---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 09/06/06: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:56 AM - Re: Official TeamGrumman-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (KevPA 216) 2. 07:15 AM - Land (Gil Alexander) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:56:40 AM PST US From: "KevPA 216" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Official TeamGrumman-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) Remove me from your batch email list I recieve hundreds of emails every day from your company. These have been clogging my email box... Thank you , Keith > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 23:30:50 -0700> From: dralle@matronics.com> To: dra lle@matronics.com> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Official TeamGrumman-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)> > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Ma tt Dralle > > Dear Listers,> > Please read over the TeamGrumman-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) below. The> complete Tea mGrumman-List FAQ including the Usage Guidelines can be found at the> follo wing URL:> > http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/TeamGrumman-List.FAQ.html> > Thank you,> > Matt Dralle> Matronics Email List Administrator> > > > [ Note: This FAQ was designed to be displayed with a fixed width font such a s> Courier. Proportional fonts will cause display formatting erro rs. ]> > > > > This FAQ can also be viewed in HTML online at the followi ng address:> > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman -List.htm> > > > ************************************************** **********> ******* LIST POLICIES AND FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ** *****> ************************************************************ > > > > PLEASE READ. This document contains TeamGrumman-List policies and information> for new and old subscribers. Understanding the TeamGrumman-Li st policies will> minimize problems for the Administrator, and will help ke ep the TeamGrumman-List> running smoothly for all of us.> > > ************* *****************************> *** Quick Start Guide to List Features ***> ******************************************> > There are many features av ailable on the Matronics Email Lists and each> one is described in detai led below. However, using the List Navigator> you can quickly access th e complete set of features available for this> List. The List Navigator can be found at the following URL:> > http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List> > > > *********************************** *****> *** How to Subscribe and Unsubscribe ***> ************************** **************> > Simply go to the Web Page shown below and enter your e mail address and> select the List(s) that you wish to subscribe or unsub scribed from. You> may also use the handy "Find" function to determine the exact syntax of > your email address as it is subscribed to the List . Please see the > complete instructions at the top of the Web Page for more information.> The Subscribe/Unsubscribe web page is:> > http://www.matronics.com/subscribe> > Note that you will receive TWO conformation emails regarding your subsciption> process. The first verifies that your subscription/unsubsciption request> was received, and the second confirms that the process has been completed.> > You should receive the first email within a few minutes of your request. > The sec ond conformation will arrive in less than 24 hours. You cannot post > u ntil you receive the second conformation email message.> > > > ************ *****************> *** How to Post a Message ***> ************************* ****> > Send an email message to:> > teamgrumman-list@ matronics.com> > Your message will be redistributed to everyone currentl y subscribed> to the List.> > > > ************************************** ***************> *** SPAM Fighter - You Must be Subscribed to Post ***> *** **************************************************> > When a new post is received by the system, the From: line of the message> is checked and c ompared against the current subscription list. If the> email address is found, the message is passed on to the List Processor.> If the email ad dress isn't found in the current list of subscribers, it> is dumped. Th is serves to very effectively thwart 99% of the SPAM that> gets posted t o the Lists.> > Remember, however, that the syntax of your email address is very important> with regard to the configuration of your email appli cation such as Outlook> or Eudora. For example, the following two email addresses may be> functionally equivalent, but only one would pass the Matronics Email SPAM> test depending on which was syntax was subscribed to the given List:> > smith@machine.domain.com> > smith@domain.com> > Either email address syntax is alright, ju st be sure that you configure> your email application to match *exactly* the address you've subscibed to > the List.> > > > ********************** ****************> *** Enclosure Support on the Lists *** > **************** **********************> > Limited posting of enclosures such as pictures , documents, and spreadsheets> is supported on the Lists. There are a n umber of restrictions, and these> are detailed below. Please abide by t he rules put forth regarding the> content of enclosures.> > These are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the Matronics > Lists: > > 1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the Li sts.> > 2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version o f the Lists.> > 3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site.> > 4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives.> > 5) En closures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature.> > 6) Only th e following file types and extensions will be allowed:> > bmp doc dwg dxf gif jpg pdf png txt xls> > All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to> sender. The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from> a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk.> > 7) !! All incoming enclosure s will be scanned for viruses prior to posting> to the List. This is done in real time and will not slow down> the process of posting the message !!> > > Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these rules > could result in the removal of a subscriber's em ail address from the Lists.