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1. 03:30 AM - Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/12/04 (Don D. Rogers)
2. 06:59 AM - Re: Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/12/04 (flyv35b)
3. 07:32 AM - Re: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners (flyv35b)
4. 07:54 AM - Re: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners (Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D.)
5. 08:20 AM - Re: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners (Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D.)
6. 09:30 AM - Re: Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/12/04 (TeamGrumman@aol.com)
7. 09:46 AM - Re: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners (Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D.)
8. 09:53 AM - Re: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners (TeamGrumman@aol.com)
9. 10:02 AM - Re: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners (Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D.)
10. 10:10 AM - Re: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners (Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D.)
11. 11:10 AM - Powerflow exhaust and empty weight (Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D.)
12. 12:25 PM - Re: Powerflow exhaust and empty weight (Rick Pollack)
13. 01:28 PM - Re: Powerflow exhaust and empty weight (Gil Alexander)
14. 03:42 PM - Re: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners (Walt Beaulieu)
15. 04:27 PM - Re: Powerflow exhaust and empty weight (Geoffrey Hickey)
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Don D. Rogers" <dondrogers@yahoo.com>
143 knots in a HP Cheetah...I guess I need help to get that..I am 119 Knots
at best. Average on my 430 over the past 30,000 miles or so is 108.57 Any
help would be helpful.. dondrogers@yahoo.com
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Total Messages Posted Thu 02/12/04: 3
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1. 02:53 PM - Cheetah to Tiger convertz (Bruce Smith)
2. 03:27 PM - Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners (Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D.)
3. 08:24 PM - Re: Cheetah to Tiger convertz (TeamGrumman@aol.com)
________________________________ Message 1
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Time: 02:53:58 PM PST US
From: Bruce Smith <res02p3h@verizon.net>
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Cheetah to Tiger convertz
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Bruce Smith <res02p3h@verizon.net>
Gary,
There's a lot of chatter about the Cheetah to Tigah conversions on the
GG. As I recall, you're Cheetah was a 160 (or so) hp bird, and didn't
you get 140 kts+??
Bruce Smith
________________________________ Message 2
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Time: 03:27:56 PM PST US
From: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D." <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D."
<drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
Dear AG-5B owners. I am currently redoing my panel for my 1992 tiger to
reflect
a more modern design. The panel will be powder coated and silk-screened. I
can
do a panel for your aircraft and make modifications to instrument
placements.
I have paid for the CADD transfer of our panel and can custom make a panel
for
your aircraft. I am trying to offset the setup costs for the panel layout.
Please call at 480-510-6534. I have included a jpeg drawing of the panel to
view.
Thanks
Daniel
N142B
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 08:24:03 PM PST US
From: TeamGrumman@aol.com
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cheetah to Tiger convertz
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 02/12/04 02:54:51 PM, res02p3h@verizon.net writes:
> There's a lot of chatter about the Cheetah to Tigah conversions on the
> GG. As I recall, you're Cheetah was a 160 (or so) hp bird, and didn't
> you get 140 kts+??
>
YUP! but, what's the point in saying anything on GG? My goal is to get
155+ out of a Tiger.
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
I think Gary is talking about 155 kts, not MPH. He is already faster than
143kts as I recall. (We are talking about a standard Tiger here, right
Gary?)
What are you referring to? A HC engine Cheetah? You should be able to get
130 kts if that is the case.
Cliff A&P/IA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don D. Rogers" <dondrogers@yahoo.com>
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: RE: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/12/04
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Don D. Rogers"
<dondrogers@yahoo.com>
>
> 143 knots in a HP Cheetah...I guess I need help to get that..I am 119
Knots
> at best. Average on my 430 over the past 30,000 miles or so is 108.57 Any
> help would be helpful.. dondrogers@yahoo.com
>
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> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 02:53 PM - Cheetah to Tiger convertz (Bruce Smith)
> 2. 03:27 PM - Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners (Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D.)
> 3. 08:24 PM - Re: Cheetah to Tiger convertz (TeamGrumman@aol.com)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:53:58 PM PST US
> From: Bruce Smith <res02p3h@verizon.net>
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Cheetah to Tiger convertz
>
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Bruce Smith <res02p3h@verizon.net>
>
> Gary,
>
> There's a lot of chatter about the Cheetah to Tigah conversions on the
> GG. As I recall, you're Cheetah was a 160 (or so) hp bird, and didn't
> you get 140 kts+??
>
> Bruce Smith
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:27:56 PM PST US
> From: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D." <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners
>
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D."
