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1. 08:27 AM - Re: Handheld GPS (Scott Boyce)
2. 05:45 PM - Slow day (Bruce Smith)
3. 09:38 PM - Re: Slow day (Gil Alexander)
4. 11:05 PM - Slow day --- and cracks in the horizontal. (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
5. 11:19 PM - Re: Slow day --- and cracks in the horizontal. (Rick Pollack)
6. 11:31 PM - Official TeamGrumman-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
7. 11:40 PM - Official TeamGrumman-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
8. 11:40 PM - Re: Slow day --- and cracks in the horizontal. (Gil Alexander)
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| Subject: | Re: Handheld GPS |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Scott Boyce <tscott165@cableone.net>
The reason you must use the supplied cigarette lighter plug is
because the other end of the cable is terminated with a connector
with the specific pin configuration to plug into the GPS unit.
Scott Boyce
tscott165@cableone.net
On Apr 29, 2006, at 9:57 PM, n32romeo@aol.com wrote:
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: n32romeo@aol.com
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> Yes, but you must use the supplied cigarette lighter plug that
> provides the unit with the 6VDC (stepping down from the bus
> voltage) is my understanding. I was just wondering what the
> installer did on Bob Dwork's Traveler to as he states: "I have mine
> hooked up through an input jack into the panel, where it draws
> power off the bus". I am thinking the installer must have
> installed some form of step-down transformer to feed the unit 6VDC
> (or installed the cigarette lighter plug behind the panel).
> I have a similar issue that I am feeding multiple equipment from
> the cigarette lighter. Currently I have the wires going to my
> portable intercom and my old GPS spliced together and then plugging
> into the cigarette lighter. My intercom needs 12 volts, so this
> same set-up would not work with the Lowrance supplied plug. This
> would be a minor problem to solve with Radio Shack parts, just need
> to put together the schematic.
> Maybe I am wrong on this. If someone with a 1000 or 2000 could
> measure the voltage on the connector going to the GPS out of the
> cigarette lighter and let me know if this is bus voltage (12 or 24)
> or stepped down to something close to 6VDC, that would tell me what
> I need to do.
> Thanks,
> Rich
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Boyce <tscott165@cableone.net>
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:19:50 -0600
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Handheld GPS
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> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Scott Boyce
> <tscott165@cableone.net>
>
> Check it out on the Lowrance website:
>
> http://www.lowrance.com/Aviation/Products/AM2000C.asp
>
> It says 5 - 35 volts via cigarette lighter adapter. Isn't the
> cigarette lighter in your plane wired directly to the bus? I think so
> and therefore supplies whatever your battery or alternator is
> cranking out, somewhere between 12 and 14 volts, usable by most
> portable GPS, etc designed to run off the cigarette lighter without
> any further conditioning.
>
> Scott Boyce
> AA5B, N28339
>
>
> On Apr 29, 2006, at 11:46 AM, n32romeo@aol.com wrote:
>
>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: n32romeo@aol.com
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>> This is from the operating manual (downloaded from Lowrance)
>> Input power:......................6 volts DC (uses four 1.5v AA
>> batteries as
>> emergency backup power). Cigarette lighter
>> power adapter included. Optional rechargeable
>> battery pack available.
>>
>>> From what I understand the Cigarette lighter plug has the voltage
>>> step-down transformer built into it to feed the unit 6VDC. I
>>> don't think you could connect the unit directly off the aircraft
>>> bus without providing some sort of step-down transformer. The
>>> Lowrance Airmap 500 / 600 models run on 3VDC.
>> Rich
>>
>> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Scott Boyce
>> <tscott165@cableone.net>
>>
>> The specs I saw said the Lowrance 2000c runs on 5-35 volts DC. It
>> runs fine from the cigarette lighter in car or plane. Batteries are
>> for standby back-up only and go down quickly when operating on
>> batteries only. I bought an AC/DC 12V adapter at radio shack with a
>> cigarette lighter outlet for $27. I plug the units power cord into
>> the adapter and can explore the intricacies of the unit or set up
>> flight plans and waypoints at home and not be concerned about
>> batteries.
