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Mon 04/10/06


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 08:40 AM - Re: 76 Tiger For Sale (James Courtney)
     2. 10:34 AM - Re: 76 Tiger For Sale (flyv35b)
     3. 11:25 AM - Re: 76 Tiger For Sale (James Courtney)
     4. 12:03 PM - Re: 76 Tiger For Sale (flyv35b)
     5. 01:53 PM - Re: 76 Tiger For Sale (James Courtney)
     6. 02:08 PM - Re: 76 Tiger For Sale (flyv35b)
     7. 02:14 PM - Re: 76 Tiger For Sale (Denham, Bobby D.)
     8. 02:33 PM - Re: 76 Tiger For Sale (flyv35b)
     9. 03:08 PM - Re: 76 Tiger For Sale (N26390@aol.com)
    10. 03:16 PM - Re: 76 Tiger For Sale (Denham, Bobby D.)
    11. 04:17 PM - Value of Engine OH (Richard Mutzman)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:40:45 AM PST US
    From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net>
    Subject: 76 Tiger For Sale
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> Where's Bill's plane listed? Jamey -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Davie Alison Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 5:45 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Davie Alison <guy4sky@yahoo.com> Sure, I'll give you what Bill just hopes to get for his! James Courtney <jamey@jamescourtney.net> wrote: --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" Can't we all just get along and someone buy my plane;) Jamey -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flyv35b Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:44 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" --> Hey, I didn't set the price and I'm not trying to sell it at that price of justify the price. Personally, I think it is to high also, but not $20K to high, more like $10K. While we are throwing numbers around, you could do a good engine overhaul for $20K firewall forward - the hoses don't need to be replaced and the baffling doesn't need much work. The plane was repainted in 97 and $5000 would do a pretty decent interior. The KX-155/GS is useable as a 2nd Nav/Com as well as the GX55 GPS, so another $10K would buy a used Garmin 530 and result in pretty nice avionics. That's $35K on top of $50K say for a total of $85K. How does that compare to Jamey's Tiger at $97K with 1000 SMOH on the engine, albeit new cylinders? Obviously, the 76 model year and 4000 TT is a factor, but most of that time has been cross country flying. Probably no more landings than a 1000 hr plane that is used for instruction and rental. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:22 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com > > > In a message dated 4/8/06 8:24:08 AM, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com > writes: > > >> A good friend of mine (Bill Marvel) is selling his 1976 Tiger after >> 29 >> > > It's about $15 to $20K too much for it's current condition. High time > airframe, High time engine, outdated/obsolete avionics. For 35 to 40K it > would be > a good first plane for someone. The interior looks original. A 76 has > no > corrosion proofing in the wings and it probably has purple glue. > > FWF alone would cost about 20K for Bill's plane. With a new engine, it > still isn't worth 80K with over 4000 TT on the airframe and basic > avionics. > > I bought my Tiger 18 months ago for 60K. 1115 TTAF/E, painted in '97, > basic > avionics, autopilot. prices haven't gone up that much, if at all. > > Jamey is asking $97,000 for his '79 Tiger with 1000 TTAF, new Lycoming > cylinders prepared by LyCon, new paint, leather interior, full Garmin > avionics > stack. > > Gary > > > ---------------------------------


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    Time: 10:34:12 AM PST US
    From: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
    Subject: Re: 76 Tiger For Sale
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com> http://members.cox.net/bmarvel/tigerforsale ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:38 AM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" > <jamey@jamescourtney.net> > > Where's Bill's plane listed? > > Jamey > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Davie > Alison > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 5:45 PM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Davie Alison <guy4sky@yahoo.com> > > Sure, I'll give you what Bill just hopes to get for his! > > > James Courtney <jamey@jamescourtney.net> wrote: > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" > > Can't we all just get along and someone buy my plane;) > > Jamey > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flyv35b > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:44 PM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" > --> > > Hey, I didn't set the price and I'm not trying to sell it at that price of > justify the price. Personally, I think it is to high also, but not $20K to > high, more like $10K. > > While we are throwing numbers around, you could do a good engine overhaul > for $20K firewall forward - the hoses don't need to be replaced and the > baffling doesn't need much work. The plane was repainted in 97 and $5000 > would do a pretty decent interior. The KX-155/GS is useable as a 2nd > Nav/Com as well as the GX55 GPS, so another $10K would buy a used Garmin > 530 > > and result in pretty nice avionics. That's $35K on top of $50K say for a > total of $85K. How does that compare to Jamey's Tiger at $97K with 1000 > SMOH on the engine, albeit new cylinders? Obviously, the 76 model year and > 4000 TT is a factor, but most