> without
> the info of other members. I guess I will have to sit down and force mysel
> f to become familiar with the Yahoo website if I am going to use the
> intern
> et for Tailwind info. I guess you ain't going to bring the mountain to me.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford=2C IL
>
>
> From: pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> Not quite correct Dennis. Actually the history of the Tailwind Forum
> (Yaho
> o) and Tailwind List (Matronics) is basically as follows:
>
> Burt Rudolph first had the Tailwind e-mail list on his website back in the
> late 1990's. That is when I first joined the group. His list worked for
> a
> time=2C then he had troubles maintaining it and periodically it would go d
> own. He got it going again for a short time=2C but at that time it was a
> l
> ot of work to maintain a list. His website was
> http://www.chlassociates.co
> m/Aviation/tailwind.htm but it is no longer available and it hadn't been
> up
> dated in years.
>
> When Jerry Hey took over the Tailwind Times (late 1990s or 2000)=2C he
> also
> set up the "Tailwind Forum" e-mail group. I don't remember how long he wa
> s able to manage it=2C I think it was about a year=2C perhaps even two=2C
> b
> ut then he also had problems maintaining it and protecting against spam.
> A
> fter it went down=2C I suggested to Jerry that perhaps we should start a
> Ya
> hoo group=2C which a number of other aircraft groups had also done. Jerry
> asked me to set it up and so I did in August 2001--I followed Jerry's lead
> (with his blessing) and named it the "Tailwind Forum".
>
> About perhaps a year or more later=2C Matronics was setting up its various
> e-mail groups=2C and was successful with the RV types among others. He
> exp
> anded to include the "Tailwind-List" among others. Many liked this
> because
> the Matronics Lists didn't have advertisement=2C but for a long time it co
> uld not accommodate pictures. This was later modified and pictures and
> fil
> es were allowed=2C but the Matronics Tailwind List never became popular
> com
> pared to the Tailwind Forum=2C though it has had its stalwart supporters.
> I think this was for a variety of reasons=2C the monthly admonitions about
> content on the forums=2C the annual fundraiser/plea for money=2C and the
> la
> ck of flexibility and content that the Yahoo groups allow (these are my
> per
> sonal opinions mindya!).
>
> The Yahoo Tailwind Forum currently has 885 members worldwide=2C and a
> wealt
> h of information on the Tailwind between the pictures=2C links and files
> on
> the forum site=2C not to mention the average of 400 to over 800 posts per
> month=2C which are archived and searchable. Yes it still has some
> advertis
> ement=2C but it is fairly unobtrusive. It allows the owners and
> moderators
> to be changed=2C and the group can have input into these if they need to.
> For example=2C on another Yahoo group that I frequent=2C the Owner disappe
> ared=2C and the group was getting a fair amount of spam because the
> members
> hip was wide open to anyone. I worked with Yahoo=2C and we got two new
> mod
> erators who now monitor the memberships=2C and who have put much more
> conte
> nt on the site. It is now much better.
>
> I am not trying to bash the Tailwind list--I have been a member of it
> since
> inception--and it is=2C and always has been=2C listed on the Tailwind foru
> m as an alternate group. However=2C like many Matronics groups=2C it is
> no
> t used very much. I know this is not the preference of those who like the
> Matronics group better=2C but it is the fact.
>
> Dave Magaw
> N168A
> Sacramento=2C CA
>
>
> From: "Flamini=2C Dennis=2C Fran" <flamini2@comcast.net>
> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 3:11:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> Pat=2C
>
> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and has
> lot
> s of archived info.
> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due to
> a
> bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
> Yahoo.
> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch to
> Ya
> hoo.
>
> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>
> Dennis
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: patrick reilly
> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
> Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am currently
> rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. The
> Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount of
> i
> nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active website.
> I
> have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think the
> format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford=2C IL
>
>
> From: flamini2@comcast.net
> list@matronics.com
> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
> JC...not Injuns=3B
>
> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>
> And the GPU
>
> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf
>
> Dennis from Chicago t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
> ronics.com ww.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matron
> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwin
> d-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com h
> ref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
> Tailwind-List" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Na
> vironics.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://forums.matronics.comww
> w.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.m
> ====================
>
>
> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
> ronics.com
> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tnics.com/" target=_blank rel=nofoll
> ow>http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contributio
> n" target=_blank rel=nofol
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 10:33:25 AM PST US
> From: "John Downing" <downing.j@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Tailwind-List: Baraboo
>
> Pat, I like many others am planning the trip to Baraboo again this year.
> My Tailwind, a W-10, Mazda powered, was together and weighed 3 weeks
> ago, but is apart again to modify and correct some things. I'm not sure
> if my granddaughter Caitlyn will be able to attend Baraboo this year or
> not, she will be a junior in high school and the kid is active in many
> different things. I follow both of the Tailwind list's on line and
> there being over 800 folks on the Yahoo site, it is the dominate one. so
> sign up and enjoy the site and all the Baraboo gang's pictures and
> activities. Farmer John....Marion, MI
>
> ________________________________ Message 9
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 10:42:19 AM PST US
> From: "Mike & \"Jaz\"" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
> And there's always three of the same message....
> -
> -Somebody has it on "Full Auto".....
> -------------------------
> -------------------------
> -- Gotta Fly...
>
>
> Buttercup - STOL - Aircraft
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Buttercup-STOL/
>
> Firestar I&II - STOL - Aircraft
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kolb_Firestar/
>
> My Web Site:
> http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
> -
> Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way
> do
> wn...
>
>
> --- On Sat, 2/28/09, patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> #yiv680254161 .hmmessage P
> {
> margin:0px;padding:0px;}
> #yiv680254161 {
> font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}
>
> Dave, Your's, and a few other's messages don't read down the page without
> m
> oving the screen right to left. I would imagine that some how or other you
> are in landscape format. Is that correct, and, if so why? It is difficult
> t
> o read-a message moving the screen back and forth. I have seen this befor
> e and it just dawned on me it looks like the landscape format.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford, IL
>
>
> -
>
>
> From: pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> #yiv680254161 .ExternalClass DIV
> {}
>
>
> If you need Yahoo help, let me or Dan Doolin (the other Tailwind forum
> mode
> rator, who is very computer savvy) know.- Basically all you need is a Yah
> oo ID and password, but you will have to use them to access many of the
> fea
> tures of the Tailwind forum site.-
> -
> Yes it is true that maintaining e-mail groups does take time and effort,
> an
> d hardware costs, not to mention overhead, etc, and somehow that cost has
> t
> o be paid.- Google and Yahoo do it through advertising, Matronics through
> donations.-
> -
> Good to see another tailwind progressing, definitely get you and your
> Kitfo
> x to Baraboo if possible.
> -
> Dave
>
>
> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:31:56 AM
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> #yiv680254161 .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P
> {padding:0px;}
> #yiv680254161 .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage
> {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}
>
> Dave, thanks for the info. I am used to the Matronix format so I like it.
> I
> am a Hotmail subscriber not Yahoo. I started to sign up for Tailwind forum
> on Yahoo. I might have even completed signing up but found the format conf
> using after the simplisity of the Matronix site. I don't mind contributing
> to the website founder as I would never spend the kind of time it takes to
> put one of these together and feel- I-he deserves it, no matter what th
> e cost, I ain't no freeloader. I could not have rebuilt my Kitfox without
> t
> he info of-other members. I guess I will have to sit down and force mysel
> f to become familiar with the Yahoo website if I am going to use the
> intern
> et for Tailwind info. I guess-you-ain't going to bring the mountain to
> me.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford, IL
>
>
> -
>
>
> From: pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> #yiv680254161 .ExternalClass DIV
> {}
>
>
> Not quite correct Dennis.- Actually the history of the Tailwind Forum (Ya
> hoo) and Tailwind List (Matronics) is basically as follows:
> -
> Burt Rudolph first had the Tailwind e-mail list on his website back in the
> late 1990's.- That is when I first joined the group.- His list worked f
> or a time, then he had troubles maintaining it and periodically it would
> go
> down.- He got it going again for a short time, but at that time it was a
> lot of work to maintain a list.- His website was http://www.chlassociate
> s.com/Aviation/tailwind.htm-but it is no longer available and it hadn't b
> een updated in years.
> -
> When Jerry Hey took over the Tailwind Times (late 1990s or 2000), he also
> s
> et up the "Tailwind Forum" e-mail group.- I don't remember how long he wa
> s able to manage it, I think it was about a year, perhaps even two, but
> the
> n he also had problems maintaining it and protecting against spam.- After
> it went down, I suggested to Jerry that perhaps we should start a Yahoo gr
> oup, which a number of other aircraft groups had also done.- Jerry asked
> me to set it up and so I did in August 2001--I followed Jerry's lead (with
> his blessing) and named it the "Tailwind Forum".-
> -
> About perhaps a year or more-later, Matronics was setting up its various
> e-mail groups, and was successful with the RV types among others.- He exp
> anded to include the "Tailwind-List" among others.- Many liked this becau
> se the Matronics Lists didn't have advertisement, but for a long time it
> co
> uld not accommodate pictures.- This was later modified and pictures and f
> iles were allowed, but the Matronics Tailwind List never became popular
> com
> pared to the Tailwind Forum, though it has had its stalwart supporters.-
> I think this was for a variety of reasons, the monthly admonitions about
> co
> ntent on the forums, the annual fundraiser/plea for money, and the lack of
> flexibility and content that the Yahoo groups allow (these are my personal
> opinions mindya!).-
> -
> The Yahoo Tailwind Forum currently has 885 members worldwide, and a wealth
> of information on the Tailwind-between the pictures, links and files on t
> he forum site, not to mention the average of 400 to over 800 posts per
> mont
> h, which are archived and searchable.- Yes it still has some advertisemen
> t, but it is fairly unobtrusive.- It allows the owners and-moderators t
> o be changed, and the group can have input into these if they need to.- F
> or example, on another Yahoo group that I frequent, the Owner disappeared,
> and the group was getting a fair amount of spam because the membership was
> wide open to anyone.- I worked with Yahoo, and we got two new moderators
> who now monitor the memberships, and who have put much more content on the
> site.- It is now-much better.
> -
> I am not trying to bash the Tailwind list--I have been a member of it
> since
> inception--and it is, and always has been,-listed on the Tailwind forum
> as an alternate group.- However, like many Matronics groups, it is not us
> ed very much.- I know this is not the preference of those who like the Ma
> tronics group better, but it is the fact.
> -
> Dave Magaw
> N168A
> Sacramento, CA
> -
>
>
> From: "Flamini, Dennis, Fran" <flamini2@comcast.net>
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:11:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> #yiv680254161 .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P
> {padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;}
> #yiv680254161 .ExternalClass BODY.EC_hmmessage
> {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}
>
>
> Pat,
> -
> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and has
> lot
> s of archived info.
> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due to
> a
> bility to-add photos to posts, shortly after most switched to Yahoo
> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
> Yahoo.
> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch to
> Ya
> hoo.
> -
> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
> -
> Dennis
> -
> -
> -
> -
> -
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: patrick reilly
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:29 PM
> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
> Dennis, I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am currently
> re
> building a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. The-
> Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount of
> i
> nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active website.
> I
> have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But, I don't think the fo
> rmat is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford, IL
>
>
> -
>
>
> From: flamini2@comcast.net
> @matronics.com
> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
>
> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines,
> JC...not Injuns;
> -
> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
> -
> And the GPU
> -
> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf
> -
> Dennis from Chicago t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
> ronics.com ww.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matron
> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwin
> d-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com h
> ref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
> Tailwind-List" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Na
> vironics.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://forums.matronics.comww
> w.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.m
> ====================
>
>
> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
> ronics.com
> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tnics.com/" target=_blank rel=nofoll
> ow>http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contributio
> n" target=_blank rel=nofol
>
>
> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
> ronics.com
> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
> =0A=0A=0A
>
> ________________________________ Message 10
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:24:28 PM PST US
> From: Dave Magaw <pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>
> You got me Pat.- It comes out fine on my screen.- I get some weird char
> acters when I view the messages on my tiny Blackberry screen, but when on
> t
> he home or work computer they look are fine.=0A=0ADave
> M=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____
> ____________________________=0AFrom: patrick reilly
> <patreilly43@hotmail.co
> m>=0ATo: Tailwind Matronics <tailwind-list@matronics.com>=0ASent:
> Saturday,
> February 28, 2009 9:45:03 AM=0ASubject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other
> Lycoming info=0A=0ADave, Your's, and a few other's messages don't read dow
> n the page without moving the screen right to left. I would imagine that
> so
> me how or other you are in landscape format. Is that correct, and, if so
> wh
> y? It is difficult to read-a message moving the screen back and forth. I
> have seen this before and it just dawned on me it looks like the landscape
> format.=0A=0APat Reilly=0AMod 3 582 Rebuild=0ARockford, IL=0A=0A=0A=0A-
> =0A________________________________=0ADate: Sat, 28 Feb 2009
> 09:05:55 -0800
> =0AFrom: pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com=0ASubject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and
> ot
> her Lycoming info=0ATo: tailwind-list@matronics.com=0A=0A=0AIf you need
> Yah
> oo help, let me or Dan Doolin (the other Tailwind forum moderator, who is
> v
> ery computer savvy) know.- Basically all you need is a Yahoo ID and passw
> ord, but you will have to use them to access many of the features of the
> Ta
> ilwind forum site.- =0A=0AYes it is true that maintaining e-mail groups d
> oes take time and effort, and hardware costs, not to mention overhead,
> etc,
> and somehow that cost has to be paid.- Google and Yahoo do it through ad
> vertising, Matronics through donations.- =0A=0AGood to see another tailwi
> nd progressing, definitely get you and your Kitfox to Baraboo if possible.
> =0A=0ADave=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: patrick
> r
> eilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>=0ATo: Tailwind Matronics
> <tailwind-list@mat
> ronics.com>=0ASent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:31:56 AM=0ASubject: RE:
> T
> ailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info=0A=0ADave, thanks for the
> info.