> > 1) Pay attention to what you are posting! ! Make sure that the files> you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater t hat 1MB). Remember that there> are still people checking they're ema il via dial up modem. If you post> 30MB worth of pictures, you are p lacing an unnecessary burden on these> folks and the rest of us, for that matter.> > 2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000> pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This i s just > unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture> down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the> file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.> > Mic rosoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows> y ou to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically > scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it!> ht tp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx> Look for the link "Image Resizer"> > 3) !! This would seem to go witho ut saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not> post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother.> And you know what I'm s aying; I don't want to see anything even > questionable. !!> > 4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members> subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting> to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and > BE COURTEOUS!> > Also see the section below on the Matronics Photo and File Share where> you can have your files and photos posted on the Matro nics web server> for long time viewing and availability.> > > > ******** ***********> *** Digest Mode ***> *******************> > Each day, start ing at 12 midnight PST US, a new 'digest' will be started.> This digest will contain the same information that is currently appended > to the ar chive file. It has all of the headers except for the "From:"> and "Subj ect:" lines removed, and includes a message separator consisting > of a line of underscores.> > Each day at 23:55 PST US, the day's messages as described above will be> combined and sent as a single message to everyo ne on the digest email list.> > To subscribe to the digest list, use the same subscription web form > described above, and just select the Diges t version of the List.> > http://www.matronics.com/subscri be> > Note that you *can* be subscribed to both the realtime and digest versions> of the List at the same time. This is perfectly acceptable.> > Now some caveats:> > * Messages sent to "teamgrumman-list-digest" wi ll be forwarded to the standard> email list. In other words, you cann ot post messages only to the> digest List.> > * If you are subscrib ed to both the regular List and the digest List, you> will receive the realtime postings as well as the digest at the end of> the day.> > * If you reply to the digest email, your message will be forwarded to the> normal list associated with the digest. Important Note: Please chan ge> the subject line to reflect the topic of your response! Also, ple ase > *do not include all or most of the digest in your reply*.> > > > ****************************> *** List Digest Browser ***> *************** *************> > An archive of all the List Digests can be found online in either plain text> or HTML format. These archives contain the exact Digest that was posted to> the Digest email list on the given day. The Digest Archives can be found> at the following location: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest> > > > ****************************** ***********> *** The "DO NOT ARCHIVE" Message Flag ***> ******************* **********************> > At times, your message may concern something t hat is revelent only to a very > small number of persons or to a limited area, and you may not wish to archive > it. In such a case, simply put the following phrase anywhere in the > message:> > do not archive> > Your message will not be appended to the archive, but wil l be sent to List > email distribution as normal.> > > > *************** *******************************> ***** READ THIS - Automatic Unsubscribes * ****> **********************************************> > Note that if you r email address begins to cause problems such as bounced> email, mailbox is filled, or any other errors, your address will be promptly> removed from the List. If you discover that you are no longer receiving> messag es from the TeamGrumman-List, go to the following Web page, and look> fo r your email address and a possible reason for your removal.> > The Matr onics Email List uses utility called the "Email Weasel" that > automatic ally looks though the day's bounced email for addresses that > caused pr oblems due to common things like "user is unknown", "mailbox > full", et c. If the Email Weasel removes your email address from the > Lists you will find record of it at the following URL:> > http://www .matronics.com/unsubscribed> > If the problem listed on the web site abo ve has been resolved, please feel > free to resubscribe to the Lists of your choice.> > > > *******************************> *** List Member Inform ation ***> *******************************> > If you have not done so al ready, please email me your phone numbers and > paper mail address in th e following format:> > smith@somehost.com> Joe Smith> 123 Airport Lane> Tower, CA 91234-1234> 098-765-1234 w> 123-456-7890 h> > Please forward this information to the following email address:> > requests@matronics.com> > I have a file of such things, that I typically use to contact you when > there are problems with your email address. The information will NOT > be used for any other commer cial purpose.> > > > ****************************************> *** Realtime Web Email List Browsing ***> ****************************************> > Recent messages posted to the TeamGrumman-List are also made available on > the Web for realtime browsing. Seven days worth of back postings are> available with this feature. The messages can be sorted by Subject, > Author, Date, or Message Thread. The Realtime List Browser indexes are > updated twice per hour at xx:15 and xx:45. You can also reply to a me ssage > or start a new message directly from the List Browser Interface (coming soon).> You do not have to be subscribed to the given list to us e the List> Browser Interface in view-mode.