of that time has been cross country flying. > Probably no more landings than a 1000 hr plane that is used for > instruction > and rental. > > Cliff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:22 AM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > > >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com >> >> >> In a message dated 4/8/06 8:24:08 AM, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com >> writes: >> >> >>> A good friend of mine (Bill Marvel) is selling his 1976 Tiger after >>> 29 >>> >> >> It's about $15 to $20K too much for it's current condition. High time >> airframe, High time engine, outdated/obsolete avionics. For 35 to 40K it > >> would be >> a good first plane for someone. The interior looks original. A 76 has >> no >> corrosion proofing in the wings and it probably has purple glue. >> >> FWF alone would cost about 20K for Bill's plane. With a new engine, it >> still isn't worth 80K with over 4000 TT on the airframe and basic >> avionics. >> >> I bought my Tiger 18 months ago for 60K. 1115 TTAF/E, painted in '97, >> basic >> avionics, autopilot. prices haven't gone up that much, if at all. >> >> Jamey is asking $97,000 for his '79 Tiger with 1000 TTAF, new Lycoming >> cylinders prepared by LyCon, new paint, leather interior, full Garmin >> avionics >> stack. >> >> Gary >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > --------------------------------- > > >


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    Time: 11:25:57 AM PST US
    From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net>
    Subject: 76 Tiger For Sale
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> Thanks Cliff! A nice plane! Jamey -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flyv35b Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 10:31 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" --> <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com> http://members.cox.net/bmarvel/tigerforsale ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:38 AM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" > <jamey@jamescourtney.net> > > Where's Bill's plane listed? > > Jamey > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Davie Alison > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 5:45 PM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Davie Alison > --> <guy4sky@yahoo.com> > > Sure, I'll give you what Bill just hopes to get for his! > > > James Courtney <jamey@jamescourtney.net> wrote: > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" > > Can't we all just get along and someone buy my plane;) > > Jamey > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > flyv35b > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:44 PM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" > --> > > Hey, I didn't set the price and I'm not trying to sell it at that > price of justify the price. Personally, I think it is to high also, > but not $20K to high, more like $10K. > > While we are throwing numbers around, you could do a good engine > overhaul for $20K firewall forward - the hoses don't need to be > replaced and the baffling doesn't need much work. The plane was > repainted in 97 and $5000 would do a pretty decent interior. The > KX-155/GS is useable as a 2nd Nav/Com as well as the GX55 GPS, so > another $10K would buy a used Garmin 530 > > and result in pretty nice avionics. That's $35K on top of $50K say for > a total of $85K. How does that compare to Jamey's Tiger at $97K with > 1000 SMOH on the engine, albeit new cylinders? Obviously, the 76 model > year and 4000 TT is a factor, but most of that time has been cross > country flying. Probably no more landings than a 1000 hr plane that is > used for instruction and rental. > > Cliff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:22 AM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > > >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com >> >> >> In a message dated 4/8/06 8:24:08 AM, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com >> writes: >> >> >>> A good friend of mine (Bill Marvel) is selling his 1976 Tiger after >>> 29 >>> >> >> It's about $15 to $20K too much for it's current condition. High time >> airframe, High time engine, outdated/obsolete avionics. For 35 to 40K >> it > >> would be >> a good first plane for someone. The interior looks original. A 76 has >> no corrosion proofing in the wings and it probably has purple glue. >> >> FWF alone would cost about 20K for Bill's plane. With a new engine, >> it still isn't worth 80K with over 4000 TT on the airframe and basic >> avionics. >> >> I bought my Tiger 18 months ago for 60K. 1115 TTAF/E, painted in '97, >> basic avionics, autopilot. prices haven't gone up that much, if at >> all. >> >> Jamey is asking $97,000 for his '79 Tiger with 1000 TTAF, new >> Lycoming cylinders prepared by LyCon, new paint, leather interior, >> full Garmin avionics stack. >> >> Gary >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > --------------------------------- > > >


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    Time: 12:03:41 PM PST US
    From: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
    Subject: Re: 76 Tiger For Sale
