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1. 05:54 AM - Re: Things are awfully quiet ... (flyv35b)
2. 05:58 AM - Re: Things are awfully quiet ... (flyv35b)
3. 07:12 AM - Re: Things are awfully quiet ... (Gil Alexander)
4. 08:00 AM - Re: Things are awfully quiet ... (flyv35b)
5. 09:00 AM - Re: Things are awfully quiet ... (James Courtney)
6. 09:19 AM - Free speach list........ (GOLDPILOT@AOL.COM)
7. 06:23 PM - Re: Free speach list........ (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
8. 06:23 PM - Cliff, do you have .... (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
9. 06:25 PM - (Cliff) (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
10. 06:28 PM - Re: Things are awfully quiet ... (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
11. 06:30 PM - Re: Things are awfully quiet ... (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
12. 07:47 PM - Re: Things are awfully quiet ... (Gil Alexander)
13. 09:29 PM - Re: Things are awfully quiet ... (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
14. 10:18 PM - Two Questions (Steven Jackson)
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| Subject: | Re: Things are awfully quiet ... |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
Not to mention the price of the lots, which I understand is pretty
expensive.
Cliff
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Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Things are awfully quiet ...
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 12/15/04 2:31:40 PM, edward.park@ingrammicro.com
> writes:
>
>
>> Is the name of the airport Grass Valley Airport ?=A0=A0 I can't find it
>> on
>> www.airnav.com=A0
>>
>> These are the only ones that show up:
>>
>> O17=A0 Grass Valley, CA, USA=A0 Nevada County Air Park=A0=A0
>>
>
> It's actually Nevada County. I'd love to buy in Alta Sierra but the
> folks
> who run the home owners association and more dictatorial than Saddam.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Things are awfully quiet ... |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
Cliff Hanson was on here for a while and had some good input.
> I think Bob Stewart monitors the list.
I'm still on the list but only make comments when I feel I have something
beneficial to add.
> This list is just over a year old. It's lasted this long. I see no
> reason
> why it won't keep growing.
Hopefully it will. Good luck to you Gary, with you endeavor at Grass
Valley.
Cliff
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From: <TeamGrumman@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Things are awfully quiet ...
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>
>
> In a message dated 12/15/04 11:58:10 AM, sparksnmagic@usa.net writes:
>
>
>> Unless there's a migration or a cross-post arrangement, some of us are
>> left
>> in the void and unable to get answers to our queries (especially the
>> AA-1x
>> owners).
>>
>> Sorry for the bitterness.=A0 But I'm bitter.
>>
>
> Hi Brad, I understand your bitterness. There is a lot of traffic on GG
> but,
> let's be honest, most of it is senseless bullshit. Hell, I've seen 20
> email
> exchanges on how far to leave the canopy open in-flight.
>
> This list is for real concerns and interactions with regular guys, not for
> the multitude of idiots. Ron Levy got off this list because Matt asked
> for
> contibutions to keep the list going. When I asked if he also protested
> the DNC,
> RNC or the NRA or the Salvation Army when they asked for contributions to
> keep their organizations operational, he wouldn't respond and quit the
> list.
> Thinking back, it wasn't a big loss.
>
> I welcome your inputs and any suggestions you might have. Feel free to
> copy
> and paste a worthwhile GG post and if anyone here has an opinion, I'm sure
> they'll respond. Cliff Hanson was on here for a while and had some good
> input.
> I think Bob Stewart monitors the list.
>
> This list is just over a year old. It's lasted this long. I see no
> reason
> why it won't keep growing.
>
> By-the-way, I've seen numerous post to GG which would have been grounds
> for
> banishment without any apparent action from Herr Furor. My suspicion is
> that
> he's lightened up since the creation of TeamGrumman-List. This is good.
> Anne Rand said, "Don't think for one second that a single person cannot
> effect
> change. Infact, all change starts with a single person."
>
> Read my quote on the unreasonable man on my web site.
>
> Thanks for your interest and contributions to TeamGrumman (soon to be in
> Grass Valley)
>
> Gary
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Things are awfully quiet ... |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gil Alexander <gilalex@earthlink.net>
And restrictions from the Zoning folks.
When I looked there about 6 years ago, they wanted a fire suppression
system - and a new conditional use permit - installed if you wanted to
build a hangar on the common area. Some lots came with construction rights
for a single hangar near the end of the runway....
Also no fuel available locally.
Gil A .... moved to La Cholla Airpark (%&AZ) in Tucson.... with cheap
fuel... but still expensive 7 acre lots...:
(
At 06:53 AM 12/16/2004, you wrote:
>--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b"
><flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
>
>Not to mention the price of the lots, which I understand is pretty
>expensive.
>
>Cliff
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>From: <TeamGrumman@AOL.COM>
>To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Things are awfully quiet ...
