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1. 01:22 AM - Re: What's Close to Alameda? (WILLIAM KELLY)
2. 06:38 AM - Re: Air Filters (flyv35b)
3. 06:41 AM - Air Filter (Brian Sandberg)
4. 10:13 AM - Re: Air Filters (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
5. 10:17 AM - Re: Air Filter (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
6. 01:22 PM - Re: Air Filter (Scott Boyce)
7. 04:11 PM - Re: Air Filters (flyv35b)
8. 11:02 PM - Re: Air Filters (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
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| Subject: | Re: What's Close to Alameda? |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "WILLIAM KELLY" <v1rotate@verizon.net>
Steven,
Kaiser Air in Oakland. Nice people and they can get you a rental car on the
spot.
Bill Kelly
> Anyone from the San Fran area recommend the best airport to use if I'm
> going
> to Alameda, CA? Hayward?
>
>
> Steve Jackson
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
> Last week, I did an annual on a Tiger that had an automotive air filter in
> it. I would think that there should be some kind of legal liability,
> but, the
> mechanic never entered anything in the logs saying the air filter was
> changed.
> No enties at all in the engine logs back to 2000.
> -----------
>
> Today. I took out an air filter that was decomposing. Pieces of the foam
> element were plastered against the screen on the inlet to the carb. I
> can only
> inagine the pieces that got but the screen. According to the logs, Cliff
> Hanson installed it in 2001. Some 700+ hours ago. The annuals since
> then are
> so vague and incomplete that, for all practical purposes, they are
> meaningless.
This sounds very much like an accusation about the quality of work that I
do! First off, I have never installed an automotive air filter or a non
approved aircraft filter in any plane I have worked on. I seriously doubt
if this is the same filter that I installed anyway. As a general rule I
replace the air filter every year or every 100 hrs if that comes first and
have never found a Brackett foam filter that had the foam deteriorated in
any way. Gary, you might be so kind as to let me know specifically what
aircraft it is that you are talking about.
> The owner had done the last oil change. The safety wire had about 2
> inches
> of loose wire and was tied to the wrong side.
>
> All of the hoses and wires are, it appears, routed to intentionally make
> ANY
> maintenance as difficult as possible. The oil cooler hoses are plumbed
> to
> the wrong side of the oil cooler. The fuel hoses are plumbed to the
> right side
> of the carb as opposed to the left side. The fuel flow transducer was
> mounted wrong. The prop was installed wrong. The plane is filthy.
> There is
> oil and dirt everywhere.
Is there a correct side to route the fuel to the HA-6 carburetor on a Tiger?
I think not. The inlet port is designed such that fuel can enter either
side and then flow through the inlet screen. As it was plumbed from the
factory the hose entered the LH side and a plug was inserted on the RH side.
But this can be reversed and fuel can be routed from the pump through the
flow transducer mounted beneath the carburetor and then out and up to the RH
side.
> The owners don't appear to care what kind of maintenance and attention
> this
> plane is given as long as it's cheap. The owners, all three of them,
> don't
> appear to be too concerned for their safety.
Who signed off on the last annual inspection? This doesn't sound like an
airplane that I worked on. Sounds like it has had little or no maintenance
for quite awhile or incorrect owner performed work.
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Brian Sandberg" <sandbag23@msn.com>
Was the automotive filter the orange K&N approved with an STC from
Challenger Air? I put one in and saw slightly increased performance. It's
good for several years and cleanings, and when it wears out can be replaced
with the off the shelf K&N of propper size.
-Brian
N119ST
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 10/8/05 6:39:17 AM, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com writes:
> This sounds very much like an accusation about the quality of work that I
> do!=A0 First off, I have never installed an automotive air filter or a non
> approved aircraft filter in any plane I have worked on.=A0
>
Oh, for Christs sake Cliff read the f*cking email. I said the last filter
was changed by you. You haven't done an annual on it since then. As for=20the
auto filter, I never even implied that you worked on it.
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 10/8/05 6:42:44 AM, sandbag23@msn.com writes:
> Was the automotive filter the orange K&N approved with an STC from
> Challenger Air?=A0 I put one in and saw slightly increased performance.=A0 It's
> good for several years and cleanings, and when it wears out can be replaced
> with the off the shelf K&N of propper size.
>
It was the same size. It was a paper element filter, not the same as the K&
N. Someone had to really research the size to find one that fit. The only
car that filter comes on (or fits) is a slant six Plymouth/Dodge.
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Scott Boyce" <tscott165@cableone.net>
What is a K&N filter?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Sandberg" <sandbag23@msn.com>
<teamgrumman-list-digest@matronics.com>
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Air Filter
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Brian Sandberg"
<sandbag23@msn.com>
>
> Was the automotive filter the orange K&N approved with an STC from
> Challenger Air? I put one in and saw slightly increased performance.
It's
> good for several years and cleanings, and when it wears out can be
replaced
> with the off the shelf K&N of propper size.
>
> -Brian
> N119ST
>
>
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: <TeamGrumman@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Air Filters
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 10/8/05 6:39:17 AM, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com
> writes:
>
>
>> This sounds very much like an accusation about the quality of work that I
>> do!=A0 First off, I have never installed an automotive air filter or a
>> non
>> approved aircraft filter in any plane I have worked on.=A0
>>
>
> Oh, for Christs sake Cliff read the f*cking email. I said the last
> filter
> was changed by you. You haven't done an annual on it since then. As
> for=20the
> auto filter, I never even implied that you worked on it.
>
I did read the email. Here's what you said:
"Today. I took out an air filter that was decomposing. Pieces of the foam
element were plastered against the screen on the inlet to the carb. I can
only inagine the pieces that got but the screen. According to the logs,
Cliff Hanson installed it in 2001."
Don't know what your definition of the word "it" is, but one would assume
that "it" refers to the decomposing filter you removed - that I installed in
2001.
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 10/8/05 4:12:00 PM, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com writes:
> Don't know what your definition of the word "it" is, but one would assume
> that "it" refers to the decomposing filter you removed - that I installed in
> 2001.
>
Yes, and in the 3 or 4 annuals since then, no one has changed it again.
Cliff, the work you do is great. Those that did work after you, work that is
sub-par, DOES NOT REFLECT ON YOU IN THE LEAST.
Hell, for all anyone knows, it hasn't had anything more than a paper annual
since you looked at it.
What we do know is, the foam element filter will not last 4 years and 700
hours.
Lighten up, Cliff. Go eat some chocolate.
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