---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 09/28/03: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:26 PM - Cheetah--Tiger (Harry and Barb) 2. 01:48 PM - Re: Cheetah--Tiger (Ron Levy) 3. 02:18 PM - Electrical Question (Steven Jackson) 4. 09:20 PM - Re: Cheetah--Tiger (Aucountry@aol.com) 5. 09:27 PM - Re: Electrical Question (Aucountry@aol.com) 6. 10:27 PM - Re: Electrical Question (Steven Jackson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:26:46 PM PST US From: "Harry and Barb" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Cheetah--Tiger --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Harry and Barb" My cheetah was converted to 180 hp 0360a4k under a STC the center spar was changed to the Tiger spar for the additional 200 lb grosse weight Does this mean I can change the regerestion and data plate to a AA5B Tiger? Harry Wilcox N9840U ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:48:50 PM PST US From: "Ron Levy" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Cheetah--Tiger --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Ron Levy" > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Harry > and Barb > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 7:29 PM > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Harry and Barb" > > > My cheetah was converted to 180 hp 0360a4k under a STC > the center spar was changed to the Tiger spar for the additional > 200 lb grosse weight Does this mean I can change the regerestion > and data plate to a AA5B Tiger? NO! In order to do that, you would have to have another FAA inspection to determine that the aircraft is completely in conformity with the AA-5B type design, and then make any necessary additional alterations (what those might be I don't know, but the FAA will ask the question) to accomplish that. You can do that if you want, but given the time, trouble, and possible expense involved, I can't see why you'd want to. You've got a plane that gives you everything a Tiger would, so why go further? There's no additional gain to be had. That may be why every AA-5A with a Tiger engine and spar I've seen still has the AA-5A designation on the data plate. Ron ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:18:49 PM PST US From: "Steven Jackson" "Grumman-Gang" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Electrical Question --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steven Jackson" Gang/TG, During teardown of the firewall accessories, my A&P questioned the necessity of keeping the small plate (that connected the hobbs, dome light, and clock fuses to the battery) on the firewall, and just re-wiring it so the plate can come off the firewall. I have the O-320 conversion, with my battery located aft, so there is no advantage to the placement of the wires/fuses there that we can see. I don't have the hobbs meter anymore either--although the plane came equipped with one. Would it be legal (with no field approval necessary) to rewire the fuses in line with the wires that connect to the battery cable without having them stop at the plate position, i.e. could the wires just run straight into the cabin with the fuses connected inside or outside of the firewall. Also, can I just forget the wire for the hobbs since I don't have one anymore? The old hobbs wire was still connected to the battery cable, but was cut after the fuse and sealed with electrical tape. My idea is to just have the fuses connect somewhere outside the firewall (for ease of changing them) and running the wires into the firewall with the rest of the wire bundle. Just trying to clean up the firewall a little... Any comments? Steven Jackson '75 AA-1B (O-320) N1434R L22 Yucca Valley, CA ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:20:44 PM PST US From: Aucountry@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cheetah--Tiger --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com In a message dated 09/28/03 01:31:03 PM, harryflys@netzero.net writes: > Does this mean I can change the regerestion and data plate to a AA5B Tiger? > > Harry Wilcox > Do you really want to pay higher taxes and insurance? ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:23 PM PST US From: Aucountry@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Electrical Question --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com In a message dated 09/28/03 02:19:42 PM, steven.jackson14@adelphia.net writes: > I just forget the > wire for the hobbs since I don't have one anymore?=A0 The old hobbs wire was > still connected to the battery cable, but was cut after the fuse and sealed > with electrical tape.=A0 My idea is to just have the fuses connect somewhere > outside the firewall (for ease of changing them) and running the wires into > the firewall with the rest of the wire bundle.=A0 Just trying to clean up=20the > firewall a little... > Steve, the way to go for this, to simplify the wiring, is to wire the cabin and map lights to a circuit breaker on the main bus through the master switch. Locate the switches, mini-toggle switches is what I use, on the instuemtn panel. Check out the picture of the AA1C instruemtn panel i sent to you. =20 I did send a picture didn't I? Then get one of the super clocks with a 5 yr battery. They are even back lighted. gary ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:27:21 PM PST US From: "Steven Jackson" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Electrical Question --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steven Jackson" Gary wrote: Steve, the way to go for this, to simplify the wiring, is to wire the cabin and map lights to a circuit breaker on the main bus through the master switch. Locate the switches, mini-toggle switches is what I use, on the instuemtn panel... gary OK, just so I understand this. I see from the picture that there are added circuit breakers at the bottom of the avionics stack and a switch (avionics master perhaps?) Then, there are two extra switches on the panel between the avionics and the instruments. So the map light is one of these switches and its controlled by the master? I think I can swing that. I'll have to add circuit breakers for the Horizon tach and the EDM anyway right? Steve