> > http://w ww.matronics.com/browselist/teamgrumman-list> > > > *********************** ********************> *** Web Forums Bulletin Board Interface ***> ******** ***********************************> > A phpBB BBS web Forums front end is available for all TeamGrumman-List content.> content. The Forums con tain all of the same content available via the email > distribution and found on the various archive viewing formats such as the > List Browse, etc. Any posts on the web Forums will be cross posted to the > respecti ve email List, and posts to the Email List will be cross posted to > the web Forums.> > You may view all List content on the Forums without any special login.> If you wish to post a message via the Web Forum interfac e, however, you> will need to Register. This is a simple process that t akes only a few> minutes. A link to the Registration page can be found at the top of the> main web Forums page. Note that registering on the F orum web site also> enables you to send email posts to the Lists as well . You will also need to > Subscribe to the respective Email List as des cribed above to receive the> Email Distribution of the List, however.> > The Matroincs Email List Web BBS Forums can be found at the following U RL:> > http://forums.matronics.com> > > > **************** *****************> *** Matronics Email List Wiki ***> ********************* ************> > In an attempt to make it easy to store and find structured and often accessed > information, Matronics has installed a Wiki at:> > http://wiki.matronics.com> > The Wiki allows individuals to c reate web pages to contain useful information > for other users of the mail ing lists and web site. Unlike an ordinary web page > where the content nee ds to be submitted to Matronics for inclusion, the Wiki > permits the users to construct their own pages and have them visible immediately.> > While c onstructing pages for the Wiki is not difficult, some may not be > comforta ble building pages. In that case, simply prepare the text and any > images and email it to:> > wiki-support@matronics.com> > One of t he volunteers on that list will take your submission and construct > a Wiki page for you.> > Often someone produces a particularly useful posting in e mail one one of the > Lists that would be of general interest. In that case Matronics may take that > post and convert it into a Wiki page.> > > > *** ******************> *** List Archives ***> *********************> > A fi le containing of all of the previous postings to the TeamGrumman-List is> available on line. The archive file information is available via the > Web and FTP in a number of forms. Each are briefly described below:> > > * TeamGrumman-List.FAQ > > - Latest version of the TeamGrum man-List Frequently Asked Question > page (this document).> > * TeamGrumman-Archive.digest.complete > > - Complete file w ith most of the email header info removed and > page breaks i nserted between messages.> > * TeamGrumman-Archive.digest.vol-?? > > - Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections that > can more easily handled.> > * TeamGrumman-Archive.digest .complete.zip > > - Same as the TeamGrumman-Archive.digest.comp lete file above, but > in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data tr ansfer methods.> > * TeamGrumman-Archive.digest.complete.Z > > - Same as the TeamGrumman-Archive.digest.complete file above, but in > UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.> > > > Download Via FTP> ----------------> > The archive file is availa ble via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com> in the "/pub/Archives" dir ectory. It is updated daily and can be found in> a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.)> > ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives> > > > Download Via Web> --------- -------> > The archives are also available via a web listing. These can be found> toward the bottom of the following web page:> > http://www.matronics.com/archives> > > > ***************************** *************> *** Complete List Web Archive Browsing ***> **************** **************************> > All messages posted to the TeamGrumman-Lis t are also available using the> Email List Archive Browsing feature. Wi th this utility, all messages> in the List are indexed, and individual s ub-archives can be browsed.> > http://www.matronics.com/a rchive/archive-index.cgi?TeamGrumman> > > > ******************************* **********> **** High-Speed Archive Search Engine ***> ******************** *********************> > You can use the custom, high-performance Matron ics Email List Search Engine> to quickly locate and browse any messages that have been posted to the> List. The Engine allows the user to easil y search any of the currently> available List archives.> > http://www.matronics.com/search> > > > ****************************> * ** File and Photo Share ***> ****************************> > With the Ma tronics Email List File and Photo Share you can share pictures> and othe r data with members of the List without having to forward a > copy of it to everyone. To share your Files and Photos, simply email > them to:> > pictures@matronics.com> > !! ==> Please includin g the following information with each submission:> > 1) E mail Lists that they are related to.> 2) Your Full Name.> 3) Your Email Address.> 4) One line Su bject description.> 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph descri ption of topic.> 6-x) One-line Description of each photo or file> > Prior to public availability of the files and photos, each wi ll be scanned> for viruses. Please also note that the process of making the files and> photos available on the web site is a pseudo-manual proc ess, and I try to> process them every few days.> > Following the avai lability of the new Photoshare, an email message will be> sent to the Em ail Lists enumerated in 1) above indicating that the new> Share is avail able and what the direct URL to it is.> > For a current list of availabl e Photoshares, have a look at the Main> Index Page:> > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare> > > > **************************> *** List Archive CDROM ***> **************************> > A complete Matron ics Email List Archive CD is available that contains> all of the archive s since the beginning of each of the Lists. The archives> for all of th e Lists are included on the CD along with a freeware search> engine writ ten by a list member. The CD is burned the day you order it> and will c ontain archive received up to the last minute. They make > great gifts !