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1. 12:59 AM - Re: Horizontal Support Braces (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
2. 01:02 AM - Re: Corvairs (teamgrumman@AOL.COM)
3. 06:18 AM - Aviation Lawsuits (Richard Mutzman)
4. 08:21 AM - Re: Corvairs (Steve Roberts)
5. 08:43 AM - Re: Corvairs ()
6. 08:59 AM - Re: Corvairs (Steve Roberts)
7. 06:40 PM - Cable Tension (Mike Lehman)
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| Subject: | Re: Horizontal Support Braces |
When I was rerigging the cables, I noticed that if I put the center
pulley on the cable tensioner on the pulley's axel, it read about 40
lbs. My guess is whoever did it didn't know how to use the tensioner.
-----Original Message-----
From: flyv35b@minetfiber.com
Sent: Fri, 4 May 2007 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Support Braces
<flyv35b@minetfiber.com>
I just finished an annual on a Tiger that had the elevator cable
tension set way to high. I think they adjusted it by feel, comparing it
to the aileron cables possibly.
Cliff
----- Original Message ----- From: <teamgrumman@aol.com>
To: <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:18 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Horizontal Support Braces
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> I'm doing an annual on a Tiger that had the braces for the
horizontal > replaced last year. The shop that did it is one of the
best. However, > the cable tension to the elevator was over 90 lbs (off
the scale on my > tensioner).
>
> Should I sue the last guy to work on this plane? Or, do you think it
> would be more contructive to correct the problem and let the shop
know > what I found so that can correct the source of the mistake?
>
> Damn it, I'm calling my lawyer . . . .
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Mine was white. Same idea though.
-----Original Message-----
From: 923te@cox.net
Sent: Fri, 4 May 2007 12:58 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Corvairs
Gary,
I didn't know you were a corvair nut...Me too. Dad still has 5 at the
house. One I learned to drive in a 65 Corsa. One he is putting a Fiero
rearend under with a 4.9 aluminum block in it...Dad's 83....so it's
taking awhile...
I sure would like to take a ride in your 400hp Totonado powerd
corvair...must a been a real rocket, corvette eater
Did yours look like this one:
http://www.mts.net/~lhonke/pbruce.htm
PS. I've been driving General Motors cars since 1967. And that
includes 9 Corvairs (I never lost any money on Corvairs. I bought one
convertible for $6, drove it for a year, and sold it for $150. The
last one I had I put a 400hp 455 Olds Toronado engine and trans in it.
Now, that was fun.). In 40 years I've only had one lemon; it was a car
returned on a lease. My mistake
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| Subject: | Aviation Lawsuits |
Gary,
I agree with you a 100%. Usually when I have a problem, I keep working with
the company and up the chain until I get resolution that I feel comfortable
with, and this usually works. Only one time did I actually sue someone.
That was when I put a deposit down for a painting my plane, the guy went out
of business (ask Sandbag about it..), and I put a suit in so if and when he
finally files bankruptcy, I may get 10 cents on the dollar back. From what
I have heard, he has run out of the state, owes the state back taxes, and
will never return, so I don't really expect to get anything back, but hey,
it made me feel comfortable. Sea le vi...
Richard Mutzman
N399RM
Time: 12:14:11 PM PST US
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 4371 magneto
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
You're not serious are you? Who in the hell would benefit from GE
getting sued over screwing up a few mags? For christ's sake, do you
really want to shut down an entire lifestyle for anyone connected to
general aviation? Is this the way you solve all of your concerns with
manufacturing defects? or anything else any time you're not happy with
something? Don't you think it would be just a little bit more
constructive to return the bad ones and let them know we aren't going
to be satisfied with poor quality control?
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I had a 66 Mazda convertable that my cousin and I restored. Well really it
was mostly him... Finally sold it to his brother then another freind of his.
It was a fun car. My cousin had a project he did with a Corvair van that had
a V8 engine in the bed. He had to put wheelie bars on it to keep it on the
road. He did another one with a Ford Econoline Pick-Up, same trick V8 engine
in the bed. I think he finally crashed that one in a rollover... The things
we did when we were young... :) Last summer he and I flew into OSH with 64L.
We prop go to OSH with 64L again this year but land somewhere else... :)
If I'm right I have no need to be angry;
If I'm wrong I have no right to be...
Steve Roberts - AA-1B N9664L soon to be N641HY
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From: teamgrumman@aol.com
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Corvairs
Mine was white. Same idea though.
-----Original Message-----
From: 923te@cox.net
Sent: Fri, 4 May 2007 12:58 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Corvairs
Gary,
I didn't know you were a corvair nut...Me too. Dad still has 5 at the
house. One I learned to drive in a 65 Corsa. One he is putting a Fiero
rearend under with a 4.9 aluminum block in it...Dad's 83....so it's taking
awhile...
I sure would like to take a ride in your 400hp Totonado powerd
corvair...must a been a real rocket, corvette eater
Did yours look like this one:
http://www.mts.net/~lhonke/pbruce.htm
PS. I've been driving General Motors cars since 1967. And that
includes 9 Corvairs (I never lost any money on Corvairs. I bought one
convertible for $6, drove it for a year, and sold it for $150. The
last one I had I put a 400hp 455 Olds Toronado engine and trans in it.
Now, that was fun.). In 40 years I've only had one lemon; it was a car
returned on a lease. My mistake
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Just a heads up on Fon Du Lac. Lot's of war birds land there.
I think Oshkosh is safer to land at then Fon Du Lac. Osh has many more volunteers
helping. I watched a P51 taxi right into a brand new Commander 114 at Fon Du
Lac. The rudder went staight up about 300'. It was a clean cut leaving no damage
to the vertical stabilizer OR the propeller on the P51
In any event Osh approach and landing is an unforgettable experience. I've done
it 4 times, 3 of those in my Tiger
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Wow I did not know that. I'll keep that in mind. If I do go back to OSH I'll
break the arm of any groundspeople who want to help me push my plane.
If I'm right I have no need to be angry;
If I'm wrong I have no right to be...
Steve Roberts - AA-1B N9664L @ ILG
----Original Message Follows----
From: <923te@cox.net>
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Corvairs
Just a heads up on Fon Du Lac. Lot's of war birds land there.
I think Oshkosh is safer to land at then Fon Du Lac. Osh has many more
volunteers helping. I watched a P51 taxi right into a brand new Commander
114 at Fon Du Lac. The rudder went staight up about 300'. It was a clean cut
leaving no damage to the vertical stabilizer OR the propeller on the P51
In any event Osh approach and landing is an unforgettable experience. I've
done it 4 times, 3 of those in my Tiger
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Sounds like a common error; my Traveler had both the elevator and aileron
cable tension at twice the spec value. (Rudder cable tension was OK but,
since springs limit the tension, it can't get set grossly wrong.)
Mike
I just finished an annual on a Tiger that had the elevator cable tension set
way to high. I think they adjusted it by feel, comparing it to the aileron
cables possibly.
Cliff
>
> I'm doing an annual on a Tiger that had the braces for the horizontal
> replaced last year. The shop that did it is one of the best. However,
> the cable tension to the elevator was over 90 lbs (off the scale on my
> tensioner).
>
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