---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 09/23/03: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:31 AM - Re: Metal or Alumi Prep (Aucountry@aol.com) 2. 03:08 PM - Re: : Metal or Alumi Prep (Gkb5577@aol.com) 3. 04:47 PM - Re: Re: : Metal or Alumi Prep (Aucountry@aol.com) 4. 05:06 PM - Re: Re: : Metal or Alumi Prep (linn walters) 5. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: : Metal or Alumi Prep (Steven Jackson) 6. 07:29 PM - Sata Jet Plastic or Aluminum Cup? (Steven Jackson) 7. 09:19 PM - Exhaust System Clean Up (Steven Jackson) 8. 11:28 PM - Re: Exhaust System Clean Up (Aucountry@aol.com) 9. 11:30 PM - Re: Re: : Metal or Alumi Prep (Aucountry@aol.com) 10. 11:34 PM - Re: Sata Jet Plastic or Aluminum Cup? (Aucountry@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:31:38 AM PST US From: Aucountry@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Metal or Alumi Prep --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com In a message dated 09/22/03 09:00:50 PM, steven.jackson14@adelphia.net writes: > These may be dumb questions, but (1) do you need a pressure regulator for a > good paint job and (2) what kind of temperatures should I be looking for for > best painting results, and (3) if I get the baffles powder coated, do I do > that before or after I trim the pieces to fit? > > Thanks for the patience, > yes, you need a pressure regulator. I would paint at around 70 degrees if possible. Trim them to fit first. Then get them powder coated. Gary ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:08:38 PM PST US From: Gkb5577@aol.com Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: : Metal or Alumi Prep --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gkb5577@aol.com Steven: Saw your forum note. I have discovered that the expensive degreasers and wax removers are little more than dilute acetone and or MEK (methyl ethyl ketone) both available in WalMarts (paint section). I even had found some NOS mint position lights for $2.00 but they were clear---investigated glass actual 'staining' and found that the process was easy--but the glass had to be CLEANED. Turns out it was acetone with a bit of distilled water ( the bit of water gives some 'sink' for some of the types of debris, vs pure acetone. Hope this helps. Geoff ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:47:35 PM PST US From: Aucountry@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: : Metal or Alumi Prep --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com In a message dated 09/23/03 03:09:27 PM, Gkb5577@aol.com writes: > I have discovered that the expensive degreasers > and wax removers are little more than dilute acetone and or MEK (methyl > ethyl > ketone) both available in WalMarts (paint section).=A0 > Steve, please use only DX330. There is absolutely no MEK or acetone in it. This is the best degreaser you can buy. You can even use it on plexiglass. Gary www.AuCountry.com Home of "Team Grumman" TeamGrumman-List@matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/subscribe ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:39 PM PST US From: linn walters Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: : Metal or Alumi Prep --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: linn walters Aucountry@aol.com wrote: >--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com > > >In a message dated 09/23/03 03:09:27 PM, Gkb5577@aol.com writes: > > > > >>I have discovered that the expensive degreasers >>and wax removers are little more than dilute acetone and or MEK (methyl >>ethyl >>ketone) both available in WalMarts (paint section).=A0 >> >> >> > >Steve, please use only DX330. There is absolutely no MEK or acetone in it. > This is the best degreaser you can buy. You can even use it on plexiglass. > > >Gary >www.AuCountry.com > > Gary, can you let us know why DX330? I've had excellent results with MEK. Doesn't leave any residue. Acetone does, however. Linn ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:55 PM PST US From: "Steven Jackson" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Re: : Metal or Alumi Prep --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steven Jackson" Roger, noted... -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Aucountry@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: : Metal or Alumi Prep --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com In a message dated 09/23/03 03:09:27 PM, Gkb5577@aol.com writes: > I have discovered that the expensive degreasers > and wax removers are little more than dilute acetone and or MEK (methyl > ethyl > ketone) both available in WalMarts (paint section).=A0 > Steve, please use only DX330. There is absolutely no MEK or acetone in it. This is the best degreaser you can buy. You can even use it on plexiglass. Gary www.AuCountry.com Home of "Team Grumman" TeamGrumman-List@matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/subscribe ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:47 PM PST US From: "Steven Jackson" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Sata Jet Plastic or Aluminum Cup? --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steven Jackson" TG, For the Sata Jet users out there, I'm looking at the Sata Jet Mini 3 (since I don't do this for a living and my job is not overly large) and was wondering about the difference in aluminum or plastic cups. Any comments? Also, would it be better to use a cheapo for the primer, and the Sata for the paint, or can the Sata do both? Steven Jackson N1434R L22 Yucca Valley, CA ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:19:15 PM PST US From: "Steven Jackson" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Exhaust System Clean Up --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steven Jackson" TG, Need to clean my exhaust during my project. There's a ton of baked on oil from the engine on the exhaust shroud and tubing. Plus, there's the usual types of soot, etc. on it as well. I figure since its steel, I can use just about anything, but looking for recommendations on the best way to do it. Thanks, Steven Jackson N1434R L22 Yucca Valley, CA ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:28:51 PM PST US From: Aucountry@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Exhaust System Clean Up --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com In a message dated 09/23/03 09:19:32 PM, steven.jackson14@adelphia.net writes: > TG, > > Need to clean my exhaust during my project.=A0 There's a ton of baked on oil > from the engine on the exhaust shroud and tubing.=A0 Plus, there's the usual > types of soot, etc. on it as well.=A0 I figure since its steel, I can use=20just > about anything, but looking for recommendations on the best way to do it. > > aircraft paint stripper works well. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:56 PM PST US From: Aucountry@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: : Metal or Alumi Prep --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com In a message dated 09/23/03 05:07:22 PM, lwalters2@cfl.rr.com writes: > Gary, can you let us know why DX330?=A0 I've had excellent results with > MEK.=A0 Doesn't leave any residue.=A0 Acetone does, however. > Linn > MEK also leaves a residue, MEK also attacks any primers or fillers. DX330 will clean without damaging the type of surface. I also use it to clean the inside of the fuel tank before resealing it. AND... it won;t eat the hell out of your liver like MEK does. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:34:57 PM PST US From: Aucountry@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Sata Jet Plastic or Aluminum Cup? --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com In a message dated 09/23/03 07:30:20 PM, steven.jackson14@adelphia.net writes: > For the Sata Jet users out there, I'm looking at the Sata Jet Mini 3 (since > I don't do this for a living and my job is not overly large) and was > wondering about the difference in aluminum or plastic cups.=A0 Any comments? > > Also, would it be better to use a cheapo for the primer, and the Sata for > the paint, or can the Sata do both? > > I have both cups. I think the plastic is easier to clean. How much easier? like the difference between 9.5 and 10. As for the primer. if you are going to sand the surface after application, it desn't matter too much. If you are going to top coat right after the primer, use a gun that atomizes the paint well and leaves a nice finish on the surface. Every flaw will show through. Even flaws you can't see or feel=20in the primer will be visible in the top coat. Gary