> > http://www.matronics.com/ArchiveCDROM> > > > ******* ***************************> *** List Support Contributions ***> ********** ************************> > The Matronics Lists are run *completely* thr ough the support of it members.> You won't find any PopUpAds, flashing B anner ads, or any other form of> annoying commercialism on either the Em ail Messages or the List web pages> associated with the Matronics Email Lists. Every year during November> I run a low-key, low-pressure "Fund Raiser" where, throughout the month,> I ask List members to make a Contr ibution in any amount with which they > are comfortable.> > I will of ten offer free gifts with certain contribution levels during the> Fund R aiser to increase the participation. The gifts are usually donated> by companies that are themselves List members.> > Your Contributions go dir ectly to supporting the operation of the Lists> including the high-speed , business-class Internet connection, server> system hardware and softwa re upgrades, and to partially offset the many> many hours I spend runnin g, maintaining, upgrading, and developing the> variety of services found here.> > Generally Contributions range from $20 to $100 and are complet ely voluntary> and non-compulsory. I ask only that if person enjoys the Lists and obtains> value from them, that they make a Contribution of eq ual magnitude.> > Contributions are accepted throughout the year, and if you've just > subscribed, feel free to make a Contribution when you've settled in.> > The website for making SSL Secure Contributions is listed below. There are> a variety of payment methods including Visa and Mast erCard, PayPal, and> sending a personal check.> > If you enjoy and va lue the List, won't you make a Contribution today to> support its contin ued operation?> > http://www.matronics.com/contributions> > Thank you!> Matt Dralle> Email List Administrator> > > > ****** ************************************************************************> TeamGrumman-List Usage Guidelines> ******************** **********************************************************> > The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the TeamGrumman-List.> You are e ncouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.> Failure to use the TeamGrumman-List in the manner described below may result > in the removal of the subscribers from the List.> > > TeamGrumman-List Policy Statement> > The purpose of the TeamGrumman-List is to provide a forum of d iscussion for> things related to this particular discussion group. The Lis t's goals> are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliv er> high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie> among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals > r equires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of > the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:> > > - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit> posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long> lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.> > - THINK carefully before you wr ite. Ask yourself if your post will be> relevant to everyone. If you h ave to wonder about that, DON'T send it.> > - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive> that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and> terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and> responses.> > - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,> aircraft type/tail nu mber, and geographic location. A short line> about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid> bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary> space in the archive.> > - DON'T po st requests to the List for information when that info is> easily obtain able from other widely available sources. Consult the> web page or FAQ first.> > - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of> your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it> easy to find threads in the archive.> > - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your> response. DO use lines from the or iginal post to help "tune in" the> reader to the topic at hand, but be s elective. The impact that> quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive > can not be overstated!> > - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT> then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the> "reply" button on your mail pack age does not necessarily send your> response to the original poster. Yo u might have to actively address> your response with the original poster 's email address.> > - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something> to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way t o go!", "I> agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are bet ter sent> to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at la rge.> > - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you nee d to> comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly> contribute something valuable.> > - Feel free to disagree with other vi ewpoints, BUT keep your tone> polite and respectful. Don't make snide c omments, personally attack> other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously> controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that> will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.> > - Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly > su bscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by > List mem bers promoting their respective products or items for sale > should be o f a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble > a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but > is about sharing inf ormation and knowledge. This applies to > everyone, including those who provide products to the entire > community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the > operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.> > -------> > > [This is an automated posting.]> > do not archive ================> > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:18 AM PST US From: Gil Alexander Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Land Gary... sorry for the delay... this is the parcel we have.... Site Address 15729 KESON PL Assessors Parcel Number 25-150-15 Acres 5 gil A