>
>
> > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/15/04 2:31:40 PM, edward.park@ingrammicro.com
> > writes:
> >
> >
> >> Is the name of the airport Grass Valley Airport ?=A0=A0 I can't find it
> >> on
> >> www.airnav.com=A0
> >>
> >> These are the only ones that show up:
> >>
> >> O17=A0 Grass Valley, CA, USA=A0 Nevada County Air Park=A0=A0
> >>
> >
> > It's actually Nevada County. I'd love to buy in Alta Sierra but the
> > folks
> > who run the home owners association and more dictatorial than Saddam.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Things are awfully quiet ... |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
Hey Gil,
I will be flying down to LaChoya next week to visit some relatives over
Xmas. Could we get together sometime? What is your phone # down there.
Cliff A&P/IA
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| Subject: | Things are awfully quiet ... |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net>
Ditto. I can probably free up some time to help you get your hanger set up
up there some weekend in January if you'd like the help. I figure I'll more
than make the time back up in not flying to Lancaster;)
Jamey
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[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Anna3003@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Things are awfully quiet ...
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Anna3003@aol.com
Yippee! I'd much rather fly to Grass Valley than to Lancaster. I hope you
can get the big hangar.
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Free speach list........ |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: GOLDPILOT@aol.com
....since this is a "free speech list", Happy Channukah to everybody!
Fly safe.
David
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| Subject: | Re: Free speach list........ |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 12/16/04 9:21:38 AM, GOLDPILOT@AOL.COM writes:
> ....since this is a "free speech list",=A0 Happy Channukah to=A0 everybody!
> Fly safe.
> David
>
>
Thanks Dave.
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| Subject: | Cliff, do you have .... |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
Cliff, do you have a high tech EI engine monitor I can use for a while to
compare to the JPI?
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 12/16/04 6:02:38 AM, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com writes:
> I'm still on the list but only make comments when I feel I have something
> beneficial to add.
>
Cliff, see my post on the EI vs JPI ...
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| Subject: | Re: Things are awfully quiet ... |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 12/16/04 7:14:14 AM, gilalex@earthlink.net writes:
> When I looked there about 6 years ago, they wanted a fire suppression
> system - and a new conditional use permit - installed if you wanted to
> build a hangar on the common area.=A0 Some lots came with construction rights
> for a single hangar near the end of the runway....
>
> Also no fuel available locally.
>
The hangar available to buy has fire suppresion and all the other stuff.
The builder is willing to work with me to get any other hurdles lowered or
eliminated.
They have fuel there. It's cheaper than Auburn.
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| Subject: | Re: Things are awfully quiet ... |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 12/16/04 9:02:44 AM, jamey@jamescourtney.net writes:
> Ditto.=A0 I can probably free up some time to help you get your hanger set up
> up there some weekend in January if you'd like the help.=A0 I figure I'll=20more
> than make the time back up in not flying to Lancaster;)
>
Any help would be appreciated. I'll post to TG when the move gets underway.
I'll probably take up a load of furniture mid-next week.
Gary
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| Subject: | Re: Things are awfully quiet ... |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gil Alexander <gilalex@earthlink.net>
My comments were about Alta Sierra, not Nevada County... gil A
At 07:27 PM 12/16/2004, you wrote:
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>
>
>In a message dated 12/16/04 7:14:14 AM, gilalex@earthlink.net writes:
>
>
> > When I looked there about 6 years ago, they wanted a fire suppression
> > system - and a new conditional use permit - installed if you wanted to
> > build a hangar on the common area.=A0 Some lots came with construction
> rights
> > for a single hangar near the end of the runway....
> >
> > Also no fuel available locally.
> >
>
>The hangar available to buy has fire suppresion and all the other stuff.
>The builder is willing to work with me to get any other hurdles lowered or
>eliminated.
>
>They have fuel there. It's cheaper than Auburn.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Things are awfully quiet ... |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 12/16/04 7:48:53 PM, gilalex@earthlink.net writes:
> My comments were about Alta Sierra, not Nevada County...=A0=A0 gil A
>
Oh, well, that's an entirely different story. Everytime I've been there,
either with a plane or by car, every resident I met seemed hostile. Like,
"What do you want and why are you here?" I even went there with a Real Estate
agent and the first comment from the first person who saw us said, "This is=20a
private community. You can't just walk around and look at property."
The RE told me the C&Rs were very strict about who did what to whom and when.
If you live there, there is even a restriction on the number of friends you
can have fly in and visit at any one time. I think it was 2 planes.
Hopefully, Nevada County is more friendly.
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steven Jackson" <steven.jackson14@adelphia.net>
TG,
1. Has anyone ever thought of putting an IO-320 in a AA-1X? I know you'd
have to install some type of fuel return to the tanks, but are there
clearance issues inside the cowling or anything? Would there be increased
weight that would make it prohibitive?
2. Reading the "Speed with Efficiency" book, if a plenum for engine cooling
is so efficient, why don't manufacturers (other than older Mooneys) use
them, and again, would designing one for the AA-X be worthwhile? If I
remember correctly Gary, you're using one on your new cowling for the 4
seaters, right? I guess a new nosebowl would be one thing you'd have to
add.
Steven Jackson
N1434R
L22
Yucca Valley, CA
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