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com> Well, it's not nearly as nice as yours but probably as good as the average one that is for sale. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" > <jamey@jamescourtney.net> > > Thanks Cliff! > > A nice plane! > > Jamey > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flyv35b > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 10:31 AM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" > --> <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com> > > http://members.cox.net/bmarvel/tigerforsale > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> > To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:38 AM > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > > >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" >> <jamey@jamescourtney.net> >> >> Where's Bill's plane listed? >> >> Jamey >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> Davie Alison >> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 5:45 PM >> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >> >> >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Davie Alison >> --> <guy4sky@yahoo.com> >> >> Sure, I'll give you what Bill just hopes to get for his! >> >> >> James Courtney <jamey@jamescourtney.net> wrote: >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" >> >> Can't we all just get along and someone buy my plane;) >> >> Jamey >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> flyv35b >> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:44 PM >> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >> >> >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" >> --> >> >> Hey, I didn't set the price and I'm not trying to sell it at that >> price of justify the price. Personally, I think it is to high also, >> but not $20K to high, more like $10K. >> >> While we are throwing numbers around, you could do a good engine >> overhaul for $20K firewall forward - the hoses don't need to be >> replaced and the baffling doesn't need much work. The plane was >> repainted in 97 and $5000 would do a pretty decent interior. The >> KX-155/GS is useable as a 2nd Nav/Com as well as the GX55 GPS, so >> another $10K would buy a used Garmin 530 >> >> and result in pretty nice avionics. That's $35K on top of $50K say for >> a total of $85K. How does that compare to Jamey's Tiger at $97K with >> 1000 SMOH on the engine, albeit new cylinders? Obviously, the 76 model >> year and 4000 TT is a factor, but most of that time has been cross >> country flying. Probably no more landings than a 1000 hr plane that is >> used for instruction and rental. >> >> Cliff >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:22 AM >> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >> >> >>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 4/8/06 8:24:08 AM, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com >>> writes: >>> >>> >>>> A good friend of mine (Bill Marvel) is selling his 1976 Tiger after >>>> 29 >>>> >>> >>> It's about $15 to $20K too much for it's current condition. High time >>> airframe, High time engine, outdated/obsolete avionics. For 35 to 40K >>> it >> >>> would be >>> a good first plane for someone. The interior looks original. A 76 has >>> no corrosion proofing in the wings and it probably has purple glue. >>> >>> FWF alone would cost about 20K for Bill's plane. With a new engine, >>> it still isn't worth 80K with over 4000 TT on the airframe and basic >>> avionics. >>> >>> I bought my Tiger 18 months ago for 60K. 1115 TTAF/E, painted in '97, >>> basic avionics, autopilot. prices haven't gone up that much, if at >>> all. >>> >>> Jamey is asking $97,000 for his '79 Tiger with 1000 TTAF, new >>> Lycoming cylinders prepared by LyCon, new paint, leather interior, >>> full Garmin avionics stack. >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 01:53:21 PM PST US
    From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net>
    Subject: 76 Tiger For Sale
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> The panel is nice (dual GS, HSI, nice overlay), the paint is great, and only the 2nd owner who it sounds like took excellent care of her. I've certainly got a few things on my Tiger that it doesn't but it's still a very nice plane and hopefully it finds a good home. When are you down this way again? Cheers, Jamey -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flyv35b Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 12:01 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" --> <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com> Well, it's not nearly as nice as yours but probably as good as the average one that is for sale. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" > <jamey@jamescourtney.net> > > Thanks Cliff! > > A nice plane! > > Jamey > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > flyv35b > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 10:31 AM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" > --> <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com> > > http://members.cox.net/bmarvel/tigerforsale > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> > To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:38 AM > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > > >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" >> <jamey@jamescourtney.net> >> >> Where's Bill's plane listed? >> >> Jamey >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> Davie Alison >> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 5:45 PM >> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >> >> >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Davie Alison >> --> <guy4sky@yahoo.com> >> >> Sure, I'll give you what Bill just hopes to get for his! >> >> >> James Courtney <jamey@jamescourtney.net> wrote: >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" >> >> Can't