> <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Dear AG-5B owners. I am currently redoing my panel for my 1992 tiger to
> reflect
> a more modern design. The panel will be powder coated and silk-screened. I
> can
> do a panel for your aircraft and make modifications to instrument
> placements.
> I have paid for the CADD transfer of our panel and can custom make a panel
> for
> your aircraft. I am trying to offset the setup costs for the panel layout.
> Please call at 480-510-6534. I have included a jpeg drawing of the panel
to
> view.
>
> Thanks
> Daniel
> N142B
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:24:03 PM PST US
> From: TeamGrumman@aol.com
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cheetah to Tiger convertz
>
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 02/12/04 02:54:51 PM, res02p3h@verizon.net writes:
>
>
> > There's a lot of chatter about the Cheetah to Tigah conversions on the
> > GG. As I recall, you're Cheetah was a 160 (or so) hp bird, and didn't
> > you get 140 kts+??
> >
>
> YUP! but, what's the point in saying anything on GG? My goal is to get
> 155+ out of a Tiger.
>
>
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
What happened to the drawing?
Cliff A&P/IA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D." <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D."
<drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Dear AG-5B owners. I am currently redoing my panel for my 1992 tiger to
reflect a more modern design. The panel will be powder coated and
silk-screened. I can do a panel for your aircraft and make modifications to
instrument placements. I have paid for the CADD transfer of our panel and
can custom make a panel for your aircraft. I am trying to offset the setup
costs for the panel layout. Please call at 480-510-6534. I have included a
jpeg drawing of the panel to view.
>
> Thanks
> Daniel
> N142B
>
>
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D." <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
It should of sent with the message but here it is.
Thanks
Daniel
----- Original Message -----
From: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b"
<flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
>
> What happened to the drawing?
>
> Cliff A&P/IA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D." <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners
>
>
> > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D."
> <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
> >
> > Dear AG-5B owners. I am currently redoing my panel for my 1992 tiger to
> reflect a more modern design. The panel will be powder coated and
> silk-screened. I can do a panel for your aircraft and make modifications
to
> instrument placements. I have paid for the CADD transfer of our panel and
> can custom make a panel for your aircraft. I am trying to offset the setup
> costs for the panel layout. Please call at 480-510-6534. I have included a
> jpeg drawing of the panel to view.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Daniel
> > N142B
> >
> >
>
>
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D." <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b"
<flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
>
> What happened to the drawing?
>
> Cliff A&P/IA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D." <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners
>
>
> > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D."
> <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
> >
> > Dear AG-5B owners. I am currently redoing my panel for my 1992 tiger to
> reflect a more modern design. The panel will be powder coated and
> silk-screened. I can do a panel for your aircraft and make modifications
to
> instrument placements. I have paid for the CADD transfer of our panel and
> can custom make a panel for your aircraft. I am trying to offset the setup
> costs for the panel layout. Please call at 480-510-6534. I have included a
> jpeg drawing of the panel to view.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Daniel
> > N142B
> >
> >
>
>
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 02/13/04 07:00:02 AM, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com writes:
> I think Gary is talking about 155 kts, not MPH.=A0 He is already faster than
> 143kts as I recall.=A0 (We are talking about a standard Tiger here, right
> Gary?)
>
> What are you referring to?=A0 A HC engine Cheetah?=A0 You should be able to get
> 130 kts if that is the case.
>
> Cliff=A0 A&P/IA
>
I am getting about 150 knots true on a rough Tiger with my new cowling.
When I get my own Tiger, (say, anyone want a very very clean 1999 Chevy Blazer,
white, gray interior, 96K miles, 19/23 mpg, it has every option available in
1999 except for leather seats and a sun roof. I'm asking Bluebook, $7800.=20
As
soon as it's gone, I'm getting a plane.) and I'm going to put my cowling on
it and do all the other tricks I did to my Cheetah. I'd like to see
consistent 155 knots out of a Tiger.
Cliff, if you'll recall, I had a Cheetah that trued at 140 knots. HC
engine.
I think 155 knots is within reach for a light Tiger. Peter Otten claimed
149 with just the 200hp. I can get 205 from a parallel valve O360. Now,=20if
the MT folks will just release the two-blade CS prop to the States for the
O360, .....
Gary
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D." <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D." <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D."
<drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
> To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners
>
>
> > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b"
> <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
> >
> > What happened to the drawing?
> >
> > Cliff A&P/IA
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D." <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
> > To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners
> >
> >
> > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D."
> > <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
> > >
> > > Dear AG-5B owners. I am currently redoing my panel for my 1992 tiger
to
> > reflect a more modern design. The panel will be powder coated and
> > silk-screened. I can do a panel for your aircraft and make modifications
> to
> > instrument placements. I have paid for the CADD transfer of our panel
and
> > can custom make a panel for your aircraft. I am trying to offset the
setup
> > costs for the panel layout. Please call at 480-510-6534. I have included
a
> > jpeg drawing of the panel to view.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Daniel
> > > N142B
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
You are going to have to send attachments separately to each person that
wants one. The server looks at attachments as virus'.
I'll take one.
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D." <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
Here is the drawing of the panel or call me in my office for any questions.
480-831-2445.
Thanks
Daniel
----- Original Message -----
From: <TeamGrumman@aol.com>
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
>
> You are going to have to send attachments separately to each person that
> wants one. The server looks at attachments as virus'.
>
> I'll take one.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D." <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
Here is the design with the engine gauges moved.
----- Original Message -----
From: <TeamGrumman@aol.com>
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
>
> You are going to have to send attachments separately to each person that
> wants one. The server looks at attachments as virus'.
>
> I'll take one.
>
>
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| Subject: | Powerflow exhaust and empty weight |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D." <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
Three questions for the group. What is the empty weight of your aircraft? Second
does anyone have some good information about the performance gains with the
Powerflow exhaust on a Tiger. Has anyone done any cylinder work to improve performance?
Thank you in advance,
Daniel
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| Subject: | Re: Powerflow exhaust and empty weight |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Rick Pollack" <rpa123@cine.net>
----- Original
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D."
<drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Three questions for the group. What is the empty weight of your aircraft?
Second does anyone have some good information about the performance gains
with the Powerflow exhaust on a Tiger. Has anyone done any cylinder work to
improve performance?
>
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Daniel
Daniel, when Gary did my major overhaul we had LyCon engine shop port,
polish and flow balance my new cylinders. They charged $200 per cylinder
additional to the cost of the Lycoming cylinders. This is an approved mod
by Lycoming. I think it has made a noticeable difference. My engine dyno
tested at 198 hp. A few days ago on a flight to San Francisco I was at a
TRUE 140kts at 10,500. My ground speed was 155kts.
Rick Tiger 4542N
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Powerflow exhaust and empty weight |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gil Alexander <gilalex@earthlink.net>
At 12:15 PM 2/13/2004, you wrote:
>--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D."
><drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
>
>Three questions for the group. What is the empty weight of your aircraft?
>Second does anyone have some good information about the performance gains
>with the Powerflow exhaust on a Tiger. Has anyone done any cylinder work
>to improve performance?
Daniel
... Lycon in Visalia, CA will port, polish and flow balance
Lycoming cylinders and claim an extra 18 to 20 HP for an O-320 engine.
No STC needed apparently.... cost used to be in the $900 range
if you shipped the 4 cylinders to them..... This price is less than the
amount that Lycoming just lowered their list price by, so if you are buying
new cylinders......
gil in Tucson
>Thank you in advance,
>
>Daniel
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| Subject: | Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Walt Beaulieu" <aviation@acs-group.net>
If someone will send it to me, I will put it on my server and post a link to
it
and anybody can download it who wants.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of flyv35b
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b"
<flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
What happened to the drawing?
Cliff A&P/IA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D." <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Aircraft Panels AG-5B owners
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D."
<drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Dear AG-5B owners. I am currently redoing my panel for my 1992 tiger to
reflect a more modern design. The panel will be powder coated and
silk-screened. I can do a panel for your aircraft and make modifications to
instrument placements. I have paid for the CADD transfer of our panel and
can custom make a panel for your aircraft. I am trying to offset the setup
costs for the panel layout. Please call at 480-510-6534. I have included a
jpeg drawing of the panel to view.
>
> Thanks
> Daniel
> N142B
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Powerflow exhaust and empty weight |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Geoffrey Hickey <ardri@comcast.net>
Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D. wrote:
>--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Daniel F. Rychlik, M.D." <drychlik@sbcglobal.net>
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>Three questions for the group. What is the empty weight of your aircraft? Second
does anyone have some good information about the performance gains with the
Powerflow exhaust on a Tiger. Has anyone done any cylinder work to improve performance?
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1401 lbs.
Can't help you with the Powerflow, but I had to replace all 4 cylinders
this fall (exhaust valve guide wear). I had the new ones ported &
polished at Lycon. It most definitely makes a difference. My Cheetah has
the 61" pitch Sensenich prop that FletchAir sells, and the HC mod. It'll
do 131 KTAS in cruise at 4500' at redline, and there's still plenty of
throttle left. I gained about 150 FPM climb with the new cylinders, too.
- Geoff Hickey
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