---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/23/04: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:41 AM - Re: Tail strobe (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM) 2. 08:59 AM - flashing (slag) and my #3 (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM) 3. 09:58 AM - Re: Re: Tail strobe (James Courtney) 4. 10:06 AM - Re: Re: Tail strobe (James Courtney) 5. 10:55 AM - Re: Re: Tail strobe (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM) 6. 03:53 PM - Re: Re: Tail strobe (James Courtney) 7. 11:05 PM - Re: Re: Tail strobe (Steven Jackson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:27 AM PST US From: TeamGrumman@AOL.COM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Tail strobe --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com In a message dated 8/23/04 8:25:48 AM, jamey@jamescourtney.net writes: > Gary, > Can you point me at the tail strobe and lightless rudder cap you > were suggesting.=A0 It's acceptable to the FAA to remove the beacon?=A0 Also, > you'll recall I have a nice dent about 12" long on my right aileron which > has been there since before I purchased the aircraft.=A0 Is this sort of thing > simply filled during painting or can it be smoothed out or should the > aileron be replaced? > > Thanks! > > Jamey > Jamey, the FAA only requires 3-point light. On the stock Grumman, the strobes and rotating (flashing) beacon served that purpose. From much more than a couple of hundred yards, the stock beacon is nearly impossible to see. Fletcher has the flush fit rudder cap and you can replace the beacon power supply and associated wiring with a tail strobe/nav light combo that does the makes the FAA happy. Much cleaner install too. As for the aileron, it's one of those things that you'd probably want to replace. I wouldn't try to fill it. The aluminum is very thin and it would flex and pop out the filler; probably not in the first year or so, but it won't last. I have a dent in my left flap. I need another one of those too. Gary ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:59:28 AM PST US From: TeamGrumman@AOL.COM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: flashing (slag) and my #3 wingman2@prodigy.net, mollyelmore@hotmail.com, Garner_Rice@fletchair.com --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com My number 3 cylinder runs hotter than all the rest. I partially blocked #1 to see if I could move air to the back and heat #1. While this helped, it didn't help all that much. OK With #1 partially blocked, I would watch #3 until it peaked (it always got hotter faster than the other three) and then added full rich, carb heat, anything to get the temps back down. Then I filed out the flashing in the fins on #3 and #1 became the first to peak. So, I unblocked it. On a flight from Auburn to Lancaster yesterday #3 consistently ran 25 degrees hotter than all the rest. Filing the flashing out of the fins helped, but not as much as I would have liked. By-the-Way, I flew down from Auburn in loose formation with a Traveler. Roughly 112-120 knots ground speed the whole way. I burned just 7.7 gallons an hour and the traveler burned just 7.2 gallons per hour. Why the big difference? Like I said, loose formation. I had to make a few big circles and pass him at 150+ knots every once in a while just for the hell of it. One time I had about 2000 feet on him and pushed the nose over to 165 knots airspeed to pass him. Gary ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:58:45 AM PST US From: "James Courtney" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Tail strobe --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" Thanks Gary, I'll look into financing a fine fresh flap from Fletch. Jamey -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TeamGrumman@AOL.COM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Tail strobe --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com In a message dated 8/23/04 8:25:48 AM, jamey@jamescourtney.net writes: > Gary, > Can you point me at the tail strobe and lightless rudder cap you were > suggesting.=A0 It's acceptable to the FAA to remove the beacon?=A0 > Also, you'll recall I have a nice dent about 12" long on my right > aileron which has been there since before I purchased the aircraft.=A0 > Is this sort of thing simply filled during painting or can it be > smoothed out or should the aileron be replaced? > > Thanks! > > Jamey > Jamey, the FAA only requires 3-point light. On the stock Grumman, the strobes and rotating (flashing) beacon served that purpose. From much more than a couple of hundred yards, the stock beacon is nearly impossible to see. Fletcher has the flush fit rudder cap and you can replace the beacon power supply and associated wiring with a tail strobe/nav light combo that does the makes the FAA happy. Much cleaner install too. As for the aileron, it's one of those things that you'd probably want to replace. I wouldn't try to fill it. The aluminum is very thin and it would flex and pop out the filler; probably not in the first year or so, but it won't last. I have a dent in my left flap. I need another one of those too. Gary advertising on the Matronics Forums. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:05 AM PST US From: "James Courtney" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Tail strobe --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" Gary, Who makes said tail strobe? Thanks! Jamey -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TeamGrumman@AOL.COM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Tail strobe --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com In a message dated 8/23/04 8:25:48 AM, jamey@jamescourtney.net writes: > Gary, > Can you point me at the tail strobe and lightless rudder cap you were > suggesting.=A0 It's acceptable to the FAA to remove the beacon?=A0 > Also, you'll recall I have a nice dent about 12" long on my right > aileron which has been there since before I purchased the aircraft.