we all just get along and someone buy my plane;) >> >> Jamey >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> flyv35b >> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:44 PM >> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >> >> >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" >> --> >> >> Hey, I didn't set the price and I'm not trying to sell it at that >> price of justify the price. Personally, I think it is to high also, >> but not $20K to high, more like $10K. >> >> While we are throwing numbers around, you could do a good engine >> overhaul for $20K firewall forward - the hoses don't need to be >> replaced and the baffling doesn't need much work. The plane was >> repainted in 97 and $5000 would do a pretty decent interior. The >> KX-155/GS is useable as a 2nd Nav/Com as well as the GX55 GPS, so >> another $10K would buy a used Garmin 530 >> >> and result in pretty nice avionics. That's $35K on top of $50K say >> for a total of $85K. How does that compare to Jamey's Tiger at $97K >> with 1000 SMOH on the engine, albeit new cylinders? Obviously, the 76 >> model year and 4000 TT is a factor, but most of that time has been >> cross country flying. Probably no more landings than a 1000 hr plane >> that is used for instruction and rental. >> >> Cliff >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:22 AM >> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >> >> >>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 4/8/06 8:24:08 AM, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com >>> writes: >>> >>> >>>> A good friend of mine (Bill Marvel) is selling his 1976 Tiger after >>>> 29 >>>> >>> >>> It's about $15 to $20K too much for it's current condition. High >>> time airframe, High time engine, outdated/obsolete avionics. For 35 >>> to 40K it >> >>> would be >>> a good first plane for someone. The interior looks original. A 76 >>> has no corrosion proofing in the wings and it probably has purple >>> glue. >>> >>> FWF alone would cost about 20K for Bill's plane. With a new engine, >>> it still isn't worth 80K with over 4000 TT on the airframe and basic >>> avionics. >>> >>> I bought my Tiger 18 months ago for 60K. 1115 TTAF/E, painted in >>> '97, basic avionics, autopilot. prices haven't gone up that much, if >>> at all. >>> >>> Jamey is asking $97,000 for his '79 Tiger with 1000 TTAF, new >>> Lycoming cylinders prepared by LyCon, new paint, leather interior, >>> full Garmin avionics stack. >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 02:08:58 PM PST US
    From: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
    Subject: Re: 76 Tiger For Sale
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com> I was just down there a week ago. Won't be again until maybe late May. I'll be in Reno (Stead I think) on May 6 to do some glider training. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:52 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" > <jamey@jamescourtney.net> > > The panel is nice (dual GS, HSI, nice overlay), the paint is great, and > only > the 2nd owner who it sounds like took excellent care of her. I've > certainly > got a few things on my Tiger that it doesn't but it's still a very nice > plane and hopefully it finds a good home. > > When are you down this way again? > > Cheers, > Jamey > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flyv35b > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 12:01 PM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" > --> <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com> > > Well, it's not nearly as nice as yours but probably as good as the average > one that is for sale. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> > To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:25 AM > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > > >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" >> <jamey@jamescourtney.net> >> >> Thanks Cliff! >> >> A nice plane! >> >> Jamey >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> flyv35b >> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 10:31 AM >> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >> >> >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" >> --> <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com> >> >> http://members.cox.net/bmarvel/tigerforsale >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> >> To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:38 AM >> Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >> >> >>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" >>> <jamey@jamescourtney.net> >>> >>> Where's Bill's plane listed? >>> >>> Jamey >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >>> Davie Alison >>> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 5:45 PM >>> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >>> >>> >>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Davie Alison >>> --> <guy4sky@yahoo.com> >>> >>> Sure, I'll give you what Bill just hopes to get for his! >>> >>> >>> James Courtney <jamey@jamescourtney.net> wrote: >>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" >>> >>> Can't we all just get along and someone buy my plane;) >>> >>> Jamey >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >>> flyv35b >>> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:44 PM >>> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >>> >>> >>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" >>> --> >>> >>> Hey, I didn't set the price and I'm not trying to sell it at that >>> price