>>
>> Scott Boyce
>> AA5B N28339
>>
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Bruce Smith <res02p3h@verizon.net>
Gary,
Slow day at Team Grumman. Any good stories to share till the next
thread raises it's head?
Bruce
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gil Alexander <gilalex@earthlink.net>
I'll add one.....
Is it standard practice to add red RTV to seal the upper and lower edges of
the oil cooler at the baffle?
It seems there could be a sizeable air leak at these points.... where the
vanes meet the baffle..
I cut away the lower baffles to make the gap equal on both sides of the
bayonet temp sensor, and that seemed to lower my CHTs somewhat (GEM 602
unit, so I only have bars, not exact numbers...), but #4 seems to be the
hottest now.
I might also do the fin flashing filing when the cowl is off next.
I also just split my lower cowling with a joining (repair?) plate... boy
does that make it much easier to remove the cowling with the Powerflow....
gil in Tucson ... getting ready for hot .... 93F to-day...
At 05:44 PM 5/1/2006, you wrote:
>--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Bruce Smith <res02p3h@verizon.net>
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>Gary,
>
>Slow day at Team Grumman. Any good stories to share till the next
>thread raises it's head?
>
>Bruce
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| Subject: | Slow day --- and cracks in the horizontal. |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 5/1/06 9:39:05 PM, gilalex@earthlink.net writes:
> Is it standard practice to add red RTV to seal the upper and lower edges of
> the oil cooler at the baffle?
>
I always use the Black RTV 732. It looks a lot better than the orange
stuff.
I've seen as much as a 30 degree drop when the cylinder baffle strap is cut
back on cyls #3 and #4. The larger exit ramps help also.
-----
OK, I'm doing an annual on a plane that has cracks in the vertical supports
and the horizontal stiffener on the horizontal. Gil, I think this one is
cracked like yours. Do you know if your plane ever had damage to the horizontal?
This one has had the leading edge of the horizonatl replaced.
I've hired a DER to help engineer a better fix than just replacing the same
parts. If it works, I'm going to do an STC for it.
There . . . . . is that a good story?
or, how about
a McCauley prop for a Cheetah that has been cut down to 72 inches and pitched
to 63? New LyCon O320, ported and polished, turns 2850 at 7500 feet.
Trues at 134 knots at 7500 feet at 2700 rpm.
or, how about
I averaged 147 knots flying to Lancaster in my Tiger.
or, how about
I'm doing an STC for my larger cooling exit ramps.
or, how about
have you seen the one piece instrument panel I did for a Tiger about 6 years
ago? Well, I'm going to do another one. This one will be simialr but
'better' in my opinion.
or, how about
I've eliminated all of the interior plastic except for the canopy window
trim, the rear window trim and the forward console covers. That includes the
center plastic piece on the canopy and the top console cover in the front. The
top console cover is made of Carbon fiber with a cup holder!
Gary
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| Subject: | Slow day --- and cracks in the horizontal. |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Rick Pollack" <rdp123@verizon.net>
Thanks Gary, now I am not bored anymore although I'm watching Jon Stewart
and he is tough competition even for stabilizer cracks.
Rick
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Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Slow day --- and cracks in the horizontal.
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
In a message dated 5/1/06 9:39:05 PM, gilalex@earthlink.net writes:
> Is it standard practice to add red RTV to seal the upper and lower edges
of
> the oil cooler at the baffle?
>
I always use the Black RTV 732. It looks a lot better than the orange
stuff.
I've seen as much as a 30 degree drop when the cylinder baffle strap is cut
back on cyls #3 and #4. The larger exit ramps help also.
