TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive

Mon 10/06/03


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 06:35 AM - Re: Engine Mount Question (FLYaDIVE@aol.com)
     2. 08:06 AM - Firewall Sealant ()
     3. 09:50 AM - Re: LASIK (Aucountry@aol.com)
     4. 10:12 AM - Re: LASIK (James Courtney)
     5. 12:10 PM - Tiger pre-purchase inspection help (Davidson, Michael)
     6. 06:02 PM - Re: LASIK (Geoffrey Hickey)
     7. 06:22 PM - Re: LASIK...NO Its about gaskets (FLYaDIVE@aol.com)
     8. 09:19 PM - Topics (Bradley Kidder)
     9. 10:12 PM - Engine Mount Bracket Sealant Job (Steven Jackson)
    10. 10:35 PM - Re: Engine Mount Bracket Sealant Job (Gil Alexander)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:35:12 AM PST US
    From: FLYaDIVE@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Engine Mount Question
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com In a message dated 10/6/03 12:45:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, steven.jackson14@adelphia.net writes: > Tomorrow, I was planning on putting the sealant around the brackets that fit > through the firewall, where the engine mount bolts on. My A&P and I were > talking about whether or not to paint first, then put the sealant on, or to > seal them, and then mask and paint. > > Any comments? > > Steven Jackson > N1434R > L22 > Yucca Valley, CA ================= Steven: I guess you are going to use High Temperature RTV for the sealant? My first concern will be to lessen the chance of corrosion. To do that the metal should be cleaned, then painted, and then sealed with the RTV. RTV does stick very well to paint so that will also keep out the moisture. Barry "Chop'd Liver"


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    Time: 08:06:18 AM PST US
    From: <315@cox.net>
    Subject: Firewall Sealant
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: <315@cox.net> Team, You might want to look into a sealant now sold in a caulk tube at Home Depot in their paint supply area. It is for sealing fireplace chimneys, etc. It is a high temperature (fire proof) intumescent caulk. Intumescent meaning it expands. When subjected to high heat it swells to fill any voids and provide additional sealing. In our experimental Pulsar builders group we have a Boeing Rocket Engineer that was familiar with the product and recommended it. At that time it was only available in large quantitiies but recently I found it at Home Depot. If you are interested I will look at the tube next time I'm at the hanger and get the maker from the label. Ned ----- Original Message ----- From: <FLYaDIVE@aol.com> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Engine Mount Question > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com > > In a message dated 10/6/03 12:45:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > steven.jackson14@adelphia.net writes: > > > Tomorrow, I was planning on putting the sealant around the brackets that fit > > through the firewall, where the engine mount bolts on. My A&P and I were > > talking about whether or not to paint first, then put the sealant on, or to > > seal them, and then mask and paint. > > > > Any comments? > > > > Steven Jackson > > N1434R > > L22 > > Yucca Valley, CA > ================= > Steven: > > I guess you are going to use High Temperature RTV for the sealant? > My first concern will be to lessen the chance of corrosion. To do that the > metal should be cleaned, then painted, and then sealed with the RTV. RTV does > stick very well to paint so that will also keep out the moisture. > > Barry > "Chop'd Liver" > >


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    Time: 09:50:15 AM PST US
    From: Aucountry@aol.com
    Subject: Re: LASIK
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com In a message dated 10/05/03 10:44:10 PM, jamey@jamescourtney.net writes: > I replaced the rubber bit and now get > the full range of motion from the mixture (before it wouldn't lean all the > way and thus the failure to fully stop the engine at shut down). > > a simple fix is always the best. I'm glad it worked out OK. Sometimes I'll put safety wire around it to make sure it doesn't slip. Gary <HTML><FONT FACEarial,helvetica><FONT COLOR"#000000" FACE"Comic San= s MS" LANG"0" SIZE"2"><BR> In a message dated 10/05/03 10:44:10 PM, jamey@jamescourtney.net writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE CITE STYLE"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;=20= MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE"CITE"></FONT><FONT COLOR"#0= 00000" FACE"Comic Sans MS" LANG"0" SIZE"2">I replaced the rubber bi= t and now get<BR> the full range of motion from the mixture (before it wouldn't lean all the<B= R> way and thus the failure to fully stop the engine at shut down).<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR"#000000" FACE"Comic Sans MS" LANG"0= " SIZE"2"><BR> <BR> a simple fix is always the best.&nbsp; I'm glad it worked out OK.&nbsp; So= metimes I'll put safety wire around it to make sure it doesn't slip.<BR> <BR> Gary</FONT><FONT COLOR"#000000" FACE"Comic Sans MS" LANG"0" SIZE= "2"></FONT></HTML>


