---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/11/05: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:12 AM - Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 10/10/05 (Neitalibelle@aol.com) 2. 11:30 AM - Santa Rosa, October 29th (Neitalibelle@AOL.COM) 3. 05:26 PM - Oil Cooler (Dave) 4. 05:55 PM - Re: Oil Cooler (Rick Lindstrom) 5. 11:43 PM - My Bendix drive is messing up... (GOLDPILOT@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:12:02 AM PST US From: Neitalibelle@aol.com Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 10/10/05 --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Neitalibelle@aol.com Looking for a Terra Transponder, the small one. Need it for my glider. Neita ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:32 AM PST US From: Neitalibelle@AOL.COM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Santa Rosa, October 29th --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Neitalibelle@aol.com Plan on flying in to Santa Rosa for an AYA day. Arrive 11 or so for lunch at restaurant on field. We'll then go to see my fah-in-law's C-1A. It is not yet flyable. The pilot who crashed in Tennessee was Vance who flew out of Santa Rosa, was a friend of my fah-in-law and was the chase plane for the Reno Air Races. Thoughts from me as a glider pilot: the highway is the worse place to try to land an airplane. I'm not second guessing the pilot as he may not have had many options given the terrain and trees in Tennessee. But would like to suggest, here in the West, brown plowed fields, dry lake beds (land near the edges, the whitest area you can see), crop circles (avoiding the sprinklers) going for the ones which are not being cultivated (brown), dirt roads near mines. But be careful as dirt roads often have stakes along the side of them. Would enjoy further discussion of this issue. Neita Montague, Reno, NV ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:07 PM PST US From: "Dave" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Oil Cooler --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Dave" My tiger oil temp runs 190-200 degrees and I am curious if there is a recommended cleaning process for the oil cooler to insure max cooling?? Total time is only 325 hours but the aircraft was idle for many years. The engine was torn down and inspected but the oil cooler was not touched and I am wondering if it could be partially clogged. Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks, Dave McKnight ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:17 PM PST US From: Rick Lindstrom Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Oil Cooler --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Rick Lindstrom Hi, Dave! I've used Drake Air in Tulsa (918.445.3545) to overhaul my Tiger's S/W oil cooler, and repair a subsequent weep. Very, very nice people and reasonably priced - the overhaul, including overnight freight, was $161. In my somewhat learned opinion, an oil temp around 190 really isn't bad. It needs to get above 180 to get the moisture held in suspension to gas out, otherwise the water will stay in the oil. Last spring, I ferried a 152 from Salt Lake City to Northern California, and it hadn't flown much during the winter. Upon landing at Wendover, after the oil had finally gotten up to temperature, I was amazed at how much water pooled on the ramp underneath the breather. Easily over a cup. The vernatherm valve in your O-360 should open at 180 degrees, allowing oil to flow through the cooler. Have you checked it? I've had a few in two different Tigers that got old and stuck, only opening partially or sticking open not allowing the oil to get up to normal operating temperature. According to Bruce Bohannon's crew chief, it's not unusual for oil temps to hit 240 during the Flying Tiger's record setting attempts. But this is higher than what you'd want for continuous operation, I remember reading that 260 is about the limit for most modern aviation oils. After that, their ability to lubricate is severely compromised. Hope this helps. Best, Rick Lindstrom Dave wrote: >--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Dave" > >My tiger oil temp runs 190-200 degrees and I am curious if there is a recommended cleaning process for the oil cooler to insure max cooling?? Total time is only 325 hours but the aircraft was idle for many years. The engine was torn down and inspected but the oil cooler was not touched and I am wondering if it could be partially clogged. > >Any advice will be appreciated. > >Thanks, >Dave McKnight > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:08 PM PST US From: GOLDPILOT@aol.com Subject: TeamGrumman-List: My Bendix drive is messing up... --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: GOLDPILOT@aol.com Hi Gary et al: The Bendix drive is not engaging (intermittently) when I push the start button. Sometimes it takes two or three pushes to engage. It always disengages properly. I can squirt oil in it but that is only temporary. I have several choices....... 1) remove Bendix drive, clean, lube and re-install 2) Buy a new drive for about $60 bucks 3) buy another Prestolite starter (not that anxious to do this) 4) buy one of the lightweight ones. But which one? B&C, Skytek, Lamar........there are several "good" ones on the market. Waddaya think? David