of justify the price. Personally, I think it is to high also, >>> but not $20K to high, more like $10K. >>> >>> While we are throwing numbers around, you could do a good engine >>> overhaul for $20K firewall forward - the hoses don't need to be >>> replaced and the baffling doesn't need much work. The plane was >>> repainted in 97 and $5000 would do a pretty decent interior. The >>> KX-155/GS is useable as a 2nd Nav/Com as well as the GX55 GPS, so >>> another $10K would buy a used Garmin 530 >>> >>> and result in pretty nice avionics. That's $35K on top of $50K say >>> for a total of $85K. How does that compare to Jamey's Tiger at $97K >>> with 1000 SMOH on the engine, albeit new cylinders? Obviously, the 76 >>> model year and 4000 TT is a factor, but most of that time has been >>> cross country flying. Probably no more landings than a 1000 hr plane >>> that is used for instruction and rental. >>> >>> Cliff >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:22 AM >>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >>> >>> >>>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 4/8/06 8:24:08 AM, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com >>>> writes: >>>> >>>> >>>>> A good friend of mine (Bill Marvel) is selling his 1976 Tiger after >>>>> 29 >>>>> >>>> >>>> It's about $15 to $20K too much for it's current condition. High >>>> time airframe, High time engine, outdated/obsolete avionics. For 35 >>>> to 40K it >>> >>>> would be >>>> a good first plane for someone. The interior looks original. A 76 >>>> has no corrosion proofing in the wings and it probably has purple >>>> glue. >>>> >>>> FWF alone would cost about 20K for Bill's plane. With a new engine, >>>> it still isn't worth 80K with over 4000 TT on the airframe and basic >>>> avionics. >>>> >>>> I bought my Tiger 18 months ago for 60K. 1115 TTAF/E, painted in >>>> '97, basic avionics, autopilot. prices haven't gone up that much, if >>>> at all. >>>> >>>> Jamey is asking $97,000 for his '79 Tiger with 1000 TTAF, new >>>> Lycoming cylinders prepared by LyCon, new paint, leather interior, >>>> full Garmin avionics stack. >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 02:14:14 PM PST US
    From: "Denham, Bobby D." <BDDenham@lasd.org>
    Subject: 76 Tiger For Sale
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Denham, Bobby D." <BDDenham@lasd.org> Where are you lacated? -----Original Message----- From: flyv35b [mailto:flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com> I was just down there a week ago. Won't be again until maybe late May. I'll be in Reno (Stead I think) on May 6 to do some glider training. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:52 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" > <jamey@jamescourtney.net> > > The panel is nice (dual GS, HSI, nice overlay), the paint is great, and > only > the 2nd owner who it sounds like took excellent care of her. I've > certainly > got a few things on my Tiger that it doesn't but it's still a very nice > plane and hopefully it finds a good home. > > When are you down this way again? > > Cheers, > Jamey > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flyv35b > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 12:01 PM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" > --> <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com> > > Well, it's not nearly as nice as yours but probably as good as the average > one that is for sale. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> > To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:25 AM > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > > >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" >> <jamey@jamescourtney.net> >> >> Thanks Cliff! >> >> A nice plane! >> >> Jamey >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> flyv35b >> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 10:31 AM >> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >> >> >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" >> --> <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com> >> >> http://members.cox.net/bmarvel/tigerforsale >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> >> To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:38 AM >> Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >> >> >>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" >>> <jamey@jamescourtney.net> >>> >>> Where's Bill's plane listed? >>> >>> Jamey >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >>> Davie Alison >>> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 5:45 PM >>> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >>> >>> >>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Davie Alison >>> --> <guy4sky@yahoo.com> >>> >>> Sure, I'll give you what Bill just hopes to get for his! >>> >>> >>> James Courtney <jamey@jamescourtney.net> wrote: >>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" >>> >>> Can't we all just get along and someone buy my plane;) >>> >>> Jamey >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >>> flyv35b >>> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:44 PM >>> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >>> >>> >>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" >>> --> >>> >>> Hey, I didn't set the price and I'm not trying to sell it at that >>> price of justify the price. Personally, I think it is to high also, >>> but not $20K to high, more like $10K. >>> >>> While we are throwing numbers around, you could do a good engine >>> overhaul for $20K firewall