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1. 09:18 AM - Re: Cowling: Hole (Vi Bui)
2. 10:52 AM - Re: Cowling: Hole (The Sign Guys)
3. 12:06 PM - Re: Cowling: Hole (Steve Roberts)
4. 01:41 PM - Re: Cowling: Hole (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
5. 01:53 PM - yokes (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
6. 01:53 PM - Yokes was for AA1BFlyBoy (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
7. 01:57 PM - Re: Cowling: Hole (The Sign Guys)
8. 04:38 PM - Cowling: Hole & Fairings (923te)
9. 05:32 PM - Re: Cowling: Hole (bhauskne@san.rr.com)
10. 07:55 PM - Re: Cowling: Hole (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
11. 07:59 PM - Re: yokes (Steve Roberts)
12. 11:24 PM - Re: yokes (923te)
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling: Hole |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Vi Bui <vbui88@gmail.com>
Thanks Gary. Can't wait!
-Vi
On 12/27/05, TeamGrumman@aol.com <TeamGrumman@aol.com> wrote:
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
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> Vi, good news, I was in Lancaster, no that not the good news, the good news
> is that I watched Dave laying up the first hole. It looks a lot more complex
> than I expected. He is going to send it to me to see if it'll fit into the
> cowling. If it does, then I'll send it to you.
>
> Gary
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling: Hole |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "The Sign Guys" <avsigns@ccinternet.net>
What is this cowling hole you are talking about? Did I miss a post, or it
in reply to something else?
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: <TeamGrumman@aol.com>
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Cowling: Hole
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
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> Vi, good news, I was in Lancaster, no that not the good news, the good
news
> is that I watched Dave laying up the first hole. It looks a lot more
complex
> than I expected. He is going to send it to me to see if it'll fit into
the
> cowling. If it does, then I'll send it to you.
>
> Gary
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling: Hole |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steve Roberts" <aa1bflyboy@msn.com>
I find this list gives me posts like this quite frequently. It's like they
fly-in out of a wormhole somewhere with no idea what it is refering to. My
guess is it's being sent to the list inadvertantly by Gary.
"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow
in Australia." (Charles Schultz)
Steve Roberts
AA-1B N9664L @ ILG
----Original Message Follows----
From: "The Sign Guys" <avsigns@ccinternet.net>
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cowling: Hole
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "The Sign Guys"
<avsigns@ccinternet.net>
What is this cowling hole you are talking about? Did I miss a post, or it
in reply to something else?
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: <TeamGrumman@aol.com>
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Cowling: Hole
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
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> Vi, good news, I was in Lancaster, no that not the good news, the good
news
> is that I watched Dave laying up the first hole. It looks a lot more
complex
> than I expected. He is going to send it to me to see if it'll fit into
the
> cowling. If it does, then I'll send it to you.
>
> Gary
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling: Hole |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
I was hoping that would get something going on TeamGrumman.
I installed the short stack PowerFlow on Vi's plane. To close out the hole
where the stock pipe fit through, I had Dave make tooling for the hole. It
turned out to be a hell of a lot of work. First, he had to make a mold of the
inside of my cowling, then shape it to the contour of the cowling, then, make
a piece that fit over the outside, then, make and inside piece thta had the
correct contour, then, make a male out of that, then make the female.
When done, I'll have a plug to fill the hole in the cowling so everyone can
install the new Short Stack PowerFlow and have something to fill the hole.
Also, I'm making a fairing to go behind the short stack that should add up to
20 knots!.
Gary
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
if you want a set of drilled yokes, I have a set of yokes that are drilled
and powder coated in black wrinkle. Both are drilled. These yokes came off
of a plane in exchange for a set of drilled yokes I had at the time. These
yokes are nice except that at one time, they had a PTT installed on the hub.
There are two tiny holes in the hub area that held a flat plate to which the
PTT had been isntalled. With the padded cover in place, you cannot see the
holes. I'll sell the set, drilled, and powder coated, for $100 plus shipping.
Shipping is probably no more than $10.
Gary
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| Subject: | Yokes was for AA1BFlyBoy |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling: Hole |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "The Sign Guys" <avsigns@ccinternet.net>
Gary,
You stated,
"Also, I'm making a fairing to go behind the short stack that should add
up to
20 knots!."
That's not bad, but it probably isn't worth the effort for anything less
than 30 knots. Whats the scoop on the hole plug availability and pricing?
What does it fit? Keep us in the "loop".
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: <TeamGrumman@aol.com>
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cowling: Hole
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
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> I was hoping that would get something going on TeamGrumman.
>
> I installed the short stack PowerFlow on Vi's plane. To close out the
hole
> where the stock pipe fit through, I had Dave make tooling for the hole.
It
> turned out to be a hell of a lot of work. First, he had to make a mold
of the
> inside of my cowling, then shape it to the contour of the cowling, then,
make
> a piece that fit over the outside, then, make and inside piece thta had
the
> correct contour, then, make a male out of that, then make the female.