=A0 > Is this sort of thing simply filled during painting or can it be > smoothed out or should the aileron be replaced? > > Thanks! > > Jamey > Jamey, the FAA only requires 3-point light. On the stock Grumman, the strobes and rotating (flashing) beacon served that purpose. From much more than a couple of hundred yards, the stock beacon is nearly impossible to see. Fletcher has the flush fit rudder cap and you can replace the beacon power supply and associated wiring with a tail strobe/nav light combo that does the makes the FAA happy. Much cleaner install too. As for the aileron, it's one of those things that you'd probably want to replace. I wouldn't try to fill it. The aluminum is very thin and it would flex and pop out the filler; probably not in the first year or so, but it won't last. I have a dent in my left flap. I need another one of those too. Gary advertising on the Matronics Forums. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:55:31 AM PST US From: TeamGrumman@AOL.COM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Tail strobe --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com In a message dated 8/23/04 10:08:35 AM, jamey@jamescourtney.net writes: > Gary, > Who makes said tail strobe? > > Thanks! > > Jamey > > I have a Whelen, but, Aero Flash has one too. I thinking you can mix and match the stobes light themselves and the power supplies. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:53:43 PM PST US From: "James Courtney" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Tail strobe --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" Okay, $3k, won't be doing that, the dent in the aileron isn't that bad and the plane flies just fine:) Jamey -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Courtney Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Tail strobe --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" --> Thanks Gary, I'll look into financing a fine fresh flap from Fletch. Jamey -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TeamGrumman@AOL.COM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Tail strobe --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com In a message dated 8/23/04 8:25:48 AM, jamey@jamescourtney.net writes: > Gary, > Can you point me at the tail strobe and lightless rudder cap you were > suggesting.=A0 It's acceptable to the FAA to remove the beacon?=A0 > Also, you'll recall I have a nice dent about 12" long on my right > aileron which has been there since before I purchased the aircraft.=A0 > Is this sort of thing simply filled during painting or can it be > smoothed out or should the aileron be replaced? > > Thanks! > > Jamey > Jamey, the FAA only requires 3-point light. On the stock Grumman, the strobes and rotating (flashing) beacon served that purpose. From much more than a couple of hundred yards, the stock beacon is nearly impossible to see. Fletcher has the flush fit rudder cap and you can replace the beacon power supply and associated wiring with a tail strobe/nav light combo that does the makes the FAA happy. Much cleaner install too. As for the aileron, it's one of those things that you'd probably want to replace. I wouldn't try to fill it. The aluminum is very thin and it would flex and pop out the filler; probably not in the first year or so, but it won't last. I have a dent in my left flap. I need another one of those too. Gary advertising on the Matronics Forums. advertising on the Matronics Forums. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:05:02 PM PST US From: "Steven Jackson" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Tail strobe --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steven Jackson" I just called Fletchair today about strobe power supplies. The OEM power supply was an Aeroflash. They have the same one for $108. Spruce has it for $102. There's a guy at my field who just bought an AA-1B. His has the light up on the tail, but its a strobe light instead of a beacon. Looks much better. I'm considering that as a short term solution until I get strobes all around... Steven Jackson N1434R L22 Yucca Valley, CA -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of James Courtney Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Tail strobe --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" Okay, $3k, won't be doing that, the dent in the aileron isn't that bad and the plane flies just fine:) Jamey -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Courtney Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Tail strobe --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" --> Thanks Gary, I'll look into financing a fine fresh flap from Fletch. Jamey -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TeamGrumman@AOL.COM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Tail strobe --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com In a message dated 8/23/04 8:25:48 AM, jamey@jamescourtney.net writes: > Gary, > Can you point me at the tail strobe and lightless rudder cap you were > suggesting.=A0 It's acceptable to the FAA to remove the beacon?=A0 > Also, you'll recall I have a nice dent about 12" long on my right > aileron which has been there since before I purchased the aircraft.=A0 > Is this sort of thing simply filled during painting or can it be > smoothed out or should the aileron be replaced? > > Thanks! > > Jamey > Jamey, the FAA only requires 3-point light. On the stock Grumman, the strobes and rotating (flashing) beacon served that purpose. From much more than a couple of hundred yards, the stock beacon is nearly impossible to see. Fletcher has the flush fit rudder cap and you can replace the beacon power supply and associated wiring with a tail strobe/nav light combo that does the makes the FAA happy. Much cleaner install too. As for the aileron, it's one of those things that you'd probably want to replace. I wouldn't try to fill it. The aluminum is very thin and it would flex and pop out the filler; probably not in the first year or so, but it won't last. I have a dent in my left flap. I need another one of those too. Gary advertising on the Matronics Forums. advertising on the Matronics Forums.