---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/25/04: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:49 AM - Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/24/04 (LarryLymb@AOL.COM) 2. 08:10 AM - Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/24/04 (Tiger 67B) 3. 08:30 AM - Re: Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/24 (Park, Edward) 4. 11:42 PM - Paint Gun Needle Size (Steven Jackson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:03 AM PST US From: LarryLymb@AOL.COM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/24/04 --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: LarryLymb@aol.com In a message dated 8/25/04 3:00:23 AM, teamgrumman-list-digest@matronics.com writes: > > Time: 06:14:58 AM PST US > From: "Weir, Douglas (CALYON)" > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Aileron repair > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Weir, Douglas (CALYON)" < > Douglas.Weir@us.calyon.com> > > Three weeks after I got my plane back from a very expensive paint job, my > left aileron was damaged by a rolling cart one of my ramp-neighbors failed > to secure during strong winds.=A0 There was a sharp strike to the aileron's > trailing edge and a scrape down the edge toward the fuselage (about 18 in). > I took the plane back to the paint shop, and they used pliers to squeeze the > aileron back into shape (without breaking the skin), and then bondo'd and > primed/painted the aileron.=A0 Took a couple hours at most (aside from waiting > for things to dry), and it's impossible to find the repair today.=A0 Maybe in > a couple of years it will pop out, but who knows, maybe it won't. > > Not sure how bad the damage is, but maybe worth trying to repair - you can > always go spend $2000 for a new aileron if you don't like the way the repair > worked. > > Good luck. Doug > > Doug, Did they rebalance the aileron after that Bondo job? Larry Lymburner Traveler N5798L ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:00 AM PST US From: Tiger 67B Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/24/04 --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Tiger 67B Doesn't this aileron need to be removed, painted, etc and BALANCED ?? TeamGrumman-List Digest Server wrote: > * > > ================================================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================== > > Today's complete TeamGrumman-List Digest can be also be found in either > of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest > formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked > Indexes and Message Navigation. 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There was a sharp strike to the aileron's > trailing edge and a scrape down the edge toward the fuselage (about 18 in). > I took the plane back to the paint shop, and they used pliers to squeeze the > aileron back into shape (without breaking the skin), and then bondo'd and > primed/painted the aileron. Took a couple hours at most (aside from waiting > for things to dry), and it's impossible to find the repair today. Maybe in > a couple of years it will pop out, but who knows, maybe it won't. > > Not sure how bad the damage is, but maybe worth trying to repair - you can > always go spend $2000 for a new aileron if you don't like the way the repair > worked. > > Good luck. > > > *** Calyon **************************************************** > This message and/or any attachments (the "message") is intended for the sole use > of its addressee. If you are not the addressee, please immediately notify the > sender and then destroy the message. 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All rights reserved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Visit our PERSONAL WEBSITE at: http://www.geocities.com/tiger67bravo/ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:54 AM PST US From: "Park, Edward" /04 Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/24 /04 --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Park, Edward" I thought you can't really bondo a control surface because it messes with the weight/balance too much and will cause flutter. . . . meaning the only way to repair is to actually redo the sheet metal ? --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Tiger 67B Doesn't this aileron need to be removed, painted, etc and BALANCED ?? TeamGrumman-List Digest Server wrote: > * > > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Weir, Douglas (CALYON)" > > Three weeks after I got my plane back from a very expensive paint job, my > left aileron was damaged by a rolling cart one of my ramp-neighbors failed > to secure during strong winds. There was a sharp strike to the aileron's > trailing edge and a scrape down the edge toward the fuselage (about 18 in). > I took the plane back to the paint shop, and they used pliers to squeeze the > aileron back into shape (without breaking the skin), and then bondo'd and > primed/painted the aileron. Took a couple hours at most (aside from waiting > for things to dry), and it's impossible to find the repair today. Maybe in > a couple of years it will pop out, but who knows, maybe it won't. > > Not sure how bad the damage is, but maybe worth trying to repair - you can > always go spend $2000 for a new aileron if you don't like the way the repair > worked. > > Good luck. > > > > If you do not wish to receive promotional materials from Ingram Micro via e-mail, please, go to http://www.ingrammicro.com/emailmgmt or reply to this message and type "unsubscribe " in the subject - Ingram Micro Inc. - Corporate Headquarters, 1600 E. St. Andrew Place, Santa Ana, CA 92705 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:42:01 PM PST US From: "Steven Jackson" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Paint Gun Needle Size --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steven Jackson" Can someone explain to me what difference the size of the paint gun needle makes? Also, what size needle for certain applications? Steven Jackson N1434R L22 Yucca Valley, CA