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1. 12:20 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
2. 02:14 AM - Tiger annual (finally finished) (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
3. 06:29 PM - Hey, Where's My List Mail Today...? (Matt Dralle)
4. 07:35 PM - Re: Tiger annual (finally finished) (Gil Alexander)
5. 10:34 PM - Re: Tiger annual (finally finished) (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
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| Subject: | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Lister,
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Matt Dralle
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| Subject: | Tiger annual (finally finished) |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
Well, the annual from hell is done. This was about the worst plane I've
worked on. Before the annual, the owner said he was very happy with the plane
and that the CHTs were never over 440. I asked him about the 440 degree
reading and he told me taht that was about the max it showed in climbout. This
is
with an EI CHT/EGT scanner.
Well after the annual, with new Lycoming cylinders massaged by LyCon, and new
baffles, the highest temp I saw was 330.
Cliff, would you have an EI EGT/CHT scanner equivalent to the JPI 700 that I
could use for comparison testing? I really find it hard to believe that I'm
only gettting a max of 330 CHT. Based on my experience, I would expect at
least 400-420 max with a JPI on new cylinders.
If you saw the list of items I found on this $13,000+ annual, I think you'd
faint.
Gary
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| Subject: | Hey, Where's My List Mail Today...? |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
My sincere apologies today! This morning (Thursday) at about 3am the
Matronics Firewall broke. About 9am I was able to bring up an older
firewall and got everything back on line, or so I thought... While the web
pages were working, I had neglected to add a policy that allowed incoming
email to get to the email server (actually the SPAM filtering
appliance). I just checked my email for the first time today and noticed
that I hadn't gotten any List mail today. Hum, I thought, this can't be good!!
Anyway, I'm going to enable incoming email now on the firewall and things
should be back to normal. I'm sure sorry for the oversight. Hopefully
nobody had any withdrawals from lack of List banter today!! :-)
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | Re: Tiger annual (finally finished) |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gil Alexander <gilalex@earthlink.net>
Gary... show us the list.......
At 03:12 AM 12/2/2004, you wrote:
>If you saw the list of items I found on this $13,000+ annual, I think you'd
>faint.
>
>Gary
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| Subject: | Re: Tiger annual (finally finished) |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 12/2/04 7:36:46 PM, gilalex@earthlink.net writes:
> Gary... show us the list.......
>
> At 03:12 AM 12/2/2004, you wrote:
>
>
Squawk List
1. Baffles (replaced baffle seals, cylinder baffles, and repaired, replaced
other baffles)
2. Look at seal along wing root (NA)
3. Install JPI 450 fuel flow (completed)
4. Replace Hoses (completed)
5. Check operation of Beacon (bad power supply)
6. Tighten Oil filler neck (Completed)
7. Check operation of hobbs meter. (found loose ground wire, ops checked
OK)
8. Glue left gear leg fairing (NA)
9. Remove ADF (Completed)
Engine (1) inspection Compression test at beginning of inspection, 55,=200
(1) New Lycoming cylinders, check compression at 25 hours
(2) New right mag.
(3) Harnesses frayed and worn in many places. Not replaced.
(4) Plugs cleaned and gapped. Plugs very rusty, 6 of 8 worn to
replacement limits
(5) Cable should be disassembled, cleaned and lubricated.
(6) Baffle seals in very poor condition, baffles on cylinders cracked/bent,
(7) left rear baffle has been modified to allow for a larger oil cooler.
Modification removed a LOT of excess material. A doubler had been installed
which did not fit properly.
(8) Right front baffle badly cracked and damaged.
(9) All baffles and seals replaced/repaired.
(10) Breather tube has been incorrectly modified and repaired.
(11) Lots of oil and grime everywhere. It=E2=80=99s possible the oil came=20from
bad
oil drain back hoses and a loose oil filler neck.
(12) Corrosion on engine mount under battery where battery acid has dripped.
Right lower (airframe) engine mount bent
(13) Vacuum pump bolts were loose.
(14) Rerouted mag and fuel pump wires for easier access to oil filter.
(15) Alternator wires badly frayed. Repaired. Landing light wire chafed,
cracked. Replaced.
(16) Crack, lower left. stop drilled. It appears as though the bottom
cowling is drilled off-center, 1/8 inch to the right.
(17) Upper cowling is almost completely debonded.
Engine (2)
(1) Battery wire on alternator hanging by a couple of strands.
(2) Drain on battery box missing. Acid has dripped on engine mount and
caused corrosion
(3) Primer lines appear to have been bent and rebent several times
(4) Brace for air filter badly worn, replace next annual.
(5) Carb inlet duct squished too much between engine mount.
(6) Trimmed off damaged area. Replace next annual.
(7) Replaced throttle quick release ball joint.
(8) Replaced two riser to muffler clamps
Dry Tappet Clearance (following installation of new cylinders)
Intake Exhaust
1) 0.051 0.063
2) 0.069 0.051
3) 0.069 0.047
4) 0.070 0.060
Engine (3)
(1) Oil filter adapter loose, evidence of oil leakage.
(2) Oil filter not saftied correctly (saftied so as to get loose).
