---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/27/06: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:37 AM - List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed! (Matt Dralle) 1. 10:57 AM - T-Day (teamgrumman@AOL.COM) 2. 11:28 AM - Re: T-Day (Bruce Smith) 3. 06:46 PM - Re: T-Day (jetinc@comcast.net) 4. 07:15 PM - () 5. 07:18 PM - Aileron AD Compliance () 6. 08:42 PM - Air flow testing (Gil Alexander) 7. 08:58 PM - Re: T-Day (teamgrumman@AOL.COM) 8. 09:08 PM - Re: T-Day (teamgrumman@AOL.COM) 9. 09:13 PM - Re: Aileron AD Compliance (teamgrumman@AOL.COM) 10. 09:15 PM - Re: Air flow testing (teamgrumman@aol.com) 11. 09:18 PM - Re: Air flow testing (teamgrumman@AOL.COM) 12. 09:28 PM - Re: T-Day (jetinc@comcast.net) 13. 11:44 PM - Re: T-Day (teamgrumman@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:37:15 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: TeamGrumman-List: List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. 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Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:57:01 AM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 knots on the GPS. The trip home was slower. 4 hours. I noticed an interesting phemonemon. My flaps are set high and I normally fine tune the degree of flaps based on fuel loading and the location of the CG. Apparently, the flaps are not 100% symmetric, left to right. At the full "UP" position, the left wing felt a little heavy. Tapping the flaps down a few degrees removed the heavy wing. A few more degrees gave me a heavier right wing. I found I could correct an imbalanced fuel load with flap position. "We don't need no stinking electric aileron trim" ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:28:21 AM PST US From: Bruce Smith Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day Gary, When you say that your flaps are set high, do you mean that they are reflexed upward past the norm? Thanks. Bruce Smith teamgrumman@aol.com wrote: > > My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind > going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 > knots on the GPS. > > The trip home was slower. 4 hours. > > I noticed an interesting phemonemon. My flaps are set high and I > normally fine tune the degree of flaps based on fuel loading and the > location of the CG. Apparently, the flaps are not 100% symmetric, > left to right. At the full "UP" position, the left wing felt a little > heavy. Tapping the flaps down a few degrees removed the heavy wing. > A few more degrees gave me a heavier right wing. I found I could > correct an imbalanced fuel load with flap position. > > "We don't need no stinking electric aileron trim" > ________________________________________________________________________ > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:59 PM PST US From: jetinc@comcast.net Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day Ha ha! This one is directed at me, huh, Gary? Eddie -------------- Original message -------------- From: teamgrumman@aol.com > > My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind > going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 > knots on the GPS. > > The trip home was slower. 4 hours. > > I noticed an interesting phemonemon. My flaps are set high and I > normally fine tune the degree of flaps based on fuel loading and the > location of the CG. Apparently, the flaps are not 100% symmetric, left > to right. At the full "UP" position, the left wing felt a little > heavy. Tapping the flaps down a few degrees removed the heavy wing. A > few more degrees gave me a heavier right wing. I found I could correct > an imbalanced fuel load with flap position. > > "We don't need no stinking electric aileron trim" > ________________________________________________________________________ > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > > > >
Ha ha!  This one is directed at me, huh, Gary?
 