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    Time: 10:12:52 AM PST US
    From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net>
    Subject: LASIK
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> True. I'll add checking that bit to my pre-flight. Jamey -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Aucountry@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: LASIK --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com In a message dated 10/05/03 10:44:10 PM, jamey@jamescourtney.net writes: > I replaced the rubber bit and now get > the full range of motion from the mixture (before it wouldn't lean all the > way and thus the failure to fully stop the engine at shut down). > > a simple fix is always the best. I'm glad it worked out OK. Sometimes I'll put safety wire around it to make sure it doesn't slip. Gary <HTML><FONT FACEarial,helvetica><FONT COLOR"#000000" FACE"Comic San= s MS" LANG"0" SIZE"2"><BR> In a message dated 10/05/03 10:44:10 PM, jamey@jamescourtney.net writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE CITE STYLE"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;=20= MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" TYPE"CITE"></FONT><FONT COLOR"#0= 00000" FACE"Comic Sans MS" LANG"0" SIZE"2">I replaced the rubber bi= t and now get<BR> the full range of motion from the mixture (before it wouldn't lean all the<B= R> way and thus the failure to fully stop the engine at shut down).<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR"#000000" FACE"Comic Sans MS" LANG"0= " SIZE"2"><BR> <BR> a simple fix is always the best.&nbsp; I'm glad it worked out OK.&nbsp; So= metimes I'll put safety wire around it to make sure it doesn't slip.<BR> <BR> Gary</FONT><FONT COLOR"#000000" FACE"Comic Sans MS" LANG"0" SIZE= "2"></FONT></HTML>


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    Time: 12:10:59 PM PST US
    From: "Davidson, Michael" <mwd@bek.com>
    Subject: Tiger pre-purchase inspection help
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Davidson, Michael" <mwd@bek.com> My partner and I hope to be joining the ranks of Grumman owners within the next couple of weeks. If anyone could supply a check list for a Tiger pre-purchase inspection, or a list that is typically used during the annual, it would be most appreciated. Also, we need a recommendation for an experienced Grumman A&P in the Orlando, FL or Jacksonville, FL areas. Thanks, Mike Davidson E-Mail: mwd@bek.com


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    Time: 06:02:18 PM PST US
    From: Geoffrey Hickey <ardri@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: LASIK
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Geoffrey Hickey <ardri@comcast.net> Aucountry@aol.com wrote: >>I replaced the rubber bit and now get >>the full range of motion from the mixture (before it wouldn't lean all the >>way and thus the failure to fully stop the engine at shut down). >> >> >> >> > >a simple fix is always the best. I'm glad it worked out OK. Sometimes >I'll put safety wire around it to make sure it doesn't slip. > >Gary > > > For a second there I thought you were still talking about your eye. - Geoff


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    Time: 06:22:01 PM PST US
    From: FLYaDIVE@aol.com
    Subject: Re: LASIK...NO Its about gaskets
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com In a message dated 10/6/03 9:02:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ardri@comcast.net writes: > For a second there I thought you were still talking about your eye. > > - Geoff =================== EXACTLY Geoff..... When the SUBJECT changes CHANGE THE SUBJECT TITLE. Barry "Chop'd Liver"


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    Time: 09:19:41 PM PST US
    From: Bradley Kidder <sparksnmagic@usa.net>
    Subject: Topics
    UPPERCASE_25_50 UPPERCASE_25_50 (1.2 points) message body is 25-50% uppercase --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Bradley Kidder <sparksnmagic@usa.net> Sure wish you guys would get the topic lines correct. = ><((((=BA>`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7...=B8><((((=BA> =B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8. , . .=B7=B4=AF`=B7..= ><((((=BA>`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7...=B8><((((=BA> Bradley Kidder N188FW AA-1 #124 "Hawg One" NTSB / EAA / AOPA / AYA <html> <body> Sure wish you guys would get the topic lines correct.<br><br> <x-sigsep><p></x-sigsep> <font face"Comic Sans MS">= <br> &gt;&lt;((((=BA&gt;`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7...=B8&gt;&lt;= ((((=BA&gt; <br> =B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8. , . .=B7=B4=AF`=B7.. &gt;&lt;((((=BA&gt;`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7...=B8&gt;&lt;= ((((=BA&gt; <br> </font><font face"Comic Sans MS" size5>Bradley Kidder</font><font face"Comic Sans MS"> <br> N188FW AA-1 #124 &quot;Hawg One&quot; <br> NTSB / EAA / AOPA / AYA </font></body> </html>