-----
OK, I'm doing an annual on a plane that has cracks in the vertical supports
and the horizontal stiffener on the horizontal. Gil, I think this one is
cracked like yours. Do you know if your plane ever had damage to the
horizontal?
This one has had the leading edge of the horizonatl replaced.
I've hired a DER to help engineer a better fix than just replacing the same
parts. If it works, I'm going to do an STC for it.
There . . . . . is that a good story?
or, how about
a McCauley prop for a Cheetah that has been cut down to 72 inches and
pitched
to 63? New LyCon O320, ported and polished, turns 2850 at 7500 feet.
Trues at 134 knots at 7500 feet at 2700 rpm.
or, how about
I averaged 147 knots flying to Lancaster in my Tiger.
or, how about
I'm doing an STC for my larger cooling exit ramps.
or, how about
have you seen the one piece instrument panel I did for a Tiger about 6 years
ago? Well, I'm going to do another one. This one will be simialr but
'better' in my opinion.
or, how about
I've eliminated all of the interior plastic except for the canopy window
trim, the rear window trim and the forward console covers. That includes
the
center plastic piece on the canopy and the top console cover in the front.
The
top console cover is made of Carbon fiber with a cup holder!
Gary
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| Subject: | Re: Slow day --- and cracks in the horizontal. |
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gil Alexander <gilalex@earthlink.net>
>
> >
>
>I always use the Black RTV 732. It looks a lot better than the orange
>stuff.
I guess it's not too hot there, and the black would definitely look
better. I'll try that this week.
>I've seen as much as a 30 degree drop when the cylinder baffle strap is cut
>back on cyls #3 and #4. The larger exit ramps help also.
It definitely helped.. but I can't read numbers on the GEM 602.... bummer,
I like numbers...
I did discover keeping your 1800 rpm run-up short helped... if yoou start
the take-off with cooler cylinders, they stay cooler much longer.. hot
cylinders take a long while to cool, even when you reach cruise....and the
new Horizon digital tach made the mag checks easier and quicker...
>-----
>OK, I'm doing an annual on a plane that has cracks in the vertical supports
>and the horizontal stiffener on the horizontal. Gil, I think this one is
>cracked like yours. Do you know if your plane ever had damage to the
>horizontal?
> This one has had the leading edge of the horizonatl replaced.
Yes... mine had hangar rash on the horizontal, a dent was on the left
leading edge as far out as possible, with some attempt at straightening.
Also some rash on the elevators trailing edges.
If you go for the inertia theory (wing stops, tail doesn't), there was also
a fairly large dent on the wing leading edge on the left just short of the tip.
>I've hired a DER to help engineer a better fix than just replacing the same
>parts. If it works, I'm going to do an STC for it.
That would be good.... I'd like to find out if any repaired ones get
buckled again, then we might find out what actually does it...
>There . . . . . is that a good story?
Pretty good....
>or, how about
>
>a McCauley prop for a Cheetah that has been cut down to 72 inches and pitched
>to 63? New LyCon O320, ported and polished, turns 2850 at 7500 feet.
>Trues at 134 knots at 7500 feet at 2700 rpm.
>
>or, how about
>
>I averaged 147 knots flying to Lancaster in my Tiger.
>
>or, how about
>
>I'm doing an STC for my larger cooling exit ramps.
>
>or, how about
>
>have you seen the one piece instrument panel I did for a Tiger about 6 years
>ago? Well, I'm going to do another one. This one will be simialr but
>'better' in my opinion.
>
>or, how about
>
>I've eliminated all of the interior plastic except for the canopy window
>trim, the rear window trim and the forward console covers. That
>includes the
>center plastic piece on the canopy and the top console cover in the
>front. The
>top console cover is made of Carbon fiber with a cup holder!
Hey, somewhere for your beer can!!
Any more details on the center canopy trim.. mine's getting shot... I
think the last interior work put in foam that was too firm...
gil in tucson
>Gary
>
>
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