(3) Rerouted wires to make oil filter easier to remove and install
(4) Some corrosion on oil cooler fins
(5) Threads on dip-stick stripped. Should be replaced.
(6) Oil filler neck loose. Replaced gasket.
Nose Gear
(1) Belville washer and other hardware installed wrong. Replaced belville
washers.
(2) Badly cracked (wheel fairing)
(3) Cleaned, inspeced and lubricated (nose gear)
Propeller
(1) Prop had not been installed correctly. It appears the rear backing
plate had been damaged (during propeller installation) causing the propeller to
not seat completely. This caused the prop to be mounted at an angle relative
to the crankshaft mounting surface. This caused the front spinner bulkhead
to crack and the doubler to chafe against the bulkhead. Three of the six
mounting bolts had badly galled, fretted, against the propeller bolt hole bore.
Forward bulhead cracked in two.
(2) Some oil evidence. There is so much oil eerywhere it is hard to tell
if the seal is leaking or not.
Left Wing
(1) Brake fairing badly cracked. Airworthy, but should be replaced.
(2) Foam gear leg fairing deteriorated. Airworthy, but should be
replaced.
(3) Hail damage.
(4) Clipped ailerons.
(5) Control bearings at service limit, should be replaced at next annual.
Aileron Travel (inches): Up: 1.375 Down: 1
Left main gear
(1) Brake fairing totally damaged. Should not be reused. Owner does not
want it replaced.
(2) Foam gear leg fairing totally damaged. Should not be reused. Owner
does not want it replaced.
(3) Wrong hardware installed. Causes fairing to chafe on mounting.
(4) Wheel bearing service to be accomplished next annual
(5) Lots and lots of corrosion and rust. Should be stripped and painted.
(6) Cleaned and lubed guide pins.
(7) brke disk very badly scarred from repeatedly operating on worn brake
linings/rivets.
(8) Worn to rivets, replaced. (brake linings)
(9) Brake line previously replaced. Replacement line was not bent
correctly and does not correctly fit mountings
Right wing
(1) Replaced missing rivet on inboard, leading edge, strap.
(2) Cracks in mounting holes.
(3) Hail damage.
(4) Clipped Ailerons.
(5) At service limit, should be replaced at next annual.
Aileron Travel (inches): Up: .375 Down: 1.75
Right main gear
(1) Cracks in mounting holes. (wheel fairings)
(2) Wheel bearing service to be accomplished next annual
(3) Lots and lots of corrosion and rust. Should be stripped and painted.
(4) Cleaned and lubed guide pins.
(5) Very badly scarred from repeatedly operating on worn brake
linings/rivets.
(6) Worn to rivets, replaced. (brake linings)
(7) (brake) Line previously replaced. Replacement line was not bent
correctly and does not correctly fit mountings
Fuselage
(1) CE-04-34. Cracks in lower right and upper left.
(2) did not disassemble elevator trim this annual. to be disassembled next
annual.
(3) Left horizontal root fairing cracked and warped.
(4) Removed up to 1/2 inch of mud from floor of fuselage.
Cabin Group (1)
(1) All 12 seat mounting to spar bolts loose. Hardware installed
incorrectly.
(2) Rear seat belts mounted incorrectly.
(3) Right defrost hose rotted and decomposing. Replaced. Plastic
defrost hose mounting had some material on it preventing the hose from mounting
properly. Defrost duct disassembled and cleaned and reinstalled.
(4) ALL interior plastic either in poor condition or new plastic installed
wrong. Corrected center console plastic mounting.
(5) Carptes bolted to floor with 1/4 inch bolts through the floor. Up to
1/2 inch of dirt and mud under carpets.
(6) Removed fire extinguisher, carpets, and side panels. Installed new
side panels and carpets.
(7) Hardware (nuts, washers, wire ties, cotter pins) wedged under cables,
lots of debris under cables.
(8) Wrong speaker installed on right side (left speaker missing). This
makes the glareshield bind and difficult to install correctly. The large
magnet also affects the compass.
(9) Foam on underside of glareshield decomposing. Removed.
(10) Lots of hardware in cabin installed incorrectly or not at all.
Plastic interior parts not trimmed or trimmed wrong. Nothing fits very well.
(11) Could not find an entry for replacing the rudder springs.
(12) Cleaned and lubed all pulleys and cables.
(13) Flaps failed to retract after first flight. Troubleshoot. Flap
switch is intermettent. Recommend replacing.
Cabin (2)
(1) Landing light wire near landing light frayed, brittle, cracked, and
taped with black electrical tape.
Wire was replaced.
(2) beacon did not operate when tested. Trouble shoot: Wire
disconnected from balast resistor; reconnected. Other wiring OK. Bulb OK.
Voltage
to power supply/flashing unit OK. Ground wires OK. Flashing unit does not
switch voltage between OFF and ON. Flashing unit needs to be replaced.
(3) Removed ADF and antennas. Did not close-out holes.
(4) Clock does not keep time
(5) Hobbs checked OK
Other than that ....... The owner needs to spend another $2,000 to finish off
the squawks I postponed to next year.
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