---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 04/09/06: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:34 PM - Tiger Cowling for Sale (TeamGrumman@aol.com) 2. 05:33 PM - Re: 76 Tiger for Sale (Richard Mutzman) 3. 05:45 PM - Re: 76 Tiger For Sale (Davie Alison) 4. 07:53 PM - Re: Re: 76 Tiger for Sale (Walt Beaulieu) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:34:32 PM PST US From: TeamGrumman@aol.com Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger Cowling for Sale --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com Well, since it looks like I'm not going to be needing my cowling any more, I think it's a good time to sell it. I have a '78 Tiger cowling with about 1150 TT on it, complete, upper, lower, and nose bowl. The upper cowling is in extremely good condition. The lower cowling has a dent, very slight dent, on the bottom, from removing and installing it over the years. It can be fixed by splitting the lower cowling and adding a double along the center for the nut plates. The landing light resess in the nose bowl has a 2 inch wide section removed so the Hi-Torque Sky-Tec starter would fit. It can be easily repaired. I'm asking $4,500 for the entire cowling. (Keep in mind that a LoPresti nose bowl is $3000) Gary ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:33:30 PM PST US From: "Richard Mutzman" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: 76 Tiger for Sale --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Richard Mutzman" I have watched Tiger and Cheetah prices via the web for the last 3-4 years. It is pretty amazing what some of the "asking" prices are. I wonder what some of these planes with mid-time engines, 3000 TT, Narco avionics, original paint/interior are REALLY going for. Seems like the Grumman Tiger owners are living in la la land....of course...you all know how the saying goes....a fool born everyday... I guess if I spent $15K on new avionics, I'd want $15K back too ..... as soon as they are put in the airplane they are used and worth about 85% of the purchased price. Of course new paint is only worth about 80%. The only thing that is close to a 100% is an engine overhaul up to about 400 hrs and then it begins to loose value as well. Richard Mutzman AA5A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:21 PM PST US From: Davie Alison Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Davie Alison Sure, I'll give you what Bill just hopes to get for his! James Courtney wrote: --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" Can't we all just get along and someone buy my plane;) Jamey -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flyv35b Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:44 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" --> Hey, I didn't set the price and I'm not trying to sell it at that price of justify the price. Personally, I think it is to high also, but not $20K to high, more like $10K. While we are throwing numbers around, you could do a good engine overhaul for $20K firewall forward - the hoses don't need to be replaced and the baffling doesn't need much work. The plane was repainted in 97 and $5000 would do a pretty decent interior. The KX-155/GS is useable as a 2nd Nav/Com as well as the GX55 GPS, so another $10K would buy a used Garmin 530 and result in pretty nice avionics. That's $35K on top of $50K say for a total of $85K. How does that compare to Jamey's Tiger at $97K with 1000 SMOH on the engine, albeit new cylinders? Obviously, the 76 model year and 4000 TT is a factor, but most of that time has been cross country flying. Probably no more landings than a 1000 hr plane that is used for instruction and rental. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:22 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com > > > In a message dated 4/8/06 8:24:08 AM, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com > writes: > > >> A good friend of mine (Bill Marvel) is selling his 1976 Tiger after >> 29 >> > > It's about $15 to $20K too much for it's current condition. High time > airframe, High time engine, outdated/obsolete avionics. For 35 to 40K it > would be > a good first plane for someone. The interior looks original. A 76 has > no > corrosion proofing in the wings and it probably has purple glue. > > FWF alone would cost about 20K for Bill's plane. With a new engine, it > still isn't worth 80K with over 4000 TT on the airframe and basic > avionics. > > I bought my Tiger 18 months ago for 60K. 1115 TTAF/E, painted in '97, > basic > avionics, autopilot. prices haven't gone up that much, if at all. > > Jamey is asking $97,000 for his '79 Tiger with 1000 TTAF, new Lycoming > cylinders prepared by LyCon, new paint, leather interior, full Garmin > avionics > stack. > > Gary > > > --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:18 PM PST US From: Walt Beaulieu Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: 76 Tiger for Sale --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Walt Beaulieu Oh I disagree on that point. My experience has been that selling a plane that is near overhaul will leave you more net money in your pocket than doing an overhaul and then selling.....Every time. You have to fly out the value of a new engine or eat it. Richard Mutzman wrote: >--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Richard Mutzman" >The only thing that is close to a 100% is an engine overhaul up to about 400 hrs snip > Richard Mutzman >AA5A > > > > > > > > >