Eddie
 
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> My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind
> going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202
> knots on the GPS.
>
> The trip home was slower. 4 hours.
>
> I noticed an interesting phemonemon. My flaps are set high and I
> normally fine tune the degree of flaps based on fuel loading and the
> location of the CG. Apparently, the flaps are not 100% symmetric, left
> to right. At the full "UP" position, the left wing felt a little
> heavy. Tapping the flaps down a few degrees removed the heavy wing. A
> few more degrees gave me a heavier right wing. I found I could correct
> an imbalanced fuel lo ad wit -=
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:26 PM PST US From: Subject: TeamGrumman-List: > > From: teamgrumman@aol.com > Date: 2006/11/27 Mon PM 12:56:27 CST > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day > > > My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind > going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 > knots on the GPS. > > The trip home was slower. 4 hours. > > I noticed an interesting phemonemon. My flaps are set high and I > normally fine tune the degree of flaps based on fuel loading and the > location of the CG. Apparently, the flaps are not 100% symmetric, left > to right. At the full "UP" position, the left wing felt a little > heavy. Tapping the flaps down a few degrees removed the heavy wing. A > few more degrees gave me a heavier right wing. I found I could correct > an imbalanced fuel load with flap position. > > "We don't need no stinking electric aileron trim" > ________________________________________________________________________ > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:18:00 PM PST US From: Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Aileron AD Compliance I am due for an annual on my Tiger and would like to terminate the AD requiring repeat inspections on the aileron torque tubes. Can anyone tell me where I can get the template needed to verify the contour of the ailerons and terminate the AD?? Thanks, Dave McKnight ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:43 PM PST US From: Gil Alexander Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Air flow testing Gary..... a pilot on our airpark is flow testing the aft fuselage area of a tail wheel Wheeler Express (don't ask me why...:^), and is looking to make a new, lighter tail for it.... I mentioned the pictures of flow testing your new cowl with the "colored dots" What are those dots and where do you get them? gil in Tucson ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:52 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM yes -----Original Message----- From: bruce.smith@york.com Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:28 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day Gary, When you say that your flaps are set high, do you mean that they are reflexed upward past the norm? Thanks. Bruce Smith teamgrumman@aol.com wrote: > > My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind > going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 > knots on the GPS. > > The trip home was slower. 4 hours. > > I noticed an interesting phemonemon. My flaps are set high and I > normally fine tune the degree of flaps based on fuel loading and the > location of the CG. Apparently, the flaps are not 100% symmetric, > left to right. At the full "UP" position, the left wing felt a little > heavy. Tapping the flaps down a few degrees removed the heavy wing. > A few more degrees gave me a heavier right wing. I found I could > correct an imbalanced fuel load with flap position. > > "We don't need no stinking electric aileron trim" > ________________________________________________________________________ > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:56 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM No, it wasn't. Not sure to which part you are referring. -----Original Message----- From: jetinc@comcast.net Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 6:46 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day Ha ha! This one is directed at me, huh, Gary? Eddie -------------- Original message -------------- From: teamgrumman@aol.com > > My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind > going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 > knots on the GPS. > > The trip home was slower. 4 hours. > > I noticed an interesting phemonemon. My flaps are set high and I > normally fine tune the degree of flaps based on fuel loading and the > location of the CG. Apparently, the flaps are not 100% symmetric, left > to right. At the full "UP" position, the left wing felt a little > heavy. Tapping the flaps down a few degrees removed the heavy wing. A > few more degrees gave me a heavier right wing. I found I could correct > an imbalanced fuel lo ad wit - ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:56 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Aileron AD Compliance From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM I had the web address somewhere but I can't find it now. Call Fletcher or email them and I'm sure Garner will give it to you. -----Original Message----- From: ddmcknight@alltel.net Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 7:17 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Aileron AD Compliance I am due for an annual on my Tiger and would like to terminate the AD requiring repeat inspections on the aileron torque tubes. Can anyone tell me where I can get the template needed to verify the contour of the ailerons and terminate the AD?? Thanks, Dave McKnight ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:15:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Air flow testing From: teamgrumman@aol.com mineral oil and tempra paint -----Original Message----- From: gilalex@earthlink.net Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 8:42 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Air flow testing Gary..... a pilot on our airpark is flow testing the aft fuselage area of a tail wheel Wheeler Express (don't ask me why...:^), and is looking to make a new, lighter tail for it.... I mentioned the pictures of flow testing your new cowl with the "colored dots" What are those dots and where do you get them? gil in Tucson ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:18:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Air flow testing From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM not mineral engine oil. light mineral oil from the grocery store -----Original Message----- From: teamgrumman@aol.com Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 9:14 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Air flow testing mineral oil and tempra paint -----Original Message----- From: gilalex@earthlink.net To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 8:42 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Air flow testing Gary..... a pilot on our airpark is flow testing the aft fuselage area of a tail wheel Wheeler Express (don't ask me why...:^), and is looking to make a new, lighter tail for it.... I mentioned the pictures of flow testing your new cowl with the "colored dots" What are those dots and where do you get them? gil in Tucson ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:28:12 PM PST US From: jetinc@comcast.net Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day This part..."We don't need no stinking electric aileron trim" I just don't wanna give up the electric aileron trim. Cheers, Eddie -------------- Original message -------------- From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM > > No, it wasn't. Not sure to which part you are referring. > > -----Original Message----- > From: jetinc@comcast.net > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 6:46 PM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day > > Ha ha! This one is directed at me, huh, Gary? > > Eddie > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: teamgrumman@aol.com > > > > > My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind > > going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 > > knots on the GPS. > > > > The trip home was slower. 4 hours. > > > > I noticed an interesting phemonemon. My flaps are set high and I > > normally fine tune the degree of flaps based on fuel loading and the > > location of the CG. Apparently, the flaps are not 100% symmetric, > left > > to right. At the full "UP" position, the left wing felt a little > > heavy. Tapping the flaps down a few degrees removed the heavy wing. A > > few more degrees gave me a heavier right wing. I found I could > correct > > an imbalanced fuel lo ad wit -= > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > > > >
This part..."We don't need no stinking electric aileron trim"
I just don't wanna give up the electric aileron trim.
 
Cheers,
Eddie
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> No, it wasn't. Not sure to which part you are referring.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jetinc@comcast.net
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 6:46 PM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day
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> Ha ha! This one is directed at me, huh, Gary?
>
> Eddie
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: teamgrumman@aol.com
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> > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: teamgrumman@aol.com
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> > My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind
> > going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202
> &g t; kno > _ rch &a
________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:44:32 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day From: teamgrumman@aol.com Oh, well, I think it's well known how I feel about wasting money on electric aileron trim. So, Eddie, how's it going? Did you have a good T-Day? Getting ready for Xmas? Flying a lot??? What are you doing for New Years??? -----Original Message----- From: jetinc@comcast.net Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day This part..."We don't need no stinking electric aileron trim" I just don't wanna give up the electric aileron trim. Cheers, Eddie -------------- Original message -------------- From: teamgrumman@AOL.COM > > No, it wasn't. Not sure to which part you are referring. > > -----Original Message----- > From: jetinc@comcast.net > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 6:46 PM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: T-Day > > Ha ha! This one is directed at me, huh, Gary? > > Eddie > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: teamgrumman@aol.com > > > > > My girlfriend and I flew to Salt Lake City for T-Day. Great tail wind > > going over. 435 kt miles in 3 hours. At one point we were doing 202 > &g t; kno > _ rch &a ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.