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    Time: 10:12:22 PM PST US
    From: "Steven Jackson" <steven.jackson14@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Engine Mount Bracket Sealant Job
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steven Jackson" <steven.jackson14@adelphia.net> Well, I went ahead today with the sealant. Our plan is to mask the sealant with grease for the paint job, then take the grease off. We used PRC, which my A&P had on hand. He used to use it on the airliners down at Palm Springs for windows, fuel tanks, etc. He said its oil proof, fuel proof, and once cured, has really good longevity. I taped off around the brackets and then pulled the tape after applying the stuff. Looks pretty sharp. Steven Jackson N1434R L22 Yucca Valley, CA


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    Time: 10:35:58 PM PST US
    From: Gil Alexander <gilalex@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Engine Mount Bracket Sealant Job
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gil Alexander <gilalex@earthlink.net> Steve ... why not just paint over the sealant? PRC is paintable.... gil in Tucson At 10:11 PM 10/6/2003 -0700, you wrote: >--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steven Jackson" ><steven.jackson14@adelphia.net> > >Well, I went ahead today with the sealant. Our plan is to mask the sealant >with grease for the paint job, then take the grease off. We used PRC, which >my A&P had on hand. He used to use it on the airliners down at Palm Springs >for windows, fuel tanks, etc. He said its oil proof, fuel proof, and once >cured, has really good longevity. I taped off around the brackets and then >pulled the tape after applying the stuff. Looks pretty sharp. > >Steven Jackson >N1434R >L22 >Yucca Valley, CA > > 77 Tiger, N28478, at 57AZ <html> <font size=3>Steve ... why not just paint over the sealant?&nbsp; <br> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; PRC is paintable....&nbsp; <br> <br> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; gil in Tucson<br> <br> At 10:11 PM 10/6/2003 -0700, you wrote:<br> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>--&gt; TeamGrumman-List message posted by: &quot;Steven Jackson&quot; &lt;steven.jackson14@adelphia.net&gt;<br> <br> Well, I went ahead today with the sealant.&nbsp; Our plan is to mask the sealant<br> with grease for the paint job, then take the grease off.&nbsp; We used PRC, which<br> my A&amp;P had on hand.&nbsp; He used to use it on the airliners down at Palm Springs<br> for windows, fuel tanks, etc.&nbsp; He said its oil proof, fuel proof, and once<br> cured, has really good longevity.&nbsp; I taped off around the brackets and then<br> pulled the tape after applying the stuff.&nbsp; Looks pretty sharp.<br> <br> Steven Jackson<br> N1434R<br> L22<br> Yucca Valley, CA<br> <br> <br> - The TeamGrumman-List Email Forum -<br> <a href="http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report" eudora="autourl">http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report</a><br> <a href="http://www.matronics.com/subscription" eudora="autourl">http://www.matronics.com/subscription</a><br> <a href="http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm" eudora="autourl">http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm</a><br> <a href="http://www.matronics.com/search" eudora="autourl">http://www.matronics.com/search</a><br> <a href="http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list" eudora="autourl">http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list</a><br> <a href="http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list" eudora="autourl">http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list</a><br> <a href="http://www.matronics.com/archives" eudora="autourl">http://www.matronics.com/archives</a><br> <a href="http://www.matronics.com/photoshare" eudora="autourl">http://www.matronics.com/photoshare</a><br> <a href="http://www.matronics.com/teamgrumman-list" eudora="autourl">http://www.matronics.com/teamgrumman-list</a><br> <a href="http://www.matronics.com/emaillists" eudora="autourl">http://www.matronics.com/emaillists</a><br> <a href="http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report" eudora="autourl">http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report</a><br> <x-sigsep><p></x-sigsep> <i>77 Tiger,&nbsp; N28478, at 57AZ </font></i></html>




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