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1. 04:36 AM - Re: I love my Tiger (aka fuel costs) -> Taunton (David Feinstein)
2. 05:11 AM - Re: Re: I love my Tiger (aka fuel costs) -> Tau nton (Dwork, Robert)
3. 05:47 AM - Re: Relocate to CA (James Courtney)
4. 08:56 AM - Relocation to Ca. (Steve Davis)
5. 09:37 AM - A/c tax (James Grieco)
6. 10:16 PM - Re: Relocate to CA (TeamGrumman@aol.com)
7. 10:44 PM - Re: Relocate to CA (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
8. 11:02 PM - Re: I love my Tiger (aka fuel costs) (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
9. 11:02 PM - Re: Relocate to CA (Gil Alexander)
10. 11:17 PM - Re: Relocate to CA (James Courtney)
11. 11:54 PM - Re: Relocate to CA (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
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| Subject: | Re: I love my Tiger (aka fuel costs) -> Taunton |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "David Feinstein" <david@carneyaviation.com>
# It was Fall
# River that disappeared, right?
It was Fall River. The city built a landfill right next to the airport,
which attracted a lot of birds. Pilots complained about the birds because
they were all over the traffic pattern and on the airport. Because the
landfill made money and the airport didn't, the city closed the airport.
Taunton has an airport with a GPS/NDB approach.
If you need an ILS (fog happens), try New Bedford.
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| Subject: | Re: I love my Tiger (aka fuel costs) -> Tau nton |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Dwork, Robert" <Robert.Dwork@Arbella.com>
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
Feinstein
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:33 AM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: I love my Tiger (aka fuel costs) -> Taunton
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "David Feinstein"
<david@carneyaviation.com>
# It was Fall
# River that disappeared, right?
It was Fall River. The city built a landfill right next to the airport,
which attracted a lot of birds. Pilots complained about the birds because
they were all over the traffic pattern and on the airport. Because the
landfill made money and the airport didn't, the city closed the airport.
Taunton has an airport with a GPS/NDB approach.
If you need an ILS (fog happens), try New Bedford.
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If that explanation wasn't so pathetically sad, it would be funny.
It's like the kid who brings the only bat to a softball game, nobody
particularly likes the bat, so he takes it home and there's no game. Maybe
would've been better to take the chance on the birds (although, ironically,
my one and only bird strike was at Taunton - never went back and I guess
that's why I thought Taunton had closed - it was kind of a traumatic
experience).
We're running out of friendly abutters. Houses don't like aiports, golf
courses don't like 'em (see recent extensive thread in AOPA Forums), even
landfills can't co-exist with them. I'm thinking the only popular adjacent
use for land next to an airport is a cemetary!
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net>
No kidding! The "new" A36 is a '75 model so I have some research to do...
Thanks!
Jamey
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of WILLIAM
KELLY
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Relocate to CA
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "WILLIAM KELLY"
--> <v1rotate@verizon.net>
> He's right and really, for 1% of your aircraft's value annualy, would
> it really be worth the hassle and aggrivation of trying to dodge the
> system let alone the risk of penalty when caught?
>
> If there's a clear legal path to avoiding taxation I'll be the first
> guy
> in
> line but in this case I've yet to hear of a way to beat the system.
You guys might be missing something. I believe in Los Angeles County, if
not in all of California, that once your plane is 30 years old (maybe 35,
not sure) it then qualifies as an antique or classic or some such
designation. At that point you become exempt from the yearly property tax
as long as you display the plane to the public one day a month. That
amounts to leaving your hangar door open for look-i-lu's, or perhaps if it's
parked outside having some sort of a sign saying "this is a Grumman AA...".
I know my plane isn't quite old enough yet, but if I owned a '76 I'd be
calling the county tax assessor to see if I qualify.
Bill Kelly
AA1C 39065 ('78)
Lancaster, CA
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| Subject: | Relocation to Ca. |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steve Davis" <stdavis@wuesd.org>
In Bakersfield, Ca at L45 I rent a hanger from the city. But I have to pay the
cities property tax on the hanger and any improvements. about $88.00 last year.
