---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/15/03: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:47 AM - new cowling (James Grieco) 2. 09:53 AM - Re: new cowling (Aucountry@aol.com) 3. 12:40 PM - New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... (dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)) 4. 01:41 PM - Re: New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... (James Courtney) 5. 03:32 PM - Re: New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... (dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)) 6. 09:51 PM - Re: New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... (James Courtney) 7. 10:19 PM - [QT]Re: New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... (ThomasTholmes512@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:18 AM PST US From: James Grieco Subject: TeamGrumman-List: new cowling --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: James Grieco It looks great, nice job. A few questions: > > How does one check the oil. Is there an oil door that I can't see in the > pictures? > Did the stock cowling flow visulation test include flight tests? It looks > like just ground runs in the pictures. > Do you have the before and after flight test data side by side? > Airspeed/rpm/temperatures etc. > Where does the intake and oil cooler get air from? Still from the top of > the plenum? > Do you think the DMA exhaust fairing would hinder the performance of the > new cowl? It may not do much for cooling, but it looks good to me. > > HOW MUCH????? > > All in all a fabulous looking cowling. __________________________________ http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:53:12 AM PST US From: Aucountry@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: new cowling --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com In a message dated 09/15/03 06:48:41 AM, jamesgrieco@yahoo.com writes: > > How does one check the oil. Is there an oil door that I can't see in the > pictures? > ....... you need to open the cowling using the cam locks. > > Did the stock cowling flow visulation test include flight tests? It > looks like just ground runs in the pictures. Do you have the before and after > flight test data side by side? > > Airspeed/rpm/temperatures etc. > ....... Look at all the pictures on the stock cowling tests. Only the first four are before flight. ....... not sure what you mean by airspeed/rpm/temperatures > > Where does the intake and oil cooler get air from? Still from the top of > the plenum? > ....... The best place for the oil cooler is as close to the rear of the engine as possible. keep the hoses short to keep pressure losses down. The oil cooler is in the same place. You can see this in the Baffle pictures. To get the cowling in the air as quickly as possible, I used the original Tiger airbox. I'm pulling air off the back just like the stock setup. This is not a bad setup. The available air, on top of the engine (plenum) is more than adequate. In fact, based on the first 10 hours or so of flight tests, the inlets could be reduced in size another 30% and not effect the cooling. These inlets are significantly more efficient than the stock inlets. > > Do you think the DMA exhaust fairing would hinder the performance of the > new cowl? It may not do much for cooling, but it looks good to me. > ....... The DMA exhaust fairing adds more drag than it reduces. My finished cowling will have a small fairing behind the exhaust pipe that will aid in keeping the flow from separately behind the tail pipe. The finished cowling will quite possibly do away with the nose gear boot also. > > HOW MUCH????? > ....... Well, let's see, I've got about $34,000 in it right now. LoPresti sells a nose bowl for $3000 that costs about $200 to make. If I use the same markup, ........ ....... I'm planning on somewhere in the $8,000 range IF I can get the cowling approved WITHOUT hiring a DER for another $10,000-$20,000. Gary www.AuCountry.com Home of "Team Grumman" TeamGrumman-List@matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/subscribe ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:40:00 PM PST US From: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Subject: TeamGrumman-List: New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Dear Listers, I will be installing a new SPAM and virus blocking appliance this evening or tomorrow. The installation will involve some changes in the Matronics DNS MX records, and will impact how incoming email is handled. While I expect these changes to be transparent to all of the List subscribers, things might go differently... ;-) The Lists get bombarded with tons of SPAM messages and viruses each day and fortunately my custom filters have been extremely effective at filtering most of this from redistribution. Its time to move to the next level of technology, however, and this SPAM and Virus filtering appliance seems like an excellent solution. I will post a follow up message later in the week when things have stabilized and I have some filter statistics to share. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:41:26 PM PST US From: "James Courtney" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" Good luck Matt. What appliance will you be using? It sounds like separate hardware from your mail server since you mention "appliance" and thus I assume all mail is routed through it (thus the modification of MX records) to the mail server with the appliance filtering out all crud based on configurable rules and virus definitions. I'd love to know what you're using and what kind of volume it can handle or just point me at the vendors web site. Jamey James Courtney AA5B N72T & curious software engineer -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Subject: TeamGrumman-List: New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Dear Listers, I will be installing a new SPAM and virus blocking appliance this evening or tomorrow. The installation will involve some changes in the Matronics DNS MX records, and will impact how incoming email is handled. While I expect these changes to be transparent to all of the List subscribers, things might go differently... ;-) The Lists get bombarded with tons of SPAM messages and viruses each day and fortunately my custom filters have been extremely effective at filtering most of this from redistribution. Its time to move to the next level of technology, however, and this SPAM and Virus filtering appliance seems like an excellent solution. I will post a follow up message later in the week when things have stabilized and I have some filter statistics to share. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:32:23 PM PST US From: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Subject: TeamGrumman-List: RE: New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Hi James, You're righton on all accounts. Looks to be a pretty slick box from a company called Barracuda Networks (http://www.barracudanetworks.com/). Their box is very affordable as are the subscriptions rates for updates - especailly compared to companies like Brightmail. Their low-end box is suppose to be able to handle 1m message per day and 1000 active email users. The nice thing is that there is no per-user charges. I'm definately looking forward to lightening the load on my email server; the SPAM has just gotten out of hand the last few months. Best regards, Matt Dralle >-------------- >--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" > >Good luck Matt. What appliance will you be using? It sounds like separate >hardware from your mail server since you mention "appliance" and thus I >assume all mail is routed through it (thus the modification of MX records) >to the mail server with the appliance filtering out all crud based on >configurable rules and virus definitions. I'd love to know what you're >using and what kind of volume it can handle or just point me at the vendors >web site. > >Jamey > >James Courtney >AA5B N72T & curious software engineer > > >-----Original Message----- >To: dralle@matronics.com >Subject: TeamGrumman-List: New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At >Matronics... > > >--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > >Dear Listers, > >I will be installing a new SPAM and virus blocking appliance this >evening or tomorrow. The installation will involve some changes >in the Matronics DNS MX records, and will impact how incoming >email is handled. While I expect these changes to be transparent >to all of the List subscribers, things might go differently... ;-) > >The Lists get bombarded with tons of SPAM messages and viruses >each day and fortunately my custom filters have been extremely >effective at filtering most of this from redistribution. Its >time to move to the next level of technology, however, and this >SPAM and Virus filtering appliance seems like an excellent >solution. > >I will post a follow up message later in the week when things >have stabilized and I have some filter statistics to share. > >Best regards, > >Matt Dralle >Matronics Email List Admin. >-------------- -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:29 PM PST US From: "James Courtney" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: RE: New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" Clearly this wouldn't be acceptable conversation on GG so this is nice:) If anyone objects to the thread please let me know and Matt and I can take it off line but it's generally interesting stuff for anyone who dabbles in software and networking. Matt, What do you think of the quality of the virus protection and the intelligence of the spam blocking? Does it really catch the right stuff most of the time without too much tweaking? Are the virus definition and spam filters updated automatically and the subscriptions reasonably priced? I work for an ASP with email services and about 20,000 users and adding virus scanning to our mail servers is apparently prohibitively expensive and adds load to the server. We're weighing our options. Jamey -----Original Message----- From: Matt Dralle [mailto:dralle@matronics.com] Subject: RE: New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... Hi James, You're righton on all accounts. Looks to be a pretty slick box from a company called Barracuda Networks (http://www.barracudanetworks.com/). Their box is very affordable as are the subscriptions rates for updates - especailly compared to companies like Brightmail. Their low-end box is suppose to be able to handle 1m message per day and 1000 active email users. The nice thing is that there is no per-user charges. I'm definately looking forward to lightening the load on my email server; the SPAM has just gotten out of hand the last few months. Best regards, Matt Dralle >-------------- >--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" > >Good luck Matt. What appliance will you be using? It sounds like separate >hardware from your mail server since you mention "appliance" and thus I >assume all mail is routed through it (thus the modification of MX records) >to the mail server with the appliance filtering out all crud based on >configurable rules and virus definitions. I'd love to know what you're >using and what kind of volume it can handle or just point me at the vendors >web site. > >Jamey > >James Courtney >AA5B N72T & curious software engineer > > >-----Original Message----- >To: dralle@matronics.com >Subject: TeamGrumman-List: New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At >Matronics... > > >--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > >Dear Listers, > >I will be installing a new SPAM and virus blocking appliance this >evening or tomorrow. The installation will involve some changes >in the Matronics DNS MX records, and will impact how incoming >email is handled. While I expect these changes to be transparent >to all of the List subscribers, things might go differently... ;-) > >The Lists get bombarded with tons of SPAM messages and viruses >each day and fortunately my custom filters have been extremely >effective at filtering most of this from redistribution. Its >time to move to the next level of technology, however, and this >SPAM and Virus filtering appliance seems like an excellent >solution. > >I will post a follow up message later in the week when things >have stabilized and I have some filter statistics to share. > >Best regards, > >Matt Dralle >Matronics Email List Admin. >-------------- -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:19:47 PM PST US From: ThomasTholmes512@aol.com Subject: [QT]TeamGrumman-List: RE: New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... HTML_MESSAGE@matronics.com, MIME_LONG_LINE_QP@matronics.com, NO_REAL_NAME FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS (0.7 points) From: ends.in.numbers.HTML_MESSAGE.BODY:HTML.included.in.message.HTML_10_20.BODY:Message.is.10%to.20@HTML.CASHCASHCASH.Contains.at.least.3.dollar.signs.in.a.row (0.1 points) (1.4 points) (0.0 points) --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: ThomasTholmes512@aol.com TG, what works pretty well on another list server (Aeroncas) is that if the subject is off topic, ie Grummans, we put ### in the subject line and coached everyone as to how to go about setting up a filter to remove/store those messages. Works very well. We tried refining it further by inserting $$$ if you were selling something, but noone bothers, they just use the ###. Tom, who has spent his days sanding, scraping, losing pounds off his Yankee, and now needs to find another top cowl in the worst way. ;-)