> I am used to the Matronix format so I like it. I am a Hotmail subscriber n
> ot Yahoo. I started to sign up for Tailwind forum on Yahoo. I might have
> ev
> en completed signing up but found the format confusing after the
> simplisity
> of the Matronix site. I don't mind contributing to the website founder as
> I would never spend the kind of time it takes to put one of these together
> and feel- I-he deserves it, no matter what the cost, I ain't no freeloa
> der. I could not have rebuilt my Kitfox without the info of-other members
> . I guess I will have to sit down and force myself to become familiar with
> the Yahoo website if I am going to use the internet for Tailwind info. I
> gu
> ess-you-ain't going to bring the mountain to me.=0A=0APat Reilly=0AMod
> 3 582 Rebuild=0ARockford, IL=0A=0A=0A=0A-=0A_____________________________
> ___=0ADate: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:45:34 -0800=0AFrom:
> pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com
> =0ASubject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info=0ATo:
> tailwind
> -list@matronics.com; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com=0A=0A=0ANot quite
> correc
> t Dennis.- Actually the history of the Tailwind Forum (Yahoo) and Tailwin
> d List (Matronics) is basically as follows:=0A=0ABurt Rudolph first had
> the
> Tailwind e-mail list on his website back in the late 1990's.- That is wh
> en I first joined the group.- His list worked for a time, then he had tro
> ubles maintaining it and periodically it would go down.- He got it going
> again for a short time, but at that time it was a lot of work to maintain
> a
> list.- His website was http://www.chlassociates.com/Aviation/tailwind.ht
> m-but it is no longer available and it hadn't been updated in years.=0A
> =0AWhen Jerry Hey took over the Tailwind Times (late 1990s or 2000), he
> als
> o set up the "Tailwind Forum" e-mail group.- I don't remember how long he
> was able to manage it, I think it was about a year, perhaps even two, but
> then he also had problems maintaining it and protecting against spam.- Af
> ter it went down, I suggested to Jerry that perhaps we should start a
> Yahoo
> group, which a number of other aircraft groups had also done.- Jerry ask
> ed me to set it up and so I did in August 2001--I followed Jerry's lead
> (wi
> th his blessing) and named it the "Tailwind Forum".- =0A=0AAbout perhaps
> a year or more-later, Matronics was setting up its various e-mail groups,
> and was successful with the RV types among others.- He expanded to inclu
> de the "Tailwind-List" among others.- Many liked this because the Matroni
> cs Lists didn't have advertisement, but for a long time it could not
> accomm
> odate pictures.- This was later modified and pictures and files were allo
> wed, but the Matronics Tailwind List never became popular compared to the
> T
> ailwind Forum, though it has had its stalwart supporters.- I think this w
> as for a variety of reasons, the monthly admonitions about content on the
> f
> orums, the annual fundraiser/plea for money, and the lack of flexibility
> an
> d content that the Yahoo groups allow (these are my personal opinions
> mindy
> a!).- =0A=0AThe Yahoo Tailwind Forum currently has 885 members worldwide,
> and a wealth of information on the Tailwind-between the pictures, links
> and files on the forum site, not to mention the average of 400 to over 800
> posts per month, which are archived and searchable.- Yes it still has som
> e advertisement, but it is fairly unobtrusive.- It allows the owners and
> -moderators to be changed, and the group can have input into these if the
> y need to.- For example, on another Yahoo group that I frequent, the Owne
> r disappeared, and the group was getting a fair amount of spam because the
> membership was wide open to anyone.- I worked with Yahoo, and we got two
> new moderators who now monitor the memberships, and who have put much more
> content on the site.- It is now-much better.=0A=0AI am not trying to ba
> sh the Tailwind list--I have been a member of it since inception--and it
> is
> , and always has been,-listed on the Tailwind forum as an alternate group
> .- However, like many Matronics groups, it is not used very much.- I kn
> ow this is not the preference of those who like the Matronics group
> better,
> but it is the fact.=0A=0ADave Magaw=0AN168A=0ASacramento, CA=0A=0A=0A=0A
> =0A________________________________=0AFrom: "Flamini, Dennis, Fran"
> <flamin
> i2@comcast.net>=0ATo: tailwind-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Friday, February
> 27, 2009 3:11:07 PM=0ASubject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming
> info=0A=0A=0APat,=0A-=0AThe Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site
> for some time and has lots of archived info.=0Ai think it was one of the F
> resno guys that got us started on Yahoo due to ability to-add photos to p
> osts, shortly after most switched to Yahoo=0AMatt added the same thing to
> M
> atronics but almost everyone stayed on Yahoo.=0Ai try to post to both
> since
> i have some friends that refuse to switch to Yahoo.=0A-=0ATell me more a
> bout yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?=0A-=0ADennis=0A-=0A
> =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: patrick reilly =0ATo:
> Tai
> lwind Matronics =0ASent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:29 PM=0ASubject: RE:
> Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info=0ADennis, I live in Rockford
> a
> nd have a W10 in need of TLC. I am currently rebuilding a Kitfox and plan
> o
> n starting on the Tailwind this summer. The- Matronix website is extremel
> y active. I have learned an immense amount of info from the website. I
> wish
> the Tailwind site was a more active website. I have been told the Yahoo Ta
> ilwind forum is good. But, I don't think the format is as user friendly as
> this Matronix site.=0A=0APat Reilly=0AMod 3 582 Rebuild=0ARockford, IL=0A
> =0A=0A=0A-=0A________________________________=0AFrom: flamini2@comcast.ne
> t=0ATo: thorplist@yahoogroups.com; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com;
> tailwind-
> list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
> =0ADate: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600=0A=0A=0AAll you ever wanted to
> kno
> w about Lycoming engines,=0AJC...not Injuns;=0A-=0Ahttp://www.7ts0.com/ma
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The main difference is the directional control. Ya gotta keep the wing
down into the wind in both configurations.
Don
wskimike wrote:
>
> I have a question! I don't have much tailwheel experience (6 hrs) and
> my last flight in an RV-6 upon landing, the aircraft danced on the
> main wheels back and forth several times in a slight crosswind. Is
> this an inherent problem with the RV aircraft, or will all tailwheel
> aircraft do this if you are fast or don't roll in all the aileron upon
> landing?
> Mike
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tailwind-List Digest Server"
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>> 1. 03:17 AM - Re: Tailwind-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/27/09
>> (wskimike)
>> 2. 05:39 AM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (John Downing)
>> 3. 07:13 AM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>> 4. 07:17 AM - Re: Re: Tailwind-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/27/09
>> (patrick reilly)
>> 5. 07:32 AM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>> 6. 09:07 AM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Dave Magaw)
>> 7. 09:46 AM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>> 8. 10:33 AM - Baraboo (John Downing)
>> 9. 10:42 AM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Mike & \)
>> 10. 05:24 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Dave Magaw)
>>
>>
>>
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>> _____________________________________
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>>
>> Time: 03:17:50 AM PST US
>> From: "wskimike" <wskimike@mchsi.com>
>> Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Tailwind-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/27/09
>>
>>
>> It's good to get some tailwind conversation. Thanks
>> Mike
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>>> formatted
>>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
>>> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
>>> of the Tailwind-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text
>>> editor
>>> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>>>
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>>> Today's Message Index:
>>> ----------------------
>>>
>>> 1. 10:32 AM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>>> 2. 03:13 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Flamini, Dennis,
>>> Fran)
>>> 3. 04:16 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>>> 4. 04:42 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Flamini, Dennis,
>>> Fran)
>>> 5. 05:44 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>>> 6. 05:45 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>>> 7. 07:47 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Dave Magaw)
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________ Message 1
>>> _____________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Time: 10:32:07 AM PST US
>>> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>>> currently
>>> rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this
>>> summer. The
>>> Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense
>>> amount of
>>> i
>>> nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active
>>> website.
>>> I
>>> have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't
>>> think the
>>> format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>>
>>> Pat Reilly
>>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> Rockford=2C IL
>>>
>>>
>>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>>
>>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>>> JC...not Injuns=3B
>>>
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>>
>>> And the GPU
>>>
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis from Chicago
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________ Message 2
>>> _____________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Time: 03:13:36 PM PST US
>>> From: "Flamini, Dennis, Fran" <flamini2@comcast.net>
>>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>> Pat,
>>>
>>> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and has
>>> lots of archived info.
>>> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due
>>> to ability to add photos to posts, shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>>> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>>> Yahoo.
>>> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to
>>> switch to
>>> Yahoo.
>>>
>>> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: patrick reilly
>>> To: Tailwind Matronics
>>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:29 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis, I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>>> currently rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this
>>> summer. The Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an
>>> immense amount of info from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a
>>> more active website. I have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good.
>>> But, I don't think the format is as user friendly as this Matronix
>>> site.
>>>
>>> Pat Reilly
>>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> Rockford, IL
>>>
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> -----
>>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> To: thorplist@yahoogroups.com; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com;
>>> tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600
>>>
>>>
>>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines,
>>> JC...not Injuns;
>>>
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>>
>>> And the GPU
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.p
>>>
>>> df
>>>
>>> Dennis from Chicago
>>>
>>>
>>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> ronics.com
>>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________ Message 3
>>> _____________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Time: 04:16:21 PM PST US
>>> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis=2C I will send photos at a latter date. I saw the plane on
>>> Barnstorm
>>> ers a year ago in Alabama. It was built in Alabama in 1993 I
>>> believe. It
>>> wa
>>> s deregistered=2C dismanteled and sold for scrap on the record.
>>> But=2C the
>>> only dismanteling was the removale of the wings. A fellow bought it as
>>> part
>>> of a package with a couple of engines he wanted and put it on
>>> Barnstormers
>>> . I am rebuilding a Kitfox that will be up and flying in a couple of
>>> months
>>> . A Kitfox cruises at 85mph. I thought that is a great low and slow
>>> plane
>>> a
>>> nd thought an RV would make a great getup and go plane. Saw this W10
>>> for
>>> ab
>>> out 1/4 of what an RV cost=2C liked the design and history of the
>>> Whittman
>>> and could justify getting it. The plane is actually in better shape
>>> than I
>>> had Hoped by the pictures in barn stormers. The fellow that had it
>>> listed
>>> =2C when I asked the condition said what it really needed was a wash
>>> job.
>>> H
>>> e wasn't lying It looked damn good after I washed it. As a matter of
>>> fact
>>> o
>>> ne guy saw it a couple of days after it was delivered=2C came back a
>>> couple
>>> of months later after the wash job and asked me if I had repainted
>>> it. I w
>>> ill start working on it this summer. And hope to have it up summer of
>>> 2010.
>>> The plane was built with an 0-320 and latter converted to an 0-290
>>> by the
>>> original builder. Are you located in Chicago?
>>>
>>> Pat Reilly
>>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> Rockford=2C IL
>>>
>>>
>>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>>
>>> Pat=2C
>>>
>>> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and has
>>> lot
>>> s of archived info.
>>> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo
>>> due to
>>> a
>>> bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>>> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>>> Yahoo.
>>> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to
>>> switch to
>>> Ya
>>> hoo.
>>>
>>> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: patrick reilly
>>> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>> Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>>> currently
>>> rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this
>>> summer. The
>>> Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense
>>> amount of
>>> i
>>> nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active
>>> website.
>>> I
>>> have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't
>>> think the
>>> format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>>
>>> Pat Reilly
>>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> Rockford=2C IL
>>>
>>>
>>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>>
>>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>>> JC...not Injuns=3B
>>>
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>>
>>> And the GPU
>>>
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis from Chicago
>>>
>>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> ronics.com
>>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>>
>>>
>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matron
>>>
>>> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________ Message 4
>>> _____________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Time: 04:42:36 PM PST US
>>> From: "Flamini, Dennis, Fran" <flamini2@comcast.net>
>>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>> Pat,
>>> We are in the South Suburbs of Chicago about 30 miles South of MDW,
>>> Frankfort, IL.
>>> i flew a W9 Tailwind for 12 years, 1000 hrs and raced it a little, it
>>> had an 0-360 with CS prop and did about 200 while racing.
>>> The new W10's are a lot faster, in the 2006 Airventure we were low on
>>> fuel so throttled back and flew high but a W10 from CA with
>>> 0-320 flew low and fast into mostly headwinds and did 216mph!
>>> See photos of Tailwind, N564DF that i sold in 2005 and last raced in
>>> 2006.Also current biplane project.
>>> i am only sport pilot now and hope to be able to lift my leg high
>>> enough
>>> to get in the biplane.
>>> 66 years old and happy to even see 2009.
>>> Dennis from Chicago
>>> PS; i attended the RFD EAA flyins from 1963 on and flew a Cougar,
>>> N6484D
>>> built by Leonard Eaves into the first OSH flyin.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: patrick reilly
>>> To: Tailwind Matronics
>>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 6:13 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis, I will send photos at a latter date. I saw the plane on
>>> Barnstormers a year ago in Alabama. It was built in Alabama in 1993 I
>>> believe. It was deregistered, dismanteled and sold for scrap on the
>>> record. But, the only dismanteling was the removale of the wings. A
>>> fellow bought it as part of a package with a couple of engines he
>>> wanted
>>> and put it on Barnstormers. I am rebuilding a Kitfox that will be up
>>> and
>>> flying in a couple of months. A Kitfox cruises at 85mph. I thought that
>>> is a great low and slow plane and thought an RV would make a great
>>> getup
>>> and go plane. Saw this W10 for about 1/4 of what an RV cost, liked the
>>> design and history of the Whittman and could justify getting it. The
>>> plane is actually in better shape than I had Hoped by the pictures in
>>> barn stormers. The fellow that had it listed, when I asked the
>>> condition
>>> said what it really needed was a wash job. He wasn't lying It looked
>>> damn good after I washed it. As a matter of fact one guy saw it a
>>> couple
>>> of days after it was delivered, came back a couple of months later
>>> after
>>> the wash job and asked me if I had repainted it. I will start
>>> working on
>>> it this summer. And hope to have it up summer of 2010. The plane was
>>> built with an 0-320 and latter converted to an 0-290 by the original
>>> builder. Are you located in Chicago?
>>>
>>> Pat Reilly
>>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> Rockford, IL
>>>
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> -----
>>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:11:07 -0600
>>>
>>>
>>> Pat,
>>>
>>> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and
>>> has lots of archived info.
>>> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due
>>> to ability to add photos to posts, shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>>> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>>> Yahoo.
>>> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch
>>> to Yahoo.
>>>
>>> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: patrick reilly
>>> To: Tailwind Matronics
>>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:29 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis, I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>>> currently rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this
>>> summer. The Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an
>>> immense amount of info from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a
>>> more active website. I have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good.
>>> But, I don't think the format is as user friendly as this Matronix
>>> site.
>>>
>>> Pat Reilly
>>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> Rockford, IL
>>>
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> ---
>>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> To: thorplist@yahoogroups.com; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com;
>>> tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600
>>>
>>>
>>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines,
>>> JC...not Injuns;
>>>
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>>
>>> And the GPU
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.p
>>>
>>> df
>>>
>>> Dennis from Chicago
>>>
>>>
>>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> ronics.com
>>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>>
>>>
>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matr
>>> onics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>>
>>>
>>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> ronics.com
>>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________ Message 5
>>> _____________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Time: 05:44:31 PM PST US
>>> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis=2C WOW! I finally contacted a real Tailwinder on this site. I
>>> had
>>> gi
>>> ven up hope. I didn't even know there was a W9. W8 and W10 was all I
>>> ever
>>> h
>>> eard of. What biplane project have you got going. I have to have a
>>> biplane.
