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Mon 11/27/06


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     0. 12:37 AM - List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed! (Matt Dralle)
     1. 10:57 AM - T-Day (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
     2. 11:28 AM - Re: T-Day (Bruce Smith)
     3. 06:46 PM - Re: T-Day (jetinc@comcast.net)
     4. 07:15 PM -  ()
     5. 07:18 PM - Aileron AD Compliance ()
     6. 08:42 PM - Air flow testing (Gil Alexander)
     7. 08:58 PM - Re: T-Day (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
     8. 09:08 PM - Re: T-Day (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
     9. 09:13 PM - Re: Aileron AD Compliance (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
    10. 09:15 PM - Re: Air flow testing (teamgrumman@aol.com)
    11. 09:18 PM - Re: Air flow testing (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
    12. 09:28 PM - Re: T-Day (jetinc@comcast.net)
    13. 11:44 PM - Re: T-Day (teamgrumman@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:37:15 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're
    Listed! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, the List seems at least as valuable of a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all? :-) Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by droping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 10:57:01 AM PST US
    Subject: T-Day
    From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM
    My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 knots on the GPS. The trip home was slower. 4 hours. I noticed an interesting phemonemon. My flaps are set high and I normally fine tune the degree of flaps based on fuel loading and the location of the CG. Apparently, the flaps are not 100% symmetric, left to right. At the full "UP" position, the left wing felt a little heavy. Tapping the flaps down a few degrees removed the heavy wing. A few more degrees gave me a heavier right wing. I found I could correct an imbalanced fuel load with flap position. "We don't need no stinking electric aileron trim" ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more.


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    Time: 11:28:21 AM PST US
    From: Bruce Smith <bruce.smith@york.com>
    Subject: Re: T-Day
    Gary, When you say that your flaps are set high, do you mean that they are reflexed upward past the norm? Thanks. Bruce Smith teamgrumman@aol.com wrote: > > My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind > going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 > knots on the GPS. > > The trip home was slower. 4 hours. > > I noticed an interesting phemonemon. My flaps are set high and I > normally fine tune the degree of flaps based on fuel loading and the > location of the CG. Apparently, the flaps are not 100% symmetric, > left to right. At the full "UP" position, the left wing felt a little > heavy. Tapping the flaps down a few degrees removed the heavy wing. > A few more degrees gave me a heavier right wing. I found I could > correct an imbalanced fuel load with flap position. > > "We don't need no stinking electric aileron trim" > ________________________________________________________________________ > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > >


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    Time: 06:46:59 PM PST US
    From: jetinc@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: T-Day
    Ha ha! This one is directed at me, huh, Gary? Eddie -------------- Original message -------------- From: teamgrumman@aol.com > > My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind > going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 > knots on the GPS. > > The trip home was slower. 4 hours. > > I noticed an interesting phemonemon. My flaps are set high and I > normally fine tune the degree of flaps based on fuel loading and the > location of the CG. Apparently, the flaps are not 100% symmetric, left > to right. At the full "UP" position, the left wing felt a little > heavy. Tapping the flaps down a few degrees removed the heavy wing. A > few more degrees gave me a heavier right wing. I found I could correct > an imbalanced fuel load with flap position. > > "We don't need no stinking electric aileron trim" > ________________________________________________________________________ > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > > > > <html><body> <DIV>Ha ha!&nbsp; This one is directed at me, huh, Gary?</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Eddie</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: teamgrumman@aol.com <BR><BR>&gt; --&gt; TeamGrumman-List message posted by: teamgrumman@aol.com <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind <BR>&gt; going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 <BR>&gt; knots on the GPS. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The trip home was slower. 4 hours. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I noticed an interesting phemonemon. My flaps are set high and I <BR>&gt; normally fine tune the degree of flaps based on fuel loading and the <BR>&gt; location of the CG. Apparently, the flaps are not 100% symmetric, left <BR>&gt; to right. At the full "UP" position, the left wing felt a little <BR>&gt; heavy. Tapping the flaps down a few degrees removed the heavy wing. A <BR>&gt; few more degrees gave me a heavier right wing. I found I could correct <BR>&gt; an imbalanced fuel lo ad wit -= <BR <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 07:15:26 PM PST US
    From: <ddmcknight@alltel.net>
    Subject:
    > > From: teamgrumman@aol.com > Date: 2006/11/27 Mon PM 12:56:27 CST > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day > > > My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind > going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 > knots on the GPS. > > The trip home was slower. 4 hours. > > I noticed an interesting phemonemon. My flaps are set high and I > normally fine tune the degree of flaps based on fuel loading and the > location of the CG. Apparently, the flaps are not 100% symmetric, left > to right. At the full "UP" position, the left wing felt a little > heavy. Tapping the flaps down a few degrees removed the heavy wing. A > few more degrees gave me a heavier right wing. I found I could correct > an imbalanced fuel load with flap position. > > "We don't need no stinking electric aileron trim" > ________________________________________________________________________ > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:18:00 PM PST US
    From: <ddmcknight@alltel.net>
    Subject: Aileron AD Compliance
    I am due for an annual on my Tiger and would like to terminate the AD requiring repeat inspections on the aileron torque tubes. Can anyone tell me where I can get the template needed to verify the contour of the ailerons and terminate the AD?? Thanks, Dave McKnight


