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Mon 10/30/06


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     1. 07:05 AM - JPI 800 & manifold pressure (Weir, Douglas (CALYON))
     2. 09:33 AM - Re: Manifold pressure (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:05:09 AM PST US
    From: "Weir, Douglas (CALYON)" <douglas.weir@us.calyon.com>
    Subject: JPI 800 & manifold pressure
    I have a JPI 800, and recently I have noticed the manifold pressure will become highly erratic after maybe 30 minutes of flight time. It is somewhat intermittent, and does not always demonstrate the same behavior. I have looked at the hardware and do not see any obvious loose fittings - do you have any suggestions of how to go about trouble-shooting, and what the likely culprit might be? Also, I recently had a bird strike which will require replacement of the vertical stabilizer - other than Fletcher, are there other reliable sources of replacement parts for my Tiger (it's a '79)? Thanks, Doug *** Calyon **************************************************** This message and/or any attachments (the "message") is intended for the sole use of its addressee. If you are not the addressee, please immediately notify the sender and then destroy the message. The unauthorized disclosure, use, dissemination or copying (either whole or partial) of this e-mail, or any information it contains, is prohibited. E-mails are susceptible to alteration and their integrity cannot be guaranteed. As this message and/or any attachments may have been altered without our knowledge, its content is not legally binding on CALYON Corporate and Investment Bank. All rights reserved. <html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:sc hemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:1 0.0pt; font-family:Arial'>I have a JPI 800, and recently I have noticed the manifo ld pressure will become highly erratic after maybe 30 minutes of flight time.&nbsp; It is somewhat intermittent, and does not always demonstrate the same behavior.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:1 0.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:1 0.0pt; font-family:Arial'>I have looked at the hardware and do not see any obvious loose fittings - do you have any suggestions of how to go about trouble-shooting, and what the likely culprit might be?<o:p></o:p></span></ font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:1 0.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:1 0.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Also, I recently had a bird strike which will require replacement of the vertical stabilizer - other than Fletcher, are there other reliable sources of replacement parts for my Tiger (it's a '79)?<o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:1 0.0pt; font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:1 0.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:1 0.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Doug<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <FONT SIZE=3><BR> <BR> *** Calyon **************************************************** <BR> This message and/or any attachments (the "message") is intended for the sol e use of its addressee. If you are not the addressee, please immediately n otify the sender and then destroy the message. The unauthorized disclosure , use, dissemination or copying (either whole or partial) of this e-mail, o r any information it contains, is prohibited. E-mails are susceptible to al teration and their integrity cannot be guaranteed. As this message and/or any attachments may have been altered without our knowledge, its content is not legally binding on CALYON Corporate and Investment Bank. All rights re served. <BR> </FONT> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 09:33:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Manifold pressure
    From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM
    --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: teamgrumman@aol.com Well, based on how long the FAA is taking with the cowling .... TBD. I wish you lived closer. -----Original Message----- From: 923te@cox.net Sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:43 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Manifold pressure --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "923te" <923te@cox.net> I have one...how long do yu need it for? ----- Original Message ----- From: <teamgrumman@aol.com> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Manifold pressure --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: teamgrumman@aol.com I need a test AG5B to create an STC for a diffferent inlet. The same (stupid) air filter and airbox will be used. -----Original Message----- From: teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:15 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Manifold pressure --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: teamgrumman@aol.com I thought I made it clear that both planes have a JPI 800. Same instrumentation. Same transducers. The pressure is being measured from the fuel injection port on the #3 cylinder on both planes. The length of tubing to the MAP transducer is the same. -----Original Message----- From: FLYaDIVE@aol.com To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 3:43 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Manifold pressure In a message dated 10/29/2006 3:24:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, teamgrumman@aol.com writes: --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: teamgrumman@aol.com Did an interesting test today. 2004 Tiger with a JPI 800. With Manifold Pressure. My TIger, 1987 Tiger with a JPI 800. Engine not running: both indicate the same manifold pressure During a climb at WOT (wide open throttle) from 4000 ft to 6500 feet, manifold pressure in the 2004 was 1/2 inch less. Straight and level, WOT, MAP in the '04 Tiger was 7/10 inches less. I've thought for a long time that the design of the carb air inlet on the AG5B was stupid. Now I'm convinced. ________________________________________________________________________ =============================================== Gary: Where is the manifold pressure being taken from for each gage? What I'm thinking is: Since we know the poor configuration and fuel distribution that the intake manifold offers, could it be this, that is showing the difference between your gages. Then again they are only gages. Made by different manufactures and I believe the JPI uses a transducer while the planes gage is a Boron(sp) Tube. Lots of mechanical differences their also. There is also the scales range to consider. What is the advertised accuracy of the each of the gages? Are the reading differences between the gages within that accuracy range? GAUD! I hate being so QA Analytical. Barry "Chop'd Liver" ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more.




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