>>> I like the Skybolt or Marquart Charger. I am a little dismayed
>>> though. "66
>>> " ain't old. I am "65" and will get my license this spring. I had an
>>> ultral
>>> ight 20 years ago for 3 years. Sold it=2C toyed with the idea of
>>> getting
>>> my
>>> license=2C but was raising a family and didn't really have the time.
>>> Two y
>>> ears ago we moved to Rockford=2C 1 mile west of runway 7=2C found
>>> EAA Chp
>>> 2
>>> 2 and a hotbed of experimental aircraft aviation at Cottonwood airport
>>> here
>>> in Rockford. Streetrods are fun=2C motorcycles are crazy=2C
>>> airplanes... t
>>> hey are reserved for the insane. Can't wait to meet you and pick your
>>> brain
>>> on the Tailwind.
>>>
>>> Pat Reilly
>>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> Rockford=2C IL
>>>
>>>
>>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>>
>>> Pat=2C
>>> We are in the South Suburbs of Chicago about 30 miles South of MDW=2C
>>> Frank
>>> fort=2C IL.
>>> i flew a W9 Tailwind for 12 years=2C 1000 hrs and raced it a
>>> little=2C it
>>> h
>>> ad an 0-360 with CS prop and did about 200 while racing.
>>> The new W10's are a lot faster=2C in the 2006 Airventure we were low on
>>> fue
>>> l so throttled back and flew high but a W10 from CA with
>>> 0-320 flew low and fast into mostly headwinds and did 216mph!
>>> See photos of Tailwind=2C N564DF that i sold in 2005 and last raced in
>>> 2006
>>> .Also current biplane project.
>>> i am only sport pilot now and hope to be able to lift my leg high
>>> enough
>>> to
>>> get in the biplane.
>>> 66 years old and happy to even see 2009.
>>> Dennis from Chicago
>>> PS=3B i attended the RFD EAA flyins from 1963 on and flew a Cougar=2C
>>> N6484
>>> D built by Leonard Eaves into the first OSH flyin.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: patrick reilly
>>> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 6:13 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>> Dennis=2C I will send photos at a latter date. I saw the plane on
>>> Barnstorm
>>> ers a year ago in Alabama. It was built in Alabama in 1993 I
>>> believe. It
>>> wa
>>> s deregistered=2C dismanteled and sold for scrap on the record.
>>> But=2C the
>>> only dismanteling was the removale of the wings. A fellow bought it as
>>> part
>>> of a package with a couple of engines he wanted and put it on
>>> Barnstormers
>>> . I am rebuilding a Kitfox that will be up and flying in a couple of
>>> months
>>> . A Kitfox cruises at 85mph. I thought that is a great low and slow
>>> plane
>>> a
>>> nd thought an RV would make a great getup and go plane. Saw this W10
>>> for
>>> ab
>>> out 1/4 of what an RV cost=2C liked the design and history of the
>>> Whittman
>>> and could justify getting it. The plane is actually in better shape
>>> than I
>>> had Hoped by the pictures in barn stormers. The fellow that had it
>>> listed
>>> =2C when I asked the condition said what it really needed was a wash
>>> job.
>>> H
>>> e wasn't lying It looked damn good after I washed it. As a matter of
>>> fact
>>> o
>>> ne guy saw it a couple of days after it was delivered=2C came back a
>>> couple
>>> of months later after the wash job and asked me if I had repainted
>>> it. I w
>>> ill start working on it this summer. And hope to have it up summer of
>>> 2010.
>>> The plane was built with an 0-320 and latter converted to an 0-290
>>> by the
>>> original builder. Are you located in Chicago?
>>>
>>> Pat Reilly
>>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> Rockford=2C IL
>>>
>>>
>>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>>
>>> Pat=2C
>>>
>>> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and has
>>> lot
>>> s of archived info.
>>> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo
>>> due to
>>> a
>>> bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>>> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>>> Yahoo.
>>> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to
>>> switch to
>>> Ya
>>> hoo.
>>>
>>> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: patrick reilly
>>> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>> Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>>> currently
>>> rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this
>>> summer. The
>>> Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense
>>> amount of
>>> i
>>> nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active
>>> website.
>>> I
>>> have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't
>>> think the
>>> format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>>
>>> Pat Reilly
>>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> Rockford=2C IL
>>>
>>>
>>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>>
>>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>>> JC...not Injuns=3B
>>>
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>>
>>> And the GPU
>>>
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis from Chicago
>>>
>>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> ronics.com
>>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>>
>>>
>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matron
>>>
>>> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>>
>>>
>>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> ronics.com
>>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>>
>>>
>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matron
>>>
>>> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>>
>>> ________________________________ Message 6
>>> _____________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Time: 05:45:56 PM PST US
>>> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis=2C WOW! I finally contacted a real Tailwinder on this site. I
>>> had
>>> gi
>>> ven up hope. I didn't even know there was a W9. W8 and W10 was all I
>>> ever
>>> h
>>> eard of. What biplane project have you got going. I have to have a
>>> biplane.
>>> I like the Skybolt or Marquart Charger. I am a little dismayed
>>> though. "66
>>> " ain't old. I am "65" and will get my license this spring. I had an
>>> ultral
>>> ight 20 years ago for 3 years. Sold it=2C toyed with the idea of
>>> getting
>>> my
>>> license=2C but was raising a family and didn't really have the time.
>>> Two y
>>> ears ago we moved to Rockford=2C 1 mile west of runway 7=2C found
>>> EAA Chp
>>> 2
>>> 2 and a hotbed of experimental aircraft aviation at Cottonwood airport
>>> here
>>> in Rockford. Streetrods are fun=2C motorcycles are crazy=2C
>>> airplanes... t
>>> hey are reserved for the insane. Can't wait to meet you and pick your
>>> brain
>>> on the Tailwind.
>>>
>>> Pat Reilly
>>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> Rockford=2C IL
>>>
>>>
>>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>>
>>> Pat=2C
>>> We are in the South Suburbs of Chicago about 30 miles South of MDW=2C
>>> Frank
>>> fort=2C IL.
>>> i flew a W9 Tailwind for 12 years=2C 1000 hrs and raced it a
>>> little=2C it
>>> h
>>> ad an 0-360 with CS prop and did about 200 while racing.
>>> The new W10's are a lot faster=2C in the 2006 Airventure we were low on
>>> fue
>>> l so throttled back and flew high but a W10 from CA with
>>> 0-320 flew low and fast into mostly headwinds and did 216mph!
>>> See photos of Tailwind=2C N564DF that i sold in 2005 and last raced in
>>> 2006
>>> .Also current biplane project.
>>> i am only sport pilot now and hope to be able to lift my leg high
>>> enough
>>> to
>>> get in the biplane.
>>> 66 years old and happy to even see 2009.
>>> Dennis from Chicago
>>> PS=3B i attended the RFD EAA flyins from 1963 on and flew a Cougar=2C
>>> N6484
>>> D built by Leonard Eaves into the first OSH flyin.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: patrick reilly
>>> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 6:13 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>> Dennis=2C I will send photos at a latter date. I saw the plane on
>>> Barnstorm
>>> ers a year ago in Alabama. It was built in Alabama in 1993 I
>>> believe. It
>>> wa
>>> s deregistered=2C dismanteled and sold for scrap on the record.
>>> But=2C the
>>> only dismanteling was the removale of the wings. A fellow bought it as
>>> part
>>> of a package with a couple of engines he wanted and put it on
>>> Barnstormers
>>> . I am rebuilding a Kitfox that will be up and flying in a couple of
>>> months
>>> . A Kitfox cruises at 85mph. I thought that is a great low and slow
>>> plane
>>> a
>>> nd thought an RV would make a great getup and go plane. Saw this W10
>>> for
>>> ab
>>> out 1/4 of what an RV cost=2C liked the design and history of the
>>> Whittman
>>> and could justify getting it. The plane is actually in better shape
>>> than I
>>> had Hoped by the pictures in barn stormers. The fellow that had it
>>> listed
>>> =2C when I asked the condition said what it really needed was a wash
>>> job.
>>> H
>>> e wasn't lying It looked damn good after I washed it. As a matter of
>>> fact
>>> o
>>> ne guy saw it a couple of days after it was delivered=2C came back a
>>> couple
>>> of months later after the wash job and asked me if I had repainted
>>> it. I w
>>> ill start working on it this summer. And hope to have it up summer of
>>> 2010.
>>> The plane was built with an 0-320 and latter converted to an 0-290
>>> by the
>>> original builder. Are you located in Chicago?
>>>
>>> Pat Reilly
>>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> Rockford=2C IL
>>>
>>>
>>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>>
>>> Pat=2C
>>>
>>> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and has
>>> lot
>>> s of archived info.
>>> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo
>>> due to
>>> a
>>> bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>>> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>>> Yahoo.
>>> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to
>>> switch to
>>> Ya
>>> hoo.
>>>
>>> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: patrick reilly
>>> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>> Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>>> currently
>>> rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this
>>> summer. The
>>> Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense
>>> amount of
>>> i
>>> nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active
>>> website.
>>> I
>>> have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't
>>> think the
>>> format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>>
>>> Pat Reilly
>>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> Rockford=2C IL
>>>
>>>
>>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>>
>>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>>> JC...not Injuns=3B
>>>
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>>
>>> And the GPU
>>>
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis from Chicago
>>>
>>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> ronics.com
>>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>>
>>>
>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matron
>>>
>>> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>>
>>>
>>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> ronics.com
>>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>>
>>>
>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matron
>>>
>>> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>>
>>> ________________________________ Message 7
>>> _____________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> Time: 07:47:53 PM PST US
>>> From: Dave Magaw <pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>>
>>> Not quite correct Dennis.- Actually the history of the Tailwind
>>> Forum (Ya
>>> hoo) and Tailwind List (Matronics) is basically as follows:=0A=0ABurt
>>> Rudol
>>> ph first had the Tailwind e-mail list on his website back in the late
>>> 1990'
>>> s.- That is when I first joined the group.- His list worked for a time,
>>> then he had troubles maintaining it and periodically it would go down.-
>>> He got it going again for a short time, but at that time it was a
>>> lot of
>>> wo
>>> rk to maintain a list.- His website was
>>> http://www.chlassociates.com/Avia
>>> tion/tailwind.htm-but it is no longer available and it hadn't been
>>> update
>>> d in years.=0A=0AWhen Jerry Hey took over the Tailwind Times (late
>>> 1990s
>>> or
>>> 2000), he also set up the "Tailwind Forum" e-mail group.- I don't
>>> rememb
>>> er how long he was able to manage it, I think it was about a year,
>>> perhaps
>>> even two, but then he also had problems maintaining it and protecting
>>> again
>>> st spam.- After it went down, I suggested to Jerry that perhaps we
>>> should
>>> start a Yahoo group, which a number of other aircraft groups had
>>> also done
>>> .- Jerry asked me to set it up and so I did in August 2001--I
>>> followed Je
>>> rry's lead (with his blessing) and named it the "Tailwind Forum".-
>>> =0A=0A
>>> About perhaps a year or more-later, Matronics was setting up its
>>> various
>>> e-mail groups, and was successful with the RV types among others.-
>>> He exp
>>> anded to include the "Tailwind-List" among others.- Many liked this
>>> becau
>>> se the Matronics Lists didn't have advertisement, but for a long
>>> time it
>>> co
>>> uld not accommodate pictures.- This was later modified and pictures
>>> and f
>>> iles were allowed, but the Matronics Tailwind List never became popular
>>> com
>>> pared to the Tailwind Forum, though it has had its stalwart
>>> supporters.-
>>> I think this was for a variety of reasons, the monthly admonitions
>>> about
>>> co
>>> ntent on the forums, the annual fundraiser/plea for money, and the
>>> lack of
>>> flexibility and content that the Yahoo groups allow (these are my
>>> personal
>>> opinions mindya!).- =0A=0AThe Yahoo Tailwind Forum currently has 885
>>> memb
>>> ers worldwide, and a wealth of information on the Tailwind-between
>>> the pi
>>> ctures, links and files on the forum site, not to mention the
>>> average of
>>> 40
>>> 0 to over 800 posts per month, which are archived and searchable.-
>>> Yes it
>>> still has some advertisement, but it is fairly unobtrusive.- It
>>> allows t
>>> he owners and-moderators to be changed, and the group can have input
>>> into
>>> these if they need to.- For example, on another Yahoo group that I
>>> frequ
>>> ent, the Owner disappeared, and the group was getting a fair amount of
>>> spam
>>> because the membership was wide open to anyone.- I worked with
>>> Yahoo, an
>>> d we got two new moderators who now monitor the memberships, and who
>>> have
>>> p
>>> ut much more content on the site.- It is now-much better.=0A=0AI am not
>>> trying to bash the Tailwind list--I have been a member of it since
>>> incepti
>>> on--and it is, and always has been,-listed on the Tailwind forum as
>>> an al
>>> ternate group.- However, like many Matronics groups, it is not used
>>> very
>>> much.- I know this is not the preference of those who like the
>>> Matronics
>>> group better, but it is the fact.=0A=0ADave
>>> Magaw=0AN168A=0ASacramento, CA
>>> =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "Flamini,
>>> Dennis,
>>> F
>>> ran" <flamini2@comcast.net>=0ATo: tailwind-list@matronics.com=0ASent:
>>> Frida
>>> y, February 27, 2009 3:11:07 PM=0ASubject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and
>>> oth
>>> er Lycoming info=0A=0A=0APat,=0A-=0AThe Tailwind forum at matronics
>>> was t
>>> he only site for some time and has lots of archived info.=0Ai think
>>> it was
>>> one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due to ability
>>> to-add
>>> photos to posts, shortly after most switched to Yahoo=0AMatt added
>>> the sam
>>> e thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on Yahoo.=0Ai try to
>>> post
>>> t
>>> o both since i have some friends that refuse to switch to
>>> Yahoo.=0A-=0ATe
>>> ll me more about yourself and the Kitfox and
>>> Tailwind...photos?=0A-=0ADen
>>> nis=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: patrick
>>> reill
>>> y =0ATo: Tailwind Matronics =0ASent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:29
>>> PM=0AS
>>> ubject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info=0ADennis, I
>>> live
>>> i
>>> n Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am currently rebuilding a
>>> Kitfo
>>> x and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. The- Matronix
>>> website
>>> is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount of info from
>>> the web
>>> site. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active website. I have
>>> been told
>>> the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But, I don't think the format is
>>> as user
>>> friendly as this Matronix site.=0A=0APat Reilly=0AMod 3 582
>>> Rebuild=0ARockf
>>> ord, IL=0A=0A=0A=0A-=0A________________________________=0AFrom:
>>> flamini2@
>>> comcast.net=0ATo: thorplist@yahoogroups.com;
>>> TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com;
>>> tailwind-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and
>>> other Lyco
>>> ming info=0ADate: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600=0A=0A=0AAll you ever
>>> want
>>> ed to know about Lycoming engines,=0AJC...not
>>> Injuns;=0A-=0Ahttp://www.7t
>>> s0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/=0A-=0AAnd the GPU=0A-=0Ahttp://www.7ts0.co
>>> m/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf=0A-=0ADennis
>>> fr
>>> om Chicago=0A t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> ronic
>>> s.com ww.matronics.com/contribution =0A
>>> href="http://www.matronics
>>> .com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-L
>>>
>>> ist href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>> href
>>> ="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>> =0A
>>> =========== =0A=0A=0A
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:39:15 AM PST US
>> From: "John Downing" <downing.j@sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>> Pat, glad to see that you are getting motivated on the Tailwind, see you
>> at Baraboo. Farmer John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> -----
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:11:07 -0600
>>
>>
>> Pat,
>>
>> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and
>> has lots of archived info.
>> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due
>> to ability to add photos to posts, shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>> Yahoo.
>> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch
>> to Yahoo.
>>
>> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: patrick reilly
>> To: Tailwind Matronics
>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Dennis, I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>> currently rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this
>> summer. The Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an
>> immense amount of info from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a
>> more active website. I have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good.
>> But, I don't think the format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford, IL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> ---
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> To: thorplist@yahoogroups.com; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com;
>> tailwind-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600
>>
>>
>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines,
>> JC...not Injuns;
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>
>> And the GPU
>>
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.p
>>
>> df
>>
>> Dennis from Chicago
>>
>>
>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronics.com
>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matr
>> onics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>
>>
>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronics.com
>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 3
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 07:13:13 AM PST US
>> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Farmer John=2C I was in Baraboo last year. I drove in from a trip
>> back from
>> Door County. That was the 1st time That I met Jim Clement. I'll have
>> to ge
>> t there this year. Hope I have =2C Hell hope never gets the job
>> done=2C I w
>> ill have my Kitfox up and fly it to Baraboo. The Tailwind will be in
>> proces
>> s. One thing I like about the Kitfox site is the posters Post there
>> locatio
>> n=2C model and engine. Farmer john from where with what model and
>> engine?
>>
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> W10 0-290 Rebuild
>>
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>> From: downing.j@sbcglobal.net
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Pat=2C glad to see that you are getting motivated on the Tailwind=2C
>> see yo
>> u at Baraboo. Farmer John
>>
>>
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Pat=2C
>>
>> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and
>> has lot
>> s of archived info.
>> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo
>> due to a
>> bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>> Yahoo.
>> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch
>> to Ya
>> hoo.
>>
>> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: patrick reilly
>> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>> Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>> currently
>> rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer.
>> The
>> Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense
>> amount of i
>> nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active
>> website. I
>> have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think
>> the
>> format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>> JC...not Injuns=3B
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>
>> And the GPU
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf
>>
>>
>> Dennis from Chicago
>>
>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronics.com
>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matron
>>
>> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>
>>
>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronics.com
>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matron
>>
>> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 4
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 07:17:09 AM PST US
>> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: Re: Tailwind-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/27/09
>>
>>
>> Mike=2C Where are you located? What model and engine have you got=2C
>> flying
>> or building?
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> W10 0-290 Rebuild
>>
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>>> From: wskimike@mchsi.com
>>> To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Tailwind-List: Re: Tailwind-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/27/09
>>> Date: Sat=2C 28 Feb 2009 05:17:05 -0600
>>>
>>>
>>> It's good to get some tailwind conversation. Thanks
>>> Mike
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tailwind-List Digest Server"
>>> <tailwind-list@matronics.com>
>>> To: "Tailwind-List Digest List" <tailwind-list-digest@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday=2C February 28=2C 2009 1:59 AM
>>> Subject: Tailwind-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 02/27/09
>>>
>>>
>>> > *
>>> >
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>>
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>>
>>> >
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>> e
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>>> formatte
>> d
>>> > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked
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>> r
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>> l&Chapter 09-02-27&Archive=Tailwind
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>>> > ---
>>> > Total Messages Posted Fri 02/27/09: 7
>>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Today's Message Index:
>>> > ----------------------
>>> >
>>> > 1. 10:32 AM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>>> > 2. 03:13 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Flamini=2C Dennis=2C
>>> > Fran)
>>> > 3. 04:16 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>>> > 4. 04:42 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Flamini=2C Dennis=2C
>>> > Fran)
>>> > 5. 05:44 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>>> > 6. 05:45 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (patrick reilly)
>>> > 7. 07:47 PM - Re: 0-290 and other Lycoming info (Dave Magaw)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________ Message 1
>>> > _____________________________________
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Time: 10:32:07 AM PST US
>>> > From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am curr
>> ently
>>> > rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this
>>> summer. T
>> he
>>> > Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense
>>> amount
>> of
>>> > i
>>> > nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active
>>> websit
>> e.
>>> > I
>>> > have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think
>> the
>>> > format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>> >
>>> > Pat Reilly
>>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> > Rockford=2C IL
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> > list@matronics.com
>>> > Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>>> > JC...not Injuns=3B
>>> >
>>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>> >
>>> > And the GPU
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D
>> .pdf
>>> >
>>> > Dennis from Chicago
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________ Message 2
>>> > _____________________________________
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Time: 03:13:36 PM PST US
>>> > From: "Flamini=2C Dennis=2C Fran" <flamini2@comcast.net>
>>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> > Pat=2C
>>> >
>>> > The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time
>>> and has
>>> > lots of archived info.
>>> > i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo
>>> due
>>> > to ability to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched
>>> to Yah
>> oo
>>> > Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>>> > Yahoo.
>>> > i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to
>>> switch t
>> o
>>> > Yahoo.
>>> >
>>> > Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>> >
>>> > Dennis
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: patrick reilly
>>> > To: Tailwind Matronics
>>> > Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>>> > currently rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind
>>> this
>>> > summer. The Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an
>>> > immense amount of info from the website. I wish the Tailwind site
>>> was a
>>> > more active website. I have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is
>>> good.
>>> > But=2C I don't think the format is as user friendly as this
>>> Matronix si
>> te.
>>> >
>>> > Pat Reilly
>>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> > Rockford=2C IL
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>>> > -----
>>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> > To: thorplist@yahoogroups.com=3B TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com=3B
>>> > tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>> > Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> > Date: Fri=2C 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>>> > JC...not Injuns=3B
>>> >
>>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>> >
>>> > And the GPU
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D
>> .p
>>> > df
>>> >
>>> > Dennis from Chicago
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> > ronics.com
>>> > ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________ Message 3
>>> > _____________________________________
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Time: 04:16:21 PM PST US
>>> > From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dennis=2C I will send photos at a latter date. I saw the plane on
>>> > Barnstorm
>>> > ers a year ago in Alabama. It was built in Alabama in 1993 I
>>> believe. I
>> t
>>> > wa
>>> > s deregistered=2C dismanteled and sold for scrap on the record. But
>> =2C the
>>> > only dismanteling was the removale of the wings. A fellow bought
>>> it as
>>
>>> > part
>>> > of a package with a couple of engines he wanted and put it on
>>> Barnstorm
>> ers
>>> > . I am rebuilding a Kitfox that will be up and flying in a couple of
>>> > months
>>> > . A Kitfox cruises at 85mph. I thought that is a great low and
>>> slow pla
>> ne
>>> > a
>>> > nd thought an RV would make a great getup and go plane. Saw this
>>> W10 fo
>> r
>>> > ab
>>> > out 1/4 of what an RV cost=2C liked the design and history of the Whi
>> ttman
>>> > and could justify getting it. The plane is actually in better
>>> shape tha
>> n I
>>> > had Hoped by the pictures in barn stormers. The fellow that had it
>>> list
>> ed
>>> > =2C when I asked the condition said what it really needed was a wash
>> job.
>>> > H
>>> > e wasn't lying It looked damn good after I washed it. As a matter
>>> of fa
>> ct
>>> > o
>>> > ne guy saw it a couple of days after it was delivered=2C came back a
>>
>>> > couple
>>> > of months later after the wash job and asked me if I had repainted
>>> it.
>> I w
>>> > ill start working on it this summer. And hope to have it up summer of
>>> > 2010.
>>> > The plane was built with an 0-320 and latter converted to an 0-290
>>> by t
>> he
>>> > original builder. Are you located in Chicago?
>>> >
>>> > Pat Reilly
>>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> > Rockford=2C IL
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Pat=2C
>>> >
>>> > The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time
>>> and has
>>
>>> > lot
>>> > s of archived info.
>>> > i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo
>>> due
>> to
>>> > a
>>> > bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>>> > Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>>> > Yahoo.
>>> > i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to
>>> switch t
>> o
>>> > Ya
>>> > hoo.
>>> >
>>> > Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>> >
>>> > Dennis
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >
>>> > From: patrick reilly
>>> > Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> > Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am curr
>> ently
>>> > rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this
>>> summer. T
>> he
>>> > Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense
>>> amount
>> of
>>> > i
>>> > nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active
>>> websit
>> e.
>>> > I
>>> > have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think
>> the
>>> > format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>> >
>>> > Pat Reilly
>>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> > Rockford=2C IL
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> > list@matronics.com
>>> > Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>>> > JC...not Injuns=3B
>>> >
>>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>> >
>>> > And the GPU
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D
>> .pdf
>>> >
>>> > Dennis from Chicago
>>> >
>>> > t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> > ronics.com
>>> > ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.ma
>> tron
>>> > ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com
>> /c
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________ Message 4
>>> > _____________________________________
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Time: 04:42:36 PM PST US
>>> > From: "Flamini=2C Dennis=2C Fran" <flamini2@comcast.net>
>>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> > Pat=2C
>>> > We are in the South Suburbs of Chicago about 30 miles South of MDW=2C
>>> > Frankfort=2C IL.
>>> > i flew a W9 Tailwind for 12 years=2C 1000 hrs and raced it a
>>> little=2C
>> it
>>> > had an 0-360 with CS prop and did about 200 while racing.
>>> > The new W10's are a lot faster=2C in the 2006 Airventure we were
>>> low on
>>> > fuel so throttled back and flew high but a W10 from CA with
>>> > 0-320 flew low and fast into mostly headwinds and did 216mph!
>>> > See photos of Tailwind=2C N564DF that i sold in 2005 and last
>>> raced in
>>> > 2006.Also current biplane project.
>>> > i am only sport pilot now and hope to be able to lift my leg high
>>> enoug
>> h
>>> > to get in the biplane.
>>> > 66 years old and happy to even see 2009.
>>> > Dennis from Chicago
>>> > PS=3B i attended the RFD EAA flyins from 1963 on and flew a
>>> Cougar=2C N
>> 6484D
>>> > built by Leonard Eaves into the first OSH flyin.
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: patrick reilly
>>> > To: Tailwind Matronics
>>> > Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 6:13 PM
>>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dennis=2C I will send photos at a latter date. I saw the plane on
>>> > Barnstormers a year ago in Alabama. It was built in Alabama in 1993 I
>>> > believe. It was deregistered=2C dismanteled and sold for scrap on the
>>> > record. But=2C the only dismanteling was the removale of the wings. A
>>> > fellow bought it as part of a package with a couple of engines he
>>> wante
>> d
>>> > and put it on Barnstormers. I am rebuilding a Kitfox that will be
>>> up an
>> d
>>> > flying in a couple of months. A Kitfox cruises at 85mph. I thought
>>> that
>>> > is a great low and slow plane and thought an RV would make a great
>>> getu
>> p
>>> > and go plane. Saw this W10 for about 1/4 of what an RV cost=2C
>>> liked th
>> e
>>> > design and history of the Whittman and could justify getting it. The
>>> > plane is actually in better shape than I had Hoped by the pictures in
>>> > barn stormers. The fellow that had it listed=2C when I asked the
>>> condit
>> ion
>>> > said what it really needed was a wash job. He wasn't lying It looked
>>> > damn good after I washed it. As a matter of fact one guy saw it a
>>> coupl
>> e
>>> > of days after it was delivered=2C came back a couple of months
>>> later af
>> ter
>>> > the wash job and asked me if I had repainted it. I will start
>>> working o
>> n
>>> > it this summer. And hope to have it up summer of 2010. The plane was
>>> > built with an 0-320 and latter converted to an 0-290 by the original
>>> > builder. Are you located in Chicago?
>>> >
>>> > Pat Reilly
>>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> > Rockford=2C IL
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>>> > -----
>>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> > To: tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> > Date: Fri=2C 27 Feb 2009 17:11:07 -0600
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Pat=2C
>>> >
>>> > The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and
>>> > has lots of archived info.
>>> > i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo
>>> due
>>> > to ability to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched
>>> to Yah
>> oo
>>> > Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>>> > Yahoo.
>>> > i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch
>>> > to Yahoo.
>>> >
>>> > Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>> >
>>> > Dennis
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: patrick reilly
>>> > To: Tailwind Matronics
>>> > Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>>> > currently rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind
>>> this
>>> > summer. The Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an
>>> > immense amount of info from the website. I wish the Tailwind site
>>> was a
>>> > more active website. I have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is
>>> good.
>>> > But=2C I don't think the format is as user friendly as this
>>> Matronix si
>> te.
>>> >
>>> > Pat Reilly
>>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> > Rockford=2C IL
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>>> > ---
>>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> > To: thorplist@yahoogroups.com=3B TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com=3B
>>> > tailwind-list@matronics.com
>>> > Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> > Date: Fri=2C 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>>> > JC...not Injuns=3B
>>> >
>>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>> >
>>> > And the GPU
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D
>> .p
>>> > df
>>> >
>>> > Dennis from Chicago
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> > ronics.com
>>> > ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.ma
>> tr
>>> > onics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com
>> /c
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> > ronics.com
>>> > ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________ Message 5
>>> > _____________________________________
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Time: 05:44:31 PM PST US
>>> > From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dennis=2C WOW! I finally contacted a real Tailwinder on this site. I
>> had
>>> > gi
>>> > ven up hope. I didn't even know there was a W9. W8 and W10 was all
>>> I ev
>> er
>>> > h
>>> > eard of. What biplane project have you got going. I have to have a
>>> > biplane.
>>> > I like the Skybolt or Marquart Charger. I am a little dismayed
>>> though.
>> "66
>>> > " ain't old. I am "65" and will get my license this spring. I had an
>>> > ultral
>>> > ight 20 years ago for 3 years. Sold it=2C toyed with the idea of gett
>> ing
>>> > my
>>> > license=2C but was raising a family and didn't really have the time.
