---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/17/06: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:16 PM - Re: 2005 Tiger observation (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:06 PM PST US From: TeamGrumman@AOL.COM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 2005 Tiger observation Hi Ned, I know you're proud of your '02 Tiger. And, yes, there can be ways found to work around a lot of poor engineeering. There are tricks to everything. BUT. 20 minutes? I can have the my cowling off and back on twice in that length of time. Maybe more. The fact is, if this were a Ford being reviewed for Consumer Reports, or Car and Driver, or Road and Track, and they were faced with routine maintenance that should take minutes and takes hours, they would slam the hell out of the product. NO ONE should have to work around or find ways to work around such basic items. As for the oil change, I'm sure there are a lot of people out there changing the oil on their planes with wires draped all over the place. Trust me, I've seen many. But why? Why go through the hoops just to change the oil. Next time you see my plane, notice just how few wires you even see. Open the hood of any car going back to the 50's and you don't see wires hanging all over. Hell, today, you're lucky to find any wires. There are no regs saying where to run wiring. It's just being lazy and accepting poor engineering. 24 volts is a great idea for a Citation. And, if I were up to spending $100K on a glass panel, I might want 24 volts too. But, the fact is, for the class of plane we fly, it's over kill. At most, I draw 20 to 30 amps from my alternator/battery. That's, at most, 360 watts (or 420 Watts at 14 volts). In a 24 volt system, you're looking at maybe 17 to 20 amps. Why is there such a huge alternator on a 24 volt system? Is it necessary to carry around all that dead weight? OK, I'm off my soap box.