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1. 04:35 PM - The FAA (TeamGrumman@aol.com)
2. 06:09 PM - rutan's plane flys on the 21st Jun (Anna3003@aol.com)
3. 10:24 PM - Re: rutan's plane flys on the 21st Jun (Brian Hausknecht)
4. 10:32 PM - Re: The FAA (Steven Jackson)
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
I got a call several months ago from a guy asking about the paperwork I used
to get a field approval for a Stewart Warner 8406 oil cooler for my Cheetah.
I sent him that data I used. I didn't have the signed off 337 because it
went with the Cheetah when I sold it; one of those things I forgot to do before
I sold it. Anyway.
The guy called me today saying his mechanic was doing the installation. He
asked if he needed a field approval. I told him that was the path I used and
that I expected he'd have to do the same.
Then, later today I got another call from him saying that he needed the
signed off 337 for approved data. I told him that I didn't keep a copy. He
then
said the FAA inspector (FSDO, I presume.) was there and wanted to talke to
me. When he got on the phone he started yelling at me saying he'd submitted
paperwork that didn't have a field approval stamp on it. I explained that the
signed off 337 went with the plane and he started yelling saying that the
paperwork I sent the guy was worthless and in the future if I wanted to help
someone I should supply the correct paperwork. I asked if I could get a field
approval with the paperwork I supplied, why couldn't the guy wanting to do the
same. He started yelling at me again and I started yelling back, "HEY, HEY,
HEY, settle down. Then he put the guy back on the phone.
Why is it that people hired by the FAA have to be a%&holes? It's like they
have no ability to think though a problem and come to a solution if it hasn't
already been done before.
Like, requiring approval to put an FAA approved aircraft size 25 battery in a
certified plane that requires a size 25 battery just because the new battery
wasn't on the type certificate. And, it wasn't on the TCDS only because the
technolgy didn't exist when the TCDS was written. What, pray tell,
rationalization is needed to solve this problem? None.
But I digress.
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| Subject: | rutan's plane flys on the 21st Jun |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Anna3003@aol.com
out of Mojave. I understand the airport will be closed, but they will allow
cars to park starting at 3 am. Take off is scheduled for 6:30 am but who knows
when he will actually take off. what would be a good nearby airport to fly to
on Sunday, get a motel and a car for an early start to Mojave? I'm asking Gary
because he's familiar with all the airstrips in that locale. Might be a
grumman fly-in possibility-anyone else interested in GA in outer space?
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| Subject: | rutan's plane flys on the 21st Jun |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Brian Hausknecht" <bhauskne@san.rr.com>
Fox Field (KWJF) is pretty close. That's the airport in Lancaster. Flew in
there last weekend for lunch and gusting, windy landing practice. If I
wasn't going to be in ... Alaska ... on business I'd think about heading up
there.
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Anna3003@aol.com
out of Mojave. I understand the airport will be closed, but they will allow
cars to park starting at 3 am. Take off is scheduled for 6:30 am but who
knows
when he will actually take off. what would be a good nearby airport to fly
to
on Sunday, get a motel and a car for an early start to Mojave? I'm asking
Gary
because he's familiar with all the airstrips in that locale. Might be a
grumman fly-in possibility-anyone else interested in GA in outer space?
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steven Jackson" <steven.jackson14@adelphia.net>
Gary wrote:
"What, pray tell, rationalization is needed to solve this problem?"
In 8 years with the Corps, I've noticed that civilian government employees,
at least the ones in management positions, are power trippers. I do a lot
of work with our range control on base, specifically dealing with conflicts
between the airliners and the R-2501 airspace. I traveled up to Palmdale
and talked to the lady that runs L.A. Center. I asked her a question about
RVSM and whether or not that would reduce the traffic over a specific jet
route that cuts across the base and causes us much consternation. Anyway,
she didn't even know what RVSM stood for, much less the answer to my
question. She just launched into some (I presumed) oft used sermon on how
the "FAA act of 1957 mandates that U.S. airspace belongs to the American
citizenry, and the FAA was appointed as the steward of that
airspace"...blah, blah, blah...ad nauseum. Nice to know that the person in
charge up there is so in tune with the controllers that keep planes from
swapping paint.
She was probably never a controller anyway, and your FAA conversationalist
was probably never a mechanic in the field...
Steven Jackson
'75 AA-1B
N1434R
L22
Yucca Valley, CA
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