---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/24/05: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:21 AM - Re: For Grumman owners and/or pilots @ Gustine Airport Barbeque 3O1 (TeamGrumman@aol.com) 2. 04:24 AM - Re: AA-2 (Bruce Smith) 3. 04:56 AM - Re: AA-2 (Larry Matteo) 4. 06:10 AM - ANY FLY-INs? (FLYaDIVE@AOL.COM) 5. 11:31 AM - Re: AA-2 (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM) 6. 11:34 AM - Re: ANY FLY-INs? (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM) 7. 11:36 AM - Linn (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM) 8. 06:27 PM - Re: AA-2 (Larry Matteo) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:38 AM PST US From: TeamGrumman@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: For Grumman owners and/or pilots @ Gustine Airport Barbeque 3O1 --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com Hey, sounds like fun. Might be more fun than Quincy. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:24:13 AM PST US From: Bruce Smith Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AA-2 --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Bruce Smith Ned, Thanks. Wiki is where I found the reference. Bruce On Sep 24, 2005, at 12:02 AM, 923te wrote: > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "923te" <923te@cox.net> > > David Fletcher has pictures of the AA2 . Maybe you could email him > after the > Rita... Here is some nfo on the net: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Aviation_AA-2_Patriot > > > American Aviation AA-2 Patriot > From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. > The American Aviation AA-2 Patriot was a prototype four seat, all > metal > aircraft that was developed in 1970-71 by American Aviation of > Cleveland > Ohio. > > [edit] > Development > After the market success of the AA-1 Yankee Clipper American > Aviation turned > their attention to developing a four seat aircraft. The American > engineers > started with a clean sheet of paper and designed a new aircraft. This > aircraft was intended to be produced as the American Aviation AA-2 > Patriot. > > The AA-2 was quite different from the AA-1 in that it had doors > instead of > the Yankees trademark sliding canopy and an oleo in place of the > Yankees > spring steel tube nose gear. The aircraft had provisions for > retractable > gear to be installed on a later version, although the prototype had > fixed > landing gear. The AA-2 was powered by a 180 hp (134 kW) Lycoming > engine. > > The prototype, registered N488AA, was completed in 1971 and test > flying was > commenced early in that same year. Aircraft performance during the > test > flying process fell far short of the design goals so the project was > abandoned and the prototype eventually scrapped > > Specifications (AA-2 Patriot) > > General characteristics > Crew: 1 pilot > Capacity: 3 passengers > Length: 23 ft 3 in (7.09 m) > Wingspan: 30 ft 0 in (9.6 m) > Height: ft in (2.4 m) > Wing area: ft (13 m) > Empty: lb ( kg) > Maximum takeoff: 2400 lb (1089 kg) > Powerplant: 1 Lycoming O-360-A1A, 180 hp (134 kW) > > Performance > Maximum speed: 155 mph (248 km/h) > Range: 710 miles (1,136 km) > Service ceiling: ft ( m) > Rate of climb: ft/min ( m/min) > Wing loading: lb/ft ( kg/m) > Power/mass: hp/lb ( kW/kg) > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:40 AM PST US From: "Larry Matteo" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AA-2 --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Larry Matteo" Bruce, The remains of the AA-2 Patriot are available for inspection at Geauga County (7G8) in a small shed east of the T-hangars. The plane was donated to Cleveland's Aviation High School when the Grumman plant was in the process of moving to Savannah. It was brought to Geauga County as scrap from the school after they were done with whatever they did with it. I have seen it and recognize it as the Patriot, which sat in the weeds outside the paint shop after the development of the Traveler. I also let officials of AYA know it exists, in case someone wanted to preserve a small piece of 'Yankee' history, but no one seemed to care. Larry Matteo Cleveland paint shop supervisor ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:25 AM PST US From: FLYaDIVE@AOL.COM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: ANY FLY-INs? --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com Hey Guys: It is too nice a day to be sitting on the ground. Any thing happening in the Mid-Atlantic or NE Area? How about a GOOD Breakfast, is New Garden (N57) cooking? Barry "Chop'd Liver" ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:31:42 AM PST US From: TeamGrumman@AOL.COM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AA-2 --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com In a message dated 9/24/05 4:57:22 AM, larrymatteo@sbcglobal.net writes: > The remains of the AA-2 Patriot are available for inspection at Geauga > County (7G8) in a=A0 small shed east of the T-hangars. > > is the plane still there? and, if yes, Where is Geauga County? What state? Is it for sale? It would be a cool artifact to keep. Gary ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:34:33 AM PST US From: TeamGrumman@AOL.COM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: ANY FLY-INs? --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com There are several in California... ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:36:16 AM PST US From: TeamGrumman@AOL.COM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Linn --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com Thanks for the plug on the GG ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:55 PM PST US From: "Larry Matteo" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AA-2 --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Larry Matteo" Gary, The plane, or at least most of it, was there earlier this year. The authorities of the Geauga County Airport aren't sure who it belongs to because it's been around so long. 7G8 is in Middlefield, Ohio, 28 miles east of Cleveland. Larry Matteo Cleveland paint shop supervisor