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    Time: 08:42:43 PM PST US
    From: Gil Alexander <gilalex@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Air flow testing
    Gary..... a pilot on our airpark is flow testing the aft fuselage area of a tail wheel Wheeler Express (don't ask me why...:^), and is looking to make a new, lighter tail for it.... I mentioned the pictures of flow testing your new cowl with the "colored dots" What are those dots and where do you get them? gil in Tucson


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    Time: 08:58:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: T-Day
    From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM
    yes -----Original Message----- From: bruce.smith@york.com Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:28 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day <bruce.smith@york.com> Gary, When you say that your flaps are set high, do you mean that they are reflexed upward past the norm? Thanks. Bruce Smith teamgrumman@aol.com wrote: > > My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind > going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 > knots on the GPS. > > The trip home was slower. 4 hours. > > I noticed an interesting phemonemon. My flaps are set high and I > normally fine tune the degree of flaps based on fuel loading and the > location of the CG. Apparently, the flaps are not 100% symmetric, > left to right. At the full "UP" position, the left wing felt a little > heavy. Tapping the flaps down a few degrees removed the heavy wing. > A few more degrees gave me a heavier right wing. I found I could > correct an imbalanced fuel load with flap position. > > "We don't need no stinking electric aileron trim" > ________________________________________________________________________ > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more.


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    Time: 09:08:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: T-Day
    From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM
    No, it wasn't. Not sure to which part you are referring. -----Original Message----- From: jetinc@comcast.net Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 6:46 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day Ha ha! This one is directed at me, huh, Gary? Eddie -------------- Original message -------------- From: teamgrumman@aol.com > > My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind > going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 > knots on the GPS. > > The trip home was slower. 4 hours. > > I noticed an interesting phemonemon. My flaps are set high and I > normally fine tune the degree of flaps based on fuel loading and the > location of the CG. Apparently, the flaps are not 100% symmetric, left > to right. At the full "UP" position, the left wing felt a little > heavy. Tapping the flaps down a few degrees removed the heavy wing. A > few more degrees gave me a heavier right wing. I found I could correct > an imbalanced fuel lo ad wit - ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more.


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    Time: 09:13:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aileron AD Compliance
    From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM
    I had the web address somewhere but I can't find it now. Call Fletcher or email them and I'm sure Garner will give it to you. -----Original Message----- From: ddmcknight@alltel.net Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 7:17 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Aileron AD Compliance I am due for an annual on my Tiger and would like to terminate the AD requiring repeat inspections on the aileron torque tubes. Can anyone tell me where I can get the template needed to verify the contour of the ailerons and terminate the AD?? Thanks, Dave McKnight ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more.


