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1. 05:56 AM - Re: Re: wheel pants (flyv35b)
2. 10:45 AM - (Steve Davis)
3. 06:07 PM - Annual (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
4. 06:15 PM - Re: Re: wheel pants (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
5. 07:08 PM - Re: Annual (Dww0708@AOL.COM)
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
Yes, it was designed years ago in the 70's just for Grummans. They were
narrower and more streamlined and mounted with a very simple steel bracket
under two of the lower bolts that attach the axle bracket to the fiberglass
gear leg. Of course they had no lead weight in the nose and were lighter
weight and they also had an enclosed rear bulkhead aft of the tire, so they
were more rigid. The biggest difference is that they were fiberglass and
did not need the complex and expensive pivoting bracket and doubler plates
that the flimsy plastic fairings need. They probably could be sold for 1/3
the cost of the factory fairings or less. I almost bought the STC and molds
from Van years ago and wish I had of now.
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gil Alexander" <gilalex@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: wheel pants
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gil Alexander
> <gilalex@earthlink.net>
>
> Cliff,
>
> You mean this Vans STC was for a "Grumman-custom" wheel pant?
>
> I thought it was to adapt an existing (RV4?) Vans part to other
> aircraft...... Vans still owns an STC to fit these pants on a couple of
> Piper models....
>
> VA-4 is an early Vans part number....
>
> gil in Tucson (very, very slowly building an RV-6A....:
> )
>
>
> At 07:04 PM 10/10/2004, you wrote:
>>--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b"
>><flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
>>
>>Van doesn't sell them and never really did much as far as I know. They
>>have
>>their own fairings for the RV's. Apparently Fletcher changed the number.
>>
>>Cliff
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Gil Alexander" <gilalex@earthlink.net>
>>To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: wheel pants
>>
>>
>> > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gil Alexander
>> > <gilalex@earthlink.net>
>> >
>> > Cliff ... I was looking at an old STC list on Gary's web site....
>> >
>> > From the FAA data base to-day....
>> >
>> > It seems the Vans part number was amended.
>> > However, I don't find BA-4 listed in Vans stock list.
>> >
>> >
>> > STC Number:
>> > SA66NW
>> >
>> > This certificate issued to:
>> > Fletcher James L
>> >
>> > STC Holder's Address:
>> > 9000 Randolf Street
>> > Houston TX 77061
>> > United States
>> >
>> > Description of the Type Design Change:
>> > Installation of Van's Aircraft model BA-4 fiberglass wheel fairings.
>> >
>> > Application Date:
>> >
>> >
>> > Status:
>> > Amended, 09/23/1994
>> >
>> > Responsible Office:
>> > ASW-190 Ft. Worth Special Certification Office Tel: (817) 222-5190
>> >
>> > TC Number -- Make -- Model:
>> > A11EA -- Tiger Aircraft LLC -- AA-1A
>> > A11EA -- Tiger Aircraft LLC -- AA-1B
>> > A11EA -- Tiger Aircraft LLC -- AA-1
>> > A16EA -- Tiger Aircraft LLC -- AA-5
>> >
>> >
>> > At 10:57 AM 10/10/2004, you wrote:
>> >>--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b"
>> >><flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
>> >>
>> >>Fletcher bought this STC from Van Grunsven. They are nice fairings
>> >>(much
>> >>simpler and better looking than the Grumman fairings). I had a set on
>> >>a
>> >>AA-1 Yankee that I owned.
>> >>
>> >>Cliff
>> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >>From: "Gil Alexander" <gilalex@earthlink.net>
>> >>To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
>> >>Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: wheel pants
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gil Alexander
>> >> > <gilalex@earthlink.net>
>> >> >
>> >> > Guys,
>> >> >
>> >> > Does anyone know if this STC still available??
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation and Gulfstream American AA-5; A11EA
>> >> > SA66NW
>> >> > Installation of VA-4 fiberglass wheel fairings. Issued 9/4/73. NW
>> >> > Van's
>> >> > Aircraft Route 2, Box 187 Forest Grove, OR 97116 Airframe
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Vans VA-4 fairings are not listed in his present catalog, but
>> >> > are
>> >> > probably still available (especially used, as RVers upgrade to the
>> >> > later,
>> >> > lower drag pants)
>> >> >
>> >> > I still wonder if Van used to own a Grumman - there are many
>> >> > similarities between the Cheetah/Tiger and the RV-6, etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > This appears to be a STC owned directly by Vans Aircraft.
>> >> >
>> >> > ...gil in Tucson - working on kitchen remodels,
>> >> > instead
>> >> > of going to the CopperState fly-in...:
>> >> > (
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > At 09:04 AM 10/10/2004, you wrote:
>> >> >>--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: LarryLymb@aol.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>In a message dated 10/10/04 3:00:29 AM,
>> >> >>teamgrumman-list-digest@matronics.com
>> >> >>writes:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Gary,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Any chance you'll be designing a new set of wheel pants and
>> >> >> > fairings
>> >> >> > for the AA-5 series?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Bruce Smith
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>DMA already has a set designed for the AA-5 series.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Larry Lymburner Traveler N5798L
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steve Davis" <stdavis@wuesd.org>
Stdavis@wuesd.org
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
Steve,
TeamGrumman-List can be used to contact me.
I can also be reached at TeamGrumman@aol.com.
Gary
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 10/10/04 7:55:54 PM, gilalex@earthlink.net writes:
> Cliff,
>
> You mean this Vans STC was for a "Grumman-custom" wheel pant?
>
> I thought it was to adapt an existing (RV4?) Vans part to other
> aircraft...... Vans still owns an STC to fit these pants on a couple of
> Piper models....
>
> VA-4 is an early Vans part number....
>
>=A0 gil in Tucson (very, very slowly building an RV-6A....:
>
EEE-Gads, I didn't think there'd be so much interest. I have Fletcher's
tooling for the wheel pants. I've had the tooling for several months. Dave
(Composite Dave) made up a set of wheel pants from the tooling to see if they'd
fit. Garner promised me some (either) drawings or hardware or both plus a=20set
of gear legs/hardware to trial fit a set so I (Composite Dave) could start
making them for Fletcher. I still don't have the hardware. How about
everyone calling Dave and Garner and remind them that I'm waiting for the hardware.
I also plan to make some mods and see if I can get them included in the
existing STC.
Gary
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Dww0708@aol.com
I am David White I am a newbee to this matronics, I have learned a lot
form Aeroelectric Bob, I think some people are very lucky to have some one
like that contributing. Any way I am a IA annualing an AA1A . 1750 FH on
origional O 235C2C (1969) Compressions good, oil screne good radios tired,
Canopy repaired. Any way the owner inquired about wheel pants to me today.
I think he is thinking in the 3 hundred range. I have not called the first
salvage yard. He is going to want to trade for a sport catagory eventually.
Any imput. DWW0708@aol.com
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