---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/29/05: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:29 AM - Re: yokes (TeamGrumman@aol.com) 2. 01:31 AM - Re: yokes (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM) 3. 11:30 AM - Re: yokes (Steve Roberts) 4. 01:48 PM - Re: yokes (923te) 5. 03:34 PM - Re: yokes (Steve Roberts) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:29:29 AM PST US From: TeamGrumman@aol.com Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: yokes --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com In a message dated 12/28/05 11:25:12 PM, 923te@cox.net writes: > If someone here does not NEED Gary's yokes I may buy them just 'cause they > are so cheap. I think The fellow in Washington charges $85 per yoke just to > drill them for mic switches! > I charge Fletcher $25/yoke to drill them. These are also cross drilled so, if you want, you can run the wire down the shaft. It costs me $50 to have them powder coated. Gary ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:31:43 AM PST US From: TeamGrumman@AOL.COM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: yokes --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com In a message dated 12/28/05 8:00:15 PM, aa1bflyboy@msn.com writes: > Gary for the same money I can buy new covers for the yokes from ACS which > include the switches. > the switches that come in these are tiny, cheap, llittle switches. They hurt your PTT finger. Trust me, I know there are a lot of ways to make flying cheaper. I see it everyday. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:25 AM PST US From: "Steve Roberts" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: yokes --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steve Roberts" Gary and Ned, my partner and I have desided to go with the ACS parts. Thanks for the offer Gary but the description of the ACS control yoke upgrade P/N 05-16635 and 05-16610 will get me into a nice looking pair of yokes and pads with no removal of the existing yoke for $99.50 and $42.50 respectivly (under $150 incl switches). I had no idea powder coating was so expensive. The description of the ACS grips also say "pilot instalable". The way I read that is I'm just replacing an old worn out switch with one that attaches differently than the velcro ones. No A&P sign off should be needed. Of course I'll confirm that with my A&P. I called ACS and they are in stock. So Ned if you want Gary's powder coated yokes feel free to take them off his hands. No hard feelings. My partner and I are getting old and want the cushioned grips. BTW, Ned you are correct in that the part you quoted is O/S and will no longer be produced. "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." (Charles Schultz) Steve Roberts AA-1B N9664L @ ILG ----Original Message Follows---- From: "923te" <923te@cox.net> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: yokes --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "923te" <923te@cox.net> Steve, Good luck getting the ACS control wheel and good luck getting it approved by the FAA. There was an AD issued recently on Pipers and the Piper owners bought up the stock on the ACS wheel and as I understand there is no new stock coming. In Addition, several Piper chat group members mentioned that their FSDO's would not approve the ACS wheel. Also, it is $197.50 for P/N 05-00965 While the ACS Bonanza Yoke is $585.5 inc install kit. That is each. You might want to give ACS a call to verify this before you loose out on Gary's offer... If someone here does not NEED Gary's yokes I may buy them just 'cause they are so cheap. I think The fellow in Washington charges $85 per yoke just to drill them for mic switches! Best Regards, Ned ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Roberts" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: yokes > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steve Roberts" > > Gary for the same money I can buy new covers for the yokes from ACS which > include the switches. > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/catalog/Cat06161.pdf > > "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow > in Australia." (Charles Schultz) > Steve Roberts > AA-1B N9664L @ ILG > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com > > if you want a set of drilled yokes, I have a set of yokes that are drilled > and powder coated in black wrinkle. Both are drilled. These yokes came > off > of a plane in exchange for a set of drilled yokes I had at the time. These > yokes are nice except that at one time, they had a PTT installed on the hub. > There are two tiny holes in the hub area that held a flat plate to which the > PTT had been isntalled. With the padded cover in place, you cannot see the > holes. I'll sell the set, drilled, and powder coated, for $100 plus > shipping. > Shipping is probably no more than $10. > > Gary ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:48:14 PM PST US From: "923te" <923te@cox.net> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: yokes --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "923te" <923te@cox.net> You mikght want to take a look at Gregoir yoke covers. I did not notice that you were talking about yoke covers. And they di have their advantages. I have used Gregoir covers before and they are very nuce even come in leather with PTT switches. He advertises in the AYA: http://www.warrengregoire.com/aviation-leathercontrolyokecovers.htm http://www.warrengregoire.com/aviation-slipongrips.htm Best Regards, Ned ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Roberts" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: yokes > Gary and Ned, my partner and I have desided to go with the ACS parts. > Thanks for the offer Gary but the description of the ACS control yoke > upgrade P/N 05-16635 and 05-16610 will get me into a nice looking pair of > yokes and pads with no removal of the existing yoke for $99.50 and $42.50 > respectivly (under $150 incl switches). I had no idea powder coating was > so expensive. The description of the ACS grips also say "pilot > instalable". The way I read that is I'm just replacing an old worn out > switch with one that attaches differently than the velcro ones. No A&P > sign off should be needed. Of course I'll confirm that with my A&P. I > called ACS and they are in stock. So Ned if you want Gary's powder coated > yokes feel free to take them off his hands. No hard feelings. My partner > and I are getting old and want the cushioned grips. > > BTW, Ned you are correct in that the part you quoted is O/S and will no > longer be produced. > > "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow > in Australia." (Charles Schultz) > Steve Roberts > AA-1B N9664L @ ILG > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "923te" <923te@cox.net> > Reply-To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > To: > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: yokes > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 01:23:51 -0600 > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "923te" <923te@cox.net> > > Steve, > > Good luck getting the ACS control wheel and good luck getting it approved > by the FAA. There was an AD issued recently on Pipers and the Piper > owners bought up the stock on the ACS wheel and as I understand there is > no new stock coming. In Addition, several Piper chat group members > mentioned that their FSDO's would not approve the ACS wheel. Also, it is > $197.50 for P/N 05-00965 While the ACS Bonanza Yoke is $585.5 inc install > kit. That is each. You might want to give ACS a call to verify this before > you loose out on Gary's offer... > > If someone here does not NEED Gary's yokes I may buy them just 'cause they > are so cheap. I think The fellow in Washington charges $85 per yoke just > to drill them for mic switches! > > Best Regards, > Ned > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Roberts" > To: > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: yokes > > > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steve Roberts" > > > > > Gary for the same money I can buy new covers for the yokes from ACS > > which > > include the switches. > > > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/catalog/Cat06161.pdf > > > > "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already > tomorrow > > in Australia." (Charles Schultz) > > Steve Roberts > > AA-1B N9664L @ ILG > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com > > > > if you want a set of drilled yokes, I have a set of yokes that are > drilled > > and powder coated in black wrinkle. Both are drilled. These yokes > came > > off > > of a plane in exchange for a set of drilled yokes I had at the time. > These > > yokes are nice except that at one time, they had a PTT installed on the > hub. > > There are two tiny holes in the hub area that held a flat plate to which > the > > PTT had been isntalled. With the padded cover in place, you cannot see > the > > holes. I'll sell the set, drilled, and powder coated, for $100 plus > > shipping. > > Shipping is probably no more than $10. > > > > Gary > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:34:12 PM PST US From: "Steve Roberts" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: yokes --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steve Roberts" OK thanks... "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." (Charles Schultz) Steve Roberts AA-1B N9664L @ ILG ----Original Message Follows---- From: "923te" <923te@cox.net> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: yokes --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "923te" <923te@cox.net> You mikght want to take a look at Gregoir yoke covers. I did not notice that you were talking about yoke covers. And they di have their advantages. I have used Gregoir covers before and they are very nuce even come in leather with PTT switches. He advertises in the AYA: http://www.warrengregoire.com/aviation-leathercontrolyokecovers.htm http://www.warrengregoire.com/aviation-slipongrips.htm Best Regards, Ned ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Roberts" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: yokes > Gary and Ned, my partner and I have desided to go with the ACS parts. > Thanks for the offer Gary but the description of the ACS control yoke > upgrade P/N 05-16635 and 05-16610 will get me into a nice looking pair of > yokes and pads with no removal of the existing yoke for $99.50 and $42.50 > respectivly (under $150 incl switches). I had no idea powder coating was > so expensive. The description of the ACS grips also say "pilot > instalable". The way I read that is I'm just replacing an old worn out > switch with one that attaches differently than the velcro ones. No A&P > sign off should be needed. Of course I'll confirm that with my A&P. I > called ACS and they are in stock. So Ned if you want Gary's powder coated > yokes feel free to take them off his hands. No hard feelings. My partner > and I are getting old and want the cushioned grips. > > BTW, Ned you are correct in that the part you quoted is O/S and will no > longer be produced. > > "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow > in Australia." (Charles Schultz) > Steve Roberts > AA-1B N9664L @ ILG > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "923te" <923te@cox.net> > Reply-To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > To: > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: yokes > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 01:23:51 -0600 > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "923te" <923te@cox.net> > > Steve, > > Good luck getting the ACS control wheel and good luck getting it approved > by the FAA. There was an AD issued recently on Pipers and the Piper > owners bought up the stock on the ACS wheel and as I understand there is > no new stock coming. In Addition, several Piper chat group members > mentioned that their FSDO's would not approve the ACS wheel. Also, it is > $197.50 for P/N 05-00965 While the ACS Bonanza Yoke is $585.5 inc install > kit. That is each. You might want to give ACS a call to verify this before > you loose out on Gary's offer... > > If someone here does not NEED Gary's yokes I may buy them just 'cause they > are so cheap. I think The fellow in Washington charges $85 per yoke just > to drill them for mic switches! > > Best Regards, > Ned > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Roberts" > To: > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: yokes > > > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steve Roberts" > > > > > Gary for the same money I can buy new covers for the yokes from ACS > > which > > include the switches. > > > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/catalog/Cat06161.pdf > > > > "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already > tomorrow > > in Australia." (Charles Schultz) > > Steve Roberts > > AA-1B N9664L @ ILG > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com > > > > if you want a set of drilled yokes, I have a set of yokes that are > drilled > > and powder coated in black wrinkle. Both are drilled. These yokes > came > > off > > of a plane in exchange for a set of drilled yokes I had at the time. > These > > yokes are nice except that at one time, they had a PTT installed on the > hub. > > There are two tiny holes in the hub area that held a flat plate to which > the > > PTT had been isntalled. With the padded cover in place, you cannot see > the > > holes. I'll sell the set, drilled, and powder coated, for $100 plus > > shipping. > > Shipping is probably no more than $10. > > > > Gary > > > > > >