>> Two y
>>> > ears ago we moved to Rockford=2C 1 mile west of runway 7=2C found E
>> AA Chp
>>> > 2
>>> > 2 and a hotbed of experimental aircraft aviation at Cottonwood
>>> airport
>>
>>> > here
>>> > in Rockford. Streetrods are fun=2C motorcycles are crazy=2C airplan
>> es... t
>>> > hey are reserved for the insane. Can't wait to meet you and pick your
>>> > brain
>>> > on the Tailwind.
>>> >
>>> > Pat Reilly
>>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> > Rockford=2C IL
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Pat=2C
>>> > We are in the South Suburbs of Chicago about 30 miles South of MDW=2C
>>
>>> > Frank
>>> > fort=2C IL.
>>> > i flew a W9 Tailwind for 12 years=2C 1000 hrs and raced it a little
>> =2C it
>>> > h
>>> > ad an 0-360 with CS prop and did about 200 while racing.
>>> > The new W10's are a lot faster=2C in the 2006 Airventure we were low
>> on
>>> > fue
>>> > l so throttled back and flew high but a W10 from CA with
>>> > 0-320 flew low and fast into mostly headwinds and did 216mph!
>>> > See photos of Tailwind=2C N564DF that i sold in 2005 and last raced i
>> n
>>> > 2006
>>> > .Also current biplane project.
>>> > i am only sport pilot now and hope to be able to lift my leg high
>>> enoug
>> h
>>> > to
>>> > get in the biplane.
>>> > 66 years old and happy to even see 2009.
>>> > Dennis from Chicago
>>> > PS=3B i attended the RFD EAA flyins from 1963 on and flew a Cougar
>> 2C
>>> > N6484
>>> > D built by Leonard Eaves into the first OSH flyin.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: patrick reilly
>>> > Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 6:13 PM
>>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> > Dennis=2C I will send photos at a latter date. I saw the plane on
>>> > Barnstorm
>>> > ers a year ago in Alabama. It was built in Alabama in 1993 I
>>> believe. I
>> t
>>> > wa
>>> > s deregistered=2C dismanteled and sold for scrap on the record. But
>> =2C the
>>> > only dismanteling was the removale of the wings. A fellow bought
>>> it as
>>
>>> > part
>>> > of a package with a couple of engines he wanted and put it on
>>> Barnstorm
>> ers
>>> > . I am rebuilding a Kitfox that will be up and flying in a couple of
>>> > months
>>> > . A Kitfox cruises at 85mph. I thought that is a great low and
>>> slow pla
>> ne
>>> > a
>>> > nd thought an RV would make a great getup and go plane. Saw this
>>> W10 fo
>> r
>>> > ab
>>> > out 1/4 of what an RV cost=2C liked the design and history of the Whi
>> ttman
>>> > and could justify getting it. The plane is actually in better
>>> shape tha
>> n I
>>> > had Hoped by the pictures in barn stormers. The fellow that had it
>>> list
>> ed
>>> > =2C when I asked the condition said what it really needed was a wash
>> job.
>>> > H
>>> > e wasn't lying It looked damn good after I washed it. As a matter
>>> of fa
>> ct
>>> > o
>>> > ne guy saw it a couple of days after it was delivered=2C came back a
>>
>>> > couple
>>> > of months later after the wash job and asked me if I had repainted
>>> it.
>> I w
>>> > ill start working on it this summer. And hope to have it up summer of
>>> > 2010.
>>> > The plane was built with an 0-320 and latter converted to an 0-290
>>> by t
>> he
>>> > original builder. Are you located in Chicago?
>>> >
>>> > Pat Reilly
>>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> > Rockford=2C IL
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Pat=2C
>>> >
>>> > The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time
>>> and has
>>
>>> > lot
>>> > s of archived info.
>>> > i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo
>>> due
>> to
>>> > a
>>> > bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>>> > Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>>> > Yahoo.
>>> > i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to
>>> switch t
>> o
>>> > Ya
>>> > hoo.
>>> >
>>> > Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>> >
>>> > Dennis
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >
>>> > From: patrick reilly
>>> > Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> > Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am curr
>> ently
>>> > rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this
>>> summer. T
>> he
>>> > Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense
>>> amount
>> of
>>> > i
>>> > nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active
>>> websit
>> e.
>>> > I
>>> > have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think
>> the
>>> > format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>> >
>>> > Pat Reilly
>>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> > Rockford=2C IL
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> > list@matronics.com
>>> > Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>>> > JC...not Injuns=3B
>>> >
>>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>> >
>>> > And the GPU
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D
>> .pdf
>>> >
>>> > Dennis from Chicago
>>> >
>>> > t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> > ronics.com
>>> > ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.ma
>> tron
>>> > ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com
>> /c
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> > ronics.com
>>> > ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.ma
>> tron
>>> > ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com
>> /c
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________ Message 6
>>> > _____________________________________
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Time: 05:45:56 PM PST US
>>> > From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dennis=2C WOW! I finally contacted a real Tailwinder on this site. I
>> had
>>> > gi
>>> > ven up hope. I didn't even know there was a W9. W8 and W10 was all
>>> I ev
>> er
>>> > h
>>> > eard of. What biplane project have you got going. I have to have a
>>> > biplane.
>>> > I like the Skybolt or Marquart Charger. I am a little dismayed
>>> though.
>> "66
>>> > " ain't old. I am "65" and will get my license this spring. I had an
>>> > ultral
>>> > ight 20 years ago for 3 years. Sold it=2C toyed with the idea of gett
>> ing
>>> > my
>>> > license=2C but was raising a family and didn't really have the time.
>> Two y
>>> > ears ago we moved to Rockford=2C 1 mile west of runway 7=2C found E
>> AA Chp
>>> > 2
>>> > 2 and a hotbed of experimental aircraft aviation at Cottonwood
>>> airport
>>
>>> > here
>>> > in Rockford. Streetrods are fun=2C motorcycles are crazy=2C airplan
>> es... t
>>> > hey are reserved for the insane. Can't wait to meet you and pick your
>>> > brain
>>> > on the Tailwind.
>>> >
>>> > Pat Reilly
>>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> > Rockford=2C IL
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Pat=2C
>>> > We are in the South Suburbs of Chicago about 30 miles South of MDW=2C
>>
>>> > Frank
>>> > fort=2C IL.
>>> > i flew a W9 Tailwind for 12 years=2C 1000 hrs and raced it a little
>> =2C it
>>> > h
>>> > ad an 0-360 with CS prop and did about 200 while racing.
>>> > The new W10's are a lot faster=2C in the 2006 Airventure we were low
>> on
>>> > fue
>>> > l so throttled back and flew high but a W10 from CA with
>>> > 0-320 flew low and fast into mostly headwinds and did 216mph!
>>> > See photos of Tailwind=2C N564DF that i sold in 2005 and last raced i
>> n
>>> > 2006
>>> > .Also current biplane project.
>>> > i am only sport pilot now and hope to be able to lift my leg high
>>> enoug
>> h
>>> > to
>>> > get in the biplane.
>>> > 66 years old and happy to even see 2009.
>>> > Dennis from Chicago
>>> > PS=3B i attended the RFD EAA flyins from 1963 on and flew a Cougar
>> 2C
>>> > N6484
>>> > D built by Leonard Eaves into the first OSH flyin.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: patrick reilly
>>> > Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 6:13 PM
>>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> > Dennis=2C I will send photos at a latter date. I saw the plane on
>>> > Barnstorm
>>> > ers a year ago in Alabama. It was built in Alabama in 1993 I
>>> believe. I
>> t
>>> > wa
>>> > s deregistered=2C dismanteled and sold for scrap on the record. But
>> =2C the
>>> > only dismanteling was the removale of the wings. A fellow bought
>>> it as
>>
>>> > part
>>> > of a package with a couple of engines he wanted and put it on
>>> Barnstorm
>> ers
>>> > . I am rebuilding a Kitfox that will be up and flying in a couple of
>>> > months
>>> > . A Kitfox cruises at 85mph. I thought that is a great low and
>>> slow pla
>> ne
>>> > a
>>> > nd thought an RV would make a great getup and go plane. Saw this
>>> W10 fo
>> r
>>> > ab
>>> > out 1/4 of what an RV cost=2C liked the design and history of the Whi
>> ttman
>>> > and could justify getting it. The plane is actually in better
>>> shape tha
>> n I
>>> > had Hoped by the pictures in barn stormers. The fellow that had it
>>> list
>> ed
>>> > =2C when I asked the condition said what it really needed was a wash
>> job.
>>> > H
>>> > e wasn't lying It looked damn good after I washed it. As a matter
>>> of fa
>> ct
>>> > o
>>> > ne guy saw it a couple of days after it was delivered=2C came back a
>>
>>> > couple
>>> > of months later after the wash job and asked me if I had repainted
>>> it.
>> I w
>>> > ill start working on it this summer. And hope to have it up summer of
>>> > 2010.
>>> > The plane was built with an 0-320 and latter converted to an 0-290
>>> by t
>> he
>>> > original builder. Are you located in Chicago?
>>> >
>>> > Pat Reilly
>>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> > Rockford=2C IL
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Pat=2C
>>> >
>>> > The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time
>>> and has
>>
>>> > lot
>>> > s of archived info.
>>> > i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo
>>> due
>> to
>>> > a
>>> > bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>>> > Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>>> > Yahoo.
>>> > i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to
>>> switch t
>> o
>>> > Ya
>>> > hoo.
>>> >
>>> > Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>> >
>>> > Dennis
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >
>>> > From: patrick reilly
>>> > Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>>> > Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> > Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am curr
>> ently
>>> > rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this
>>> summer. T
>> he
>>> > Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense
>>> amount
>> of
>>> > i
>>> > nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active
>>> websit
>> e.
>>> > I
>>> > have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think
>> the
>>> > format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>> >
>>> > Pat Reilly
>>> > Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>>> > Rockford=2C IL
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: flamini2@comcast.net
>>> > list@matronics.com
>>> > Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>>> > JC...not Injuns=3B
>>> >
>>> > http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>> >
>>> > And the GPU
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D
>> .pdf
>>> >
>>> > Dennis from Chicago
>>> >
>>> > t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> > ronics.com
>>> > ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.ma
>> tron
>>> > ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com
>> /c
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> > ronics.com
>>> > ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.ma
>> tron
>>> > ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com
>> /c
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________ Message 7
>>> > _____________________________________
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Time: 07:47:53 PM PST US
>>> > From: Dave Magaw <pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>> >
>>> > Not quite correct Dennis.- Actually the history of the Tailwind
>>> Forum (
>> Ya
>>> > hoo) and Tailwind List (Matronics) is basically as follows:=0A=0ABu
>> rt
>>> > Rudol
>>> > ph first had the Tailwind e-mail list on his website back in the late
>>> > 1990'
>>> > s.- That is when I first joined the group.- His list worked for a
>>> time
>> =2C
>>> > then he had troubles maintaining it and periodically it would go
>>> down.-
>>> > He got it going again for a short time=2C but at that time it was
>>> a lot
>> of
>>> > wo
>>> > rk to maintain a list.- His website was
>>> http://www.chlassociates.com/Av
>> ia
>>> > tion/tailwind.htm-but it is no longer available and it hadn't been
>>> upda
>> te
>>> > d in years.=0A=0AWhen Jerry Hey took over the Tailwind Times (late
>> 1990s
>>> > or
>>> > 2000)=2C he also set up the "Tailwind Forum" e-mail group.- I
>>> don't rem
>> emb
>>> > er how long he was able to manage it=2C I think it was about a
>>> year=2C
>> perhaps
>>> > even two=2C but then he also had problems maintaining it and
>>> protecting
>>
>>> > again
>>> > st spam.- After it went down=2C I suggested to Jerry that perhaps
>>> we sh
>> ould
>>> > start a Yahoo group=2C which a number of other aircraft groups had
>>> also
>> done
>>> > .- Jerry asked me to set it up and so I did in August 2001--I
>>> followed
>> Je
>>> > rry's lead (with his blessing) and named it the "Tailwind Forum".- =0
>> A=0A
>>> > About perhaps a year or more-later=2C Matronics was setting up its
>>> vari
>> ous
>>> > e-mail groups=2C and was successful with the RV types among
>>> others.- He
>> exp
>>> > anded to include the "Tailwind-List" among others.- Many liked
>>> this bec
>> au
>>> > se the Matronics Lists didn't have advertisement=2C but for a long
>>> time
>> it
>>> > co
>>> > uld not accommodate pictures.- This was later modified and
>>> pictures and
>> f
>>> > iles were allowed=2C but the Matronics Tailwind List never became
>>> popul
>> ar
>>> > com
>>> > pared to the Tailwind Forum=2C though it has had its stalwart
>>> supporter
>> s.-
>>> > I think this was for a variety of reasons=2C the monthly
>>> admonitions ab
>> out
>>> > co
>>> > ntent on the forums=2C the annual fundraiser/plea for money=2C and
>>> the
>> lack of
>>> > flexibility and content that the Yahoo groups allow (these are my
>>> perso
>> nal
>>> > opinions mindya!).- =0A=0AThe Yahoo Tailwind Forum currently has 88
>> 5 memb
>>> > ers worldwide=2C and a wealth of information on the
>>> Tailwind-between th
>> e pi
>>> > ctures=2C links and files on the forum site=2C not to mention the
>>> avera
>> ge of
>>> > 40
>>> > 0 to over 800 posts per month=2C which are archived and
>>> searchable.- Ye
>> s it
>>> > still has some advertisement=2C but it is fairly unobtrusive.- It
>>> allow
>> s t
>>> > he owners and-moderators to be changed=2C and the group can have
>>> input
>> into
>>> > these if they need to.- For example=2C on another Yahoo group that
>>> I fr
>> equ
>>> > ent=2C the Owner disappeared=2C and the group was getting a fair
>>> amount
>> of
>>> > spam
>>> > because the membership was wide open to anyone.- I worked with
>>> Yahoo=2C
>> an
>>> > d we got two new moderators who now monitor the memberships=2C and
>>> who
>> have
>>> > p
>>> > ut much more content on the site.- It is now-much better.=0A=0AI am
>> not
>>> > trying to bash the Tailwind list--I have been a member of it since
>>> ince
>> pti
>>> > on--and it is=2C and always has been=2C-listed on the Tailwind
>>> forum as
>> an al
>>> > ternate group.- However=2C like many Matronics groups=2C it is not
>>> used
>> very
>>> > much.- I know this is not the preference of those who like the
>>> Matronic
>> s
>>> > group better=2C but it is the fact.=0A=0ADave Magaw=0AN168A=0AS
>> acramento=2C CA
>>> > =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "Fl
>> amini=2C Dennis=2C
>>> > F
>>> > ran" <flamini2@comcast.net>=0ATo: tailwind-list@matronics.com=0ASen
>> t:
>>> > Frida
>>> > y=2C February 27=2C 2009 3:11:07 PM=0ASubject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-2
>> 90 and
>>> > oth
>>> > er Lycoming info=0A=0A=0APat=2C=0A-=0AThe Tailwind forum at m
>> atronics was t
>>> > he only site for some time and has lots of archived info.=0Ai think i
>> t was
>>> > one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due to ability
>>> to-a
>> dd
>>> > photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo=0AMatt added
>> the sam
>>> > e thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on Yahoo.=0Ai try to
>> post
>>> > t
>>> > o both since i have some friends that refuse to switch to Yahoo.=0A-
>> =0ATe
>>> > ll me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?=0A-
>> =0ADen
>>> > nis=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFro
>> m: patrick reill
>>> > y =0ATo: Tailwind Matronics =0ASent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009
>> 12:29
>>> > PM=0AS
>>> > ubject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info=0ADennis=2C
>> I live
>>> > i
>>> > n Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am currently rebuilding a
>>> > Kitfo
>>> > x and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. The- Matronix
>>> websi
>> te
>>> > is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount of info from
>>> the
>> web
>>> > site. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active website. I have
>>> been t
>> old
>>> > the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think the format
>>> is as
>> user
>>> > friendly as this Matronix site.=0A=0APat Reilly=0AMod 3 582
>>> > Rebuild=0ARockf
>>> > ord=2C IL=0A=0A=0A=0A-=0A________________________________=0
>> AFrom: flamini2@
>>> > comcast.net=0ATo: thorplist@yahoogroups.com=3B
>>> > TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com=3B
>>> > tailwind-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other
>> Lyco
>>> > ming info=0ADate: Fri=2C 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600=0A=0A=0AAll
>> you ever
>>> > want
>>> > ed to know about Lycoming engines=2C=0AJC...not Injuns=3B=0A-=0Ah
>> ttp://www.7t
>>> > s0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/=0A-=0AAnd the GPU=0A-=0Ahttp://www
>> .7ts0.co
>>> > m/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf=0A-=0ADen
>> nis fr
>>> > om Chicago=0A t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>>> > ronic
>>> > s.com ww.matronics.com/contribution =0A href="http://www.matronics
>>> >
>>> .com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwi
>> nd-L
>>> > ist href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com hr
>> ef
>>> > ="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>> =0A
>>> > =========== =0A=0A=0A
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>> ==========
>> ==========
>> ==========
>> ==========
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 5
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 07:32:16 AM PST US
>> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Dave=2C thanks for the info. I am used to the Matronix format so I
>> like it.
