---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/07/06: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:55 AM - PIC training (Steve Roberts) 2. 09:35 AM - Re: PIC training (Mike Blakeney) 3. 09:37 AM - Re: PIC training (Geoffrey Hickey) 4. 09:38 AM - Re: PIC training (Eric Finley) 5. 01:06 PM - Re: PIC training (WILLIAM KELLY) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:13 AM PST US From: "Steve Roberts" Subject: TeamGrumman-List: PIC training --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steve Roberts" I sent this to the GG but Mark intercepted it. I guess this he feels this is something that our Grumman pilots should be discussing there.... ??? He did give me a reply with his opinion but I'd like to get more than one. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I received an invitation for instrument training from an outfit called PIC (Professional Instrument Courses, Inc). Anyone ever used this company? They are based out of Essex, CT Your feedback on or off list is welcomed. It's my understanding I need to have my written completed first. Is this correct? I've completed the King video series for my inst ground school but just cannot seem to do well with the practice test available on sportys.com, any tips or tricks would be welcomed. Someone mentioned a two day intensive written class near me that guarantees one to pass the test. Any feedback on this is welcomed as well. Steve Roberts - AA-1B N9664L @ ILG ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:33 AM PST US From: Mike Blakeney Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: PIC training --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. If you're using HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text". --- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found --- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:37:09 AM PST US From: Geoffrey Hickey Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: PIC training --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Geoffrey Hickey Steve Roberts wrote: > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steve Roberts" > > > I sent this to the GG but Mark intercepted it. I guess this he feels > this is something that our Grumman pilots should be discussing > there.... ??? He did give me a reply with his opinion but I'd like to > get more than one. Hi Steve, PIC has been discussed on the GG in the past, if I remember rightly. Try looking on grumman.net/archive and see what you dig up. so than the intensive courses where you go to them, as opposed to them sending an instructor to you, which is how PIC works. I think you do already have to have passed your written. Ron Levy has done some instruction for PIC, I think. - Geoff (also not instrument-rated) Hickey - ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:38:54 AM PST US From: "Eric Finley" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: PIC training --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Eric Finley" Steve- Regarding your instrument training, what is the big hurry? Too many pilots use accelerated training as a way just to finish and get through a rating. Your instrument rating is difficult because it is probably the most important rating you will ever get. Flying the aircraft in actual conditions can be accomplished by most competent pilots. However I have run into to many pilots that are instrument rated and have no real concept of the rules, regulations, and procedures that should be implicated while flying under IFR conditions. Just dont pass the IFR written exam. Learn it and know the questions inside and out. Grasp the concepts, rules, navigational procedures, and so forth. Remember when you begin to fly into IFR airspace you're now up there with the professionals, and nothing drives professional pilots more crazy than incompetent IFR pilots in actual conditions. Eric >From: "Steve Roberts" >Subject: TeamGrumman-List: PIC training >Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 11:53:03 -0400 > >--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steve Roberts" > > >I sent this to the GG but Mark intercepted it. I guess this he feels this >is something that our Grumman pilots should be discussing there.... ??? He >did give me a reply with his opinion but I'd like to get more than one. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >I received an invitation for instrument training from an outfit called PIC >(Professional Instrument Courses, Inc). Anyone ever used this company? They >are based out of Essex, CT Your feedback on or off list is welcomed. It's >my understanding I need to have my written completed first. Is this >correct? > >I've completed the King video series for my inst ground school but just >cannot seem to do well with the practice test available on sportys.com, any >tips or tricks would be welcomed. Someone mentioned a two day intensive >written class near me that guarantees one to pass the test. Any feedback on >this is welcomed as well. > >Steve Roberts - AA-1B N9664L @ ILG > > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List >http://wiki.matronics.com > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:46 PM PST US From: "WILLIAM KELLY" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: PIC training --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "WILLIAM KELLY" > Regarding your instrument training, what is the big hurry? Too many pilots > use accelerated training as a way just to finish and get through a rating. I used PIC to complete my rating. It's not a matter of being in a hurry. It's a matter of not starting and stopping the training over a long and inefficient period of time where life's other priorities keep getting in the way and you end up repeating lessons and wasting money relearning skills. PIC also screens its instructors carefully. They typically aren't time builders and definitely will not leave you in the middle of your training for a better job. It is a program which I believe has a proven track record. > Your instrument rating is difficult because it is probably the most > important rating you will ever get. It can also be difficult because people are driving to the one lesson they've had in two weeks and are thinking about the business report their boss is expecting the day after tomorrow. > However I have run into to many pilots that are instrument rated and have > no real concept of the rules, regulations, and procedures that should be > implicated while flying under IFR... Many pilots do not stay current after the rating is attained. When you take the PIC course and pass your checkride, you will know the rules. > you're now up there with the professionals, and nothing drives > professional pilots more crazy than incompetent IFR pilots in actual > conditions. You aren't going to be unprofessional because of PIC. Bill Kelly > > Eric > > >>From: "Steve Roberts" >>Subject: TeamGrumman-List: PIC training >>Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 11:53:03 -0400 >> >>--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Steve Roberts" >> >> >>I sent this to the GG but Mark intercepted it. I guess this he feels this >>is something that our Grumman pilots should be discussing there.... ??? He >>did give me a reply with his opinion but I'd like to get more than one. >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>I received an invitation for instrument training from an outfit called PIC >>(Professional Instrument Courses, Inc). Anyone ever used this company? >>They are based out of Essex, CT Your feedback on or off list is welcomed. >>It's my understanding I need to have my written completed first. Is this >>correct? >> >>I've completed the King video series for my inst ground school but just >>cannot seem to do well with the practice test available on sportys.com, >>any tips or tricks would be welcomed. Someone mentioned a two day >>intensive written class near me that guarantees one to pass the test. Any >>feedback on this is welcomed as well. >> >>Steve Roberts - AA-1B N9664L @ ILG >> >> >> >> >> >>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List >>http://wiki.matronics.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > >