---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/06/03: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:35 AM - Re: Engine Mount Question (FLYaDIVE@aol.com) 2. 08:06 AM - Firewall Sealant () 3. 09:50 AM - Re: LASIK (Aucountry@aol.com) 4. 10:12 AM - Re: LASIK (James Courtney) 5. 12:10 PM - Tiger pre-purchase inspection help (Davidson, Michael) 6. 06:02 PM - Re: LASIK (Geoffrey Hickey) 7. 06:22 PM - Re: LASIK...NO Its about gaskets (FLYaDIVE@aol.com) 8. 09:19 PM - Topics (Bradley Kidder) 9. 10:12 PM - Engine Mount Bracket Sealant Job (Steven Jackson) 10. 10:35 PM - Re: Engine Mount Bracket Sealant Job (Gil Alexander) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:12 AM PST US From: FLYaDIVE@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Engine Mount Question --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com In a message dated 10/6/03 12:45:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, steven.jackson14@adelphia.net writes: > Tomorrow, I was planning on putting the sealant around the brackets that fit > through the firewall, where the engine mount bolts on. My A&P and I were > talking about whether or not to paint first, then put the sealant on, or to > seal them, and then mask and paint. > > Any comments? > > Steven Jackson > N1434R > L22 > Yucca Valley, CA ================= Steven: I guess you are going to use High Temperature RTV for the sealant? My first concern will be to lessen the chance of corrosion. To do that the metal should be cleaned, then painted, and then sealed with the RTV. RTV does stick very well to paint so that will also keep out the moisture. Barry "Chop'd Liver" ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:06:18 AM PST US From: <315@cox.net> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Firewall Sealant --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: <315@cox.net> Team, You might want to look into a sealant now sold in a caulk tube at Home Depot in their paint supply area. It is for sealing fireplace chimneys, etc. It is a high temperature (fire proof) intumescent caulk. Intumescent meaning it expands. When subjected to high heat it swells to fill any voids and provide additional sealing. In our experimental Pulsar builders group we have a Boeing Rocket Engineer that was familiar with the product and recommended it. At that time it was only available in large quantitiies but recently I found it at Home Depot. If you are interested I will look at the tube next time I'm at the hanger and get the maker from the label. Ned ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Engine Mount Question > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com > > In a message dated 10/6/03 12:45:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > steven.jackson14@adelphia.net writes: > > > Tomorrow, I was planning on putting the sealant around the brackets that fit > > through the firewall, where the engine mount bolts on. My A&P and I were > > talking about whether or not to paint first, then put the sealant on, or to > > seal them, and then mask and paint. > > > > Any comments? > > > > Steven Jackson > > N1434R > > L22 > > Yucca Valley, CA > ================= > Steven: > > I guess you are going to use High Temperature RTV for the sealant? > My first concern will be to lessen the chance of corrosion. To do that the > metal should be cleaned, then painted, and then sealed with the RTV. RTV does > stick very well to paint so that will also keep out the moisture. > > Barry > "Chop'd Liver" > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:50:15 AM PST US From: Aucountry@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: LASIK --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com In a message dated 10/05/03 10:44:10 PM, jamey@jamescourtney.net writes: > I replaced the rubber bit and now get > the full range of motion from the mixture (before it wouldn't lean all the > way and thus the failure to fully stop the engine at shut down). > > a simple fix is always the best. I'm glad it worked out OK. Sometimes I'll put safety wire around it to make sure it doesn't slip. Gary
In a message dated 10/05/03 10:44:10 PM, jamey@jamescourtney.net writes:


I replaced the rubber bi= t and now get
the full range of motion from the mixture (before it wouldn't lean all the way and thus the failure to fully stop the engine at shut down).



a simple fix is always the best.  I'm glad it worked out OK.  So= metimes I'll put safety wire around it to make sure it doesn't slip.

Gary ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:52 AM PST US From: "James Courtney" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: LASIK --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" True. I'll add checking that bit to my pre-flight. Jamey -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Aucountry@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: LASIK --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com In a message dated 10/05/03 10:44:10 PM, jamey@jamescourtney.net writes: > I replaced the rubber bit and now get > the full range of motion from the mixture (before it wouldn't lean all the > way and thus the failure to fully stop the engine at shut down). > > a simple fix is always the best. I'm glad it worked out OK. Sometimes I'll put safety wire around it to make sure it doesn't slip. Gary
In a message dated 10/05/03 10:44:10 PM, jamey@jamescourtney.net writes:


I replaced the rubber bi= t and now get
the full range of motion from the mixture (before it wouldn't lean all the way and thus the failure to fully stop the engine at shut down).



a simple fix is always the best.  I'm glad it worked out OK.  So= metimes I'll put safety wire around it to make sure it doesn't slip.