My Hanger rent is only $160.00 a month, which is a good deal, but I fought
the tax with the city and lost. The county accesses the airplane property tax
which is about 1% a year . Steve N7124L
Stdavis@wuesd.org
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: James Grieco <jamesgrieco@yahoo.com>
Does anyone know if Georgia has a tax break for old a/c? My
tiger is 31 years old.
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| Subject: | Re: Relocate to CA |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
Like the others say, the only tax is a property tax. As for moving to CA
and paying sales tax, I think it's only if you've owned the plane less than 9
months. That's the number I seem to remember.
Where in CA are you planning to move?
Gary
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| Subject: | Re: Relocate to CA |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 4/25/06 8:26:40 PM, gilalex@earthlink.net writes:
> Shucks... it's 40 years in AZ before you qualify for the $25 fee instead of
> the 0.5% yearly tax ... gil A
>
>
What is your tax on house property?
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| Subject: | Re: I love my Tiger (aka fuel costs) |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 4/25/06 10:17:06 AM, sbarboza@airtecproducts.com writes:
> I'm based in taunton (TAN). Airport is alive and well. Scott Barboza
> N5417L
> =============================
In a message dated 4/25/06 7:10:29 AM, lverrone@optonline.net writes:
> There is an airport right in Taunton, MA (KTAN).
> =============================
Before I leave for Boston tis summer, I'll send a heads up on Team-Grumman
and maybe I can meet you guys.
Gary
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| Subject: | Re: Relocate to CA |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gil Alexander <gilalex@earthlink.net>
It's hard to say as a %... To give an approx. number, I'd say it's sort of
0.5% of value as well...
We now pay $5,000 per year... and it's going up.....
But an AZ equivalent of the CA Prop. 13 is getting started to peg the
levels at 2004 and limit yearly increases...
gil A
At 10:43 PM 4/26/2006, you wrote:
>--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
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>In a message dated 4/25/06 8:26:40 PM, gilalex@earthlink.net writes:
>
>
> > Shucks... it's 40 years in AZ before you qualify for the $25 fee instead of
> > the 0.5% yearly tax ... gil A
> >
> >
>
>What is your tax on house property?
>
>
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "James Courtney" <jamey@jamescourtney.net>
We're about 1.1% here in CA or at least in San Mateo County:(
Jamey
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gil
Alexander
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Relocate to CA
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gil Alexander
--> <gilalex@earthlink.net>
It's hard to say as a %... To give an approx. number, I'd say it's sort of
0.5% of value as well...
We now pay $5,000 per year... and it's going up.....
But an AZ equivalent of the CA Prop. 13 is getting started to peg the
levels at 2004 and limit yearly increases...
gil A
At 10:43 PM 4/26/2006, you wrote:
>--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
>
>
>In a message dated 4/25/06 8:26:40 PM, gilalex@earthlink.net writes:
>
>
> > Shucks... it's 40 years in AZ before you qualify for the $25 fee
> > instead of the 0.5% yearly tax ... gil A
> >
> >
>
>What is your tax on house property?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Relocate to CA |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 4/26/06 11:03:02 PM, gilalex@earthlink.net writes:
> But an AZ equivalent of the CA Prop. 13 is getting started to peg the
> levels at 2004 and limit yearly increases...
>
>
Cool, then in about 20 years, Arizona will have schools and roads as bad as
California (only Mississippi ranks lower in school quality than California).
Plus, housing costs will go up because there'll be no tax base to pay for
roads, sewers, power, and water in new developments. The builder will be stuck
with $50,000 to $$75,000 in fees just to build a house that used to cost
$80,000. That same house will cost the equivalent of $500,000 today. The house
I
bought in 1982 for $69,000 in the hell hole of Lancaster is worth $320,000
today. If they pass the equivalent of Prop 13, buy as much property as you
can
leverage. Then hang on to it. With luck, your kids will be out of school.
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