>> I am a Hotmail subscriber not Yahoo. I started to sign up for
>> Tailwind for
>> um on Yahoo. I might have even completed signing up but found the
>> format co
>> nfusing after the simplisity of the Matronix site. I don't mind
>> contributin
>> g to the website founder as I would never spend the kind of time it
>> takes t
>> o put one of these together and feel I he deserves it=2C no matter
>> what th
>> e cost=2C I ain't no freeloader. I could not have rebuilt my Kitfox
>> without
>> the info of other members. I guess I will have to sit down and force
>> mysel
>> f to become familiar with the Yahoo website if I am going to use the
>> intern
>> et for Tailwind info. I guess you ain't going to bring the mountain
>> to me.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>> From: pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Not quite correct Dennis. Actually the history of the Tailwind Forum
>> (Yaho
>> o) and Tailwind List (Matronics) is basically as follows:
>>
>> Burt Rudolph first had the Tailwind e-mail list on his website back
>> in the
>> late 1990's. That is when I first joined the group. His list worked
>> for a
>> time=2C then he had troubles maintaining it and periodically it would
>> go d
>> own. He got it going again for a short time=2C but at that time it
>> was a l
>> ot of work to maintain a list. His website was
>> http://www.chlassociates.co
>> m/Aviation/tailwind.htm but it is no longer available and it hadn't
>> been up
>> dated in years.
>>
>> When Jerry Hey took over the Tailwind Times (late 1990s or 2000)=2C
>> he also
>> set up the "Tailwind Forum" e-mail group. I don't remember how long
>> he wa
>> s able to manage it=2C I think it was about a year=2C perhaps even
>> two=2C b
>> ut then he also had problems maintaining it and protecting against
>> spam. A
>> fter it went down=2C I suggested to Jerry that perhaps we should
>> start a Ya
>> hoo group=2C which a number of other aircraft groups had also done.
>> Jerry
>> asked me to set it up and so I did in August 2001--I followed Jerry's
>> lead
>> (with his blessing) and named it the "Tailwind Forum".
>>
>> About perhaps a year or more later=2C Matronics was setting up its
>> various
>> e-mail groups=2C and was successful with the RV types among others.
>> He exp
>> anded to include the "Tailwind-List" among others. Many liked this
>> because
>> the Matronics Lists didn't have advertisement=2C but for a long time
>> it co
>> uld not accommodate pictures. This was later modified and pictures
>> and fil
>> es were allowed=2C but the Matronics Tailwind List never became
>> popular com
>> pared to the Tailwind Forum=2C though it has had its stalwart
>> supporters.
>> I think this was for a variety of reasons=2C the monthly admonitions
>> about
>> content on the forums=2C the annual fundraiser/plea for money=2C and
>> the la
>> ck of flexibility and content that the Yahoo groups allow (these are
>> my per
>> sonal opinions mindya!).
>>
>> The Yahoo Tailwind Forum currently has 885 members worldwide=2C and a
>> wealt
>> h of information on the Tailwind between the pictures=2C links and
>> files on
>> the forum site=2C not to mention the average of 400 to over 800 posts
>> per
>> month=2C which are archived and searchable. Yes it still has some
>> advertis
>> ement=2C but it is fairly unobtrusive. It allows the owners and
>> moderators
>> to be changed=2C and the group can have input into these if they need
>> to.
>> For example=2C on another Yahoo group that I frequent=2C the Owner
>> disappe
>> ared=2C and the group was getting a fair amount of spam because the
>> members
>> hip was wide open to anyone. I worked with Yahoo=2C and we got two
>> new mod
>> erators who now monitor the memberships=2C and who have put much more
>> conte
>> nt on the site. It is now much better.
>>
>> I am not trying to bash the Tailwind list--I have been a member of it
>> since
>> inception--and it is=2C and always has been=2C listed on the Tailwind
>> foru
>> m as an alternate group. However=2C like many Matronics groups=2C it
>> is no
>> t used very much. I know this is not the preference of those who
>> like the
>> Matronics group better=2C but it is the fact.
>>
>> Dave Magaw
>> N168A
>> Sacramento=2C CA
>>
>>
>> From: "Flamini=2C Dennis=2C Fran" <flamini2@comcast.net>
>> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 3:11:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Pat=2C
>>
>> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and
>> has lot
>> s of archived info.
>> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo
>> due to a
>> bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>> Yahoo.
>> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch
>> to Ya
>> hoo.
>>
>> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: patrick reilly
>> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>> Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>> currently
>> rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer.
>> The
>> Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense
>> amount of i
>> nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active
>> website. I
>> have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think
>> the
>> format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>> JC...not Injuns=3B
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>
>> And the GPU
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf
>>
>>
>> Dennis from Chicago
>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronics.com ww.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matron
>> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwin
>>
>> d-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com h
>> ref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>> Tailwind-List" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Na
>> vironics.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://forums.matronics.comww
>> w.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.m
>> ====================
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 6
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 09:07:53 AM PST US
>> From: Dave Magaw <pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>> If you need Yahoo help, let me or Dan Doolin (the other Tailwind
>> forum mode
>> rator, who is very computer savvy) know.- Basically all you need is a
>> Yah
>> oo ID and password, but you will have to use them to access many of
>> the fea
>> tures of the Tailwind forum site.- =0A=0AYes it is true that maintaining
>> e-mail groups does take time and effort, and hardware costs, not to
>> mention
>> overhead, etc, and somehow that cost has to be paid.- Google and Yahoo d
>> o it through advertising, Matronics through donations.- =0A=0AGood to
>> see
>> another tailwind progressing, definitely get you and your Kitfox to
>> Barabo
>> o if
>> possible.=0A=0ADave=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AF
>> rom: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>=0ATo: Tailwind
>> Matronics <tai
>> lwind-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:31:56
>> AM=0A
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info=0A=0ADave,
>> thanks
>> for the info. I am used to the Matronix format so I like it. I am a
>> Hotmai
>> l subscriber not Yahoo. I started to sign up for Tailwind forum on
>> Yahoo. I
>> might have even completed signing up but found the format confusing
>> after
>> the simplisity of the Matronix site. I don't mind contributing to the
>> websi
>> te founder as I would never spend the kind of time it takes to put
>> one of t
>> hese together and feel- I-he deserves it, no matter what the cost, I ai
>> n't no freeloader. I could not have rebuilt my Kitfox without the
>> info of
>> -other members. I guess I will have to sit down and force myself to
>> becom
>> e familiar with the Yahoo website if I am going to use the internet
>> for Tai
>> lwind info. I guess-you-ain't going to bring the mountain to me.=0A=0AP
>> at Reilly=0AMod 3 582 Rebuild=0ARockford,
>> IL=0A=0A=0A=0A-=0A_____________
>> ___________________=0ADate: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:45:34 -0800=0AFrom:
>> pittsfl
>> yers1s@yahoo.com=0ASubject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other
>> Lycoming inf
>> o=0ATo: tailwind-list@matronics.com;
>> TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com=0A=0A=0A
>> Not quite correct Dennis.- Actually the history of the Tailwind Forum
>> (Ya
>> hoo) and Tailwind List (Matronics) is basically as follows:=0A=0ABurt
>> Rudol
>> ph first had the Tailwind e-mail list on his website back in the late
>> 1990'
>> s.- That is when I first joined the group.- His list worked for a time,
>> then he had troubles maintaining it and periodically it would go down.-
>> He got it going again for a short time, but at that time it was a lot
>> of wo
>> rk to maintain a list.- His website was
>> http://www.chlassociates.com/Avia
>> tion/tailwind.htm-but it is no longer available and it hadn't been
>> update
>> d in years.=0A=0AWhen Jerry Hey took over the Tailwind Times (late
>> 1990s or
>> 2000), he also set up the "Tailwind Forum" e-mail group.- I don't rememb
>> er how long he was able to manage it, I think it was about a year,
>> perhaps
>> even two, but then he also had problems maintaining it and protecting
>> again
>> st spam.- After it went down, I suggested to Jerry that perhaps we
>> should
>> start a Yahoo group, which a number of other aircraft groups had also
>> done
>> .- Jerry asked me to set it up and so I did in August 2001--I
>> followed Je
>> rry's lead (with his blessing) and named it the "Tailwind Forum".-
>> =0A=0A
>> About perhaps a year or more-later, Matronics was setting up its various
>> e-mail groups, and was successful with the RV types among others.- He
>> exp
>> anded to include the "Tailwind-List" among others.- Many liked this
>> becau
>> se the Matronics Lists didn't have advertisement, but for a long time
>> it co
>> uld not accommodate pictures.- This was later modified and pictures
>> and f
>> iles were allowed, but the Matronics Tailwind List never became
>> popular com
>> pared to the Tailwind Forum, though it has had its stalwart supporters.-
>> I think this was for a variety of reasons, the monthly admonitions
>> about co
>> ntent on the forums, the annual fundraiser/plea for money, and the
>> lack of
>> flexibility and content that the Yahoo groups allow (these are my
>> personal
>> opinions mindya!).- =0A=0AThe Yahoo Tailwind Forum currently has 885
>> memb
>> ers worldwide, and a wealth of information on the Tailwind-between
>> the pi
>> ctures, links and files on the forum site, not to mention the average
>> of 40
>> 0 to over 800 posts per month, which are archived and searchable.-
>> Yes it
>> still has some advertisement, but it is fairly unobtrusive.- It allows t
>> he owners and-moderators to be changed, and the group can have input
>> into
>> these if they need to.- For example, on another Yahoo group that I frequ
>> ent, the Owner disappeared, and the group was getting a fair amount
>> of spam
>> because the membership was wide open to anyone.- I worked with Yahoo, an
>> d we got two new moderators who now monitor the memberships, and who
>> have p
>> ut much more content on the site.- It is now-much better.=0A=0AI am not
>> trying to bash the Tailwind list--I have been a member of it since
>> incepti
>> on--and it is, and always has been,-listed on the Tailwind forum as
>> an al
>> ternate group.- However, like many Matronics groups, it is not used very
>> much.- I know this is not the preference of those who like the Matronics
>> group better, but it is the fact.=0A=0ADave
>> Magaw=0AN168A=0ASacramento, CA
>> =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "Flamini,
>> Dennis, F
>> ran" <flamini2@comcast.net>=0ATo: tailwind-list@matronics.com=0ASent:
>> Frida
>> y, February 27, 2009 3:11:07 PM=0ASubject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290
>> and oth
>> er Lycoming info=0A=0A=0APat,=0A-=0AThe Tailwind forum at matronics
>> was t
>> he only site for some time and has lots of archived info.=0Ai think
>> it was
>> one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo due to ability
>> to-add
>> photos to posts, shortly after most switched to Yahoo=0AMatt added
>> the sam
>> e thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on Yahoo.=0Ai try to
>> post t
>> o both since i have some friends that refuse to switch to
>> Yahoo.=0A-=0ATe
>> ll me more about yourself and the Kitfox and
>> Tailwind...photos?=0A-=0ADen
>> nis=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: patrick
>> reill
>> y =0ATo: Tailwind Matronics =0ASent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:29
>> PM=0AS
>> ubject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info=0ADennis, I
>> live i
>> n Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am currently rebuilding a
>> Kitfo
>> x and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. The- Matronix
>> website
>> is extremely active. I have learned an immense amount of info from
>> the web
>> site. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active website. I have been
>> told
>> the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But, I don't think the format is as
>> user
>> friendly as this Matronix site.=0A=0APat Reilly=0AMod 3 582
>> Rebuild=0ARockf
>> ord, IL=0A=0A=0A=0A-=0A________________________________=0AFrom:
>> flamini2@
>> comcast.net=0ATo: thorplist@yahoogroups.com;
>> TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com;
>> tailwind-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other
>> Lyco
>> ming info=0ADate: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600=0A=0A=0AAll you
>> ever want
>> ed to know about Lycoming engines,=0AJC...not
>> Injuns;=0A-=0Ahttp://www.7t
>> s0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/=0A-=0AAnd the GPU=0A-=0Ahttp://www.7ts0.co
>> m/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf=0A-=0ADennis
>> fr
>> om Chicago=0A t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronic
>> s.com ww.matronics.com/contribution =0A
>> href="http://www.matronics
>> .com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-L
>>
>> ist href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> href
>> ="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =0A
>> Tailwind-List" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Na
>> vironics.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://forums.matronics.comww
>> w.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.m
>> ===================== =0A=0A
>> =0A=0At">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List=0Aronics.com=0Aww
>>
>> ======0A=0A=0A
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 7
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 09:46:40 AM PST US
>> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Dave=2C Your's=2C and a few other's messages don't read down the page
>> witho
>> ut moving the screen right to left. I would imagine that some how or
>> other
>> you are in landscape format. Is that correct=2C and=2C if so why? It
>> is dif
>> ficult to read a message moving the screen back and forth. I have
>> seen this
>> before and it just dawned on me it looks like the landscape format.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>> From: pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> If you need Yahoo help=2C let me or Dan Doolin (the other Tailwind
>> forum mo
>> derator=2C who is very computer savvy) know. Basically all you need
>> is a Y
>> ahoo ID and password=2C but you will have to use them to access many
>> of the
>> features of the Tailwind forum site.
>>
>> Yes it is true that maintaining e-mail groups does take time and
>> effort=2C
>> and hardware costs=2C not to mention overhead=2C etc=2C and somehow
>> that co
>> st has to be paid. Google and Yahoo do it through advertising=2C
>> Matronics
>> through donations.
>>
>> Good to see another tailwind progressing=2C definitely get you and
>> your Kit
>> fox to Baraboo if possible.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday=2C February 28=2C 2009 7:31:56 AM
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Dave=2C thanks for the info. I am used to the Matronix format so I
>> like it.
>> I am a Hotmail subscriber not Yahoo. I started to sign up for
>> Tailwind for
>> um on Yahoo. I might have even completed signing up but found the
>> format co
>> nfusing after the simplisity of the Matronix site. I don't mind
>> contributin
>> g to the website founder as I would never spend the kind of time it
>> takes t
>> o put one of these together and feel I he deserves it=2C no matter
>> what th
>> e cost=2C I ain't no freeloader. I could not have rebuilt my Kitfox
>> without
>> the info of other members. I guess I will have to sit down and force
>> mysel
>> f to become familiar with the Yahoo website if I am going to use the
>> intern
>> et for Tailwind info. I guess you ain't going to bring the mountain
>> to me.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>> From: pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Not quite correct Dennis. Actually the history of the Tailwind Forum
>> (Yaho
>> o) and Tailwind List (Matronics) is basically as follows:
>>
>> Burt Rudolph first had the Tailwind e-mail list on his website back
>> in the
>> late 1990's. That is when I first joined the group. His list worked
>> for a
>> time=2C then he had troubles maintaining it and periodically it would
>> go d
>> own. He got it going again for a short time=2C but at that time it
>> was a l
>> ot of work to maintain a list. His website was
>> http://www.chlassociates.co
>> m/Aviation/tailwind.htm but it is no longer available and it hadn't
>> been up
>> dated in years.
>>
>> When Jerry Hey took over the Tailwind Times (late 1990s or 2000)=2C
>> he also
>> set up the "Tailwind Forum" e-mail group. I don't remember how long
>> he wa
>> s able to manage it=2C I think it was about a year=2C perhaps even
>> two=2C b
>> ut then he also had problems maintaining it and protecting against
>> spam. A
>> fter it went down=2C I suggested to Jerry that perhaps we should
>> start a Ya
>> hoo group=2C which a number of other aircraft groups had also done.
>> Jerry
>> asked me to set it up and so I did in August 2001--I followed Jerry's
>> lead
>> (with his blessing) and named it the "Tailwind Forum".
>>
>> About perhaps a year or more later=2C Matronics was setting up its
>> various
>> e-mail groups=2C and was successful with the RV types among others.
>> He exp
>> anded to include the "Tailwind-List" among others. Many liked this
>> because
>> the Matronics Lists didn't have advertisement=2C but for a long time
>> it co
>> uld not accommodate pictures. This was later modified and pictures
>> and fil
>> es were allowed=2C but the Matronics Tailwind List never became
>> popular com
>> pared to the Tailwind Forum=2C though it has had its stalwart
>> supporters.
>> I think this was for a variety of reasons=2C the monthly admonitions
>> about
>> content on the forums=2C the annual fundraiser/plea for money=2C and
>> the la
>> ck of flexibility and content that the Yahoo groups allow (these are
>> my per
>> sonal opinions mindya!).
>>
>> The Yahoo Tailwind Forum currently has 885 members worldwide=2C and a
>> wealt
>> h of information on the Tailwind between the pictures=2C links and
>> files on
>> the forum site=2C not to mention the average of 400 to over 800 posts
>> per
>> month=2C which are archived and searchable. Yes it still has some
>> advertis
>> ement=2C but it is fairly unobtrusive. It allows the owners and
>> moderators
>> to be changed=2C and the group can have input into these if they need
>> to.
>> For example=2C on another Yahoo group that I frequent=2C the Owner
>> disappe
>> ared=2C and the group was getting a fair amount of spam because the
>> members
>> hip was wide open to anyone. I worked with Yahoo=2C and we got two
>> new mod
>> erators who now monitor the memberships=2C and who have put much more
>> conte
>> nt on the site. It is now much better.
>>
>> I am not trying to bash the Tailwind list--I have been a member of it
>> since
>> inception--and it is=2C and always has been=2C listed on the Tailwind
>> foru
>> m as an alternate group. However=2C like many Matronics groups=2C it
>> is no
>> t used very much. I know this is not the preference of those who
>> like the
>> Matronics group better=2C but it is the fact.
>>
>> Dave Magaw
>> N168A
>> Sacramento=2C CA
>>
>>
>> From: "Flamini=2C Dennis=2C Fran" <flamini2@comcast.net>
>> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 3:11:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> Pat=2C
>>
>> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and
>> has lot
>> s of archived info.
>> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo
>> due to a
>> bility to add photos to posts=2C shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>> Yahoo.
>> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch
>> to Ya
>> hoo.
>>
>> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: patrick reilly
>> Sent: Friday=2C February 27=2C 2009 12:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>> Dennis=2C I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>> currently
>> rebuilding a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer.
>> The
>> Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense
>> amount of i
>> nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active
>> website. I
>> have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But=2C I don't think
>> the
>> format is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford=2C IL
>>
>>
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines=2C
>> JC...not Injuns=3B
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>>
>> And the GPU
>>
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf
>>
>>
>> Dennis from Chicago
>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronics.com ww.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matron
>> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwin
>>
>> d-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com h
>> ref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>> Tailwind-List" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Na
>> vironics.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://forums.matronics.comww
>> w.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.m
>> ====================
>>
>>
>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronics.com
>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tnics.com/" target=_blank rel=nofoll
>> ow>http://forums.matronics.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contributio
>> n" target=_blank rel=nofol
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 8
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 10:33:25 AM PST US
>> From: "John Downing" <downing.j@sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Tailwind-List: Baraboo
>>
>> Pat, I like many others am planning the trip to Baraboo again this year.
>> My Tailwind, a W-10, Mazda powered, was together and weighed 3 weeks
>> ago, but is apart again to modify and correct some things. I'm not sure
>> if my granddaughter Caitlyn will be able to attend Baraboo this year or
>> not, she will be a junior in high school and the kid is active in many
>> different things. I follow both of the Tailwind list's on line and
>> there being over 800 folks on the Yahoo site, it is the dominate one. so
>> sign up and enjoy the site and all the Baraboo gang's pictures and
>> activities. Farmer John....Marion, MI
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 9
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 10:42:19 AM PST US
>> From: "Mike & \"Jaz\"" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>> And there's always three of the same message....
>> -
>> -Somebody has it on "Full Auto".....
>> -------------------------
>> -------------------------
>> -- Gotta Fly...
>>
>>
>> Buttercup - STOL - Aircraft
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Buttercup-STOL/
>>
>> Firestar I&II - STOL - Aircraft
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kolb_Firestar/
>>
>> My Web Site:
>> http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html
>> -
>> Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the
>> way do
>> wn...
>>
>>
>> --- On Sat, 2/28/09, patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> #yiv680254161 .hmmessage P
>> {
>> margin:0px;padding:0px;}
>> #yiv680254161 {
>> font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}
>>
>> Dave, Your's, and a few other's messages don't read down the page
>> without m
>> oving the screen right to left. I would imagine that some how or
>> other you
>> are in landscape format. Is that correct, and, if so why? It is
>> difficult t
>> o read-a message moving the screen back and forth. I have seen this
>> befor
>> e and it just dawned on me it looks like the landscape format.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford, IL
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>>
>> From: pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> #yiv680254161 .ExternalClass DIV
>> {}
>>
>>
>> If you need Yahoo help, let me or Dan Doolin (the other Tailwind
>> forum mode
>> rator, who is very computer savvy) know.- Basically all you need is a
>> Yah
>> oo ID and password, but you will have to use them to access many of
>> the fea
>> tures of the Tailwind forum site.-
>> -
>> Yes it is true that maintaining e-mail groups does take time and
>> effort, an
>> d hardware costs, not to mention overhead, etc, and somehow that cost
>> has t
>> o be paid.- Google and Yahoo do it through advertising, Matronics
>> through
>> donations.-
>> -
>> Good to see another tailwind progressing, definitely get you and your
>> Kitfo
>> x to Baraboo if possible.
>> -
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:31:56 AM
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
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>> Dave, thanks for the info. I am used to the Matronix format so I like
>> it. I
>> am a Hotmail subscriber not Yahoo. I started to sign up for Tailwind
>> forum
>> on Yahoo. I might have even completed signing up but found the format
>> conf
>> using after the simplisity of the Matronix site. I don't mind
>> contributing
>> to the website founder as I would never spend the kind of time it
>> takes to
>> put one of these together and feel- I-he deserves it, no matter what th
>> e cost, I ain't no freeloader. I could not have rebuilt my Kitfox
>> without t
>> he info of-other members. I guess I will have to sit down and force
>> mysel
>> f to become familiar with the Yahoo website if I am going to use the
>> intern
>> et for Tailwind info. I guess-you-ain't going to bring the mountain to
>> me.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford, IL
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>>
>> From: pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> #yiv680254161 .ExternalClass DIV
>> {}
>>
>>
>> Not quite correct Dennis.- Actually the history of the Tailwind Forum
>> (Ya
>> hoo) and Tailwind List (Matronics) is basically as follows:
>> -
>> Burt Rudolph first had the Tailwind e-mail list on his website back
>> in the
>> late 1990's.- That is when I first joined the group.- His list worked f
>> or a time, then he had troubles maintaining it and periodically it
>> would go
>> down.- He got it going again for a short time, but at that time it was a
>> lot of work to maintain a list.- His website was http://www.chlassociate
>> s.com/Aviation/tailwind.htm-but it is no longer available and it
>> hadn't b
>> een updated in years.
>> -
>> When Jerry Hey took over the Tailwind Times (late 1990s or 2000), he
>> also s
>> et up the "Tailwind Forum" e-mail group.- I don't remember how long
>> he wa
>> s able to manage it, I think it was about a year, perhaps even two,
>> but the
>> n he also had problems maintaining it and protecting against spam.-
>> After
>> it went down, I suggested to Jerry that perhaps we should start a
>> Yahoo gr
>> oup, which a number of other aircraft groups had also done.- Jerry asked
>> me to set it up and so I did in August 2001--I followed Jerry's lead
>> (with
>> his blessing) and named it the "Tailwind Forum".-
>> -
>> About perhaps a year or more-later, Matronics was setting up its various
>> e-mail groups, and was successful with the RV types among others.- He
>> exp
>> anded to include the "Tailwind-List" among others.- Many liked this
>> becau
>> se the Matronics Lists didn't have advertisement, but for a long time
>> it co
>> uld not accommodate pictures.- This was later modified and pictures
>> and f
>> iles were allowed, but the Matronics Tailwind List never became
>> popular com
>> pared to the Tailwind Forum, though it has had its stalwart supporters.-
>> I think this was for a variety of reasons, the monthly admonitions
>> about co
>> ntent on the forums, the annual fundraiser/plea for money, and the
>> lack of
>> flexibility and content that the Yahoo groups allow (these are my
>> personal
>> opinions mindya!).-
>> -
>> The Yahoo Tailwind Forum currently has 885 members worldwide, and a
>> wealth
>> of information on the Tailwind-between the pictures, links and files
>> on t
>> he forum site, not to mention the average of 400 to over 800 posts
>> per mont
>> h, which are archived and searchable.- Yes it still has some
>> advertisemen
>> t, but it is fairly unobtrusive.- It allows the owners and-moderators t
>> o be changed, and the group can have input into these if they need
>> to.- F
>> or example, on another Yahoo group that I frequent, the Owner
>> disappeared,
>> and the group was getting a fair amount of spam because the
>> membership was
>> wide open to anyone.- I worked with Yahoo, and we got two new moderators
>> who now monitor the memberships, and who have put much more content
>> on the
>> site.- It is now-much better.
>> -
>> I am not trying to bash the Tailwind list--I have been a member of it
>> since
>> inception--and it is, and always has been,-listed on the Tailwind forum
>> as an alternate group.- However, like many Matronics groups, it is
>> not us
>> ed very much.- I know this is not the preference of those who like
>> the Ma
>> tronics group better, but it is the fact.
>> -
>> Dave Magaw
>> N168A
>> Sacramento, CA
>> -
>>
>>
>> From: "Flamini, Dennis, Fran" <flamini2@comcast.net>
>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:11:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> Pat,
>> -
>> The Tailwind forum at matronics was the only site for some time and
>> has lot
>> s of archived info.
>> i think it was one of the Fresno guys that got us started on Yahoo
>> due to a
>> bility to-add photos to posts, shortly after most switched to Yahoo
>> Matt added the same thing to Matronics but almost everyone stayed on
>> Yahoo.
>> i try to post to both since i have some friends that refuse to switch
>> to Ya
>> hoo.
>> -
>> Tell me more about yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?
>> -
>> Dennis
>> -
>> -
>> -
>> -
>> -
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: patrick reilly
>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:29 PM
>> Subject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>> Dennis, I live in Rockford and have a W10 in need of TLC. I am
>> currently re
>> building a Kitfox and plan on starting on the Tailwind this summer. The-
>> Matronix website is extremely active. I have learned an immense
>> amount of i
>> nfo from the website. I wish the Tailwind site was a more active
>> website. I
>> have been told the Yahoo Tailwind forum is good. But, I don't think
>> the fo
>> rmat is as user friendly as this Matronix site.
