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1. 07:00 PM - Cowling Carbon Fiber Shortage (923te)
2. 07:22 PM - Re: Cowling Carbon Fiber Shortage (FLYaDIVE@aol.com)
3. 10:38 PM - (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
4. 10:44 PM - (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
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| Subject: | Cowling Carbon Fiber Shortage |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "923te" <923te@cox.net>
Hi Gary,
Have you heard anything about a Carbon Fiber Shortage? I copied a news
release below.
Will this affect your cowls? Are they still gong to be Carbon Fiber?
Did you get my message about your cowls on your cell phone?
Later,
Ned
Carbon Fiber Shortage Update
Last Update: 12/13/05
The current international carbon fiber shortage is a result of increased
consumption by the aerospace industry and a shortage of raw carbon fiber.
Military orders are being filled before any commercial orders and the
shortage has created hording which has additionally magnified the shortages.
Since the summer of 2005, supply has been increasingly erratic and some
customers are not getting shipments at all.
Fibre Glast Developments is still getting shipments but we are not getting
them reliably. We are not learning of incoming shipments until a day or two
before they arrive. Although we pride ourselves on being able to make
promises of accurate Expected Dates of backordered items, we can not make
promises about carbon availability.
The best way for a customer to obtain supply is to get on our quote list.
When material arrives, we will allocate it based on the order in which the
quote arrived. We will contact you and you will have the option to purchase
the material at that time.
We apologize to our many customers who have built successful businesses
fabricating carbon fiber and hybrid materials in a variety of industries.
This shortage is threatening the very existence of many of you. We are
honoring our long term customers as best we can. This has been very harmful
to our business as well.
Presently, we have 50 plain weave in stock and a little of the red hybrid.
We expect to see some twill and additional hybrids by the end of January but
we are still without a firm promise date by our weavers.
Our best information is that this shortage is going to last throughout 2006.
We will keep you updated with the latest information as it becomes
available.
http://www.fibreglast.com/carbonfiberpage12-05
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling Carbon Fiber Shortage |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com
In a message dated 12/13/05 10:01:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, 923te@cox.net
writes:
> Hi Gary,
>
> Have you heard anything about a Carbon Fiber Shortage? I copied a news
> release below.
>
> Will this affect your cowls? Are they still gong to be Carbon Fiber?
>
> Did you get my message about your cowls on your cell phone?
>
> Later,
> Ned
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Ned:
Carbon Fiber will absorb moisture. It should be kept in a warm dry area. Or
baked before use 250 - 350 Deg F for 2 hours.
It should also be kept lying flat or hanging. No tight coils or heavy weight
place on them. They will splinter.
Barry
"Chop'd Liver"
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
Hi Ned, yes I did get your message. To be honest, I forgot all about the
call. I am making the STC for either material so that I can make either.
Right now, they are going to be made out of fiberglass. Carbon would add about
$1000 to the material cost.
if you want a cowling (or two) send in some deposits. Once the STC is
approved, I need to raise the cost to recover my costs over about a five year
period. I figure that most of the planes getting the cowling will have them
within 5 years. I sold 300 eyebrows in the first 2 years. I average about 4
a
year now. I'm still amazed at how many people have never heard of them or
seen one.
If you want a carbon fiber cowling, I can make one for you.
Gary
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 12/13/05 7:23:21 PM, FLYaDIVE@aol.com writes:
> Carbon Fiber will absorb moisture.=A0 It should be kept in a warm dry area.=A0
> Or
> baked before use 250 - 350 Deg F for 2 hours.
> It should also be kept lying flat or hanging.=A0 No tight coils or heavy
> weight
> place on them.=A0 They will splinter.
>
we would be using pre-preg. It has to be refrigerated.
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