Gary ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:10:59 PM PST US From: "Davidson, Michael" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger pre-purchase inspection help --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Davidson, Michael" My partner and I hope to be joining the ranks of Grumman owners within the next couple of weeks. If anyone could supply a check list for a Tiger pre-purchase inspection, or a list that is typically used during the annual, it would be most appreciated. Also, we need a recommendation for an experienced Grumman A&P in the Orlando, FL or Jacksonville, FL areas. Thanks, Mike Davidson E-Mail: mwd@bek.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:18 PM PST US From: Geoffrey Hickey Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: LASIK --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Geoffrey Hickey Aucountry@aol.com wrote: >>I replaced the rubber bit and now get >>the full range of motion from the mixture (before it wouldn't lean all the >>way and thus the failure to fully stop the engine at shut down). >> >> >> >> > >a simple fix is always the best. I'm glad it worked out OK. Sometimes >I'll put safety wire around it to make sure it doesn't slip. > >Gary > > > For a second there I thought you were still talking about your eye. - Geoff ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:01 PM PST US From: FLYaDIVE@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: LASIK...NO Its about gaskets --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com In a message dated 10/6/03 9:02:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ardri@comcast.net writes: > For a second there I thought you were still talking about your eye. > > - Geoff =================== EXACTLY Geoff..... When the SUBJECT changes CHANGE THE SUBJECT TITLE. Barry "Chop'd Liver" ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:19:41 PM PST US From: Bradley Kidder Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Topics UPPERCASE_25_50 UPPERCASE_25_50 (1.2 points) message body is 25-50% uppercase --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Bradley Kidder Sure wish you guys would get the topic lines correct. = ><((((=BA>`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7...=B8><((((=BA> =B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8. , . .=B7=B4=AF`=B7..= ><((((=BA>`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7...=B8><((((=BA> Bradley Kidder N188FW AA-1 #124 "Hawg One" NTSB / EAA / AOPA / AYA Sure wish you guys would get the topic lines correct.

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Bradley Kidder
N188FW AA-1 #124 "Hawg One"
NTSB / EAA / AOPA / AYA ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:22 PM PST US From: "Steven Jackson" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Engine Mount Bracket Sealant Job --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steven Jackson" Well, I went ahead today with the sealant. Our plan is to mask the sealant with grease for the paint job, then take the grease off. We used PRC, which my A&P had on hand. He used to use it on the airliners down at Palm Springs for windows, fuel tanks, etc. He said its oil proof, fuel proof, and once cured, has really good longevity. I taped off around the brackets and then pulled the tape after applying the stuff. Looks pretty sharp. Steven Jackson N1434R L22 Yucca Valley, CA ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:35:58 PM PST US From: Gil Alexander Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Engine Mount Bracket Sealant Job --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gil Alexander Steve ... why not just paint over the sealant? PRC is paintable.... gil in Tucson At 10:11 PM 10/6/2003 -0700, you wrote: >--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steven Jackson" > > >Well, I went ahead today with the sealant. Our plan is to mask the sealant >with grease for the paint job, then take the grease off. We used PRC, which >my A&P had on hand. He used to use it on the airliners down at Palm Springs >for windows, fuel tanks, etc. He said its oil proof, fuel proof, and once >cured, has really good longevity. I taped off around the brackets and then >pulled the tape after applying the stuff. Looks pretty sharp. > >Steven Jackson >N1434R >L22 >Yucca Valley, CA > > 77 Tiger, N28478, at 57AZ Steve ... why not just paint over the sealant? 

      PRC is paintable.... 

                  gil in Tucson

At 10:11 PM 10/6/2003 -0700, you wrote:

--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steven Jackson" <steven.jackson14@adelphia.net>

Well, I went ahead today with the sealant.  Our plan is to mask the sealant
with grease for the paint job, then take the grease off.  We used PRC, which
my A&P had on hand.  He used to use it on the airliners down at Palm Springs
for windows, fuel tanks, etc.  He said its oil proof, fuel proof, and once
cured, has really good longevity.  I taped off around the brackets and then
pulled the tape after applying the stuff.  Looks pretty sharp.

Steven Jackson
N1434R
L22
Yucca Valley, CA


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