---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 10/16/03: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:27 AM - Re: Tiger, LoPresti nose bowl update (bob milligan) 2. 08:37 AM - Re: Tiger, LoPresti nose bowl update (Aucountry@aol.com) 3. 11:01 AM - Re: Wheel Pants (ThomasTholmes512@aol.com) 4. 12:36 PM - Re: Tiger, LoPresti nose bowl update (flyv35b) 5. 12:39 PM - Power Flow exhaust (Phil) 6. 03:11 PM - Re: Tiger, LoPresti nose bowl update (ThomasTholmes512@aol.com) 7. 04:59 PM - Re: Tiger, LoPresti nose bowl update (James Courtney) 8. 05:21 PM - Re: Tiger, LoPresti nose bowl update (ThomasTholmes512@aol.com) 9. 05:50 PM - Re: Front wheel cotter pin... (ThomasTholmes512@aol.com) 10. 06:07 PM - Tiger Owners Buying Bonanzas (Steven Jackson) 11. 06:21 PM - Re: Tiger Owners Buying Bonanzas (Aucountry@aol.com) 12. 06:24 PM - Re: Power Flow exhaust (Aucountry@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger, LoPresti nose bowl update From: bob milligan --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: bob milligan on 10/15/03 11:12 PM, Aucountry@aol.com at Aucountry@aol.com wrote: > > Fred Geller. Bring your Tiger back. I know how to get theose temps down. > > Gary > Hi Gary! I thought Geller sold his Tiger and bought a Bonanza?? Bob Milligan ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:25 AM PST US From: Aucountry@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger, LoPresti nose bowl update --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com In a message dated 10/16/03 08:28:18 AM, flyer.bob@verizon.net writes: > Hi Gary! > > I thought Geller sold his Tiger and bought a Bonanza?? > > Bob Milligan > > OK, I hadn't heard. Seems like all the Tiger owners are buying Bonanzas. That's good. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:15 AM PST US From: ThomasTholmes512@aol.com Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Wheel Pants --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: ThomasTholmes512@aol.com Yes, I should have included it on the original, but I had it filed under Ken Blackman instead of Airmods. airmods@everett.net 425-334-3030 They have had every piece I've looked for so far with the exception of the cowl latches that I got NOS from Bob Steward. Tom ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:58 PM PST US From: "flyv35b" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger, LoPresti nose bowl update --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" I have three customers who have done that and one that just called me the other day and said he was going to take delivery of a new SR22 Cirrus (that makes two previous Tiger owners that I know of). Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger, LoPresti nose bowl update > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com > > > In a message dated 10/16/03 08:28:18 AM, flyer.bob@verizon.net writes: > > > > Hi Gary! > > > > I thought Geller sold his Tiger and bought a Bonanza?? > > > > Bob Milligan > > > > > > OK, I hadn't heard. Seems like all the Tiger owners are buying Bonanzas. > That's good. > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:39:52 PM PST US From: "Phil" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Power Flow exhaust --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Phil" I asked this question a week or so ago and got no response so I thought I'd try again. I have a 1979 tiger and am considering installing the power flow exhaust system. I'm particularily interested in whether anyone has seen the more even CHT's and EGT's that they claim occur, but any comments would be appreciated. Thanks Phil ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:21 PM PST US From: ThomasTholmes512@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger, LoPresti nose bowl update --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: ThomasTholmes512@aol.com I've steered a couple of folks towards the Tiger vs the Cirrus/Bonanza/210 lately. Tom ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:10 PM PST US From: "James Courtney" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger, LoPresti nose bowl update --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" I like my Tiger as much as the next guy but it's kind of apples and oranges isn't it? Cirrus/Bonanza/210 are all high performance, complex aircraft with generally greater capabilities and accordingly higher price-tags and operating expenses than the Grummans. The appeal of the Tiger is that it is a practical, very fun, very reliable and simple small airplane to operate for a cost similar to that of a C172 or Piper PA-28. The Cirrus is a notch up the ladder in performance and price and the Bonanza and 210 certainly that too. I could see myself or another Grumman owner considering stepping up at some point if their budget and needs made it an option but it seems odd to be choosing between the two. Jamey AA5B N72T @ KSQL -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ThomasTholmes512@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger, LoPresti nose bowl update --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: ThomasTholmes512@aol.com I've steered a couple of folks towards the Tiger vs the Cirrus/Bonanza/210 lately. Tom ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:32 PM PST US From: ThomasTholmes512@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger, LoPresti nose bowl update --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: ThomasTholmes512@aol.com Jamey, It's a matter of mission I believe. Two of these folks fly almost every day to manage their businesses. Couple hundred miles, each way max. The difference in time with the Tiger compared to any of the others is minuscule, while the cost of an annual will be at least two to one and the going price for new/newish ones varies by as much as $200K. You have to have a really big ego need to stand that kind of hit! ;-) Of course I fly a 150hp Yankee and an Aeronca! Tom ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:51 PM PST US From: ThomasTholmes512@aol.com Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Front wheel cotter pin... --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: ThomasTholmes512@aol.com I don't know about you, but I bought a $2 inspection mirror and put it in the pocket w/my fuel sampler. ;-) The test I use for this kind of stuff is reading back the NTSB report w/my name inserted in it. ;-) Tom ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:07:13 PM PST US From: "Steven Jackson" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger Owners Buying Bonanzas --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steven Jackson" Is that a sarcastic "good" or an actual "good"? OK, I hadn't heard. Seems like all the Tiger owners are buying Bonanzas. That's good. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:21:05 PM PST US From: Aucountry@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger Owners Buying Bonanzas --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com In a message dated 10/16/03 06:12:30 PM, steven.jackson14@adelphia.net writes: > > Is that a sarcastic "good" or an actual "good"? > Actual, Tigers are getting back on the market instead of being horded. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:24:55 PM PST US From: Aucountry@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Power Flow exhaust --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com In a message dated 10/16/03 12:40:25 PM, Phil@ReliantAir.com writes: > I asked this question a week or so ago and got no response so I thought I'd > try again.=A0 I have a 1979 tiger and am considering installing the power=20flow > exhaust system.=A0 > Phil, I would recommend the PowerFlow. It does make more power lower in the rpm range. As for mixture distribution and temps, you'll need fuel injection. Gary