forward - the hoses don't need to be >>> replaced and the baffling doesn't need much work. The plane was >>> repainted in 97 and $5000 would do a pretty decent interior. The >>> KX-155/GS is useable as a 2nd Nav/Com as well as the GX55 GPS, so >>> another $10K would buy a used Garmin 530 >>> >>> and result in pretty nice avionics. That's $35K on top of $50K say >>> for a total of $85K. How does that compare to Jamey's Tiger at $97K >>> with 1000 SMOH on the engine, albeit new cylinders? Obviously, the 76 >>> model year and 4000 TT is a factor, but most of that time has been >>> cross country flying. Probably no more landings than a 1000 hr plane >>> that is used for instruction and rental. >>> >>> Cliff >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:22 AM >>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >>> >>> >>>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 4/8/06 8:24:08 AM, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com >>>> writes: >>>> >>>> >>>>> A good friend of mine (Bill Marvel) is selling his 1976 Tiger after >>>>> 29 >>>>> >>>> >>>> It's about $15 to $20K too much for it's current condition. High >>>> time airframe, High time engine, outdated/obsolete avionics. For 35 >>>> to 40K it >>> >>>> would be >>>> a good first plane for someone. The interior looks original. A 76 >>>> has no corrosion proofing in the wings and it probably has purple >>>> glue. >>>> >>>> FWF alone would cost about 20K for Bill's plane. With a new engine, >>>> it still isn't worth 80K with over 4000 TT on the airframe and basic >>>> avionics. >>>> >>>> I bought my Tiger 18 months ago for 60K. 1115 TTAF/E, painted in >>>> '97, basic avionics, autopilot. prices haven't gone up that much, if >>>> at all. >>>> >>>> Jamey is asking $97,000 for his '79 Tiger with 1000 TTAF, new >>>> Lycoming cylinders prepared by LyCon, new paint, leather interior, >>>> full Garmin avionics stack. >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 02:33:14 PM PST US
    From: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com>
    Subject: Re: 76 Tiger For Sale
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com> Independence, OR, just west of Salem (the capitol). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denham, Bobby D." <BDDenham@lasd.org> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 2:13 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Denham, Bobby D." > <BDDenham@lasd.org> > > Where are you lacated? > > -----Original Message----- > From: flyv35b [mailto:flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com] > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 2:07 PM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > > > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" > <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com> > > I was just down there a week ago. Won't be again until maybe late May. > I'll be in Reno (Stead I think) on May 6 to do some glider training. > > Cliff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> > To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:52 PM > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale > > >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" >> <jamey@jamescourtney.net> >> >> The panel is nice (dual GS, HSI, nice overlay), the paint is great, and >> only >> the 2nd owner who it sounds like took excellent care of her. I've >> certainly >> got a few things on my Tiger that it doesn't but it's still a very nice >> plane and hopefully it finds a good home. >> >> When are you down this way again? >> >> Cheers, >> Jamey >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flyv35b >> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 12:01 PM >> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >> >> >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" >> --> <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com> >> >> Well, it's not nearly as nice as yours but probably as good as the >> average >> one that is for sale. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> >> To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:25 AM >> Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >> >> >>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" >>> <jamey@jamescourtney.net> >>> >>> Thanks Cliff! >>> >>> A nice plane! >>> >>> Jamey >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >>> flyv35b >>> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 10:31 AM >>> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >>> >>> >>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" >>> --> <flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com> >>> >>> http://members.cox.net/bmarvel/tigerforsale >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net> >>> To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com> >>> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:38 AM >>> Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >>> >>> >>>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" >>>> <jamey@jamescourtney.net> >>>> >>>> Where's Bill's plane listed? >>>> >>>> Jamey >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com >>>> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >>>> Davie Alison >>>> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 5:45 PM >>>> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >>>> Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >>>> >>>> >>>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Davie Alison >>>> --> <guy4sky@yahoo.com> >>>> >>>> Sure, I'll give you what Bill just