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Fri 03/30/07


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 01:14 PM - Paint (brian sandberg)
     2. 03:41 PM - Re: Paint (Steve Roberts)
     3. 09:07 PM - Re: Paint (teamgrumman@aol.com)
     4. 09:22 PM - Re: Paint (teamgrumman@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:14:02 PM PST US
    From: "brian sandberg" <sandbag23@msn.com>
    Subject: Paint
    No metalflake. A hand-made mix of PPG Aerospace paints. >If there is no metallic in the blue, it will be a lot easier to >match the color. > >Gary >


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    Time: 03:41:09 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Roberts" <aa1bflyboy@msn.com>
    Subject: Paint
    Ah, this I wasn't happy to hear. I was hoping to do some paint work on my cowl which is painted a dark metalic blue. What's the best way to tackle this then? If I'm right I have no need to be angry; If I'm wrong I have no right to be... Steve Roberts - AA-1B N9664L @ ILG >If there is no metallic in the blue, it will be a lot easier to >match the color. > >Gary


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    Time: 09:07:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Paint
    From: teamgrumman@aol.com
    The biggest problem with metallics is that the metallic particles never lay down the same way twice. Another problem is, the metalic that was used to paint the first time will have different characteristics than the paint you use the second time. For example, if you painted with a metallic paint made by PPG (or anyone else) last year, and bought the exact same paint in the same quantity today and painted it eaxclty the same, it would be close, but, a good eye can see the difference. There are a couple of tricks to hide the differences. (1) Well, first, I hope you didn't come to this site looking for political correctness. . . . Doing a Mexican blend can help to hide some of the differences in the metallics. OK, so, what's a Mexican blend. For a Mexican blend, paint the area you need painted, then, add about 20% clear to the paint (sometimes, adding reducer will work), fog into the rest of the panel about 25% of the way, add 50% clear/reducer to that, fog to about half way, add more clear/reducer and repeat until all you're shooting is basically clear. By far the toughest 'fix' I ever did was a door on a 67 El Caminio. It had been painted in dark metallic brown Imron. The paint was about a month old. Neither I or Big John, one of the best painters I ever met, could get the door to match. We ended up painting the entire side of the car in a Mexican blend. (2) Painting to a body-line will fool the eye into thinking it's a different light reflection. The hard part is painting to the edge without leaving an edge. (3) Repaint the entire panel What portion of the cowling is it that you need to paint? Often, leaving the panel chipped or unpainted looks better than a bad paint job. If the paint is chipping from poor prep, well, strip the entire part and repaint the whole thing. ========= On a similar note, my plane was painted with a scuff a shoot. All of the original paint is underneath. The prep was average. The first time I flew in the rain, a large portion of the paint chipped off the leading edge on the left wing. I'm currently in the process of replacing the windshield. The coving around the windshield looks pretty good for the most part. Still, a lot of paint chipped off when I was removing the windshield. The previous owner drilled holes and put snaps all over the place for a canopy cover: so, there are 5 holes in the area around the base of the windshield. Brilliant. Mine is painted a metallic red. It's a standard Imron color. In fact, I painted my cowling with the same color. it's close, but not exact. So, should I strip the entire area at this point and prime it for future paint or just leave it until that time? I'll probably just leave it. -----Original Message----- From: aa1bflyboy@msn.com Sent: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 3:40 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Paint <aa1bflyboy@msn.com> Ah, this I wasn't happy to hear. I was hoping to do some paint work on my cowl which is painted a dark metalic blue. What's the best way to tackle this then? If I'm right I have no need to be angry; If I'm wrong I have no right to be... Steve Roberts - AA-1B N9664L @ ILG >If there is no metallic in the blue, it will be a lot easier to >match the color. > >Gary ________________________________________________________________________ from AOL at AOL.com. =0


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    Time: 09:22:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Paint
    From: teamgrumman@aol.com
    Was your VW a custom mix also? -----Original Message----- From: sandbag23@msn.com Sent: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 1:13 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Paint <sandbag23@msn.com> No metalflake. A hand-made mix of PPG Aerospace paints. >If there is no metallic in the blue, it will be a lot easier to >match the color. > >Gary > ________________________________________________________________________ from AOL at AOL.com. =0




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