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    Time: 09:15:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Air flow testing
    From: teamgrumman@aol.com
    mineral oil and tempra paint -----Original Message----- From: gilalex@earthlink.net Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 8:42 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Air flow testing Gary..... a pilot on our airpark is flow testing the aft fuselage area of a tail wheel Wheeler Express (don't ask me why...:^), and is looking to make a new, lighter tail for it.... I mentioned the pictures of flow testing your new cowl with the "colored dots" What are those dots and where do you get them? gil in Tucson ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more.


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    Time: 09:18:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Air flow testing
    From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM
    not mineral engine oil. light mineral oil from the grocery store -----Original Message----- From: teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 9:14 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Air flow testing mineral oil and tempra paint -----Original Message----- From: gilalex@earthlink.net To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 8:42 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Air flow testing Gary..... a pilot on our airpark is flow testing the aft fuselage area of a tail wheel Wheeler Express (don't ask me why...:^), and is looking to make a new, lighter tail for it.... I mentioned the pictures of flow testing your new cowl with the "colored dots" What are those dots and where do you get them? gil in Tucson ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more.


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    Time: 09:28:12 PM PST US
    From: jetinc@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: T-Day
    This part..."We don't need no stinking electric aileron trim" I just don't wanna give up the electric aileron trim. Cheers, Eddie -------------- Original message -------------- From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM > > No, it wasn't. Not sure to which part you are referring. > > -----Original Message----- > From: jetinc@comcast.net > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 6:46 PM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day > > Ha ha! This one is directed at me, huh, Gary? > > Eddie > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: teamgrumman@aol.com > > > > > My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind > > going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 > > knots on the GPS. > > > > The trip home was slower. 4 hours. > > > > I noticed an interesting phemonemon. My flaps are set high and I > > normally fine tune the degree of flaps based on fuel loading and the > > location of the CG. Apparently, the flaps are not 100% symmetric, > left > > to right. At the full "UP" position, the left wing felt a little > > heavy. Tapping the flaps down a few degrees removed the heavy wing. A > > few more degrees gave me a heavier right wing. I found I could > correct > > an imbalanced fuel lo ad wit -= > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > > > > <html><body> <DIV>This part..."We don't need no stinking electric aileron trim"<BR></DIV> <DIV>I just don't wanna give up the electric aileron trim.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Cheers,</DIV> <DIV>Eddie</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM <BR><BR>&gt; --&gt; TeamGrumman-List message posted by: teamgrumman@aol.com <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; No, it wasn't. Not sure to which part you are referring. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -----Original Message----- <BR>&gt; From: jetinc@comcast.net <BR>&gt; To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com <BR>&gt; Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 6:46 PM <BR>&gt; Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Ha ha! This one is directed at me, huh, Gary? <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Eddie <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -------------- Original message -------------- <BR>&gt; From: teamgrumman@aol.com <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; --&gt; TeamGrumman-List message posted by: teamgrumman@aol.com <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind <BR>&gt; &gt; going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 <BR>&gt; &g t; kno &gt; _ rch &a <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 11:44:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: T-Day
    From: teamgrumman@aol.com
    Oh, well, I think it's well known how I feel about wasting money on electric aileron trim. So, Eddie, how's it going? Did you have a good T-Day? Getting ready for Xmas? Flying a lot??? What are you doing for New Years??? -----Original Message----- From: jetinc@comcast.net Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day This part..."We don't need no stinking electric aileron trim" I just don't wanna give up the electric aileron trim. Cheers, Eddie -------------- Original message -------------- From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM > > No, it wasn't. Not sure to which part you are referring. > > -----Original Message----- > From: jetinc@comcast.net > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 6:46 PM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day > > Ha ha! This one is directed at me, huh, Gary? > > Eddie > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: teamgrumman@aol.com > > > > > My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind > > going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 > &g t; kno > _ rch &a ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more.




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