hopes to get for his! >>>> >>>> >>>> James Courtney <jamey@jamescourtney.net> wrote: >>>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" >>>> >>>> Can't we all just get along and someone buy my plane;) >>>> >>>> Jamey >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com >>>> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >>>> flyv35b >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:44 PM >>>> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >>>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >>>> >>>> >>>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "flyv35b" >>>> --> >>>> >>>> Hey, I didn't set the price and I'm not trying to sell it at that >>>> price of justify the price. Personally, I think it is to high also, >>>> but not $20K to high, more like $10K. >>>> >>>> While we are throwing numbers around, you could do a good engine >>>> overhaul for $20K firewall forward - the hoses don't need to be >>>> replaced and the baffling doesn't need much work. The plane was >>>> repainted in 97 and $5000 would do a pretty decent interior. The >>>> KX-155/GS is useable as a 2nd Nav/Com as well as the GX55 GPS, so >>>> another $10K would buy a used Garmin 530 >>>> >>>> and result in pretty nice avionics. That's $35K on top of $50K say >>>> for a total of $85K. How does that compare to Jamey's Tiger at $97K >>>> with 1000 SMOH on the engine, albeit new cylinders? Obviously, the 76 >>>> model year and 4000 TT is a factor, but most of that time has been >>>> cross country flying. Probably no more landings than a 1000 hr plane >>>> that is used for instruction and rental. >>>> >>>> Cliff >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:22 AM >>>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale >>>> >>>> >>>>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In a message dated 4/8/06 8:24:08 AM, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com >>>>> writes: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> A good friend of mine (Bill Marvel) is selling his 1976 Tiger after >>>>>> 29 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's about $15 to $20K too much for it's current condition. High >>>>> time airframe, High time engine, outdated/obsolete avionics. For 35 >>>>> to 40K it >>>> >>>>> would be >>>>> a good first plane for someone. The interior looks original. A 76 >>>>> has no corrosion proofing in the wings and it probably has purple >>>>> glue. >>>>> >>>>> FWF alone would cost about 20K for Bill's plane. With a new engine, >>>>> it still isn't worth 80K with over 4000 TT on the airframe and basic >>>>> avionics. >>>>> >>>>> I bought my Tiger 18 months ago for 60K. 1115 TTAF/E, painted in >>>>> '97, basic avionics, autopilot. prices haven't gone up that much, if >>>>> at all. >>>>> >>>>> Jamey is asking $97,000 for his '79 Tiger with 1000 TTAF, new >>>>> Lycoming cylinders prepared by LyCon, new paint, leather interior, >>>>> full Garmin avionics stack. >>>>> >>>>> Gary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 03:08:45 PM PST US
    From: N26390@aol.com
    Subject: Re: 76 Tiger For Sale
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: N26390@aol.com In a message dated 04/10/2006 5:34:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com writes: Independence, OR, just west of Salem (the capitol). Hey guys, take these individual conversations off the network.


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    Time: 03:16:27 PM PST US
    From: "Denham, Bobby D." <BDDenham@lasd.org>
    Subject: 76 Tiger For Sale
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Denham, Bobby D." <BDDenham@lasd.org> Thanks -----Original Message----- From: N26390@aol.com [mailto:N26390@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:07 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 76 Tiger For Sale --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: N26390@aol.com In a message dated 04/10/2006 5:34:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, flyv35b@ashcreekwireless.com writes: Independence, OR, just west of Salem (the capitol). Hey guys, take these individual conversations off the network.


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    Time: 04:17:21 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Mutzman" <rcmutz@msn.com>
    Subject: Value of Engine OH
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Richard Mutzman" <rcmutz@msn.com> Walt, I would agree with you. If you overhaul an engine, you should probably fly it for the first 500 hrs., and then you will of gotten your money out of it. Overhauling and then selling makes no sense. Better to sell with the high time engine. What I was saying is that if you OH and hang on to it for the first 500 hours, you will see the $$$ for the overhaul through the sale of the plane with about 500 hrs + the time you flew it. I know if I were buying a plane with 100-200 SMOH, I'd be a bit skeptical as to why it was being sold, was it broken in correctly, etc. Richard Mutzman Time: 07:53:18 PM PST US From: Walt Beaulieu <aviation@acs-group.net> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: 76 Tiger for Sale --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Walt Beaulieu <aviation@acs-group.net> Oh I disagree on that point. My experience has been that selling a plane that is near overhaul will leave you more net money in your pocket than doing an overhaul and then selling.....Every time. You have to fly out the value of a new engine or eat it.




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