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1. 02:34 PM - Tiger Cowling for Sale (TeamGrumman@aol.com)
2. 05:33 PM - Re: 76 Tiger for Sale (Richard Mutzman)
3. 05:45 PM - Re: 76 Tiger For Sale (Davie Alison)
4. 07:53 PM - Re: Re: 76 Tiger for Sale (Walt Beaulieu)
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Subject: | Tiger Cowling for Sale |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
Well, since it looks like I'm not going to be needing my cowling any more, I
think it's a good time to sell it.
I have a '78 Tiger cowling with about 1150 TT on it, complete, upper, lower,
and nose bowl. The upper cowling is in extremely good condition. The lower
cowling has a dent, very slight dent, on the bottom, from removing and
installing it over the years. It can be fixed by splitting the lower cowling
and
adding a double along the center for the nut plates. The landing light resess
in the nose bowl has a 2 inch wide section removed so the Hi-Torque Sky-Tec
starter would fit. It can be easily repaired.
I'm asking $4,500 for the entire cowling. (Keep in mind that a LoPresti
nose bowl is $3000)
Gary
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Subject: | Re: 76 Tiger for Sale |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Richard Mutzman" <rcmutz@msn.com>
I have watched Tiger and Cheetah prices via the web for the last 3-4 years.
It is pretty amazing what some of the "asking" prices are. I wonder what
some of these planes with mid-time engines, 3000 TT, Narco avionics,
original paint/interior are REALLY going for. Seems like the Grumman Tiger
owners are living in la la land....of course...you all know how the saying
goes....a fool born everyday...
I guess if I spent $15K on new avionics, I'd want $15K back too ..... as
soon as they are put in the airplane they are used and worth about 85% of
the purchased price. Of course new paint is only worth about 80%. The only
thing that is close to a 100% is an engine overhaul up to about 400 hrs and
then it begins to loose value as well.
Richard Mutzman
AA5A
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Subject: | 76 Tiger For Sale |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Davie Alison <guy4sky@yahoo.com>
Sure, I'll give you what Bill just hopes to get for his!
James Courtney <jamey@jamescourtney.net> wrote:
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney"
Can't we all just get along and someone buy my plane;)
Jamey
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flyv35b
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b"
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Hey, I didn't set the price and I'm not trying to sell it at that price of
justify the price. Personally, I think it is to high also, but not $20K to
high, more like $10K.
While we are throwing numbers around, you could do a good engine overhaul
for $20K firewall forward - the hoses don't need to be replaced and the
baffling doesn't need much work. The plane was repainted in 97 and $5000
would do a pretty decent interior. The KX-155/GS is useable as a 2nd
Nav/Com as well as the GX55 GPS, so another $10K would buy a used Garmin 530
and result in pretty nice avionics. That's $35K on top of $50K say for a
total of $85K. How does that compare to Jamey's Tiger at $97K with 1000
SMOH on the engine, albeit new cylinders? Obviously, the 76 model year and
4000 TT is a factor, but most of that time has been cross country flying.
Probably no more landings than a 1000 hr plane that is used for instruction
and rental.
Cliff
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Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
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> In a message dated 4/8/06 8:24:08 AM, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com
> writes:
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>> A good friend of mine (Bill Marvel) is selling his 1976 Tiger after
>> 29
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> It's about $15 to $20K too much for it's current condition. High time
> airframe, High time engine, outdated/obsolete avionics. For 35 to 40K it
> would be
> a good first plane for someone. The interior looks original. A 76 has
> no
> corrosion proofing in the wings and it probably has purple glue.
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> FWF alone would cost about 20K for Bill's plane. With a new engine, it
> still isn't worth 80K with over 4000 TT on the airframe and basic
> avionics.
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> I bought my Tiger 18 months ago for 60K. 1115 TTAF/E, painted in '97,
> basic
> avionics, autopilot. prices haven't gone up that much, if at all.
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> Jamey is asking $97,000 for his '79 Tiger with 1000 TTAF, new Lycoming
> cylinders prepared by LyCon, new paint, leather interior, full Garmin
> avionics
> stack.
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> Gary
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Subject: | Re: 76 Tiger for Sale |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Walt Beaulieu <aviation@acs-group.net>
Oh I disagree on that point. My experience has been that selling a plane
that is near overhaul will leave you more net money in your pocket
than doing an overhaul and then selling.....Every time. You have to fly
out the value of a new engine or eat it.
Richard Mutzman wrote:
>--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Richard Mutzman" <rcmutz@msn.com>
>The only thing that is close to a 100% is an engine overhaul up to about 400 hrs
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Richard Mutzman
>AA5A
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