---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/29/06: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:19 AM - Re: Tiger Annual (teamgrumman@aol.com) 2. 02:45 AM - Re: Grease and felt in main wheel (teamgrumman@aol.com) 3. 07:16 AM - Re: Tiger Annual (flyv35b) 4. 02:04 PM - Re: Tiger Annual (teamgrumman@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:19:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger Annual From: teamgrumman@aol.com Thanks Cliff. I've already started on this Tiger. I suspect Grummans are coming out of the woodwork here because there hasn't been anyone local to work on them. This is the third derelict in 4 months. Annual cost of 7,000+, 14,000+ and this one. The really sucky thing is they take so long. Planes start stacking up around my hangar. I love it . . . . -----Original Message----- From: flyv35b@minetfiber.com To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 7:27 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger Annual Well Gary, it seems you have the "misfortune" of getting to work on these "derelict" planes. Sounds like either a plane that some owner had worked on himself trying to save money or some ignorant mechanic that should have his license suspended. Many times it's difficult to tell which unless the owner admits to it. Probably this is the owners "first" annual after buying his plane and he wasn't even aware of some of these very obvious problems when he bought the plane. Hopefully the owner will be happy that you are correcting these issues and making the plane airworthy again. And hopefully he won't bitch about the high cost of the infamous dreaded first annual! Education does not come cheap and neither do good airworthy planes. I'm sure we'll hear more of your continuing saga. Cliff A&P/IA ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:40 AM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Grease and felt in main wheel From: teamgrumman@aol.com Hey Brian, the felt doesn't normally fail. It might have. I usually replace them every few years, as a matter of course, roughly every other wheel packing. The felt is cheap. Use AeroShell 22 for the wheel bearing greaase. While it's all apart, clean up the brake caliper guide pins and coat them with Anti-Seize compound. Gary -----Original Message----- From: sandbag23@msn.com Sent: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 2:49 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Grease and felt in main wheel Filling up my tires today I found some greasy felt pieces in the outer wheel half. Is this a sign that the felt seal has failed? Time to repack the bearings? (50 hrs since last time) -Brian N119ST @ 2W6 ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:03 AM PST US From: "flyv35b" Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger Annual Possibly, but a good conscientious mechanic would not allow the sort of things you mentioned to pass an annual inspection. I wouldn't if it were on a Piper, Cessna or whatever else I was working on. The standards should be the same on whatever you work on and it doesn't take Grumman specific expertise to recognize galvanized steel baffling that is rubbing on the cowling! Besides they are supposed to have the factory maintenance manual and follow it when doing the work. No excuses IMO. Just think, in a couple more years you will have "gone through" all the derelict planes and only have repeat customers with planes in much better condition. Happy New Year Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 2:18 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger Annual > > Thanks Cliff. I've already started on this Tiger. I suspect Grummans are > coming out of the woodwork here because there hasn't been anyone local to > work on them. This is the third derelict in 4 months. Annual cost of > 7,000+, 14,000+ and this one. The really sucky thing is they take so > long. Planes start stacking up around my hangar. I love it . . . . > > -----Original Message----- > From: flyv35b@minetfiber.com > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 7:27 AM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger Annual > > Well Gary, it seems you have the "misfortune" of getting to work on these > "derelict" planes. Sounds like either a plane that some owner had worked > on himself trying to save money or some ignorant mechanic that should have > his license suspended. Many times it's difficult to tell which unless the > owner admits to it. Probably this is the owners "first" annual after > buying his plane and he wasn't even aware of some of these very obvious > problems when he bought the plane. Hopefully the owner will be happy that > you are correcting these issues and making the plane airworthy again. And > hopefully he won't bitch about the high cost of the infamous dreaded first > annual! Education does not come cheap and neither do good airworthy > planes. I'm sure we'll hear more of your continuing saga. Cliff A&P/IA > ________________________________________________________________________ > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > > -- > 12/28/2006 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:04:59 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Tiger Annual From: teamgrumman@aol.com I would hope so. -----Original Message----- << Just think, in a couple more years you will have "gone through" all the derelict planes and only have repeat customers with planes in much better condition.>> Happy New Year Cliff ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.