>
> When done, I'll have a plug to fill the hole in the cowling so everyone
can
> install the new Short Stack PowerFlow and have something to fill the hole.
>
> Also, I'm making a fairing to go behind the short stack that should add up
to
> 20 knots!.
>
> Gary
>
>
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| Subject: | Cowling: Hole & Fairings |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "923te" <923te@cox.net>
Gee Gary,
I just glassed my old exhaust stack hole in. Made a back plate form out of
beer cans. Put plastic tape over it to act as a mold release and laid up
some 3 layers of 9oz bi-directional cloth. Took about 3 hours time.
But then I did build a composite plane once...
Please put me down for 2 of the JATO equipped fairings.;-) I need that extra
20 knots!
Ned
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <TeamGrumman@aol.com>
> To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cowling: Hole
>
>
>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
>>
>> I was hoping that would get something going on TeamGrumman.
>>
>> I installed the short stack PowerFlow on Vi's plane. To close out the
> hole
>> where the stock pipe fit through, I had Dave make tooling for the hole.
> It
>> turned out to be a hell of a lot of work. First, he had to make a mold
> of the
>> inside of my cowling, then shape it to the contour of the cowling, then,
> make
>> a piece that fit over the outside, then, make and inside piece thta had
> the
>> correct contour, then, make a male out of that, then make the female.
>>
>> When done, I'll have a plug to fill the hole in the cowling so everyone
> can
>> install the new Short Stack PowerFlow and have something to fill the
>> hole.
>>
>> Also, I'm making a fairing to go behind the short stack that should add
>> up
> to
>> 20 knots!.
>>
>> Gary
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling: Hole |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "bhauskne@san.rr.com" <bhauskne@san.rr.com>
Uh oh...at $1,000 per knot, that's a $20,000 fairing. But hell, anything
to beat Kokaska's plane....
=================
Also, I'm making a fairing to go behind the short stack that should add up
to
20 knots!.
Gary
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling: Hole |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 12/28/05 1:58:08 PM, avsigns@ccinternet.net writes:
> That's not bad, but it probably isn't worth the effort for anything less
> than 30 knots.=A0 Whats the scoop on the hole plug availability and pricing?
> What does it fit?=A0 Keep us in the "loop".
>
>
I'm not sure what the 'hole' story is on the hole, just yet. The piece that
I watched Dave making was 7 layers thick. Way overkill. Dave wanted to
make a part that I/we could use to trial fit a few times. There is a good
chance it will need to be custom fitted to Vi's plane. I'll know more once the
part gets here. I'll keepp youall informed.
Gary
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steve Roberts" <aa1bflyboy@msn.com>
Gary for the same money I can buy new covers for the yokes from ACS which
include the switches.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/catalog/Cat06161.pdf
"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow
in Australia." (Charles Schultz)
Steve Roberts
AA-1B N9664L @ ILG
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
if you want a set of drilled yokes, I have a set of yokes that are drilled
and powder coated in black wrinkle. Both are drilled. These yokes came
off
of a plane in exchange for a set of drilled yokes I had at the time. These
yokes are nice except that at one time, they had a PTT installed on the hub.
There are two tiny holes in the hub area that held a flat plate to which the
PTT had been isntalled. With the padded cover in place, you cannot see the
holes. I'll sell the set, drilled, and powder coated, for $100 plus
shipping.
Shipping is probably no more than $10.
Gary
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "923te" <923te@cox.net>
Steve,
Good luck getting the ACS control wheel and good luck getting it approved by the
FAA. There was an AD issued recently on Pipers and the Piper owners bought
up the stock on the ACS wheel and as I understand there is no new stock coming.
In Addition, several Piper chat group members mentioned that their FSDO's would
not approve the ACS wheel. Also, it is $197.50 for P/N 05-00965 While the
ACS Bonanza Yoke is $585.5 inc install kit. That is each. You might want to
give ACS a call to verify this before you loose out on Gary's offer...
If someone here does not NEED Gary's yokes I may buy them just 'cause they are
so cheap. I think The fellow in Washington charges $85 per yoke just to drill
them for mic switches!
Best Regards,
Ned
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Roberts" <aa1bflyboy@msn.com>
Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: yokes
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steve Roberts" <aa1bflyboy@msn.com>
>
> Gary for the same money I can buy new covers for the yokes from ACS which
> include the switches.
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/catalog/Cat06161.pdf
>
> "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow
> in Australia." (Charles Schultz)
> Steve Roberts
> AA-1B N9664L @ ILG
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
>
> if you want a set of drilled yokes, I have a set of yokes that are drilled
> and powder coated in black wrinkle. Both are drilled. These yokes came
> off
> of a plane in exchange for a set of drilled yokes I had at the time. These
> yokes are nice except that at one time, they had a PTT installed on the hub.
> There are two tiny holes in the hub area that held a flat plate to which the
> PTT had been isntalled. With the padded cover in place, you cannot see the
> holes. I'll sell the set, drilled, and powder coated, for $100 plus
> shipping.
> Shipping is probably no more than $10.
>
> Gary
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