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford, IL
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>>
>> From: flamini2@comcast.net
>> @matronics.com
>> Subject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>>
>> All you ever wanted to know about Lycoming engines,
>> JC...not Injuns;
>> -
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/
>> -
>> And the GPU
>> -
>> http://www.7ts0.com/manuals/lycoming/290/Lycoming_0-290-GPU_Conv_0-290D.pdf
>>
>> -
>> Dennis from Chicago
>> t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List
>> ronics.com ww.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matron
>> ics.com/Navigator?Tailwind-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Tailwin
>>
>> d-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com h
>> ref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
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>> vironics.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://forums.matronics.comww
>> w.matronics.com/contribution" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.m
>> ====================
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>>
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>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
>>
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>> ow>http://forums.matronics.com
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>> n" target=_blank rel=nofol
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>> ronics.com
>> ww.matronics.com/contribution
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>>
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>>
>> ________________________________ Message 10
>> ____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 05:24:28 PM PST US
>> From: Dave Magaw <pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info
>>
>> You got me Pat.- It comes out fine on my screen.- I get some weird char
>> acters when I view the messages on my tiny Blackberry screen, but
>> when on t
>> he home or work computer they look are fine.=0A=0ADave
>> M=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____
>> ____________________________=0AFrom: patrick reilly
>> <patreilly43@hotmail.co
>> m>=0ATo: Tailwind Matronics <tailwind-list@matronics.com>=0ASent:
>> Saturday,
>> February 28, 2009 9:45:03 AM=0ASubject: RE: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and
>> other
>> Lycoming info=0A=0ADave, Your's, and a few other's messages don't
>> read dow
>> n the page without moving the screen right to left. I would imagine
>> that so
>> me how or other you are in landscape format. Is that correct, and, if
>> so wh
>> y? It is difficult to read-a message moving the screen back and forth. I
>> have seen this before and it just dawned on me it looks like the
>> landscape
>> format.=0A=0APat Reilly=0AMod 3 582 Rebuild=0ARockford, IL=0A=0A=0A=0A-
>> =0A________________________________=0ADate: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:05:55
>> -0800
>> =0AFrom: pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com=0ASubject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290
>> and ot
>> her Lycoming info=0ATo: tailwind-list@matronics.com=0A=0A=0AIf you
>> need Yah
>> oo help, let me or Dan Doolin (the other Tailwind forum moderator,
>> who is v
>> ery computer savvy) know.- Basically all you need is a Yahoo ID and
>> passw
>> ord, but you will have to use them to access many of the features of
>> the Ta
>> ilwind forum site.- =0A=0AYes it is true that maintaining e-mail
>> groups d
>> oes take time and effort, and hardware costs, not to mention
>> overhead, etc,
>> and somehow that cost has to be paid.- Google and Yahoo do it through ad
>> vertising, Matronics through donations.- =0A=0AGood to see another
>> tailwi
>> nd progressing, definitely get you and your Kitfox to Baraboo if
>> possible.
>> =0A=0ADave=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:
>> patrick r
>> eilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>=0ATo: Tailwind Matronics
>> <tailwind-list@mat
>> ronics.com>=0ASent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:31:56 AM=0ASubject:
>> RE: T
>> ailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info=0A=0ADave, thanks for the
>> info.
>> I am used to the Matronix format so I like it. I am a Hotmail
>> subscriber n
>> ot Yahoo. I started to sign up for Tailwind forum on Yahoo. I might
>> have ev
>> en completed signing up but found the format confusing after the
>> simplisity
>> of the Matronix site. I don't mind contributing to the website
>> founder as
>> I would never spend the kind of time it takes to put one of these
>> together
>> and feel- I-he deserves it, no matter what the cost, I ain't no freeloa
>> der. I could not have rebuilt my Kitfox without the info of-other
>> members
>> . I guess I will have to sit down and force myself to become familiar
>> with
>> the Yahoo website if I am going to use the internet for Tailwind
>> info. I gu
>> ess-you-ain't going to bring the mountain to me.=0A=0APat Reilly=0AMod
>> 3 582 Rebuild=0ARockford,
>> IL=0A=0A=0A=0A-=0A_____________________________
>> ___=0ADate: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:45:34 -0800=0AFrom:
>> pittsflyers1s@yahoo.com
>> =0ASubject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info=0ATo:
>> tailwind
>> -list@matronics.com; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com=0A=0A=0ANot quite
>> correc
>> t Dennis.- Actually the history of the Tailwind Forum (Yahoo) and
>> Tailwin
>> d List (Matronics) is basically as follows:=0A=0ABurt Rudolph first
>> had the
>> Tailwind e-mail list on his website back in the late 1990's.- That is wh
>> en I first joined the group.- His list worked for a time, then he had
>> tro
>> ubles maintaining it and periodically it would go down.- He got it going
>> again for a short time, but at that time it was a lot of work to
>> maintain a
>> list.- His website was http://www.chlassociates.com/Aviation/tailwind.ht
>> m-but it is no longer available and it hadn't been updated in years.=0A
>> =0AWhen Jerry Hey took over the Tailwind Times (late 1990s or 2000),
>> he als
>> o set up the "Tailwind Forum" e-mail group.- I don't remember how
>> long he
>> was able to manage it, I think it was about a year, perhaps even two,
>> but
>> then he also had problems maintaining it and protecting against
>> spam.- Af
>> ter it went down, I suggested to Jerry that perhaps we should start a
>> Yahoo
>> group, which a number of other aircraft groups had also done.- Jerry ask
>> ed me to set it up and so I did in August 2001--I followed Jerry's
>> lead (wi
>> th his blessing) and named it the "Tailwind Forum".- =0A=0AAbout perhaps
>> a year or more-later, Matronics was setting up its various e-mail
>> groups,
>> and was successful with the RV types among others.- He expanded to inclu
>> de the "Tailwind-List" among others.- Many liked this because the
>> Matroni
>> cs Lists didn't have advertisement, but for a long time it could not
>> accomm
>> odate pictures.- This was later modified and pictures and files were
>> allo
>> wed, but the Matronics Tailwind List never became popular compared to
>> the T
>> ailwind Forum, though it has had its stalwart supporters.- I think
>> this w
>> as for a variety of reasons, the monthly admonitions about content on
>> the f
>> orums, the annual fundraiser/plea for money, and the lack of
>> flexibility an
>> d content that the Yahoo groups allow (these are my personal opinions
>> mindy
>> a!).- =0A=0AThe Yahoo Tailwind Forum currently has 885 members
>> worldwide,
>> and a wealth of information on the Tailwind-between the pictures, links
>> and files on the forum site, not to mention the average of 400 to
>> over 800
>> posts per month, which are archived and searchable.- Yes it still has
>> som
>> e advertisement, but it is fairly unobtrusive.- It allows the owners and
>> -moderators to be changed, and the group can have input into these if
>> the
>> y need to.- For example, on another Yahoo group that I frequent, the
>> Owne
>> r disappeared, and the group was getting a fair amount of spam
>> because the
>> membership was wide open to anyone.- I worked with Yahoo, and we got two
>> new moderators who now monitor the memberships, and who have put much
>> more
>> content on the site.- It is now-much better.=0A=0AI am not trying to ba
>> sh the Tailwind list--I have been a member of it since inception--and
>> it is
>> , and always has been,-listed on the Tailwind forum as an alternate
>> group
>> .- However, like many Matronics groups, it is not used very much.- I kn
>> ow this is not the preference of those who like the Matronics group
>> better,
>> but it is the fact.=0A=0ADave Magaw=0AN168A=0ASacramento, CA=0A=0A=0A=0A
>> =0A________________________________=0AFrom: "Flamini, Dennis, Fran"
>> <flamin
>> i2@comcast.net>=0ATo: tailwind-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Friday,
>> February
>> 27, 2009 3:11:07 PM=0ASubject: Re: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other
>> Lycoming
>> info=0A=0A=0APat,=0A-=0AThe Tailwind forum at matronics was the only
>> site
>> for some time and has lots of archived info.=0Ai think it was one of
>> the F
>> resno guys that got us started on Yahoo due to ability to-add photos
>> to p
>> osts, shortly after most switched to Yahoo=0AMatt added the same
>> thing to M
>> atronics but almost everyone stayed on Yahoo.=0Ai try to post to both
>> since
>> i have some friends that refuse to switch to Yahoo.=0A-=0ATell me more a
>> bout yourself and the Kitfox and Tailwind...photos?=0A-=0ADennis=0A-=0A
>> =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: patrick reilly
>> =0ATo: Tai
>> lwind Matronics =0ASent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:29
>> PM=0ASubject: RE:
>> Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming info=0ADennis, I live in
>> Rockford a
>> nd have a W10 in need of TLC. I am currently rebuilding a Kitfox and
>> plan o
>> n starting on the Tailwind this summer. The- Matronix website is
>> extremel
>> y active. I have learned an immense amount of info from the website.
>> I wish
>> the Tailwind site was a more active website. I have been told the
>> Yahoo Ta
>> ilwind forum is good. But, I don't think the format is as user
>> friendly as
>> this Matronix site.=0A=0APat Reilly=0AMod 3 582 Rebuild=0ARockford,
>> IL=0A
>> =0A=0A=0A-=0A________________________________=0AFrom:
>> flamini2@comcast.ne
>> t=0ATo: thorplist@yahoogroups.com; TailwindForum@yahoogroups.com;
>> tailwind-
>> list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Tailwind-List: 0-290 and other Lycoming
>> info
>> =0ADate: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:35:38 -0600=0A=0A=0AAll you ever wanted
>> to kno
>> w about Lycoming engines,=0AJC...not
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Fred, Have you got the new tailwind.............Will it be in AZ anytime soon?
what have you been up to......besides work?.......Is Ted on this list?
Read this topic online here:
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Yes........ Bought it during the worst of economical times........
Very nice airplane. But then, both of them are very very nice. Ted is
around but I don't think he's on the list. We both are dying to get down
to AZ but I'm not sure if Jim and Donna are there yet. We usually get a
notice.........
Tailwinds are wonderful machines........
Weav
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> Fred, Have you got the new tailwind.............Will it be in AZ anytime soon?
what have you been up to......besides work?.......Is Ted on this list?
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are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post
30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these
folks and the rest of us, for that matter.
2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000
pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just
unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture
down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the
file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows
you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically
scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Look for the link "Image Resizer"
3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not
post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother.
And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even
questionable. !!
4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members
subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting
to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and
BE COURTEOUS!
Also see the section below on the Matronics Photo and File Share where
you can have your files and photos posted on the Matronics web server
for long time viewing and availability.
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*** Realtime Web Email List Browsing ***
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the Web for realtime browsing. Seven days worth of back postings are
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updated twice per hour at xx:15 and xx:45. You can also reply to a message
or start a new message directly from the List Browser Interface (coming soon).
You do not have to be subscribed to the given list to use the List
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content. The Forums contain all of the same content available via the email
distribution and found on the various archive viewing formats such as the
List Browse, etc. Any posts on the web Forums will be cross posted to the
respective email List, and posts to the Email List will be cross posted to
the web Forums.
You may view all List content on the Forums without any special login.
If you wish to post a message via the Web Forum interface, however, you
will need to Register. This is a simple process that takes only a few
minutes. A link to the Registration page can be found at the top of the
main web Forums page. Note that registering on the Forum web site also
enables you to send email posts to the Lists as well. You will also need to
Subscribe to the respective Email List as described above to receive the
Email Distribution of the List, however.
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information, Matronics has installed a Wiki at:
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The Wiki allows individuals to create web pages to contain useful information
for other users of the mailing lists and web site. Unlike an ordinary web page
where the content needs to be submitted to Matronics for inclusion, the Wiki
permits the users to construct their own pages and have them visible immediately.
While constructing pages for the Wiki is not difficult, some may not be
comfortable building pages. In that case, simply prepare the text and any
images and email it to:
wiki-support@matronics.com
One of the volunteers on that list will take your submission and construct
a Wiki page for you.
Often someone produces a particularly useful posting in email one one of the
Lists that would be of general interest. In that case Matronics may take that
post and convert it into a Wiki page.
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available on line. The archive file information is available via the
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- Latest version of the Tailwind-List Frequently Asked Question
page (this document).
* Tailwind-Archive.digest.complete
- Complete file with most of the email header info removed and
page breaks inserted between messages.
* Tailwind-Archive.digest.vol-??
- Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections that
can more easily handled.
* Tailwind-Archive.digest.complete.zip
- Same as the Tailwind-Archive.digest.complete file above, but
in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
* Tailwind-Archive.digest.complete.Z
- Same as the Tailwind-Archive.digest.complete file above, but in
UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
Download Via FTP
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The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com
in the "/pub/Archives" directory. It is updated daily and can be found in
a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.)
ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
Download Via Web
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The archives are also available via a web listing. These can be found
toward the bottom of the following web page:
http://www.matronics.com/archives
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*** Complete List Web Archive Browsing ***
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All messages posted to the Tailwind-List are also available using the
Email List Archive Browsing feature. With this utility, all messages
in the List are indexed, and individual sub-archives can be browsed.
http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-index.cgi?Tailwind
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**** High-Speed Archive Search Engine ***
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You can use the custom, high-performance Matronics Email List Search Engine
to quickly locate and browse any messages that have been posted to the
List. The Engine allows the user to easily search any of the currently
available List archives.
http://www.matronics.com/search
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*** File and Photo Share ***
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With the Matronics Email List File and Photo Share you can share pictures
and other data with members of the List without having to forward a
copy of it to everyone. To share your Files and Photos, simply email
them to:
pictures@matronics.com
!! ==> Please including the following information with each submission:
1) Email Lists that they are related to.
2) Your Full Name.
3) Your Email Address.
4) One line Subject description.
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic.
6-x) One-line Description of each photo or file
Prior to public availability of the files and photos, each will be scanned
for viruses. Please also note that the process of making the files and
photos available on the web site is a pseudo-manual process, and I try to
process them every few days.
Following the availability of the new Photoshare, an email message will be
sent to the Email Lists enumerated in 1) above indicating that the new
Share is available and what the direct URL to it is.
For a current list of available Photoshares, have a look at the Main
Index Page:
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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*** List Archive CDROM ***
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A complete Matronics Email List Archive CD is available that contains
all of the archives since the beginning of each of the Lists. The archives
for all of the Lists are included on the CD along with a freeware search
engine written by a list member. The CD is burned the day you order it
and will contain archive received up to the last minute. They make
great gifts!
http://www.matronics.com/ArchiveCDROM
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Failure to use the Tailwind-List in the manner described below may result
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Dear Listers,
Please read over the Tailwind-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Tailwind-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Tailwind-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Tailwind-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Tailwind-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Tailwind-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Tailwind-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Tailwind-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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